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Is it later than you think? Who or what is that Disgusting thing that causes desolation? If you think you know the answer, maybe we should look into this prophecy a little more closely. After all, this prophecy alerts

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If you come away with one thing, let it be known that everything Jehovah does, is a Process. For example, let's look at the first Prophecy in the Bible, (
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) The Fulfillment of Prophecies are 'timed events' that have a Beginning and an End which covers a specific time period. When did it begin? Well, if we realize that the primary seed is Jesus Christ, then we can pinpoint to the manifestation of this 'timed event' to take place when
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. This would also include the secondary seed of Jesus' brothers, also known as the Body of Christ. These anointed ones also go through a begotten process and are called Sons. So, when is the End of this prophecy at Genesis 3:15? "For the creation is waiting with eager expectation for
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In 1919
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 objective was to maintain an universal peace within the framework of the fundamental principles of the Pact accepted by its Members : “to develop cooperation among nations and to guarantee them peace and security”.  (
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The United Nations, it is riddled with man-made organizations that suck the life out of nations while transferring wealth to others. It
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to drive up prices while humanity and children starve to death. All the while, rodents like rats and mice feast and pass on deadly plagues. The disgusting thing is certainly disgusting in its fight against
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Now, the Wild Beast that are in the Body of Gog of Magog includes the King of the North and the King of the South. Both Kings are bad actors belonging to the same body. The King of the North pushes against the King of the South which means the King of the North takes the lead in coming against Jehovah's Named People. The King of the South is reluctant at first and engages in some skirmishes, but then joins in at a later time as this prophecy concludes. That's the signal for all of Satan's Entire Political system of things to come against the Law Abiding People of Jehovah's Witnesses with weapons and clubs
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as they came for our Leader,
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two thousand years ago.
 
So the Prophecy at (
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) has a beginning and an end. It covers a period of time during the time of the end. So what event marks the end, giving us insight to the conclusion of the prophecy for others to be fulfilled? "And arms will stand up, proceeding from him; and they will profane the sanctuary, the fortress, and remove the constant feature. And they will put in place the disgusting thing that causes desolation." (
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Since these things are in fact being fulfilled since 1919 what is the event that marks the final part of the prophecy that is upon us? Notice the term 'constant feature'. Prophecies often have an initial fulfillment and then later on concludes with a final fulfillment. The constant feature refers to a continual sacrifice. Animal sacrifices were brought to an end by the death of Jesus Christ. So as to the timing, it occurs during the end of times. However, the constant feature during
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in Preaching the Good News and in Praising
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of our Lord Jesus Christ. (
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When looking up this Final Scripture, hit the 'play button' and allow it to read the rest of the Chapter and Really Listen to it... "Do not be afraid, for I am with you. Do not be anxious, for I am your God. I will fortify you, yes, I will help you." (
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Romans 8 : 19 For the creation is waiting with eager expectation for the revealing of the sons of God. Romans 8 : 21 & 22 the creation itself will also be set free from enslavement to corruption and have the glorious freedom of the children of God. 22  For we know that all creation keeps on groaning together and being in pain together until now.  Yes indeed the creation (earthly class / children of God) are in eager expectation of the revealing of the True Anointed 'sons

It is what the telemarketer told me after I never ever took his calls because he persistently peddles rubbish, and then one day I accidentally picked up the phone thinking it was a call I had been expecting—that my pattern of blocking him showed “hesitancy in my belief structure.”

I am sure you don’t care what I say, but I’m using your comments as a sounding board.  Perhaps there are others who may understand the spiritual meaning behind the “disgusting thing standing in the holy place”.  Your understanding is full of holes. Since many who leave the organization, reject the organization, they are the persecuted ones.  Any anointed who claims total faith and loyalty in God and Jesus Christ, is spiritually “killed” by your leaders.  (John 16:2; Rev 13:15) They choose t

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The charter of the UN declares that it was created to promote ‘peace and security’. JW’s slave class has identified the “image of the beast” as the UN and the 10 kings as a conglomerate of rulers.

 

On closer inspection one notices the corruption in UN ranks and how positions and influence are currently being bought by billionaires who donate from their “charity foundations”.  These charity foundations do not pay taxes on earnings, yet may donate billions to the ‘causes and research’ which can actually make them richer, or donate-buy global influence in all the right companies (strategic organizations), which give them control of important global assets and decision-making bodies (almost like insider trading). This is presently taking place in most western countries too. Most billionaires became exponentially richer during the Corona lockdown.

The UN is actively promoting its UN Agenda 21 and UN Agenda 2030; some of the goals which are planned to be fully implemented by the year 2030. (It is on the UN website and openly discussed in many places on internet). A minimum of 193 nations willingly adopted the ‘sustainable development goals” which are “binding” even if the original document says it is not. Subsequent changes in specific clauses made it so.

UN is already ruling like an ‘image’ or phantom (it needs no substantial existence) behind the scenes because they are now boldly and openly setting most of the policies for the entire globe. (I will provide a link below).

For example, the new transgenderism is being pushed in schools and kindergarten by UN. It has become a highly politicized issue but I only mention this point because it is one of the global goals in which the UN (UNESCO, UNICEF, UNFPA), is setting the pace. Poorer countries, who do not participate in the project, receive no desperately needed funding from the UN. Short debate about it on UK TV: 

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  This includes “comprehensive sex education (in porneia), abortion, transgenderism - sexualizing young children etc.)  
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WHO, World Health Organization, is setting policies for world health even though they are favoring China in their decisions.  China has also acquired a very influential position in the Human Rights Council despite its current record of atrocities. Iran is now head of UN Women’s Rights. China has invested heavily in all new ‘sustainable development’ technology to become the new world manufacturing leader yet CCP is decimating African forests of trees and the sea from fish – not walking their ‘save-the-earth’ talk.

How is the UN taking control? Local municipal NGOs all over the world are receiving funding from billionaire ‘charity foundations’ to promote UN’s ‘sustainable development’ goals at local level in most western countries (working against the autonomy of the governments). Local laws regarding ‘land use’ are being changed against the wishes of the people. Local people who try to stop them are targeted and run into legal problems, legal harassment and mischief by law.

Please keep in mind the UN is an independent private organization. UN Agenda 2030 (an extension of Agenda 21 for the 21st century) is promoted as a wonderful utopia that is awaiting humankind….. until one understands how it will be swiftly implemented under the banner of ‘sustainability’ for the earth with the first radical milestones set for 2030. The next 5 years will see rapid change in the world, all detrimental…… if it lasts that long.  

While sustainability of the earth is a wonderful idea, the global companies (which are responsible for the pollution and all the bad mega-farming practices, GMOs, removal of diversity farming and taking away diversity of seeds, and also taking control of the world’s seed banks…), these are the very same global companies which made an agreement with the UN to promote its goals.

These global companies have already strategically positioned themselves to have much power in future.  British Petroleum and Monsanto (previous name) are only two of them as well as the UN linked banks and central banks. Billionaires have already invested in most of the future companies which will provide food (including artificial meat), energy, surveillance technology, health technology (which will only comprise pharmaceutical gene therapy and the phasing out of natural products), land, and water in the future ‘sustainable reset’ of the globe.

This is how UN goals are being implemented: but first a question. Who comprises the ‘World Economic Forum’ which meets at DAVOS every year? Its members comprise the world leaders, G20, the richest people / corporations on earth, ‘old money’ such as East India company, and banks. To implement Agenda 2030 goals, WEF members are gaining control of the food production, water, land use, all energy and much more in order to ‘enforce’ stricter sustainable goals.

Please read the goals of this agreement between UN and WEF at:

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WEF partners each pay between 60,000 to 600,000 Swiss Franc per year.  CHF is similar to the Euro.  

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You will notice that ‘digital governance’ is included above.  They need, and are aiming for total digital surveillance of every individual. The health passport will link each individual’s personal information – past and present. The person will not be able to go out to ‘buy or sell’ if they do not comply with all instructions…… including the ones that Satan has already inspired and the ones that Jehovah will allow (destruction of religion).

Satan is being drawn out to bring his ‘peace and security’ but we know he is the father of death and deceit.…. and oppression. No wonder, Brother Rutherford spoke of a totalitarian system. He thought it was Hitler – but he was a bit premature in his projection. This partnership between the WEF and UN will stealthily lead to a new form of fascism.

Additionally, leaders of the world have constantly called for a reduction of the world’s population. This is also been taken up by some of these powerful WEF members. Suddenly we see new inhumane abortion laws when babies are left to die without painkillers and their body parts sold for profit. The elderly are stuffed into homes where their chances of surviving Covid-19 are almost zero. Transgenderism curbs pro-creation. Fertility rates are falling sharply due to pollution and drop in sperm counts. This is one of the global goals of the ruling class. This reminds me of the ante-diluvian period under the demons.

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It is therefore not surprising that the WEF is using the Corona lockdown for the much advertised: ‘great economic reset’. (Type these words in and see what comes up - a global financial reset). Middle class businesses are currently being decimated by the lockdown but WEF members are designated as ‘vital infrastructure’ and are still operating without restrictions…. and received billions of dollars as bailouts.

The result is a financial ‘equalization’ of the middle and poorer classes……. so that most people will soon be ready to accept (UBI) Universal Basic Income, which may be deposited electronically in each person’s personal account held with a central bank. Smaller banks will disappear.  Digital money is being implemented as we speak and the discussions behind the scenes are ongoing as the financial reset is being managed during the Corona pandemic lockdown.

There is much more I can say about the electronic passport and surveillance etc......  but I leave you with this information. 

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Romans 8 : 19

For the creation is waiting with eager expectation for the revealing of the sons of God.

Romans 8 : 21 & 22

the creation itself will also be set free from enslavement to corruption and have the glorious freedom of the children of God. 22  For we know that all creation keeps on groaning together and being in pain together until now. 

Yes indeed the creation (earthly class / children of God) are in eager expectation of the revealing of the True Anointed 'sons of God' 

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Matthew 24 : 15 

“Therefore, when you catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation, as spoken about by Daniel the prophet, standing in a holy place (let the reader use discernment), 

Here we can read that Jesus said, 'the disgusting thing' would be standing in a 'Holy place'. And of course the Roman army were 'standing in a Holy place'.

But who are standing in the Holy place now ? Where is this Holy place ? 

The UN are in the world that belongs to the Devil. So can that actually be a Holy place ?

But what about the GB and their army of Elders ? Now could they be the disgusting thing standing in the Holy place ? JWs say that they have the 'only true religion' so according to them, that should be the Holy place. Because everything else would belong to the Devil. 

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15 minutes ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

Now could they be the disgusting thing standing in the Holy place ?

They will persecute the people who carry Jehovah's name as an identifying mark.  You forget that Revelation 14:1 says that the 144000 have the name of the father and of the son on their foreheads. Few people acknowledge this name apart from carrying it as an identifying mark.

You are awaiting the true anointed you say?  We are so far into the ruling period of the "image of the beast" and I see no sign of them.  I see only the "man of lawlessness" which denies the true nature of Christ as coming as a "man".

You also forget that there will be a preparation for the slave to be selected according to Micah 3: 1-3 there will be a vigorous cleaning as if with lye.  Jehovah cleaned his people from false teachings such as the immortality of the soul, from replacing his name with LORD and from politics, war etc. etc. 

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13 hours ago, Arauna said:

Jehovah cleaned his people from false teachings

So why did they go back to false teachings then ?  Why did they misuse the Romans scripture if God had cleansed them from false teachings ?

Why did they falsely predict Armageddon more than once ?  And why do they pretend that a person must be a baptised JW to be saved ?  

Why do the GB demote all the other Anointed ones ?  Why do the GB put in writing that the Anointed should not gather together for prayer or to study God's word ? 

Why do the GB state that it would be working 'against the Holy Spirit', when Jesus said they should gather together to pray to God ? 

I think the leaders of the Watchtower and JW org are full of false teachings, and they continue to make up more. 

 

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6 minutes ago, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

hy did they go back to false teachings then ? 

your opinion - a core false teaching in all false religions is : immortality of the soul.  Because it comes from ancient Babylon and is a core teaching  in all of Babylon the Great. One can call it an identifying mark of the lawless one because it leads to spiritism and all other forms of spiritism.

Most Christian religions accept this teaching. 

Anointed ones have not yet been sealed - so they can still fall away.  So why do you worship the idea that anointed ones must be special and have a special place in the congregation? this is exactly the what James warned against....  The GB are working with people on the committees who are NOT all anointed...... please keep this in mind. The slave are training people who are not anointed to take over. 

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19 hours ago, Arauna said:

They will persecute the people who carry Jehovah's name as an identifying mark.  You forget that Revelation 14:1 says that the 144000 have the name of the father and of the son on their foreheads.

I am sure you don’t care what I say, but I’m using your comments as a sounding board.  Perhaps there are others who may understand the spiritual meaning behind the “disgusting thing standing in the holy place”.  Your understanding is full of holes.

Since many who leave the organization, reject the organization, they are the persecuted ones.  Any anointed who claims total faith and loyalty in God and Jesus Christ, is spiritually “killed” by your leaders.  (John 16:2; Rev 13:15) They choose the identifying mark of God and Jesus Christ, and reject the mark of an organization that they must dedicate their lives to.  Who, what is like "Jehovah's *spirit-directed organization" that disfellowships any who reject it? What organization touts that nothing will take it down?

"They worshiped the dragon because he gave authority to the beast. And they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to wage war against him?”  Rev 13:4

"He (Rev 13:11 - false prophet) was permitted to *give a spirit to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast could both speak and cause whoever would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. " Rev 13:15   

19 hours ago, Arauna said:

Few people acknowledge this name apart from carrying it as an identifying mark.

Especially JWs.  You face a contradiction. “Jehovah’s organization” stands in the way of bearing the mark of God and Jesus. Let go of the organization/Beast and its sins, devote yourself fully to the Father and Jesus.  Stop putting faith in earthly riches that cannot bring salvation.  And then, through refinement and repentance, one can bear the name of the Father and the Son. Rev 3:12

This beast/organization requires all JWs..."—small and great, rich and poor, free and slave—to be given a mark  on his right hand or on his forehead,  so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark: the beast’s name or the number of his name."  Rev 13:16

This is not a literal mark, but a spiritual identity imprinted on one's mind (forehead) and through one's actions (right hand) of dedication to the organization. It is a spiritual commerce of buying and selling spiritual food from false teachers.   We can't bear both God's name and the name of an idol. Deut 11:18,19 

19 hours ago, Arauna said:

You are awaiting the true anointed you say?  We are so far into the ruling period of the "image of the beast" and I see no sign of them.

Those anointed who have left and strive to serve God fully, cannot be found by JWs who languish inside Wt's walls.  You are told that those people are apostates and must be avoided. Why don’t you see any sign of them inside Wt's walls?  It is because they are shoved into silence. You know that.  You see the elder body clearly, who have taken their place. If they were not banned from joining together, you would see them, wouldn't you.    When the anointed are told they cannot bond or teach as they are commissioned by Jesus Christ, and as the example set by their apostle predecessors,  what do you expect? Their individual spiritual sacrifices sourced in Holy Spirit given at the time of anointing have been cut off.  This is the "constant feature" or "daily sacrifices" that the org. has eliminated.  Dan. 8:11

"He even exalted himself as high as the Prince of the host; and by him the daily sacrifices were taken away, and the place of His sanctuary was cast down."

Basically the elder body under the direction of the GB, have told the anointed, ‘Lie down, that we may walk over you.’
And you have laid your body like the ground,
And as the street, for those who walk over.”  Isa 51:23

That’s why you see no sign of them in the organization.

19 hours ago, Arauna said:

I see only the "man of lawlessness" which denies the true nature of Christ as coming as a "man".

The “man of lawlessness” is the elder body "man" that you see.  Yes, it denies the true nature of Christ by rejecting the members of Christ’s anointed Body.

Dan 8:25 - “Through his cunning He shall cause deceit to prosper under his rule; And he shall exalt himself in his heart. He shall destroy many in their prosperity. He shall even rise against the Prince of princes; But he shall be broken without human means."

19 hours ago, Arauna said:

You also forget that there will be a preparation for the slave to be selected according to Micah 3: 1-3 there will be a vigorous cleaning as if with lye. 

You must mean Mal 3:1-3.  Who is being purified in verse 3?  The sons of Levi, the descendants of Jacob – the anointed priesthood.   

“I will come to you in judgment, and I will be ready to witness against sorcerers and adulterers; against those who swear falsely; against those who oppress the widow and the fatherless, and cheat the wage earner; and against those who deny justice to the foreigner. They do not fear Me,” says the Lord of Hosts. 6 “Because I, Yahweh, have not changed, you descendants of Jacob have not been destroyed. Mal 3:5,6

19 hours ago, Arauna said:

Jehovah cleaned his people from false teachings such as the immortality of the soul, from replacing his name with LORD and from politics, war etc. etc. 

Cleaned from false teachings?  The organization was built on false teachings. Can you deny that?  Isn't the "this generation" teaching proven to be false?  How do you ignore the historical record of failures and all of the publications now defunct? Matt 7:15-20

18 hours ago, Arauna said:

your opinion - a core false teaching in all false religions is : immortality of the soul.  Because it comes from ancient Babylon and is a core teaching  in all of Babylon the Great. One can call it an identifying mark of the lawless one because it leads to spiritism and all other forms of spiritism.

You are saying that all the false prophesies spoken by the organization matter not, but rejecting a teaching such as the immortality of the soul gives the organization plenty of brownie points that wipe the dirty slate clean.  Mal 3:5,6 above states that God has not changed.  When a prophet makes an announcement as if coming from God and it doesn’t come true, the prophet will die.  You’re boasting in the rejection of the immortality of the soul, when your leadership who have promoted past and present false prophets/teachers, who have a great chance of being destroyed.  Why would anyone take the chance to remain connected to these men?  Deut 18:17-22; Matt 24:24; Mark 13:22; Rev 19:20; 18:4-8

18 hours ago, Arauna said:

Anointed ones have not yet been sealed

How do you know this?  Do you have the mind of Christ?  What scriptures tell you this?

"In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory."  Eph 1:13,14

This doesn't include anointed who remain under the authority of a false priesthood/man of lawlessness.  They are to "come out of her my people"  Rev 18:4

18 hours ago, Arauna said:

so they can still fall away. 

Including your leadership, at least those who were at one time anointed by Jesus Christ and not through some freemasonry anointing.  

18 hours ago, Arauna said:

So why do you worship the idea that anointed ones must be special and have a special place in the congregation?

Why do you believe the elders have a special place in the congregation?  Who do they represent?  They represent these people:

"you yourselves, as living stones, are being built into a spiritual house for a holy priesthood to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.

But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood,
a holy nation, a people for His possession,
so that you may proclaim the praises
of the One who called you out of darkness
into His marvelous light.

Once you were not a people,
but now you are God’s people;
you had not received mercy,
but now you have received mercy."  1 Pet 2:5,9,10

Where would the elders be if they didn't usurp the authority of God's chosen people? They would be insignificant.   Where will  they be when Christ returns to set judgment against the man of lawlessness?  2 Thess 2:8

18 hours ago, Arauna said:

this is exactly the what James warned against....  The GB are working with people on the committees who are NOT all anointed...... please keep this in mind. The slave are training people who are not anointed to take over. 

Yes the wicked slave is doing just that.  Matt 24:48-51  These men have no fear of God as Mal 1:1-3 states.  It is incredible how you have described the man of lawlessness in this quote, but your eyes are blind to its true identity.

What was the disgusting thing standing in the holy place, or on holy ground in the first century?  Was it a nation that was standing in another “holy place” in another religion, other than Jerusalem and home of the temple - the sacred ground/dwelling of God? 

Why would the abomination that causes desolation/the disgusting thing be anything else today, but in God’s spiritual “holy place”/holy ground” of His spiritual Temple? 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22

You are looking at things physically and not spiritually.  The anointed are under the New covenant/”New Jerusalem” and ARE the temple. They are God’s “holy ground”. (1 Cor 3:9) But, as you say, the “slave” is training people who are not anointed TO TAKE OVER, which is exactly what the man of lawlessness accomplishes.  Rev 11:1,2

These people are “standing where they do not belong”. Mark 13:14

1 Thess 2:3,4 - Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way. For that day will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction.

He opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he sits[

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“temple” publicizing that he himself is God.

Someday, all JWs will have to face the true identity of the “man of lawlessness”. 

For a refresher from WATCHTOWER’S “Aid to Bible Understanding” , even though it is not totally accurate but  generally explains where the man of lawlessness sits.

The “man of lawlessness” sets himself in opposition to God and is therefore an opposer or a “satan,” which word means opposer. And, indeed, his “presence is according to the operation of Satan.” (2 Thess 2:9) The character of this apostasy is a “mystery” or sacred secret, not to God, but to the Devil, who would like to hold it under cover; it is a religious mystery. (2 Thess 2:7) By his lying teachings contrary to, or superseding, as it were, the law of God, the “man of lawlessness” sets himself up over Jehovah God and other ‘gods,’ mighty ones of the earth, and also against God’s holy ones, true spiritual brothers of Jesus Christ. (Compare 2 Pet 2:10-13.) Since he is a hypocrite, a false teacher claiming to be Christian, he “sits down in the temple of The God,” as if being of the spiritual temple.

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So, why do JWs today look elsewhere for the man of lawlessness and not where God’s spiritual temple is found in the anointed ones?  It is because today your false teachers, inspired by demonic expressions, work to keep the true identity “under cover”; thus, they have changed this teaching by projecting it totally away from God’s authentic “holy place”. 

Rev 11:2; 13:7; 16:13-16

 

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15 hours ago, Witness said:

By his lying teachings contrary to, or superseding, as it were, the law of God, the “man of lawlessness” sets himself up over Jehovah God and other ‘gods,’ mighty ones of the earth, and also against God’s holy ones, true spiritual brothers of Jesus Christ. (Compare 2 Pet 2:10-13.) Since he is a hypocrite, a false teacher claiming to be Christian, he “sits down in the temple of The God,” as if being of the spiritual temple.

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To explain the spiritual temple once more:

The spiritual Temple/House/Dwelling of God from the Insight Book, vol. 1 pp. 513-514 (1 Pet 5:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22)

"Jesus Christ is Scripturally spoken of as the “foundation cornerstone” of the Christian congregation, which is likened to a spiritual house. Peter quoted and applied to Jesus Christ this prophecy regarding the  'foundation cornerstone' on which individual anointed Christians are built up as  'living stones,' to become spiritual house or temple for Jehovah." (

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It is their  daily sacrifices of praise, the "constant feature" that has been eliminated in the organization.  The anointed "buy" their spiritual food from whom you call "the slave",  @BroRando. (Rev 13:16,17)  Aren't all anointed ones "slaves"/servants of Jesus Christ? (Matt 25:21; Gal 1:10)  

This constant feature of sacrifice was the obligation of the early priesthood.  Now, we have a spiritual priesthood who should provide spiritual food, "fruit", of truth to their listeners.  (Mal 2:7; 1 Pet 1:5; Heb 13:15) Yet, as @Arauna made clear, the anointed are not sought out purposefully. Their role as the authentic priests and "kings of the earth" under Jesus Christ, is gone. (Rev 1:5)  She says, "The slave are training people who are not anointed to take over " , as if anyone has the right to take over, to usurp God's chosen anointed priests! (Ezek 44:6-9) 

"Have ye not cast out the priests of YHVH, the sons of Aaron, and the Levites, and made you priests as the peoples of the lands? whoever comes to consecrate himself with a young bullock and seven rams, he becomes a priest of what is not God." 2 Chron 13:9

The elders are priests of "Jehovah's ORGANIZATION" - they are not sanctified by God to serve Him.

The anointed are a dying nation inside the Wt.   The elder body is glorified, their sacrifices of praise are readily accepted without question -  praise that glorifies an organization and not the Father.  The elders are a priesthood that serve an idol.

Because the anointed inside have bowed down to men, they have not, and can not "remain" attached to Jesus Christ, the vine.  Now, they are unable to provide the fruit of TRUTH to their hearers.  They regurgitate what your "slave" supplies - lies, that has caused their ruin as a priesthood...as a spiritual people.  

“I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener.  He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes so that it will be even more fruitful.  You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you.  Remain in me, as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me."

I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing.  If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned.  If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you.  This is to my Father’s glory, that you bear much fruit, showing yourselves to be my disciples."  John 15:1-8

 

 

 

 

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On 5/29/2021 at 8:27 AM, Arauna said:

The GB are working with people on the committees who are NOT all anointed...... please keep this in mind. The slave are training people who are not anointed to take over. 

1. They are not the Faithful and discreet slave. You have just chosen to believe they are, and only because they told you so.

2. Re-read what you've written here. There are thousands of Anointed Ones still alive around this Earth. WHY should your GB be working with people on committees that are not Anointed ?  Your GB is obviously raising the 'little dogs' higher than the Anointed Ones from around the Earth.  'Beating their fellow slaves'.

On 5/29/2021 at 8:27 AM, Arauna said:

So why do you worship the idea that anointed ones must be special and have a special place in the congregation?

Anointed ones are special and the scriptures prove it.

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  Matthew 24 : 22
"If those days had not been cut short, nobody would be saved. But for the sake of the elect, those days will be cut short."   

For the sake of the Chosen ones, the Anointed, the days will be cut short. Not for the 'little dogs'. 

 Zechariah 8:23

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Thus says the LORD of hosts: "In those days, ten men will take hold, out of all the languages of the nations, they will take hold of the skirt of him who is a Jew, saying, 'We will go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.'"

Ten men, a complete number. Out of all the nations, non anointed, 'little dogs'. And of course the JEW is the True Anointed ones. 

The earthly class are 'little dogs' in comparison to the True Anointed. 

Matthew 15 : 24 through 28.

 He (Jesus) answered: “I was not sent to anyone except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” 25  But the woman came and did obeisance to him, saying: “Lord, help me!” 26  In answer he said: “It is not right to take the bread of the children and throw it to the little dogs.” 27  She said: “Yes, Lord, but really the little dogs do eat of the crumbs falling from the table of their masters.” 28  Then Jesus replied to her: “O woman, great is your faith; let it happen to you as you wish.” And her daughter was healed from that hour on.

Almighty God, through Jesus Christ, is gathering the True Anointed ones. The earthly class, little dogs, can eat the crumbs of truth but not with full understanding. Just as Jesus went to 'the house of Israel' back then, He is more concerned with the 'house of spiritual Israel' right now.  So we need to remember that the earthly class are just 'little dogs' and should not be taking the place of the True Anointed. 

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On 5/29/2021 at 5:55 AM, Arauna said:

The charter of the UN declares that it was created to promote ‘peace and security’. JW’s slave class has identified the “image of the beast” as the UN and the 10 kings as a conglomerate of rulers.

 

On closer inspection one notices the corruption in UN ranks and how positions and influence are currently being bought by billionaires who donate from their “charity foundations”.  These charity foundations do not pay taxes on earnings, yet may donate billions to the ‘causes and research’ which can actually make them richer, or donate-buy global influence in all the right companies (strategic organizations), which give them control of important global assets and decision-making bodies (almost like insider trading). This is presently taking place in most western countries too. Most billionaires became exponentially richer during the Corona lockdown.

The UN is actively promoting its UN Agenda 21 and UN Agenda 2030; some of the goals which are planned to be fully implemented by the year 2030. (It is on the UN website and openly discussed in many places on internet). A minimum of 193 nations willingly adopted the ‘sustainable development goals” which are “binding” even if the original document says it is not. Subsequent changes in specific clauses made it so.

UN is already ruling like an ‘image’ or phantom (it needs no substantial existence) behind the scenes because they are now boldly and openly setting most of the policies for the entire globe. (I will provide a link below).

For example, the new transgenderism is being pushed in schools and kindergarten by UN. It has become a highly politicized issue but I only mention this point because it is one of the global goals in which the UN (UNESCO, UNICEF, UNFPA), is setting the pace. Poorer countries, who do not participate in the project, receive no desperately needed funding from the UN. Short debate about it on UK TV: 

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  This includes “comprehensive sex education (in porneia), abortion, transgenderism - sexualizing young children etc.)  
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WHO, World Health Organization, is setting policies for world health even though they are favoring China in their decisions.  China has also acquired a very influential position in the Human Rights Council despite its current record of atrocities. Iran is now head of UN Women’s Rights. China has invested heavily in all new ‘sustainable development’ technology to become the new world manufacturing leader yet CCP is decimating African forests of trees and the sea from fish – not walking their ‘save-the-earth’ talk.

How is the UN taking control? Local municipal NGOs all over the world are receiving funding from billionaire ‘charity foundations’ to promote UN’s ‘sustainable development’ goals at local level in most western countries (working against the autonomy of the governments). Local laws regarding ‘land use’ are being changed against the wishes of the people. Local people who try to stop them are targeted and run into legal problems, legal harassment and mischief by law.

Please keep in mind the UN is an independent private organization. UN Agenda 2030 (an extension of Agenda 21 for the 21st century) is promoted as a wonderful utopia that is awaiting humankind….. until one understands how it will be swiftly implemented under the banner of ‘sustainability’ for the earth with the first radical milestones set for 2030. The next 5 years will see rapid change in the world, all detrimental…… if it lasts that long.  

While sustainability of the earth is a wonderful idea, the global companies (which are responsible for the pollution and all the bad mega-farming practices, GMOs, removal of diversity farming and taking away diversity of seeds, and also taking control of the world’s seed banks…), these are the very same global companies which made an agreement with the UN to promote its goals.

These global companies have already strategically positioned themselves to have much power in future.  British Petroleum and Monsanto (previous name) are only two of them as well as the UN linked banks and central banks. Billionaires have already invested in most of the future companies which will provide food (including artificial meat), energy, surveillance technology, health technology (which will only comprise pharmaceutical gene therapy and the phasing out of natural products), land, and water in the future ‘sustainable reset’ of the globe.

This is how UN goals are being implemented: but first a question. Who comprises the ‘World Economic Forum’ which meets at DAVOS every year? Its members comprise the world leaders, G20, the richest people / corporations on earth, ‘old money’ such as East India company, and banks. To implement Agenda 2030 goals, WEF members are gaining control of the food production, water, land use, all energy and much more in order to ‘enforce’ stricter sustainable goals.

Please read the goals of this agreement between UN and WEF at:

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WEF partners each pay between 60,000 to 600,000 Swiss Franc per year.  CHF is similar to the Euro.  

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You will notice that ‘digital governance’ is included above.  They need, and are aiming for total digital surveillance of every individual. The health passport will link each individual’s personal information – past and present. The person will not be able to go out to ‘buy or sell’ if they do not comply with all instructions…… including the ones that Satan has already inspired and the ones that Jehovah will allow (destruction of religion).

Satan is being drawn out to bring his ‘peace and security’ but we know he is the father of death and deceit.…. and oppression. No wonder, Brother Rutherford spoke of a totalitarian system. He thought it was Hitler – but he was a bit premature in his projection. This partnership between the WEF and UN will stealthily lead to a new form of fascism.

Additionally, leaders of the world have constantly called for a reduction of the world’s population. This is also been taken up by some of these powerful WEF members. Suddenly we see new inhumane abortion laws when babies are left to die without painkillers and their body parts sold for profit. The elderly are stuffed into homes where their chances of surviving Covid-19 are almost zero. Transgenderism curbs pro-creation. Fertility rates are falling sharply due to pollution and drop in sperm counts. This is one of the global goals of the ruling class. This reminds me of the ante-diluvian period under the demons.

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Below is an interesting development in the guest for global governance by these ‘kings’ together with the UN: We are heading for a techno-corporatocracy as corporations have captured the UN.

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It is therefore not surprising that the WEF is using the Corona lockdown for the much advertised: ‘great economic reset’. (Type these words in and see what comes up - a global financial reset). Middle class businesses are currently being decimated by the lockdown but WEF members are designated as ‘vital infrastructure’ and are still operating without restrictions…. and received billions of dollars as bailouts.

The result is a financial ‘equalization’ of the middle and poorer classes……. so that most people will soon be ready to accept (UBI) Universal Basic Income, which may be deposited electronically in each person’s personal account held with a central bank. Smaller banks will disappear.  Digital money is being implemented as we speak and the discussions behind the scenes are ongoing as the financial reset is being managed during the Corona pandemic lockdown.

There is much more I can say about the electronic passport and surveillance etc......  but I leave you with this information. 

 

On 5/30/2021 at 5:42 AM, Patiently waiting for Truth said:

I think the leaders of the Watchtower and JW org are full of false teachings, and they continue to make up more. 

So is the internet and forums like this...your own lack of humility condemns you to be lower than the little dogs.....for myself...I am a little dog who hopefully he shows mercy to ....

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The whole arrangement of the anointed Body, is to benefit all of God’s children and God’s creation in the Kingdom.

As @Patiently waiting for Truth posted above:

"For the eagerly expecting creation awaits eagerly the revelation of the sons of God. 20 For the creation has been subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of the one who subjected it, in hope 21 that the creation itself also will be set free from its servility to decay, into the glorious freedom of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation groans together and suffers agony together until now."

 Since Jesus established the spiritual temple on his body, as the chief cornerstone with the apostles and prophets, each faithful anointed one must be refined by his truth, and then to be sealed into this spiritual house. (Eph 2:20-22)  Their purpose as the Bride of Jesus Christ, is to serve God, Jesus and His children to come.  Everything about the anointed receiving salvation first, ultimately benefits the children to come.  They are God’s dwelling in Spirit.  So, when Rev 21:2 says…  “And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared like a bride adorned for her husband”…this means that the Bride/anointed/dwelling of God’s Spirit/Temple/Holy City/New Jerusalem which all are the same, are present to help and lead God’s children in truth on the earth. 

“Behold, the dwelling of God is with humanity,
and he will take up residence with them,
and they will be his people
and God himself will be with them.
And he will wipe away every tear from their eyes,
and death will not exist any longer,
andmourning or wailing or pain will not exist any longer.
The former thingshave passed away.”

God “takes up residence with them” through His anointed.  Just as the physical temple housed God’s Holy Spirit, each sealed anointed one is a dwelling for God’s Spirit.  1 Cor 3:16  They are a mobile “tabernacle” holding the Word of God in their hearts.   Heb 8:10

“And what agreement does the temple of God have with idols? For we are the temple of the living God, just as God said,

I will live in them and will walk about among them,
and I will be their God and they will be my people.” 2 Cor 6:16

Through them, God will dwell with humanity.  Of course, according to the Wt., the “144,000” and Jesus cannot leave a literal heaven.  Not true.  The scriptures give us the truth.

“And he said to him, “Truly, truly I say to all of you, you will see heaven opened and the angels ("messengers") of God ascending and descending upon the Son of Man.”  John 1:51

“And they were singing a new song, saying,

“You are worthy to take the scroll
    and to open its seals,
because you were slaughtered,
    and bought people for God by your blood
    from every tribe and language and people and nation,

and made them a kingdom and priests to our God,
    and they will reign on the earth.”  Rev 5:9,10

The wt organization will not be present on the earth in the Kingdom as it teaches.  The elders will not be princes on the earth as the wt teaches, since the Bride and Jesus will be with mankind as the scriptures tell us.  Like their “husband”, each anointed one will bring “healing to the nations”, as a “tree of life”.  Rev 22:2

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On 5/30/2021 at 3:33 AM, Witness said:

here are others who may understand the spiritual meaning behin

Yes, the others who are as renegade as you are listen to you.  This forum seems to be sounding board for all apostates.  I think you have noticed that I do not really value anything I read here. I give a comment and then disappear.  I noticed there are some here with small minds who just follow to downvote........  lol.

I think I am past the stage of pity with you lot.  I feel I understand how Jehovah felt towards pharaoh. He allowed him to keep existing to show his power.  Jehovah is the judge, so I therefore refrain from nastiness toward you or even rebuking you..... I view it as a useless 

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