Jehovah’s Witness | OPEN , Interview with JW Spokesman Robert Hendriks

[Witness]

Robert Hendriks has a habit of saying basically the same thing in all his interviews; love of neighbor, love of God promotes the preaching work.  Also, love of neighbor and sanctity of life was the reason for stopping the public preaching work.  Propaganda, shedding a most favorable light amidst the darkness of child abuse from the same organization.

Is it truly love of neighbor to teach someone a doctrine, that is exposed as not true?  How could anyone say yes? It is not love, neither in the preaching work nor in the congregations by the leaders.  It’s like buying a set of encyclopedias from a door-to-door salesmen for your child, thinking they are accurately portraying the reference information needed to aid in your children’s search for knowledge, only to find out that each page holds major lies.  We would consider the salesman whom we bought the set from, a charlatan.

4 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Does anyone in WTJWorg think that such a virtual meetings, virtual walks from house to house on the virtual streets and the like, will have bad consequences for the spirituality of JW members, now and in the future? With an already existing threat to spirituality due to so many changed doctrinal interpretations and religious practices inside and outside the JW church.

Exactly.  If the foundation of teaching is based on the necessity to continually change doctrine (because the previous doctrine was not TRUE), no one can develop a true personal love for God and Christ. We know them through the knowledge of truth, not through wrong, failed, deceitful doctrines. (Ps 25:5;John 14:6)

Hypocrites! Isaiah prophesied correctly about you when he said:

⁸ This people honors me with their lips,
but their heart is far from me.
⁹ They worship me in vain,
teaching as doctrines human commands.”  Matt 15:7-9

@JW Insider - People can come into an association with our Christian brotherhood for all the wrong reasons, and never develop a true personal love for Jesus and Jehovah, but this doesn't mean that anyone should claim it was negative experiences in the organization that killed them spirituality. That would negate another of Paul's statements.

Losing one’s spirituality doesn’t result from someone joining for the wrong reasons, when the reasons for the existence of the organization, are already on shaky ground, evident through the twisted teachings of the Wt. (Matt 24:24,25; Col 2:8; 2 Tim 2:25,26; Rev 13:10; Rev 13:1,2,5-7,11,12; 16:13-16; 12:3,4) 

It is a place where the key of knowledge is taken away from its members, through the teachings of falsehoods which is called “new light”, “adjustments in understanding”. (Isa 33:6; Luke 11:52)  This in totality, is a negative experience.  So, yeah, people leave because of it and never pursue truth afterwards.  But not all of those joined for the wrong reasons; they joined thinking they had found TRUTH, and were disappointed to learn otherwise.   Others do pursue their spirituality upon leaving, and find truth in Jesus Christ, because they realized they were lacking a spiritual connection in the Father and the Son.   (John 14:6; 1 John 4:6)  

God’s word is solid Truth.  Jesus, as the Word, is solid Truth.  How can anyone come to know them OR truth, if it isn’t offered on a consistent basis?  “Living water” is consistent. (John 7:38; Jer 2:13)  The vision of the temple in Ezekiel describes the water (symbolic for life) as only getting deeper. It doesn’t stop at any point, or dry up, as a doctrine of men does; nor is it ever found to cause disease or death of another.  (Ezek 47:1-9; Rev 22:1,2; Rev 8:10,11) 

 The “bread of life” doesn’t become stale, tossed out for a new loaf. (John 6:48,51) These two sources of “food” in Jesus Christ are expected to be offered by those anointed teachers/”trees” who “remain” in him –through their consistent growing light of truth that LASTS, never rots, never needs to be discarded. (Matt 7:15-20; John 15:1-4,16,17)  Otherwise, the threat to one’s spirituality – one who accepts tainted water or stale bread full of a teacher’s own “yeast”, brings about a spiritual death.  (Matt 16:6)

Good gifts of living water and the bread of life is showing love to one’s neighbor. Wt’s history proves that its teachers do not present good, consistent, loving gifts.

“Which of you, if your son asks for bread, will give him a stone? ¹⁰ Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? ¹¹ If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him! ¹² So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.”  Matt 7:9-12

@JW Insider - (Romans 8:37-39) For I am convinced that neither death nor life nor angels nor governments nor things now here nor things to come nor powers ³⁹ nor height nor depth nor any other creation will be able to separate us from God’s love that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

The apostle Paul was connected in truth to Jesus Christ.  The organization is the stumbling block that keeps one from knowing truth, from forming that connection.  If we tolerate shifting doctrine that scripture shows, does not have its source in Jesus, well yes, we have then allowed powers, governors of their government, to separate us from God’s love.  Why do JWs allow men uninspired to get away with it?  Why do they make excuses for their lies?  Why do JWs believe they have truth when scriptures prove they do not? The best way to live up to Paul's words, is to leave the stumbling block behind.   The GB are not sincerely asking for truth from Jesus Christ, because they love their own doctrine, their perversion of scripture. (Matt 7:7,8; Gal 1:6-10; 2 Pet 3:17,18; Phil 3:18,19) What comes out of their mouth proves no connection with Jesus as their Head. (Luke 6:45)  It is Jesus’ words that contain life, not the doctrine of men.  (Eph 4:14,15)

“Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.” 2 Tim 2:15

 

 

 

 

[Witness]

5 hours ago, Witness said:

Robert Hendriks has a habit of saying basically the same thing in all his interviews; love of neighbor, love of God promotes the preaching work.  Also, love of neighbor and sanctity of life was the reason for stopping the public preaching work.  Propaganda, shedding a most favorable light amidst the darkness of child abuse from the same organization.

https://knox.villagesoup.com/2021/10/09/lawsuit-alleges-church-elder-sexually-abused-youth/

[BroRando]

Just a few of the many Catholic Church's Clergy... Most Catholics that are invloved with Child Sexual Abuse are with its Congregation and their Religion is over overlooked.  The Predator next door doesn't go up to your child and informs anyone that he is a Catholic.  

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"The intractability and pervasiveness of the problem suggest that it is deeply rooted in the Church’s own history. In fact, several explanations proffered in heated debates about the current crisis—especially among Catholics—are wrapped in historical judgments, particularly about the development of the Roman Catholic Church since the Second Vatican Council (1962-65).

Some Church critics point to an ossified church structure and antiquated norms of sex and gender, including clerical celibacy and a male priesthood. Others denounce the subversion of the clergy by an assumed gay subculture or, more broadly, changing sexual mores since the 1960s." https://origins.osu.edu/article/catholic-church-sexual-abuse-pope-confession-priests-nuns

The global scale of child sexual abuse in the Catholic Church

For instance, most here on this forum are not Jehovah's Witnesses. Most are members of Christendom and keep their membership a secret.  However, I am postive if all were throughyy investigated.  A good portion Never were Jehovah Witnesses at all..  There are thousands of sects of Christendom that point their finger but are totally SILENT about the Islam faith not to mention it's founder of the one the sects called Muslim never mention his 9 year bride.  Nor is media gonna to cover it.  And if there was such a report, the reporter would be targeted as a Relgious Bigotory for reporting Child Abuse and attacking the Muslim faith

Such hyprocisy helps the perpetrator to keep perpetrating on children.  

[Witness]

10 hours ago, BroRando said:

Just a few of the many Catholic Church's Clergy.

Are you saying that God's judgment is more severe against the Catholic Church than toward His holy people " Israel" under covenant - the anointed priests (1 Pet 2:5,9), and GB whom we assume are anointed?  Does God expect your "Gentile" elder judges found to be pedophiles, to receive a slap on the hand, while you expect the clergy of the Catholic Church to receive a much more stringent judgment by the court system?

"So now we call the arrogant blessed; not only are the doers of wickedness built up but they also test God and escape.’” (read further Mal 3:15-18)

"Therefore, every one of you who judges is without excuse. For when you judge another, you condemn yourself, since you, the judge, do the same things.  Now we know that God’s judgment on those who do such things is based on the truth.  Do you think—anyone of you who judges those who do such things yet do the same—that you will escape God’s judgment?  Rom 2:1-3

 

 

 

 

 

 

[BroRando]

46 minutes ago, Witness said:

Are you saying that God's judgment is more severe against the Catholic Church than toward His holy people " Israel" under covenant - the anointed priests (1 Pet 2:5,9), and GB whom we assume are anointed?  Does God expect your "Gentile" elder judges found to be pedophiles, to receive a slap on the hand, while you expect the clergy of the Catholic Church to receive a much more stringent judgment by the court system?

"So now we call the arrogant blessed; not only are the doers of wickedness built up but they also test God and escape.’” (read further Mal 3:15-18)

"Therefore, every one of you who judges is without excuse. For when you judge another, you condemn yourself, since you, the judge, do the same things.  Now we know that God’s judgment on those who do such things is based on the truth.  Do you think—anyone of you who judges those who do such things yet do the same—that you will escape God’s judgment?  Rom 2:1-3

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pointing out the Hyprocisy.  When was the last time a journalist reported an Atheist or a Believer in the Big Bang was invloved in Child Sexual Abuse?  Yet, out of the Billions of Atheists, not a single report?

 

[Witness]

2 hours ago, BroRando said:

ointing out the Hyprocisy.  When was the last time a journalist reported an Atheist or a Believer in the Big Bang was invloved in Child Sexual Abuse?  Yet, out of the Billions of Atheists, not a single report?

 

I get it.  When you read the article, you obviously recognized the seriousness of the wrong committed by the elders.  I would guess subconsciously, you reasoned there is nothing you can do about it, shifting your focus on other religions or atheists to soothe your conscience.  That’s very common for people do.  One thing about this blame-shifting, it helps erase the same problem happening in the org., out of the mind.  

God judges those “on the outside”, (1 Cor 5:12) so we must examine the practices of God’s holy priesthood; where a spiritual “Gentile” nation of elders judges them hypocritically, and all JWs. (2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 13:5-7)   Why, is this sin of neglect toward abuse victims in the org., predominant in the news?  I can’t dismiss the power of God and what Jesus said to his people,  “ For there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, nor hidden that will not be known. ³ Therefore whatever you have spoken in the dark will be heard in the light, and what you have spoken in the ear in inner rooms will be proclaimed on the housetops.”  Luke 12:2,3

“inner rooms” – not only the inner rooms where the GB meet, but judicial committees where elders meet to pass hypocritical judgment against all. 

The first sins to be declared and seen, are those of God's people under covenant. Jesus and his disciples always revealed the hypocrisy among their people.  We do the same, since hypocrisy and threatening the innocent ones, breaks God’s laws fulfilled in Jesus Christ.  Ezek 3:18,19; 1 Cor 6:2; Eph 5:11,12; Ps 94:16; Rom 13:9  We have to take responsibility for the actions of our own people, just as Jeremiah did.  Jer. 8:14-21  His righteous conscience motivated him to do so.  

 

[Srecko Sostar]

6 minutes ago, Witness said:

One thing about this blame-shifting, it helps erase the same problem happening in the org., out of the mind. 

Perhaps Rando thinks that members of "Babylon the Great" deserve more public attention / disgust and more punishment from secular courts. On the other hand, the same kind of sin / crime in WTJWorg should not be an obstacle for JW members to show "understanding" towards their own sinners, and also, God will be merciful because it is "his" people after all.

[Patiently waiting for Truth]

14 hours ago, BroRando said:

Pointing out the Hyprocisy.  When was the last time a journalist reported an Atheist or a Believer in the Big Bang was invloved in Child Sexual Abuse?  Yet, out of the Billions of Atheists, not a single report?

 

In the countries where CSA is reported it is mainly because government deparments have investigated ALL religions and clubs etc that involve children being close to adults.  Even charities are investigated for CSA.  

It's very strange that the USA doesn't seem to be investigating on a large scale.  Here in UK the Charity Commision and the IICSA have both been involved in deep investigations of CSA in religions. 

I believe that the Australian Royal Commision started with the investigation of the Catholic church.