lucifer

[Peter Carroll]

why is lucifer used in some bibles?. and why is it associated with satan? when its meaning is that of a light bearer...

[BroRando]

1 hour ago, Peter Carroll said:

why is lucifer used in some bibles?. and why is it associated with satan? when its meaning is that of a light bearer...

Strong's Exhaustive Concordance

lucifer

From halal (in the sense of brightness); the morning-star -- lucifer.

see HEBREW halal

[BroRando]

You may find this to be of interest. "When the morning stars joyfully cried out together, And all the sons of God began shouting in applause? (Job 38:7) 

Morning Stars are in pural.  Since Monring Stars represent the Beginning of Creation. Who is the other Morning Star? (Rev 22:16)

[Peter Carroll]

in the early greek translation lucifer is used in 2peter 1:19 for referencing jesus christ , and so we know satan has never been known as a light bearer ,,lucifer is never a name for satan

[BroRando]

2 hours ago, Peter Carroll said:

in the early greek translation lucifer is used in 2peter 1:19 for referencing jesus christ , and so we know satan has never been known as a light bearer ,,lucifer is never a name for satan

Both Jesus and Satan can be refered to the Day Star, so context is important.  These two Morning Stars or you can say Day Stars have been at each throats over Jehovah's Sovereignty since the founding of mankind. 

2 Peter 1:19

New Living Translation
Because of that experience, we have even greater confidence in the message proclaimed by the prophets. You must pay close attention to what they wrote, for their words are like a lamp shining in a dark place—until the Day dawns, and Christ the Morning Star shines in your hearts.

 

Isaiah 14:12
How you have fallen from heaven, O day star, son of the dawn! You have been cut down to the ground, O destroyer of nations.

[Peter Carroll]

i believe the word in hebrew at isiash 14:12 is haylel and it was the early cathloic popes who put the word lucifer in place of day star at isaiah which is talking about satan ,so it was never satans name ,but say it enough times and many will accept it

[BroRando]

5 hours ago, Peter Carroll said:

i believe the word in hebrew at isiash 14:12 is haylel and it was the early cathloic popes who put the word lucifer in place of day star at isaiah which is talking about satan ,so it was never satans name ,but say it enough times and many will accept it

Really, Satan's name is unknown as it should be. 

[Peter Carroll]

18 hours ago, BroRando said:

Really, Satan's name is unknown as it should be. 

in total agreement his name was never used by the bible writers and therefore  never  used by God when dealing with mankind

the point being lucifer has nothing to do with satan ,unpopular as that may sound

the hebrew word haylel at isaiah14:12 is only used once in the bible so is unique in its being recorded there