CHINA: Fake News vs. Real News

[Dmitar]

15 hours ago, Thinking said:

Dont use google or utube…they are useless and tools to the satanic agenda….you have to go to places like… BITCHUTE ….RUMBLE …NEW YOU TUBE … …BRIGHTON…there are many others but I can not keep up with them…..look for the specialists in the field of vaccinations ..science and medicine…

Thank you, friend. I consider only academic sources for my review in biological data. The concern lies with the apparent review in the S-protein, when there are 4 structured proteins in the Covid-19 variant. The coronavirus has been around since it was detected in the 20s from an animal host.

Other viable vaccines that are not mRNA synthesis harmful virus by removing the most harmful markers in order to become none harmful. A human system will still detect it as a foreign body in order to develop antibodies. The mRNA is not that standard. Therefore, the synthetic genome and pathogenesis mimic what the other 3 proteins do once the S-Protein attach to the host cell. The spike protein value is only to attach.

The earlier understanding of the Covid-19 virus is being referenced here. However, apologies for having to have made it quarrelsome, which wasn’t my intent.

 

[TrueTomHarley]

On 11/19/2021 at 10:12 AM, JW Insider said:

I have a feeling that most of those jokes, even though based on local truths, were told in the West to gain camaraderie and approval with their new Western audience

I didn’t get that sense. Rather, it seemed to be more akin to the “gallows humor” cops develop as they resign themselves to the viewpoint that much of their most diligent efforts will be undone by snafus at higher levels. That’s not to say that such jokes would not be wildly popular in the West, but it doesn’t seem they were originated for that purpose.

 

On 11/19/2021 at 10:12 AM, JW Insider said:

but I don't believe there were any Eastern European communist countries that had not been the victim of Western sabotage. 

The sense I got from two series of lectures is that they sabotaged themselves, making any Western sabotage beside the point. It is the aspect of ‘command economies’ that disincentivize initiative and thereby make trade with outside powers impossible because whatever goods are produced soon fall behind in the quality that competitiveness spawns. I gather that those communist economies had no interest in trade anyhow, except with other satellite countries—and even feared it, since goods could not be imported without the attitudes of entrepreneurship and relative freedoms that enabled them—attitudes corrosive to those communist govennments. Western media was blocked to the extent possible, since when it was not possible, Eastern Europeans saw just how much better Western Europeans lived, and that fostered still more discontent with their governments.  The prof, who has lived and taught in Russia, said the success of the Beatles, along with rock & roll in general, terrified the Soviets because it was a completely popularly driven phenomenon that created huge income with no input whatsoever from any central planning. I took this remark at face value and did not think of it as a baby boomer looking for any pretext he could find to insert his favorite band, as I do with Bob Dylan.

One of these profs points out that the Soviet economy did make reasonable progress after WWII. The country was stable, enabling some patriotism and trust—important to any economy, and it invested in infrastructure and meeting basic housing needs of its people, simply by ‘commanding’ it. But its own inefficiencies and disincentives steadily undermined it. Khrushchev pounded on the table with ‘We will bury you.” He was speaking in terms of steel production, and by quota command the USSR actually did pass by the US in terms of steel, but by that time newer technologies such as plastic made that accomplishment less than it would appear. Personal disincentives at every point eroded the system. The prof tells how restaurants frequently closed at noon, for employees wanted to eat their lunch in peace, and would only open afterwards. Factories with the imposed quota to produce a certain number of shoes might produce them all in one size, as it was easier, and no idea of consumer demand or incentive to meet it had been supplied. There is even an example of one quota being met only with left shoes.

On 11/19/2021 at 10:12 AM, JW Insider said:

I would consider that their [1990s Russia] plunge into capitalism was a deliberate and successful sabotage by the USA to weaken their economy and position in the world.

This makes no sense at all to me and strikes me that you are trying to have it both ways. In the case of a communist, or socialist economy, yes, but Russia at the time was coming over ‘from the dark side,’ into democracy and free market. It was adopting the “right” system of government and it seems far more likely that the US would encourage it, if only in self-interest, just as they did with Germany and Japan after the WWII. 

Now, trying to sabotage a communist economy seems more likely to be a goal, and thus China presents a better target than Russia. Yet, there is reasonable, even thriving trade between the two countries—each constrained by neither wanting to import the ideology of the other—but growing nonetheless, so I think you overplay the sabotage case in the above instances. 

With small economies it is a different matter. Several examples are offered of the US thwarting the economies of South American economies when they chose the ‘wrong’ government, even when they did so democratically. 

You must understand that I’ve only made so much progress in my course auditing. I am like the Autocrat of the Breakfast table who tells of a fellow boarding house guest that appears to know everything there is to know about anthromorphic coal. On and on he speaks of it. But when conversation turns to bituminous coal, he strangely knows nothing. Turns out he has subscribed to one of those encyclopedias that used to come out in a series, and he had received and devoured only the A volume.

 

[Pudgy]

Could be worse ..... could be a Chinese Oligarch

who bought 200 Hunter Biden paintings .....

[Pudgy]

I have always felt extreme sympathy for people who fear imprisonment  to solitary confinement.  The humans I know and identify with would consider solitary confinement a highly desired plus.

[TrueTomHarley]

17 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

One of these profs points out

Among my greatest surprises is that the philosophical orientation of government doesn’t seem to matter much as regards economic success. I suppose had I lived in Asia, I would have known that long ago. “Freedom-loving” countries of the Western variety succeed, but so do certain “authoritarian” governments. Vietnam remains Communist, yet their economy has boomed (with no apparent efforts of the US to thwart it, contrary to JWI’s thesis). At one time I would have thought that you must have Western freedoms to succeed. Doesn’t appear to be the case.

Of course, when I say “succeed,” I only speak of higher living standards, not necessarily the cost to get there (especially, get there overnight, as many economies have done in recent years). South Korea has an explosive suicide rate among the young.

Like the Autocrat mentioned above, I haven’t reached the lectures of how a communist country loosens up the command aspect of its economy to take advantage of free-markets. The two terms seem to be mutually exclusive, yet they have been combined. But the biggest takeaway in the spiritual sense is that I can see why globalists would go ga-ga over the CCP. They have brought material prosperity to the masses and they do what they are told socially, making it easy to implement climate policy, pandemic policy, and any other form of social engineering desired.

[Arauna]

17 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

but Russia at the time was coming over ‘from the dark side,’ into democracy and free market.

There was a time in the past that Russia also pretended to come out of it links to Marxism to a more free market - but it was a ploy to build up again. Very few countries escape once they are communist.

Russia (large oil producer) made an agreement with Arabia to protect them (just as Kissinger organized in 1973 - to give protection in place of oil being sold in the dollar).  Now Saudi can sell in any currency and USA dollar is seeing the last of their crutch to hold up the economy.  Next day Russia made an agreement with another big oil country - Nigeria..... which also has big ties to China!   And to show disrespect to USA that they cannot do anything about the new deals - Russia and China put the new frightening nuclear supersonic missiles on their submarines - you know the ones that can go around the earth and cannot be shot down and then plunge down to earth  like an asteroid.

[Arauna]

On 11/19/2021 at 2:56 PM, TrueTomHarley said:

this not the primary stated goal of any system of human rule—to benefit the people?

The pretend to do so.... at least in the past they did.  They hid all the nasty deals and ugly stuff.  That is why some of the deals are coming out now and the final outcome just before Armageddon will be the worst in human history. We are going into the worst tribulation the world has ever seen and it did not come on us overnight - it turns out that a slow demolition of the old monetary system, education system, banking system as well as governance and laws was well planned and is being overthrown in a cultural revolution and biological and environmental warfare against the people - which was planned for decades.

The problem is this: they think they can control it all - the revolutionary reset of the world....... but the true reset is coming from Jehovah!. 

[TrueTomHarley]

6 minutes ago, Arauna said:

The problem is this: they think they can control it all - the revolutionary reset of the world....... but the true reset is coming from Jehovah!. 

This is the problem with a Mercola and Breggin’s books—their limited perspective. They are both sharply critical of the ‘great reset’ but they lose sight, imo, that a reset truly is needed. It is just that you can’t trust man to do it.

[Arauna]

On 11/20/2021 at 6:06 AM, NoisySrecko said:

I consider only academic sources for my review in biological data.

Most studies are paid for by someone who has the numbers skewed to reflect their view so they can make more money.  So rather follow the money (investments) and the laws that were broken to see which scientist or person is speaking the truth - these days that is the criteria!   scholars are al bought these days!

 

[Arauna]

On 11/19/2021 at 7:57 PM, TrueTomHarley said:

ou for Making My Book the #1 Overall Bestseller on Amazon

I used to listen to him and many other scientists on Dr Mercolas website.  Now it is blocked in the country I live in.

[TrueTomHarley]

1 hour ago, Arauna said:

Now it is blocked

Try https://breggin.com

[Arauna]

3 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

They are both sharply critical of the ‘great reset’ but they lose sight, imo, that a reset truly is needed. It is just that you can’t trust man to do it.

Most  try to fight what is coming by various means or look to human organizations to resolve it.

I listened to Kennedy give a summary of his book - it is quite damning near the end and shows the links between the military industrial complex - its secret branches and the pharma industrial complex. 

 here it is:  https://www.corbettreport.com/fauci/