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Yes. I can.......  the flood was a catastrophic event with the earth ripping open (under the sea) to expose the underground water and even lava coming up.  The sea pushed up and created tsunamis which

True - they equate science with truth.... but they forget that IMPERFECT humans are making the assumptions these theories are based upon.  Most of them are theory upon theory but the conclusions are d

You have so many theories that do not make sense because the premise is wrong:  Jehovah did not need to use evolution to create (which according to theory happened all by chance with no purpose); and

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You have so many theories that do not make sense because the premise is wrong:  Jehovah did not need to use evolution to create (which according to theory happened all by chance with no purpose); and as you know the number of years is the main part of the theory to get evolution to work (yet 5 billion years could still not create one cell), s o they came up with multiple universes to increase the "chances" of life emerging; and the argon test and carbon 14 test has too many adjustments to the calculations - flaws. 

Fossils are not as old as they say - because they now find blood vessels and collagen in the fossilized bones (repeated experiments).  This does not get much publicity-  only the theories they dub "facts" gets much publicity due to scientism being the new world religion - replacing our creator.

DNA evidence is emerging which indicates that one can calculate the number of generations through the number of mutations per generation.  Human life goes back to 3 branches (on the mitochondrial DNA which comes from the mother)......  after the flood.  They are even writing papers on this now...... but it does not get much publicity. 

One male DNA line for male chromosome. 

 

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Can you explain layers of fossils miles thick, and the explosions of new life every 60 million years or so (?), what is referred to as “punctuated evolution”?

I think Jehovah guided it all, as I previously explained. He may also have directed the meteorite that struck the Yucatán Peninsula, wiping out 95% of all life on Earth.

 

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Or just search “Mass Extinctions” …..

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1 hour ago, Arauna said:

Jehovah did not need to use evolution to create (which according to theory happened all by chance with no purpose);

If the figures on the age of the universe and the events in it are not accurate, because some say that the figures on the age of events on Earth are not accurate, it would mean that science cannot reliably claim or assume anything.
This means that even WTJWorg cannot rely reliably on scientific methods, not only when it comes to astronomy and space but also medicine and other scientific disciplines, then it is really ironic that WTJWorg literature deals with topics covered by scientists and that they publishes together with the religious content of his journals, giving them this or that conclusion.

Scientists have telescopes, these on Earth and those that travel through space, and they say that they are watching this or that (star explosion, merging galaxies and everything else), and that what they see now actually happened many millions of years ago. If the figures on the age of the Earth are not accurate, as you claim, then neither these figures on the age of the universe are reliable or accurate, because they come from “science”.
If, on the other hand, it is true that scientists see the current, present event (star explosions and galaxy mergers, etc.) through a telescope, then I would be interested to know what these events represent? That God continues to create the universe ... or to destroy it,..... or that he has long ago started processes unknown to us in other parts of the universe in which there is nothing but raw mass and energy?

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If the figures on the age of the universe and the events in it are not accurate, because some say that the figures on the age of events on Earth are not accurate, it would mean that science cannot reliably claim or assume anything.

the conclusion is unfounded and wrong ,it means science needs to improve ,its the scientist that is wrong and refuses to change

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35 minutes ago, Peter Carroll said:

 some simple bible res6F4BE234-672D-42D3-BDF7-A540879A0D7F.jpe

some simple lazy bible research solves this question

https://apologeticspress.org/the-land-of-nod-696/

Apparently you did not read the link you posted, because if you had you would have seen that everything he talks about is supposition and guesses about a very different situation than the one I proposed.

Additionally his guesses, presumptions, and assumptions he finds logical, while condemning other peoples guesses presumptions and assumptions, but it any rate the premise that he is working off of it’s not the same as mine.

You may want to reread the link that you posted to see what hard facts the author has, which are sorely lacking, invalidating his entire argument, not counting the fact that it’s based on false presumption compared to my own.

I proposed “A”.
 

The author is arguing against “B”.

 

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7 minutes ago, Peter Carroll said:

again trying to go off topic ,i know the truth hurts ,the bible has no false assumptions ,if you dont like going up against christians perhaps look for another planet to live on ,we will be around for along time

 

14 minutes ago, Pudgy said:

As usual, you completely misunderstood what I said, and instead introduced a false assumption, an appeal to the mob mentality, and an insult as a defense.

…. and with your last post, it again PROVES my last post.

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      Status Update, just for fun...if anyone is bored and wants something to read, here are some communications that show one example of how a disfellowshipping works. The emails are not posted in order, you have to look at the dates to figure out the order it happened in.😊

       














       





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      What an exciting evening! (Sorry if it rambles...)
       
      I was scared because I had to go into the "shark tank." Jehovah and Jesus went with me, and they totally rocked it!😆
       
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      (There were two COs because I guess one was getting a "shepherding visit week" from the other one...)
       
      The CO#2 was awesome, a really kind gentleman who acted like a shepherd. CO#1 didn't recognize me at first because during his last visit I didn't attend because I thought the trespassing ban was still in place (although it had been removed but the COBE conveniently forgot to tell me. I found out when I went to his house just before the Memorial to ask, since they never respond to any messages I send either by email or letter.)
       
      (Incidentally, I wrote in an earlier Status Update about my experiences running into the CO#1 at the assembly a couple of weeks ago...)
       
      As soon as we got in the KH, the regular Pharisee-types were shocked and dismayed and frowned because my presence is worse than if a contagious yowling leper came in. However, the CO#1 started asking my kids' names, and the elder standing there conveniently forgot how to talk so the CO went through the greetings and asked me my name and I chatted with him for a moment. He figured out who I was after a bit and I think he was a little shocked. (I have written to him plenty about the stuff going on in the congregation - he never replies.)
       
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