John 12.24to28

I am one of Jehovah's witnesses, and the return of Christ didn't happen in 1874 or in 1914. The stuff the org is teaching at present is wrong on that 1914 thing, but their false teaching doesn't change that Jehovah is true. They are misrepresenting Jehovah, but Jesus is going to fix that when he gets here.

The man said "as you continue to follow the direction...through his faithful slave...they will see how he is keeping you safe and secure."
 
Yeah, they'll see it when Bethel gets attacked by the UN at the beginning of the great tribulation and the GB gets removed. That's when they'll see how foolish it is to follow men rather than follow God. That's when they'll see that the "FDS" teaching is a sham and an apostasy, and that it didn't have Jesus approval.
 
 

Here's some proof Christ didn't take the throne in 1914: he didn't get rid of the false teachings in the congregations yet. If he was king, he'd throw out those nasty "Jezebel" guy liars who keep making up stuff at headquarters and trying to pass it off as "truth".
 
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(I just scanned through the broadcast for the month. The GB worship makes me so sick... Instead of telling the flock to follow Jesus and Jehovah, the GB is continuing to encourage apostasy and idolatry by means of their horrid "Faithful Discreet Slave" label. They mix it in and say worshipping the GB is how to worship Jehovah. They are such liars. Here are some screenshots... I can't wait until Jesus removes the "weeds" and the "leaven"...)
 
https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/LatestVideos/pub-jwb-104_1_VIDEO
 
from the June 2023 Broadcast, 153rd Gilead Graduation

Well, I didn't have the patience to listen to it, so I am thankful you were willing to summarize for us!
 
The fact that he would make up all those stories when the scriptures clearly say "no one knows the day or the hour" the Kingdom would begin...I don't understand why they keep saying it was 1914 or 1975 or that they know since Jesus said they wouldn't know.
 
The scriptures do have a ton to say about the time the UN rules as a dominant world power and how long the great tribulation lasts. It's amazing the GB don't have anything to say about that. They are asleep.
 
Jehovah has made clear that we are not yet in the time of Jesus' rule. We also are not at the feet of the dream image yet. The UN isn't the dominant world power yet. Satan hasn't been cast down yet. Religion hasn't been attacked and destroyed yet. God's Word shows that we are not at the end of the end of the "toes" yet. The great tribulation hasn't started yet, and once it does start the Bible says it will last 3 1/2 years.
 
 
 
 

Well, I didn't have the patience to listen to it, so I am thankful you were willing to summarize for us!
 
The fact that he would make up all those stories when the scriptures clearly say "no one knows the day or the hour" the Kingdom would begin...I don't understand why they keep saying it was 1914 or 1975 or that they know since Jesus said they wouldn't know.
 
The scriptures do have a ton to say about the time the UN rules as a dominant world power and how long the great tribulation lasts. It's amazing the GB don't have anything to say about that. They are asleep.
 
Jehovah has made clear that we are not yet in the time of Jesus' rule. We also are not at the feet of the dream image yet. The UN isn't the dominant world power yet. Satan hasn't been cast down yet. Religion hasn't been attacked and destroyed yet. God's Word shows that we are not at the end of the end of the "toes" yet. The great tribulation hasn't started yet, and once it does start the Bible says it will last 3 1/2 years.
 
 
 
 

"However, the inspired word clearly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired statements and teachings of demons,  by means of the hypocrisy of men who speak lies, whose conscience is seared as with a branding iron.  They forbid marriage..."
 
(1 Timothy 4:1-3)
 
"In fact, when we were with you, we used to give you this order: “If anyone does not want to work, neither let him eat.”  For we hear that some are walking disorderly among you, not working at all, but meddling with what does not concern them.  To such people we give the order and exhortation in the Lord Jesus Christ that they should work quietly and eat food they themselves earn. For your part, brothers, do not give up in doing good.  But if anyone is not obedient to our word through this letter, keep this one marked and stop associating with him, so that he may become ashamed.  And yet do not consider him an enemy, but continue admonishing him as a brother."
 
(2 Thessalonians 3:10-15)
 
"Concerning that day or the hour nobody knows, neither the angels in heaven nor the Son, but the Father."
 
(Mark 13:32)
 
"So when they had assembled, they asked him: “Lord, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?”  He said to them: “It does not belong to you to know the times or seasons that the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction."
 
(Acts 1:6,7)
 
It's interesting how many talks, presentations, videos, and books have been made about a make-believe topic! 1914 1975 etc etc...And also how the entire "Bethel" arrangement is an apostasy from what Jesus taught as regards the Christian congregation. Paul said to "mark" anyone who doesn't want to get a job and instead wants to live off others to do a "ministry" and to not associate with them. By that counsel, all of those at Bethel and all the COs should be "disfellowshipped" in the manner described by Paul. What a big mess!
 
@Srecko Sostar, thank you for taking the time to listen to and summarize that talk - F.W. Franz's talk is clearly all a form of a "performance" or like a comedy act! "Clowns" indeed!
 
"Then Jesus spoke to the crowds and to his disciples, saying:  “The scribes and the Pharisees have seated themselves in the seat of Moses.  Therefore, all the things they tell you, do and observe, but do not do according to their deeds, for they say but they do not practice what they say.  They bind up heavy loads and put them on the shoulders of men, but they themselves are not willing to budge them with their finger.  All the works they do, they do to be seen by men, for they broaden the scripture-containing cases that they wear as safeguards and lengthen the fringes of their garments.  They like the most prominent place at evening meals and the front seats in the synagogues  and the greetings in the marketplaces and to be called Rabbi by men.  But you, do not you be called Rabbi, for one is your Teacher, and all of you are brothers.  Moreover, do not call anyone your father on earth, for one is your Father, the heavenly One.  Neither be called leaders, for your Leader is one, the Christ.  But the greatest one among you must be your minister.  Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted."
 
(Matthew 23:1-12)
 
Jesus is going to humble them in time. Hopefully they repent.
 
"The GB has no clothes." Their self-exaltation as some kind of "FDS" clergy class thing is make-believe.

"However, the inspired word clearly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired statements and teachings of demons,  by means of the hypocrisy of men who speak lies, whose conscience is seared as with a branding iron.  They forbid marriage..."
 
(1 Timothy 4:1-3)
 
"In fact, when we were with you, we used to give you this order: “If anyone does not want to work, neither let him eat.”  For we hear that some are walking disorderly among you, not working at all, but meddling with what does not concern them.  To such people we give the order and exhortation in the Lord Jesus Christ that they should work quietly and eat food they themselves earn. For your part, brothers, do not give up in doing good.  But if anyone is not obedient to our word through this letter, keep this one marked and stop associating with him, so that he may become ashamed.  And yet do not consider him an enemy, but continue admonishing him as a brother."
 
(2 Thessalonians 3:10-15)
 
"Concerning that day or the hour nobody knows, neither the angels in heaven nor the Son, but the Father."
 
(Mark 13:32)
 
"So when they had assembled, they asked him: “Lord, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?”  He said to them: “It does not belong to you to know the times or seasons that the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction."
 
(Acts 1:6,7)
 
It's interesting how many talks, presentations, videos, and books have been made about a make-believe topic! 1914 1975 etc etc...And also how the entire "Bethel" arrangement is an apostasy from what Jesus taught as regards the Christian congregation. Paul said to "mark" anyone who doesn't want to get a job and instead wants to live off others to do a "ministry" and to not associate with them. By that counsel, all of those at Bethel and all the COs should be "disfellowshipped" in the manner described by Paul. What a big mess!
 
@Srecko Sostar, thank you for taking the time to listen to and summarize that talk - F.W. Franz's talk is clearly all a form of a "performance" or like a comedy act! "Clowns" indeed!
 
"Then Jesus spoke to the crowds and to his disciples, saying:  “The scribes and the Pharisees have seated themselves in the seat of Moses.  Therefore, all the things they tell you, do and observe, but do not do according to their deeds, for they say but they do not practice what they say.  They bind up heavy loads and put them on the shoulders of men, but they themselves are not willing to budge them with their finger.  All the works they do, they do to be seen by men, for they broaden the scripture-containing cases that they wear as safeguards and lengthen the fringes of their garments.  They like the most prominent place at evening meals and the front seats in the synagogues  and the greetings in the marketplaces and to be called Rabbi by men.  But you, do not you be called Rabbi, for one is your Teacher, and all of you are brothers.  Moreover, do not call anyone your father on earth, for one is your Father, the heavenly One.  Neither be called leaders, for your Leader is one, the Christ.  But the greatest one among you must be your minister.  Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted."
 
(Matthew 23:1-12)
 
Jesus is going to humble them in time. Hopefully they repent.
 
"The GB has no clothes." Their self-exaltation as some kind of "FDS" clergy class thing is make-believe.

"However, the inspired word clearly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired statements and teachings of demons,  by means of the hypocrisy of men who speak lies, whose conscience is seared as with a branding iron.  They forbid marriage..."
 
(1 Timothy 4:1-3)
 
"In fact, when we were with you, we used to give you this order: “If anyone does not want to work, neither let him eat.”  For we hear that some are walking disorderly among you, not working at all, but meddling with what does not concern them.  To such people we give the order and exhortation in the Lord Jesus Christ that they should work quietly and eat food they themselves earn. For your part, brothers, do not give up in doing good.  But if anyone is not obedient to our word through this letter, keep this one marked and stop associating with him, so that he may become ashamed.  And yet do not consider him an enemy, but continue admonishing him as a brother."
 
(2 Thessalonians 3:10-15)
 
"Concerning that day or the hour nobody knows, neither the angels in heaven nor the Son, but the Father."
 
(Mark 13:32)
 
"So when they had assembled, they asked him: “Lord, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?”  He said to them: “It does not belong to you to know the times or seasons that the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction."
 
(Acts 1:6,7)
 
It's interesting how many talks, presentations, videos, and books have been made about a make-believe topic! 1914 1975 etc etc...And also how the entire "Bethel" arrangement is an apostasy from what Jesus taught as regards the Christian congregation. Paul said to "mark" anyone who doesn't want to get a job and instead wants to live off others to do a "ministry" and to not associate with them. By that counsel, all of those at Bethel and all the COs should be "disfellowshipped" in the manner described by Paul. What a big mess!
 
@Srecko Sostar, thank you for taking the time to listen to and summarize that talk - F.W. Franz's talk is clearly all a form of a "performance" or like a comedy act! "Clowns" indeed!
 
"Then Jesus spoke to the crowds and to his disciples, saying:  “The scribes and the Pharisees have seated themselves in the seat of Moses.  Therefore, all the things they tell you, do and observe, but do not do according to their deeds, for they say but they do not practice what they say.  They bind up heavy loads and put them on the shoulders of men, but they themselves are not willing to budge them with their finger.  All the works they do, they do to be seen by men, for they broaden the scripture-containing cases that they wear as safeguards and lengthen the fringes of their garments.  They like the most prominent place at evening meals and the front seats in the synagogues  and the greetings in the marketplaces and to be called Rabbi by men.  But you, do not you be called Rabbi, for one is your Teacher, and all of you are brothers.  Moreover, do not call anyone your father on earth, for one is your Father, the heavenly One.  Neither be called leaders, for your Leader is one, the Christ.  But the greatest one among you must be your minister.  Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted."
 
(Matthew 23:1-12)
 
Jesus is going to humble them in time. Hopefully they repent.
 
"The GB has no clothes." Their self-exaltation as some kind of "FDS" clergy class thing is make-believe.

F. Franz puts forward some theses in his speech. Well, he says it's important to know how long it took Adam to name the animals. Then that it is important to know how much time passed from the creation of Adam to the creation of Eve. Because such information is very important in order to be able to understand when the 6000 years of human existence ends and when the last thousand years begin (from the seventh day), the 7th day on which God rests.
He says that Adam only gave names to specimens of a species, not to every animal. This means, he says, that he was able to complete the task quickly. And that the speed of that work depended on how fast God brought him animals. Imagine that.  And how quickly God could do that, he concluded from the record that God brought the animals to Noah, before the Flood, in just one week, because again, he brought only the main representatives of the animals. So, concludes F.F., Adam named the animals in a one week and found that it became difficult for him after that. So God put him to sleep and created Eve.
A really speculative interpretation.

Franz uttered some interesting nonsense and it was instructive to listen to the way in which he presented his argumentation, which is the fiction of an inquisitive mind. His mind that has fed millions of similar minds around the world with his confused application of prophecy and plain non-prophetic biblical statements with the historical experience of WTJWorg and his predecessors.
Therefore. September 5th 1975 is the turning point in which or after which, but it is a month, two, three months or a short number of years in which Armageddon will come.
He, together with other like-minded people, subjugated and fueled the anticipation that was to come immediately. He said don't get married, don't look for a good job, don't plan for children, don't plan for education, because that Day is coming quickly.
Clowns are still in charge, sadly.

Please do! I look forward to reading the rest of the book.🙂 It's nothing personal that I don't agree with you on the GB part. I love the brothers in Russia, as I love all the brothers (even the GB ones, whether anybody wants to believe me or not). And I love you too, Tom. Thank you.☺️

I skipped ahead to those chapters you mentioned, @TrueTomHarley, about "Brainwashing", "Discipline", and "Governing Body".
 
(I won't say anything more about "brainwashing" and "discipline" because I already did share my own personal experience on this thread regarding the organization and the type of "brainwashing" and "discipline" I came in contact with. You can judge for yourself if it's cult-like or not.)
 
I will comment on this selection from your book on the Governing Body...
 
(Excerpt From I Don't Know Why We Persecute Jehovah's Witnesses: Searching for the Why, Tom Harley
https://books.apple.com/us/book/i-dont-know-why-we-persecute-jehovahs-witnesses-searching/id1560211086
This material may be protected by copyright.)
 
“Governing Body
 
"The first institution of higher learning in the Western World, the Academy of Athens, was founded by Plato in 387 B.C E. Much of what is bedrock to Western civilization traces back to him. Plato recorded his concept of ideal government in which he advocated rule by “philosopher-kings.” He favored monarchy, but not hereditary monarchy. Instead, his rulers were to be selected, by already-existing rulers, on the basis of merit. This would follow a lengthy period of education designed to separate the wheat from the chaff, so lengthy as to preclude anyone under age fifty or so from consideration. Consider an excerpt from The 100, a book by Michael Hart, which undertakes to rate the one hundred most influential persons throughout history (Plato is #40): 
 
“Only those persons who show that they can apply their book learning to the real world should be admitted into the guardian class. Moreover, only those persons who clearly demonstrate that they are primarily interested in the public welfare are to become guardians. Membership in the guardian class would not appeal to all persons. The guardians are not to be wealthy. They should be permitted only a minimal amount of personal property, and no land or private homes. They are to receive a fixed (and not very large) salary and may not own either gold or silver. Members of the guardian class should not be permitted to have separate families, but are to eat together and are to have mates in common. The compensation of these philosopher-kings should not be material wealth, but rather the satisfaction of public service.”
 
"Anyone familiar with Jehovah’s Witnesses will recognize at once that these words almost exactly describe their Governing Body. Only the “mates in common” does not apply. It is too ironic—the group that, without fuss, and no doubt unknowingly, actually applies the words of the philosopher Plato is a relatively uneducated group beneath the notice of today’s thinkers—Jehovah’s Witnesses. Imagine! A standard-bearer of modern intellectuals devises a system of government that they admire but cannot reproduce and then the Governing Body stumbles along and says, “Hey, we’ll try some of that,” and implements it without sweat! One may object that Plato’s recommendation is for the government of nations, whereas Jehovah’s Witnesses are a religion. But the similarities are more striking than the differences. Worldwide, Jehovah’s Witnesses number over eight million, midway on the scale of nations, with about the same population as Switzerland. The Bible speaks of God’s people as “a great nation.” It shouts, “Open up the gates that a righteous nation may enter, one that keeps faith.” It warns religious opponents that, “the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people (translations vary about 50/50, some opting for people, others nation) that will produce its fruit.” 
 
"Scripturally, Jehovah’s Witnesses are a nation as real as any nation on the world’s roster of nations today. They better fulfill the goal of most nations in being more united. Their universal reputation of being a moral, decent, and law-abiding people is no accident, nor is it explained solely by their belief in the Bible as the source of divine instruction. It is also the result of effective administration—governing. Many groups that claim to follow the Bible are populated by members whose lifestyles belie the claim, as Sider points out in the previous chapter. Jehovah’s Witnesses are unified in a common goal and purpose. They practice what they preach. It is all a result of effective governing. They are Plato’s dream come true.”
 
 
 
It's a nice bedtime story, Tom. 
 
"Once upon a time..." "...and they lived happily ever after." 
 
I enjoy your writing style. But it's not the truth you're writing. You're writing an "ideal" or an "imagined reality". 
 
Plato was a Greek philosopher. Jesus came to get rid of the Greek philosophy influence. The very fact that you describe the current Governing Body arrangement in such terms is evidence that they are an apostasy from what is written in the Bible.
 
The first century Christians in Jerusalem were not there to make extra decrees. They were not there to judge as a judiciary or an act in an executive manner or to make legislation. That was what the elders did in ancient Israel back when they had their own government. Jesus told the Christians to be subject to the governments of the nations, not to make up a new government. The Jewish disciples thought that Jesus was going to restore the Kingdom at that time, but Jesus told them that was not the way.
 
The older brothers in the congregation in Jerusalem were to act like older brothers in a family arrangement. The only record we have of them sending a "decree" was when the other family members couldn't figure it out with the circumcision issue. That's the only time. And it was as a congregation they met, not as some board of directors for all of Christianity. The older brothers of the congregation in Jerusalem were the ones involved. It wasn't because they were the board of directors or some separate entity. They were the elders in that congregation, where it all started. The rest of the time, the letters to the congregations came from individual Christians like Paul or John who were not hanging around in Jerusalem doing so-called "Governing Body stuff".  
 
The purpose of them having that meeting about the circumcision issue was to help the family stick to Jehovah's Word. By means of His holy spirit, Jehovah helped them to see that Jesus had fulfilled the Law, so there was no need to continue parts of it. Since Noah had been under restriction from the blood and that took place prior to the Mosaic Law and since immorality had always been frowned upon, holy spirit made it clear through the scriptures that Jehovah had not changed. The apostles and other older men in Jerusalem were not making up "New Light" or new decrees. They already had that information in God's Word. They just repeated it, reiterating it for those in the other congregations who had been confused.
 
Today, the Governing Body sets itself up like a government rather than older brothers in a family. Today, the Governing Body makes up new decrees, in opposition to the example set in the first century. Today, the Governing Body acts like the Sanhedrin, an unscriptural appendage that makes commentaries on commentaries and then holds them up as equal to or higher in authority than the Word of God. 
 
The Kingdom did not start ruling in 1914. There is no godly authority backing the Governing Body to rule the way they do at present. They are not representing the Kingdom, because the Kingdom isn't even in place yet. They are making stuff up and ruling as kings now, something that Paul said was very bad. When Jesus was tempted to hold power over the kingdoms of the earth, he rejected that offer. Who do you think would be the one right now offering control over a kingdom that spans the whole earth?
 
How do you think Jesus will react when he is enthroned in the heavens? Do you really think he's going to reward these Governing Body guys who have been lying? You yourself said it in your book that they have a nation they govern now. How can they say they are "no part of the world" when they have set up a kingdom in the manner of Greek Platonic theory and begun ruling during the time Jesus said we must be "no part of the world" which means not setting up a government now in Satan's system of things? Why do you think there are so many false doctrines? Remember that movie quote "if you want to be a star in Satan's world, what do you think he will require of you?"
 
Lording it over the flock as a king now is a form of apostasy.
 
"You are all brothers."
 
What did it say in Acts 15? Who did they go to for help for the circumcision issue? To a board of directors type GB?
 
"On arriving in Jerusalem, they were kindly received by the congregation and the apostles and the elders..."
 
"Then the apostles and the elders, together with the whole congregation..."
 
The current model for FDS/GB is an unscriptural, unholy arrangement that has led to false worship and reproach on Jehovah's holy name.
 
You will see for yourself very soon how Jesus feels about those guys. Your writing style is fun, and I know you believe the things you wrote about because you've been indoctrinated by all the publications of the FDS, but Jesus doesn't approve of the way you are exalting them in that make-believe chapter, Tom. We are not supposed to be "Governing Body Witnesses". We're supposed to be Jehovah's witnesses. Praise Jehovah.

Given that you feel the way you do about the subject matter, I’ll accept this as high praise.
In the upcoming ‘Last of the Last Days: Faith in the Age of Dysfunction,’ my perennial return visit, Bernard Strawman, (who continues to make find progress! though only I can see it) mutters that our guys are more like ‘janitor/plumbers’ than ‘philosopher/kings.’ He takes colossal pride in his education.

I think you can find audio recordings online of some talks that mention 1975...
 
 
 

I grieved the holy spirit for a long time, so I understand how that part of it works.

Everything is already there in the Bible. It's just Jehovah's holy spirit makes it clear at the appropriate time. An anointed person has their heart circumcised. It's painful but it means they have to be like a kid before Jehovah. If an anointed person gets involved in false worship (like how Russell and Rutherford did with numerology and other stuff) then they are not in the light and their understanding stays dark, because they grieve the light, the holy spirit.

Everything is already there in the Bible. It's just Jehovah's holy spirit makes it clear at the appropriate time. An anointed person has their heart circumcised. It's painful but it means they have to be like a kid before Jehovah. If an anointed person gets involved in false worship (like how Russell and Rutherford did with numerology and other stuff) then they are not in the light and their understanding stays dark, because they grieve the light, the holy spirit.

I don’t know about the other Annointed in general but the Governing Body said in the February 2017 Watchtower they were neither inspired of God or infallible, so apparently they don’t get any information from God either.
( duh! )

No, I never look up people.
First, I would have to care.
I do look up screen names.
If a lizard told me his mother was a dinosaur, I would just let it pass. 
Happy delusions are good for lizards.

You know what’s the difference between “eccentric” … and “bat-crap crazy”?
3 million dollars.

(I don't have fear of man anymore.☺️)

On my birth certificate after the first adult adoption, it says my "father" was 12.

@TrueTomHarley
 
The GB has taught most of Jehovah's Witnesses to act like the Prince in the movie "Ever After", who said the following in the dialogue that takes place after the above clip...
 
 
"PRINCE: I confess, the plight of the everyday rustic bores me.
                   
 
DANIELLE: I gather you do not converse with many peasants.
 
                   
PRINCE: (chuckles) Certainly not, no! Naturally.
                   
 
DANIELLE: Excuse me, Sire, but there is nothing natural about it.
A country's character is defined by its everyday rustics, as you call them.
They are the legs you stand on. That position demands respect, not...
                   
 
PRINCE: Am I to understand that you find me arrogant?
 
 
DANIELLE: Well, you gave one man back his life...
...but did you even glance at the others?"
 
 
"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus, who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all—this is what is to be witnessed to in its own due time. For the purpose of this witness I was appointed a preacher and an apostle—I am telling the truth, I am not lying—a teacher of nations in the matter of faith and truth."
 
(1 Timothy 2:5-7)
 
"That is why the Kingdom of the heavens may be likened to a king who wanted to settle accounts with his slaves.  When he started to settle them, a man was brought in who owed him 10,000 talents.  But because he did not have the means to pay it back, his master ordered him and his wife and his children and all the things he owned to be sold and payment to be made.   So the slave fell down and did obeisance to him, saying, ‘Be patient with me, and I will pay back everything to you.’  Moved with pity at this, the master of that slave let him off and canceled his debt.  But that slave went out and found one of his fellow slaves, who owed him 100 de·narʹi·i, and grabbed him and began to choke him, saying, ‘Pay back whatever you owe.’  So his fellow slave fell down and began to beg him, saying, ‘Be patient with me, and I will pay you back.’  However, he was not willing, but he went and had him thrown into prison until he could pay back what he owed.  When his fellow slaves saw what had happened, they became greatly distressed, and they went and reported to their master all the things that had happened.  Then his master summoned him and said to him: ‘Wicked slave, I canceled all that debt for you when you pleaded with me.  Should you not also have shown mercy to your fellow slave as I showed mercy to you?’  With that his master, provoked to wrath, handed him over to the jailers until he repaid all that he owed.  My heavenly Father will also deal with you in the same way if each of you does not forgive your brother from your heart."
 
There is no "committee" that stands between you and who you choose to shun. Jesus ransom is enough to show mercy. He is the King, not the GB or a body of elders. Jesus already paid. It is not proper to treat those who have been "freed" by the King as if they are still slaves.
 
"Nevertheless, when you did not know God, you were enslaved to those who are not really gods.  But now that you have come to know God or, rather, have come to be known by God, how is it that you are turning back again to the weak and beggarly elementary things and want to slave for them over again?"
 
Whoever you obey as a slave is your master. "Slave for the master, Christ."
 
Love is the Kingly Law of the Christ.

Okay, my brother @TrueTomHarley...🙄🤪😆
 
<<makes list of excuses why to not show love...>>
 
 
 









😆

(Perhaps someday in the future you'll get to do something like this...😁)
 
 
 
 
"All things are possible with God." 🥰