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Oh! Death threats coming from a pervert. I'm not surprised to hear such foolish words from someone like you. Will you be able to cleanse yourself of what you've become when it's time for you to leave? I have a different perspective and I believe that many of you might have mental health issues, and among all, you are the worst. What else do you have, as a nob, are you going to insult my mother? This is Tom's definition of repentance, which the closed club of Jehovah's Witnesses embraces and defends with conviction. How did engineers manage to do their work before the advent of AutoCAD? The old school was much more intricate than your rudimentary education could comprehend. That's why I have had the privilege of working at prestigious institutions such as the Palo Verde Nuclear Power Plant, Diablo Canyon Power Plant, and even for NASA. So, pardon me if I say that your credentials don't quite measure up. And mind you, that's just a glimpse into my own achievements. Others may have more credentials than I do. However, none of these factors are relevant to the transformation into a deteriorating individual and the squandering of one's life. You claim to be just and repentant, yet you and your friends here advocate for outrageous ideologies. It's ironic that you expect your kind of believers to support such contradictory beliefs. Your inconsistency is truly laughable.

Who, me. No, I'm not attempting to insult you Pudgy. You're already doing a great job at it on your own. I'm just agreeing with you.

It's quite the role reversal, Pudgy. Now you're the victim instead of the villain. It seems you think just like them, and that's the issue here. When one person chooses to remain ignorant, others will often follow in their footsteps, perpetuating a cycle of ignorance.

First, the irony lies in his claim that he can design an oil refinery or a municipal water system in his mind while he can't seem to keep his head out of the toilet and mind out of the gutter. 😂 Anyone, regardless of intellect, can create something if they apply themselves. However, such endeavors may not contribute to one's spiritual growth. Here we have a situation where a person openly admits to being rude and obnoxious, and others seem to accept it. But when someone stands up for themselves against these individuals, they are not accepted. It is concerning that this kind of behavior is not only tolerated but even celebrated. Be cautious, as it seems that a ban is imminent when individuals brandish their guns. Disrespectful women who mistakenly believe they are immune to criticism simply because of their gender. They adopt the same mindset as a select group of authoritarian figures who consider themselves privileged to voice complaints and criticize the Watchtower, much like apostates. However, these same people are outraged when others dare to critique them for their deceptions, misguided perspectives and interpretations. How sad the mind works on certain people.

Just for you to understand @TrueTomHarley Accepting someone's repentance at face value, especially after they were rearrested last year for the same crime of 8 felony counts that might have been reduced to 2 as of 2020, makes the idea of repentance meaningless, particularly in James's case. What does it say about a person if they cannot prove it in a secular court? Srecko holds the Watchtower, GB, and the Elders responsible for this type of condition within the Org, according to all his distorted posts about his truth. Are you in favor of Srecko's ideology considering your desire to defend everyone?

I strongly believe that we should not be false prophets. Instead, we should extend a sincere invitation to those who are willing to repent. Where do you and he stand on that? Perhaps the one that fails to understand the new light is yourself. What truly constitutes genuine repentance when one speaks against the Watchtower organization and biblical truths? Why are you putting in so much effort to portray him as a martyr when he clearly is not one. You're persistently trying to make a sale, even though there are no interested buyers and everyone can clearly see through your deceitful act. That's what he and the liars keep insisting. How much can honest people truly accept? You are currently tailoring your performance specifically for the exclusive audience within the closed club. That is why your final comment to James exposes you and JWI as hypocrites as the Admin and Librarian, just like the Pharisees. That's not a good thing. 🤣

21 people tried to destroy you, but it only took you to achieve it. The calendar clearly exposes your deceit. As for you telling people in the closed club, that's just your word and theirs. If they accepted you as a disfellowshipped individual out of friendship, it only shows that they prefer the friendship of man over God. This situation reveals their hypocrisy more than initially apparent. Exposing them does not work in their favor. If you insist on going down with a sinking ship, why would you compel others to join you? However, I agree that even when you were a Jehovah's Witness, you were not in good standing. Some of your colleagues here are the same. Mostly the reason for such grave resistance. As for being crude, rude, and prone to rants and raves as excused by Tom, is hypocritical, especially after preaching the importance of abstaining from arguments. It's unbelievable that while hundreds have been banned by that mindset, you remain. Treating some people one way and excusing others for the same behavior makes you all unbelievable liars and narcissists. Your actions are foolish and unacceptable.

James, that's not the main focus. We will all pass away before the arrival of judgment day, unless we're around 100 years old. Your repentance is what truly matters. Appreciate your soul and learn to love it as much as God loves all of his creations. Don't let pride, anger, or hate deter you from the path of everlasting life. Make the right choice, despite the misleading guidance from your own mind.

If you truly believe that Morris's information is public like yours, Pudgy, then your friend should not have made any threats about posting public information here to ban those in his hit list. Not only would it be hypocritical, but also an utterly unconscionable deed.

Interesting answer. But it's your truth. That is indeed a crucial matter to consider. Shouldn't we aim for a world where dishonest individuals are not given a platform to spread falsehood unchecked? It seems contradictory to allow apostates and disgruntled fake witnesses on your site, only to defend them. Why do you blind yourself to their contribution to that strife that you only want to rebuke me, when I should in all honesty be rebuking you? Is that truly a superior approach? It begs the question: what happened to the core value of Colossians 3 that you often criticize as being excessively self-righteous? If being a witness bothers you to such an extent, perhaps it is time to reconsider your role and consider working for the opposing side. Why not remove the banner proclaiming it as being for Jehovah's Witnesses if you despise a witness who upholds the truth? It doesn't matter to me what might benefit you or your people here. My concern lies with the sincere witnesses who visit this unfortunate site, drawn by the welcoming Jehovah's Witness banner, only to realize that it is actually a haven of wickedness. I constantly apply 1 John 3:17 and Luke 17:3, as it serves as a reminder of the importance of generosity and compassion through God's eyes protecting your brothers soul. Unlike some, that have lost sight of the significance of Scripture. So, let apostates continue to post, and I will meet their arguments with the truth.

If you're trying to justify James Thomas Rook Jr's unacceptable behavior, then his public record will need to be cleared. James, I was just wondering why your friend, the ex-Bethelite, never tried to ban you for revealing Brother Morris' house, including its location, street address, warranty deeds, and any other information you might have had in the past here. Also, your 8/16/2020 arrest that brought you 8 felony charges is not the same as your rebooking date of 02/02/2023. The prosecutor is prepared to bring these additional charges to court as an extension of the previous ones. Your criminal record is an open book, impossible to conceal by your friend Tom, regardless of his efforts. Did you remove your book about apostates because you began defending them, and your conscience as a former Elder couldn't tolerate that hypocrisy? Are you suggesting that you shouldn't be defending God's judgment against those who are incorrigible and liars, rather than passing judgment yourself? When God brings forth a mysterious event that confuses people, there is a profound biblical explanation as to why individuals are often blinded by their own actions and behavior.

We are aware that Pudgy has been disfellowshipped for a heinous and embarrassing crime. As the puppet master of Pete, he has shown himself to be an uncivilized individual. Given this situation, it is unlikely that you will receive any civilized comments on this thread. Matthew and Srecko are also his sock puppets who criticize at every opportunity. Matthew claims to be Christian, but his unchristian behavior is evident, as they attempt to insult the Watchtower with their empty boasting. I expect nothing but more uncivilized comments from other uncivilized apostates. Those other posts and statements reveal more about their mental illness than anything else. It appears to me that Pete is posing the right question to the mirror and receiving the wrong answer in return. Who are the real false witnesses here besides themselves? Therefore, in the fight between good and evil, they demonstrate to be on the losing end against God while embracing their father, Satan. What's even sadder is this fake news outlet.

I would say, until something is confirmed, it can't be considered new light out of gossip.

Just to be clear JWI, TOM, Librarian, that sick individual @Miracle Pete It's unacceptable that someone would use such offensive language on your forum, violating your bylaws. It's even more outrageous that the individual is allowed to continue while you consider banning me for simply speaking the truth. I just wanted to point out your hypocrisy here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nob#:~:text=Derogatory term for a man's,in the UK and Ireland Derogatory term for a man's penis, typically used as an insult in the UK and Ireland Your mentally ill @Miracle Pete, and I hope you're not a witness, just a sadistic animal.

From an individual who seems unapologetically self-absorbed, I must inform you that your perspective carries little significance. Therefore, feel free to express yourself vehemently and indulge in immature behavior. Keep in mind that God is aware of your intricate malicious intentions. Remember, the consequences are a result of your own actions, leaving no one else to hold accountable but you.

I agree @Miracle Pete You and @Pudgy, are a nob. However, you have the potential to become even more, as unrepentant fools have the ability to do and say anything.

Since this list is mostly false and contrived. What distinguishes present spiritual leaders from those in the past, when Jesus is the head of the congregation? Do you imply that Jesus made a mistake by trusting others, including the apostles, with that responsibility? Have you ever truly comprehended scripture, or do you simply enjoy improvising your own interpretations? Also, I don't know who feeds you that nonsense about the GB overriding other members. If the source is a weak Bethelite from the writing department, then he is mistaken. No one overrides anyone. In the absence of the Holy Spirit, the Governing Body patiently seeks complete harmony, eagerly awaiting the divine guidance that will unite them with a single purpose. Similar to the events of the past, it is important to note that the Holy Spirit was not received by all the apostles simultaneously. They performed various tasks united by a single cause. To glorify God. The apostles were bestowed with the extraordinary power to perform miracles by God, leading them to comprehend the indomitable force of God through Christ. Now we have the Bible, but it works in the same manner. How does Scripture offer guidance on dealing with the absence of the Holy Spirit among the apostles? Experience the profound teachings of the book of Mark. That goes for Elders. The Holy Spirit's gift from God manifests in various ways in people. The only rule here is the person's acceptance by God. If someone who has received the Holy Spirit commits sacrilege due to their bad behavior, they will be unable to comprehend the mysteries of scripture, as Satan has blinded them, leading them towards evil intentions. This means that these individuals will begin to interpret scripture according to their own misconceptions. Where on earth did you acquire such a profound ability to misinterpret scripture to such an extreme extent?

Not at all, you twist the narrative as usual. God is the ultimate judge, so a rational person doesn't have to search for hidden meanings. However, scripture teaches that the responsibility of decision-making lies with responsible individuals, just as Jesus entrusted that responsibility to the apostles, who in turn delegated it to the Elders and successors thereafter. The lack of spiritual maturity from former members is futile. Hence, it is the scripture that ultimately decides who deserves assistance once they have demonstrated remorse. When hardcore apostates persist in their harmful ways, there is also a biblical perspective that sheds light on this phenomenon. Who does God entrust to take action as his earthly representatives? You lack the credibility or justification to believe that God hears apostates or those who disrespect his sovereignty by using his name. How is that a contradiction if God knows every movement in thought? Apostates don't hide who they are. You're a vocal apostate and blasphemer, how are you hiding your actions? Make sense. God knows those who conceal their true intentions and pretend to be righteous witnesses. However, they also expose their façade of dishonesty. It's not invisible here. Their reluctance to show themselves at a gathering is a sign of cowardice, but God sees through that facade even if humanity cannot. They are not deceiving God, but rather themselves, and that is the crucial distinction you are overlooking. If people are attentive to the actions and behavior of others, the observer, entrusted by God to take earthly action through scripture, should rely solely on that understanding. The instructions from the Governing Body do not have to be comprehensible to apostates; rather, they should serve to validate the beliefs of genuine witnesses and expose any imposters.

Hey Self! 🤣I came across this interesting conspiracy theory. There are scholars who firmly believe in the authenticity of those artifacts. I value having conversations with myself. The suggestion of a mentally ill person has led to the most obscure manifestation of a group of sorrowful individuals. 😁

Your opinion, Pete, holds no significance for me, as you are speaking as a sock puppet for either Tom or James. If you believe that ignorance on the part of one person represents the mindset of thousands, then it's futile for you to make a foolish argument when trying to generalize about a group of people, given the fact you generate aliases to defend your indefensible behavior. Feel free to criticize and form your own thoughts. It's not surprising that your opinion, much like Pudge's old sock puppet that became known as "pimple head," was obnoxious, just like you, Pete. If you believe you are superior, you have already lost.

James, instead of twisting my words. I simply stated that you were accused and arrested for a despicable crime, regardless of whether those charges were or will be dismissed. Your arrest record, that is a public record, will forever cast a shadow over your life. The consequences of those felony charges are permanent, leaving an indelible mark. Once again, you insist that I share those charges, which I am more than willing to provide, in order to expose you as an inconsistent liar. When it comes to these types of issues, you lack credibility and should be the last person people should seek advice from. Therefore, inform your friend and defender JWI that it's you demanding your personal information to be publicly disclosed here before he proceeds with any further threats by your insistence. Remember, your sorted history cannot be erased, nor the arrest or those felony charges included therein. IT'S YOU DEMANDING IT! If anything, JWI should be reprimanding you for insisting that your sorted history be posted at your whim, and he should warn you that demanding it may result in your ban, instead of him defending the indefensible.

The authority to judge lies with God, not the GB. While God has the ability to see into the hearts and minds of people, the Governing Body lacks this capability. Repentance can be found in the genuine willingness of an individual to demonstrate it through their actions and behavior. Nevertheless, there is no assurance, as the human heart is capable of deceit. This depends on who is making the observation. If this mindset originates from an apostate perspective, it is futile. Apostasy is the conscious denial of something valuable, a value that profoundly reflects on God. Believing that one's former religion holds no value to God renders apostasy meaningless. The crucial point here is true worship, not false religion. This is a sad commentary that actually reflects poorly on you. Nevertheless, true worship is highly esteemed by God and will ultimately lead to rewards. Who are you to judge God as a blasphemer of God's Holy Spirit? That's what you need to ask yourself.

Wow! Can you believe that person? They have the audacity to use such offensive language as "bad forum etiquette" when they engage in slanderous behavior, completely disregarding proper forum etiquette. Not only that, but they have the nerve to insult and degrade the Watchtower in their post, clearly violating their own set of rules. It's as if they're saying that we are the only ones allowed to have bad manners and that no one can dare to challenge us. We are the ones in control here, not the visitor. In that case, perhaps it's time to shut down this forum, since it seems like it's becoming an open platform for disrespectful behavior from apostates and Jehovah's Witnesses, or at least that's what these people here call themselves, lol!

Well, this depends on how you view repentance. Why would anyone want to associate with such a negative person who is a hardcore apostate with evil intentions and no chance of redemption? Indeed, there is no thesis involved, only the application of common sense. God's people need to understand the scheme of things, but apostates do not.

I'm not bothered by being singled out, as you seem to be accustomed to defending and protecting yourselves, but it's a good idea to keep your dog on a leash. Speaking of which, in a different thread, TTH mentioned that it would be great if everyone here shared their life stories. As both of you are the librarians here, I kindly ask you to minimize any signs of intimidation or insincerity. It is you people who need to be "banned" here. It is quite evident that you hold a negative influence, which God recognizes, therefore you are banned from your own conscience in His eyes. Can you tell me about Allen Smith and why you added that person? Were you responsible for ejecting that individual from the forum, as a biased hypocrite? Do not pretend to be sympathetic when you are aware that God sees your actions and behavior, JWI So, when I get kicked out, delete all my posts, Tom, JWI.