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Dwayne Reed got a reaction from Melinda Mills in What Does the Bible Really Teach?
Actually, Hebrews 13:8 says, "Jesus is the same yesterday today and forever."
That has another to do with whether he had a beginning or not.
Jesus did not become the way to salvation until he actually the paid ransom with his blood and presented it to his Father. Then those chosen for life in heaven were baptized in holy spirit.
No one ascended before Jesus.