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Willie Rogers
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Oh no. I have the videos, but I won't just distribute them without Branch approval.
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3 minutes ago, TrueTomHarley said:
Why would you assume that everyone here is? We must be 'social network smart.'
"Toto, something tells me that we're not in Kansas anymore" is the yeartext here.
Not an assumption. It was just to those whose conscience has been trained. I know that this is an open website. No, this isn't Kansas, and thank Jehovah that the year text is NOT here!
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4 hours ago, tromboneck said:
Great! That is why the disclaimer is not there. Thank you for that.
I told you my standing in my congregation even though it is presumptuous of you to ask. You are on a website that displays these things. You should ask the originator of this website why those things that you find so disturbing are on here.
Now why were you out of the organization? Your turn Mr self-righteous
What? What do you think that big white panel is? It's the DISCLAIMER! And I am far from self righteous. I was out of the organization because I lost control of my conscience. I was out because I excused questionable behavior (MINE!), and became calloused to the right hearted attitude that I should have developed with the Christian personality. I was out because I did wrong things and considered them to be "inconsequential".
1 Timothy 4:1, 2 However, the inspired word clearly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired statements and teachings of demons, 2 by means of the hypocrisy of men who speak lies, whose conscience is seared as with a branding iron.
1 Timothy 6:2-5 Keep on teaching these things and giving these exhortations. 3 If any man teaches another doctrine and does not agree with the wholesome instruction, which is from our Lord Jesus Christ, nor with the teaching that is in harmony with godly devotion, 4 he is puffed up with pride and does not understand anything. He is obsessed with arguments and debates about words. These things give rise to envy, strife, slander, wicked suspicions, 5 constant disputes about minor matters by men who are corrupted in mind and deprived of the truth, thinking that godly devotion is a means of gain.
And with that, I am ending this discussion.
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It doesn't matter. "But reject empty speeches that violate what is holy, for they will lead to more and more ungodliness"..., I will take the Apostle's advice. Thank you for your interesting dialogue.
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Mr. tromboneck, again, sir, what is your standing in your congregation? There is another gentleman on this site, Jay Witness, that I would ask that question of. You can consider it rhetorical, or you can just ignore it altogether, but I think something is amiss here, if your conscience doesn't do anything to you anbout the unethical proliferation of our confidential material. If you have no issue with having the Elder's book online, or the entire library of talks for this year's convention, WITHOUT THE APPROVAL OF THE BRANCH, then you really do need to examine WHO you are as a Christian.
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10 minutes ago, tromboneck said:
Maybe you're right. "Weak conscience"..., really. I tried again, after I replied before, and the disclaimer on my primary was gone. So, I went to my laptop that I use for work, went to the website, jw.org, and went to publications; clicked on convention releases and, VOILLA!
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Brother, that disclaimer is there. I have the material downloaded, as I have attended the convention, but it still asks the same question: "Have you attended the Convention". Yeah, it's still there. And what I asked was, if you agreed with the talks being posted online. There are far too many people, far too liberal, with the material that should not be viewed by just anyone. Not that there are secrets, but there are things that should be confidential. The Elders book for instance. That's online for download. Do you think the Branch is OK with that? "All things are lawful, but not all things are advantageous". (1 Corinthians 10:23) There are lines, that due to integrity, we should not cross.
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Another thought, brother, for the "Friends" who simply can't make the convention: The BOE decides if they would be eligible to get the streaming link, and they can view the entire convention. Then, they can access, with a clear conscience, all of the releases, subsequent to that convention series. You see, Jehovah is so loving, that he look after the "lowly ones", and sees to their needs. But those who don't want to go to their assigned venue, and it is that group that my concerns were for. Sorry you couldn't understand that.
I looked at a post above, and someone has posted the manuscripts for the talks at the convention. Do you, also, agree with that?
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15 hours ago, tromboneck said:
I am a 50 yr. veteran of the spiritual warfare that God's anointed son's are assigned to fight against this system of things and our own and other's imperfections. I am awaiting the "final sealing" or "marking" of the ones who actually serve in the spiritual "courtyard of priests" and the "Holy compartment" of God's great spiritual temple on this earth.
You imply that those who may, for one reason or the other, must attend a convention that their congregation is not assigned to are breaking their integrity to Jehovah and are not loving or obedient Christians, That is simply not true. With these brothers in mind you refer to them as "Friends" which implies that they are not such. But they are, if we are friends to them.
You refer to your brothers as selfish and you place a very clear line between them and "those of us who are faithful to our Promise" which of course, includes you. There are much more important issues ahead for all of us than the ones you complain of.
Work hard to put on the new personality which includes compassion and forgiveness. You would do well to lighten up on being so judgmental, as well.
After you have been around for a little bit longer you will understand what I am saying. The answer to your audacious question, which is also haughty and prideful, is that not only am I in good standing in my congregation and have been so for the last 47 years. But the truly important thing is my standing with my Loving Father in heaven, Jehovah and His only-begotten Son, Jesus Christ! I suggest that you make every effort to work on your relationship with Jehovah by first loving his children here on earth.
You sound very young and have somewhat of an elevated opinion of yourself, "Bragging Rights" sounds to fit you well. However, bragging is for the self-assuming and NOT for any of us.
If you are mentally inclined otherwise, pray that Jehovah will reveal the above attitude to you.
Well, 09/22/1962. That's my baptism date. So, 55 years ago, I symbolized my dedication. I am a full time servant, and am proud to try my best to promote obedience among my "Friends". Brother, I am not haughty. I am experienced in the worse way. I made the "little" mistakes of choosing what to obey, and what was "inconsequential". That led me to a place where I "longed to be filled with the carob pods that the swine were eating". That's a place I want ALL of my "Friends" to NEVER see. I would never assert any "Bragging Rights" brother. I know better.
I asked you about your standing because I went to your other posts, and you are asking for BOE letters, from anonymous individuals on the internet. If your standing is what you assert, you should be able to go to an Elder in your congregation, ask for the letter you want, and get it. Why didn't you do that?
I don't judge anyone, Brother. Doing so only reserves a harsher judgement for myself. My pain at the mistakes of my "Friends" is a sign of the love that I have for them. I see what could be something that they might need to address in their personalities. Because of "the rafter" in my eye, I don't try to remove the straw from theirs. But I also don't consider disobedience, in any form, to be inconsequential. Your assertion: "You imply that those who may, for one reason or the other, must attend a convention that their congregation is not assigned to are breaking their integrity to Jehovah and are not loving or obedient Christians", is mistaken too. They may have "disobeyed", but I wouldn't brand them as "disobedient". Your perusing the internet in search of documents that are sensitive, and not open to being passed around anonymously is of far greater concern. And your service, your years of service, notwithstanding, hold you to a much higher standard. The judgement of this is not mine to make. It's yours.
"I suggest that you make every effort to work on your relationship with Jehovah by first loving his children here on earth." I truly appreciate that admonition brother, and I hope that you would look at things from a different lens, and you, too, make every effort to work on those little things, those inconsequential things. Please don't stumble because of what I say. Please, in your prayers, make those with issues like mine, a matter of concern. We would appreciate it.
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"Even a child is known by his actions, whether his behavior is pure and right.
— Prov. 20:11."Consequences.....
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And yes, we all look forward to serving Jehovah in the absence of evil and wickedness. But remember, Ezekiel was told to start his marking work at the "sanctuary".
Brother, what is your standing in your congregation? There are troubling overtones to your apathetic reasoning about disobedience.
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"in inconsequential matters"! Brother, That is almost blasphemy! How can you feel that following direction is "inconsequential"? Actions have "consequences"..., ALL actions do. You say that like we can say of Eve, "well, it was just a piece of fruit". That same "inconsequential" attitude caused King Saul his relationship with Jehovah. It was also the leading factor in Ananias' thievery.
Brother, there is NOTHING inconsequential about disobedience.
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14 minutes ago, tromboneck said:
I hope you get to feeling better real soon.
Tom
Yeah, me too.....
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On 6/30/2017 at 1:20 PM, tromboneck said:
I would like to read the letter that was read at our Wednesday night meeting on June 26. Is it available ?
Thanks Tom
Tom, the announcement AT the convention itself, asks those with integrity to NOT spoil the convention for those who have not attended yet. The loving thing would be to be obedient. That's not what we do, as humans. They also asks us to attend the convention to which you are assigned. But it is so disheartening to hear the excuses we hear from the "Friends" who disobey that request because they "can't wait" until their convention. It is sad to know that some of our Brothers and Sisters are so selfish that NOTHING else matters to them. And for those of us who are faithful to our Promise, and don't try to blur the line of demarcation, and take the risk of making the convention uncomfortable for those who are assigned. It's heartbreaking to know that we can't obey, even the simplest commands, and that the Inspired Words on 1 John 5:3, 4, "For this is what the love of God means, that we observe his commandments; and yet his commandments are not burdensome, 4 because everyone who has been born from God conquers the world. And this is the conquest that has conquered the world, our faith", are really to no avail to them. It is really heartbreaking.
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You know, the conscience is an amazing thing. The second greatest gift the Jehovah gave humans is free will. You have the freedom to obey, or to NOT obey. You people say, if the official site didn't put them up, there would be no way to access them. And you're right. Except that, there is a disclaimer that requires free will, honesty. You're asked if you have attended a convention, and you're given two choice: Yes; No. Your answer gives a pretty good indication of what kind of person you are. If you say no, you cannot access the releases. If you say yes, but you are lying, you can access the releases. But for what? You've already shown your character. You are a liar. Is that what anybody really wants to be? Really?
You know, there is another example of the character examination where honesty, and integrity; loyalty, and faithfulness, was on display. At the beginning of human history, Satan challenged Jehovah's right to make decisions for the things that HE created. He was called a liar by one of those creations. Then he was abandoned by two more. Yes, Adam and Eve, and Satan, all once served Jehovah. But when He asked them to be obedient under the simplest tests of faith, they all failed. They all selfishly used their free will to satisfy their own selfish longing. When the Branch designed the disclaimer, they knew that some would be dishonest, but their integrity would not allow them to deny all of us the opportunity to demonstrate that we are of the highest character and integrity. The "high road", versus the "low road". Those of you who defend the lying, and cheating, and in effect, the stealing of things to which, you are not entitled, demonstrate who you are. Have a great life!
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Bro. Houston, I assume, there is a specific instruction given at the outset of every session that no video, or recording, of any portion of the meeting, shall be made, except, for your own PERSONAL VIEWING. If you are a "brother", and have attended any assembly, or convention, then you have heard this announcement. If you have, then you know that the love that is of most importance is the love we show for Jehovah. In that same love, there is a link that the Elders have, that they can distribute to any whom THEY deem in good standing. Have you requested that link from your Elders? If not, I suggest that you, or whomever you are advocating for, contact the BOE and request that link. And "brother", I suggest that you consider: "However, brothers, concerning the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we ask you 2 not to be quickly shaken from your reason nor to be alarmed either by an inspired statement or by a spoken message or by a letter appearing to be from us, to the effect that the day of Jehovah is here. 3 Let no one lead you astray in any way, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction. 4 He stands in opposition and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he sits down in the temple of God, publicly showing himself to be a god." (2Thessalonains 2:1-4). There is a need have approval. The apostasy is something that we must guard against. I pray that my conversations with any on this site are not with "the apostasy". There are too many suggestions that are opposite what I know to be Branch instructions.
I hope you're able to find what it is that you need.