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    shizhanee laaleeli reacted to JW Insider in My Weekend at the Watchtower Society's HQ: Warwick and Walkill   
    Every time I go to Chipotle's they have an announcement that something is no longer being served. The guacamole for a while, then last week when they put up a sign saying they would not be serving lettuce in their burritos/bowls until further notice . . .
    . . . and now I heard that they've pulled pork again.
    Oh wait, scratch that . . . [JWI holds an earpiece a little tighter to his ear]. . . I'm just now being told that "pulled pork" is an actual thing. Who knew? So, actually, it's an announcement: Chipotle's: they have "pulled pork" again!
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    shizhanee laaleeli reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in My Weekend at the Watchtower Society's HQ: Warwick and Walkill   
    I scratched that, and it made my left foot jump up and down!
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    shizhanee laaleeli reacted to JW Insider in My Weekend at the Watchtower Society's HQ: Warwick and Walkill   
    I posted about this just after getting off the phone with someone I knew, but had just recontacted earlier today. The conversation went to a lot of places that I won't go into much more detail about here.  As an engineer, he was involved in cleaning up a shale mine (for gravel), buried barrels of waste at Wallkill, suing the previous owners of "International Nickel" at Warwick for remediation (they owned the land prior), an endangered species, air contamination reports, etc. (Actually it was air contamination laws that pushed the printing from Brooklyn to Wallkill in the first place. Wallkill had none.) I even learned that run-off from a cemetery (i.e. launching pad) from old embalming methods can contain arsenic, and other bad stuff. 
    But the brother wanted to make it clear that these were not "scandals" as some might try to make them out to be. The WTS was actually more careful than most corporations about keeping well within the law, and some of the old practices are under different laws today. Whenever a new project is being done, it's a chance to get the owners to fix things according to new law and new knowledge.
    One reason I had met up with him earlier today is that on Friday, when flushing the toilets in the first floor men's room at Warwick, all the water was brown in all the toilets, even after flushing them. I took a video in case it was a problem, and can post it, but I won't for obvious reasons. I went to the sink and stopped it up with a napkin to fill it and see if it was also affected. It wasn't. I went to a urinal and it was, although less obvious due to shallower running water. Others saw it to, but I doubted anyone would speak up. I ran down to the first lower floor men's room to check it but it was closed. I filled up a cup from the drinking fountain and saw no sign of contamination.
    Today, I went back and checked both bathrooms. No problem anywhere. I asked the engineer what it probably was, and he told me. Nothing to worry about, by the way.
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    shizhanee laaleeli reacted to Evacuated in My Weekend at the Watchtower Society's HQ: Warwick and Walkill   
    Fascinating stuff. These are the issues behind the scenes that most of us know nothing about. Any chance of a more comprehensive review?
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    shizhanee laaleeli reacted to JW Insider in My Weekend at the Watchtower Society's HQ: Warwick and Walkill   
    Sorry, won't be to your satisfaction. We'll miss you!
    So I just talked to someone who worked in the four major NY locations: Brooklyn, Patterson, Wallkill and Warwick. There were water problems with all 4. Patterson was the worst and they had to retrofit the pipes because of the mineral deposits. It was easily predictable according to the engineers, but the expensive outside engineers were quickly replaced with Bethel insiders. There were runoff problems up in Wallkill and no one can pump water from the aquifer there anyway, so they decided on a reservoir instead of the local Wallkill River. In so doing they discovered new problems for engineers to handle (some self-made over the years). The problems in Warwick were resolved after clean-up of the nickel and related minerals, but the lake water is considered very sensitive for several environmental reasons. Much of the planning had to do with level of water usage, where water comes from for fire dept utilization, what goes into the lake, what comes out of the lake.
    All in all, it was the water. Warwick deals with the Sterling Lake and the Sterling Forest State Park and therefore extends their coverage for Water and environmental issues down into the Greenwood Lake and Sterling Forest Lake where the JW HQ sits. They are already connected by a stream between them, too.
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    shizhanee laaleeli reacted to JW Insider in My Weekend at the Watchtower Society's HQ: Warwick and Walkill   
    I suspect it has more to do with the water issues that Warwick had dealt with in the lakes that begin in their region and spill down toward the WTS HQ. But I can look into it. I now have a contact who worked on these issues with Warwick and Tuxedo Park.
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    shizhanee laaleeli reacted to JW Insider in My Weekend at the Watchtower Society's HQ: Warwick and Walkill   
    Planning Board too. Nevertheless, even the early articles about it say this: https://shar.es/aaYQ1i
    The Watch Tower Society also is providing some on site medical services and have made arrangements with the Greenwood Lake Fire District; it is also working with the Tuxedo Fire District. If any of the Headquarters residents decide to move off site to have children, they then would pay taxes and their children would likely go to the Tuxedo school district.
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    shizhanee laaleeli reacted to JW Insider in My Weekend at the Watchtower Society's HQ: Warwick and Walkill   
    I am writing this on Sunday 12/9 at about 3:30 PM.
    On Thursday night I drove up here to Warwick with relatives. We completed the five exhibits at Warwick, spoke with some Bethelites we knew, and attended the Sunday morning meeting held in the Bethel Auditorium where the "Long Meadow" congregation meets. This is a congregation of about 180 persons, some of whom travel from up to about half-an-hour away, and many (if not most) of the members are Bethelites who live in the HQ complex on site.
    Tomorrow we'll go to Wallkill.
    The first thing you notice from setting your smartphone maps and GPS routing systems is that the Warwick Bethel is not in Warwick. It's actually all within the borders and limits of Tuxedo Park, NY. If you look at the back of the Warwick Bethel brochure you'll see that 1 Kings Drive, Tuxedo Park, NY 10987 is the actual address. 
    The name was picked, I assume, because Warwick is a town just a little farther away, in another zip code (10990), and smaller than Tuxedo Park, but with a name that sounds just a bit more Biblical. It's a name that also sounds a bit more alliterative: as in, "Watchtower at Wallkill" and "Watchtower at Warwick." Wars, Wicks, Walls, and Kills are all found in the Bible, but no Tuxedos of any stripe.
    The exhibits were very good. I'll find my previous post that discusses them and try to get it to land below this one.
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    shizhanee laaleeli reacted to JOHN BUTLER in Norway Declares War on Jehovah's Witnesses   
    @TrueTomHarley He is good at zany storytelling. 
    zany /ˈzeɪni/ adjective adjective: zany; comparative adjective: zanier; superlative adjective: zaniest 1. amusingly unconventional and idiosyncratic. "his zany humour" synonyms: eccentric, bizarre, weird, peculiar, odd, quirky, avant-garde, unconventional, off-centre, strange, outlandish, ridiculous, ludicrous; More
    Well yep you said it Tom. 
    Tom you are indeed a weird storyteller, your own words i think.
    I read that page you linked too and it's total untruth and ridiculous, ludicrous rubbish, bit I'm sure you enjoy the GB's rules of 'spiritual warfare', which in truth means telling lies. 
    You know why people are turning against the JW Org.
    Child abuse is one of the biggest issues. You know that.
    The Elders, on one hand pretending not to be a 'clergy class', then on the other hand using 'Clergy Privilege' to hide criminals within the JW Org. 
    The GB giving instructions that lies can be told to protect the JW Org and the GB, but calling it spiritual warfare. 
    The Blood Issue seeming contradictory by saying NO blood but any amount of fractions which is made from blood. 
    The Shunning problem, a rule made up by the GB and enforced by the Elders. 
    The list of genuine concerns goes on. The GB and their ranks below them, right down to the Elders, show no love or mercy, just laws and rules. Just as the religious leaders did in Jesus' time. 
    And if anyone dare, like me, find fault in the JW Org or the top 'brass', the GB, then we are branded Apostates.
    Well I for one am proud to be an Apostate to a religion that enjoys telling lies, makes up rules from nothing, misuses scriptures, changes meaning of scriptures  when it suits them, hides pedophiles within it, misuses the law of the land to suit their own purposes, and then asks for money to cover all the expencies / fines when the courts finally catch up wit them. 
    Remember this Tom, an Apostate turns against a former religion, an apostate does not turn against GOD or JESUS CHRIST. 
     
     
     
     
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    shizhanee laaleeli reacted to Jack Ryan in Norway Declares War on Jehovah's Witnesses   
    The pictures above is today's printed edition of the Norwegian newspaper Fædrelandsvennen. They have published the result of two years journalism where they have been digging deeply into the issues of PIMO life, the struggle to break free, and the consequences for mental health.
    Today they printed the first of seven articles as a result of this work, the story of "Fredrik" who is a fader, a story a lot of you will relate to. The next six articles will be in print the following days to come.
    All seven articles are now published online for subscribers. I will eventually provide translations of all articles into English here on this sub, but for now they have to stay this way. I would really appreciate if some of you would subscribe and read the articles through Google Translate. It will give you a better story, a complete layout with all the pictures and references. You can subscribe for only 1 NOK the first month, that is just a dime, 1/8 of a dollar. Just remember to unsubscribe after you register, so it doesn't keep running, you still keep your first month. If you need help subscribing, please feel free to dm me.
    This is the seven articles:
    https://www.fvn.no/nyheter/lokalt/i/zL2Q5w/-Tenk-om-jeg-mister-datteren-min
    1- The story of "Fredrik" a fader who is struggling to find his way and keep his children away from the Cult. Also talks about the mental breakdown he had while waking up.
    https://www.fvn.no/nyheter/lokalt/i/Ond27E/Psykolog--Helvete-er-slett-ikke-det-verste
    2. A psychiatrist speaking about the mental damages done to all of us because of the way JWs raise their children based on the threat of shunning. She speaks out about the impact this has on children and the way the brain works when it is pushed on this. She is "Fredrik's" healthcare professional and have followed his journey the last three years.
     
    https://www.fvn.no/nyheter/lokalt/i/e1gRb9/-Savner-en-far_-men-ikke-pappa
    3. "Rita" , a df'd woman, telling about her story, being df'd at 19, then reinstated just to be with his family even though everyone knew she didn't believe. Tells the story about how her elder dad fixed the reinstatement.
     
    https://www.fvn.no/nyheter/lokalt/i/Rx0X35/Geir-har-forlatt-Jehovas-vitner_-men-foreldrene-har-ikke-brutt-med-ham
    4. "Geir", he left as a youth before he got baptized, so he is not completely shunned. Tells the story on how this has affected his life, being an outcast from the rest of his family.
     
    https://www.fvn.no/nyheter/lokalt/i/4dwKAg/Barnevernleder-om-Jehovas-vitner--Dette-har-vi-for-lite-fokus-pa
    5. A childcare professional speaking out after reading the other stories. Says she is shocked and says that this needs more attention from professionals. Promises to take this up the system.
     
    https://www.fvn.no/nyheter/lokalt/i/L07Bxx/Hemmelig-lederhandbok-om-hvordan-medlemmer-skal-dommes
    6. A massacre of the Shepherd-book. A PhD in Theology walks through it in detail and comments on the way they micromanage the life of JW's.
     
    https://www.fvn.no/nyheter/lokalt/i/kaVLrj/Han-hjelper-tidligere-medlemmer-i-Jehovas-vitner
    7. The afterlife, an article about people who help those who have left.
    And for those who have bothered to read this post this far...."Fredrik", the dude on the front page, is me...
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