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  1. 9 hours ago, Jack Ryan said:

    I guess in 140 years …. nothing much has changed?

    I found an article in a newspaper from 1837 that linked tobacco to cancer. And this was a newspaper from Charlotte North Carolina, already one of the best known states for growing tobacco. 140 years later there were articles from "experts" that claimed that tobacco caused no definite health risks. Doctors with "big tobacco" money behind them were willing to lie about the risks of tobacco, even though evidence continued to pile up for 140 years.

    I think that's how many are going to look back on these articles. "Big oil" put money behind fake science and there were slick attempts to hide the climate risks of global warming. But even more effective has been the ability to turn the conversation away from science and exploit a political, bipartisan divide in the United States where 50 percent of people believe the other 50 percent are lying.

    There are always those who will exaggerate any event to make it seem more dramatic. So I would expect some truth and some lying from both sides. I think that even the local weatherman will always be under pressure to exaggerate the next snowstorm in my state because drama creates ratings, and might clear groceries off the shelf, or snowshovels and generators from Home Depot and Lowe's.

    But I wouldn't be fooled by the idea that plate tectonics is the cause of flooding in Florida, for example. Nor should anyone be fooled by the idea, even though it appears to be common sense, that all water will level out all over the world, so that flooding will occur evenly.  I have a friend who is a surveyor who is getting more work than ever before resurveying waterfront properties in Florida and elsewhere.

  2. 4 hours ago, Indiana said:

    Nice view... is it you @JW Insider if I may ask?

    No. I'm the one taking the picture. Those folks just wouldn't get out of the way. 😞

    An Italian brother and his wife from my congregation are back there now. He's actually from Germany and married a sister here and took her away to the mountains not far from here. But now her mother has joined them and has stayed a year already. I hope the house is big enough to include a mother in law.

  3. The Cheesy Translation:

    • Why do you call me Gouda?
    • I am the Whey!
    • No one has cheese grater than this.
    • And he said: Feta my little sheep.
    • And the goat he put on the left.
    • In my father's house there are many cottages.
    • Build your house upon the Roquefort.
  4. It is possible to correctly translate "I am Christ" as "I am anointed" but it is not the most likely meaning. The most likely meaning is that people would represent themselves a 'false christs' or 'false messiahs.' Another meaning is that people would present themselves in the name of Jesus, admitting that Jesus is the Christ, but would still mislead them.

    In either case, the Watchtower's doctrine at the time was that RUSSELL WAS ONE OF ONLY A VERY FEW CHRISTIANS WHO COULD CALL HIMSELF "THE CHRIST." Not all Christians were part of THE CHRIST, but Russell and a few others who had qualified for the "higher calling" could refer to themselves as "THE CHRIST." In Russell's view, it was not even true that all ANOINTED Christians could refer to themselves as "THE CHRIST." But it was OK for he himself and a few other Christians to do so. This doctrine was taught from the very earliest Watch Tower magazines and well into Rutherford's era. It was not officially rejected until the 1960's, although it was rarely mentioned after 1930.

    The 2/15/1927 Watchtower said, on page 53:

    "Seeing then that The Servant of Jehovah is The Christ, and that The Christ is composed of Jesus and the faithful members of his body, we find it proper to apply the term "Servant" to Jesus Christ alone or to Jesus Christ and the members of his body collectively as one; and sometimes it is applied only to the members of the body of Christ yet on earth."

    This is also found in Rutherford's "Harp of God" and other articles where he echoed Russell's explanation, as found in the 6/15/2011 Watch Tower, p.165:

    This Christ is composed of many members. . . . This Gospel age is the time in which the Messiah is prepared. The Head of the Messiah . . . is first, followed by the Apostles and then various other members of the body through the Gospel age. . . . This age will end when the full number of the "elect" shall have been found and tested. Then the body will have been completed. When The Messiah is complete, The Christ will be complete."image.png

    I recall that the key elements of this doctrine were still being taught by F W Franz during morning worship at Bethel in 1976-1982, and many of his expressions there had found their way into the Watchtower publications of the 1970's and 1980's.

    These include the doctrines that Jesus is not the mediator of the great crowd of other sheep, only the 144,000. That the mediator for the "other sheep" is, in effect, the 144,001. And the meaning, of course, is summarized in a very common teaching, as found in our publications below:

    The Bride class is just as deserving of the confidence of all people on earth as is the Bridegroom, the King Jesus Christ.image.png

    This could have just been awkward wording, but Franz was well known for dropping hints like this, where on page 32 it adds, that the 144,000 are singing about themselves when they praise the Lamb.


    Page 88 and 89 of the same book:

    Having such a royal position, they can, all together, make up a "bride" of suitable station for the Lamb, Jesus Christ, who is himself a heavenly King, seated at the right hand of Jehovah God. . . .The 144,000 sealed slaves of the living God become the "kings of the earth" . . . . . no falsehood was found in their mouths; they are without blemish." With the Lamb Jesus Christ, these followers of his who have been bought from among mankind as a firstfruits to God and to the Lamb make up a company of 144,001.

    This recalls the teaching of Russell which stated that the 144,001 were "THE CHRIST."

    There is nothing necessarily untrue about some of these statements, but they were often utilized to create the idea that "The Christ" was being represented by persons who could therefore have knowledge of the times and seasons and that such doctrines must be followed. Those who followed these anointed were supposed to have as much confidence in them as in Jesus Christ himself. This was not future confidence, but currently, while they are on earth. It does seem a bit presumptuous and haughty. Russell had taught that because he was also a member of "The Christ" just as Jesus was, that it was appropriate for him to also think of himself as "the prophet greater than Moses." (For that matter, Russell would therefore even refer to himself as a part of the "Everlasting Father and Prince of Peace" of Isaiah, referenced indirectly with the words "a paternal government" on page 368, above.)

    Since then, the term "144,001" has often been used when the context is about the greater glory of the anointed and how only by fully trusting in them now, will we, the other sheep, gain present blessings from them along with the future blessings of their kingly and priestly functions. Not necessarily wrong at all, but it should never have been tied to our confidence in predictions about how we should be so motivated by the times and seasons. 

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  5. 18 hours ago, JW Insider said:

    In the United States, I thought that "Indian Summer" was when they predict Apache fog and it's cool enough to put on Dakota.

    Speaking of clothing, I just remembered this one from school daze:

    • Question: If Mrs. Ippi loaned Miss Oori her new jersey, what would Della wear?
    • Answer: Idaho, Alaska!

    Sorry if this was completely untranslatable. So Sioux me and Iowa one.

    The "joke," if you can call it that, is that weather reporters in the United States like to say that they are predicting "a patchy fog." When I was very young I really thought they were saying "Apache fog." So I connected this to "Indian" summer. The Q & A is an old play on words using USA state names (and state names are often named after Native American ("Indian") tribes. Ute=Utah Missouri=Missouri, Delaware=Delaware

    • Q. If Mississippi loaned Missouri her New Jersey, what would Delaware?
    • A. Idaho, Alaska. (I dunno. I'll ask her.)
  6. On 9/4/2017 at 11:35 PM, Queen Esther said:

    Looking  a  little  like   *INDIAN  SUMMER* ?  I  think  so.....    I  love  these  colored  leaves :x

    In the United States, I thought that "Indian Summer" was when they predict Apache fog and it's cool enough to put on Dakota.

    Speaking of clothing, I just remembered this one from school daze:

    • Question: If Mrs. Ippi loaned Miss Oori her new jersey, what would Della wear?
    • Answer: Idaho, Alaska!
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