Unprecedented sea level rise in Sydney harbor over the last 140 years due to massive climate change! in Images 2 Posted October 6 9 hours ago, Jack Ryan said: I guess in 140 years …. nothing much has changed? I found an article in a newspaper from 1837 that linked tobacco to cancer. And this was a newspaper from Charlotte North Carolina, already one of the best known states for growing tobacco. 140 years later there were articles from "experts" that claimed that tobacco caused no definite health risks. Doctors with "big tobacco" money behind them were willing to lie about the risks of tobacco, even though evidence continued to pile up for 140 years. I think that's how many are going to look back on these articles. "Big oil" put money behind fake science and there were slick attempts to hide the climate risks of global warming. But even more effective has been the ability to turn the conversation away from science and exploit a political, bipartisan divide in the United States where 50 percent of people believe the other 50 percent are lying. There are always those who will exaggerate any event to make it seem more dramatic. So I would expect some truth and some lying from both sides. I think that even the local weatherman will always be under pressure to exaggerate the next snowstorm in my state because drama creates ratings, and might clear groceries off the shelf, or snowshovels and generators from Home Depot and Lowe's. But I wouldn't be fooled by the idea that plate tectonics is the cause of flooding in Florida, for example. Nor should anyone be fooled by the idea, even though it appears to be common sense, that all water will level out all over the world, so that flooding will occur evenly. I have a friend who is a surveyor who is getting more work than ever before resurveying waterfront properties in Florida and elsewhere.