Chioke Lin
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Would you suggest, Jesus shouldn't have been protected from Satan, and evil ones wishing to do harm to his body? -
Perhaps you can help me understand. Jesus had the meal with the apostles. Then, Judas went to betray him. After, around midnight, Jesus was arrested by the pharisees. He was taken to Herod, which refused to condemn him. He was then taken to Pilate, who refused to take the case because he was a Jew. So, Jesus could not be charged for blasphemy. During the day, Herod sent him back to Pilate to charge Jesus for sedition. Conspiring to overthrow the Roman kingdom. Pilate accepted that charge under Roman law. He had Jesus whipped, and later sentenced to death. Wasn't that all withing the same day using sunset to sunrise concept. When Jesus was crucified, that would have been the start of the following day at sunset. Isn't Sunset to the Jews around 3 o'clock, by our time?
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I'm asking everyone to have patience with my English. Maybe, I'm not using the correct words for what I mean to say. I agree, it is a grave. Does this mean, "hell" cannot be seen, when a person is tortured, like Jesus was? In Jesus case, I believe, Sheol, Hell, mean a place of protection from Satan and evil ones under the cover of a grave or burial.
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I'll accept your point that Jesus wasn't speaking with evil spirits. I think, "Sheol" would have the same effect as "hell." They are a place of protection from evil ones. Thank you for the text.
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Hello, commentator. Wouldn't that be co-linked because of the sunset and sunrise concept? Would it be any different if we use the same concept for Jesus death? When he died, it was the last part of the preparation day, evening time. That means, Jesus would have been buried sometime before midnight, or soon after midnight. So, wouldn't that indicate, he did die on the Jewish Calendar 14 of Nisan? Please forgive me. Maybe I'm not using the correct English words for my comments. Thursday/Friday-Friday/Saturday-Saturday/Sunday. Yes, I would like to see your view on the "heart of the earth" where Jesus was protected. Does this mean, he wasn't died for those 3 days?
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To me, Sheol means suspended and protected, just as Jesus was in "hell" for those 3 days. A condition. Meaning, his judgment of torture began soon after his arrest, and then he became protected after death. Protected from whom, Satan and anyone wanting to do evil with Jesus body. I agree, the 3 days and 3 nights is an idiomatic phrase. Does that mean "Jesus" was not dead for 3 days as indicated by the phrase, "heart of the earth?" Why would the bible reference, he was risen on the third day, according to Paul in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 Can it be these two debates are separate? The 3 days and nights, and the 40 hours, that are part of those 3 days.
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I see your point. Yes, the Jews start their week on Sunday under our current calendar. Yom Rishon First Day (Sunday)
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Does this mean, the ritual of purification was suspended because of Jesus? Luke 2:22
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I'm enjoying everyone's comments. With what I see, there is no right or wrong answer with this discussion of the 3 days and 3 nights with that of Christ internment time.
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Would this only apply if you started with a Christian tradition rather than what the bible indicates? I see you are using the sunrise, sunset concept. How about dusk to dawn, which is a shorter time period. If Jesus judgment started on midnight Thursday, then midnight Saturday, Sunday would complete the 3 day and night cycle. Sunday after dawn which is the start of the week, as you mention, like Monday for us and Sunday for the Jews.
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Doesn't Matthew also state the same? Shouldn't the betrayal and arrest of Jesus be the start of his judgment? Which would be included in those 3 days and nights. The start of the Jewish week which is Sunday when Mary went to check on the tomb, Jesus was no longer there. So, it's true, no one saw Jesus resurrection. Does the beginning of the week place an important time to the 3 days and night, since the night on the third day would have been completed, before dawn. I go back to my original question? Is the discussion referring to the 3 days and night, or the interment time of Christ. Aren't those two different or the same to fulfil the 3 days and night, according to the bible, not Christian tradition.
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Isn't the purification, a ritual under the law of Moses for atonement?
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I appreciate all the answers. The problem I seem to have is between, the acknowledgment of the 3 days and nights with the internment of Christ that was much less time. I can see the bible speaks correctly when it states a period of 3 days and nights by which Jesus took up his judgment, execution, and burial. It would appear, the 40 hours of internment would have no discrepancy when it is all placed together to form all those 3 days and nights.
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The calendar date for 33CE does fall on 14th of Nisan. That would make the preparation day on Friday for the Sabbath Festival. Does this mean, Jesus last supper was on Friday?
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The heart of the earth is what it would imply, time on earth. This would indicate, the time Jesus spent anguishing over his judgment and death. I guess the question is, is the bible referring to the full 3 days, or is, this discussion debating about the internment time of Christ? Jonas and Matthew are specific to the 3 days and 3 nights. This would indicate, Jesus wasn't interred the full 3 days, but in combination with his judgment, it would make those 3 days full. The day prior, which is referred to the preparation day, consist of just making ready for the Sabbath festival.
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Thank you. The discrepancy I'm referring to is with the hours that the discussion seems to be concerned with. Sorry for my bad English. Jesus last supper would have been in Yom R’vi’i. This would make it on a Wednesday night. Then morning (dawn) came, which should still be Wednesday. After dawn, or light, that should have started Yom Chamishi or Thursday. Since the bible speaks of full days and nights, then, Thursay, Friday, and Saturday would have been the full 3 days. On the first day of the week which is Sunday would have been when the Angel told Mary, Jesus wasn't in the tomb at dawn Yom Rishon. Matthew 28:1 This brings up another question. Is the bible talking about the internment of Christ, or is it referring to the complete subjection Christ was placed before, for judgment? Matthew 12:40 refers to "heart of the earth," day to day. Meaning full days.
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Can you explain, then, the discrepancy in the discussion with the bible? Jonah 1: 17 Now the LORD had appointed a great fish to swallow Jonah, and Jonah spent three days and three nights in the belly of the fish. Matthew 12: 39 Jesus replied, “A wicked and adulterous generation demands a sign, but none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. 40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
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I'm trying to understand the discussion about the 40 hours in the theory of time and prophecy. Can anyone explain why this couldn't be seen as the 40 days Jesus fasted in Matthew 4:2 to correspond to 40 hours of Jesus internment in a 3-day span?
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If I understand it correctly, there is no error with either form because of the vocalization of the letters by language. Thank you.
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Can anyone explain where the Vatican church got the “W” from? Can anyone explain how God's name sounded in song in ancient Hebrew? Where did the tetragrammaton originate from YHWH if there is no W? Yahweh Hay-Vav-Hay-Yud Yud-Hay-Vav-Hay In Hebrew. If the English name of god is wrong, can someone explain why the tetagrammaton shouldn’t? English is not my first language.
