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Do you think that if the angels were aware of Satan's intentions to deceive mankind in the Garden of Eden, they would not have raised an alarm?
From the very moment Satan made the choice to deceive Eve, he began a path of constant deception. What sets this apart from the previously asked question? It essentially boils down to the same matter.

What makes it any different to you? It's like asking if Satan, the father of all lies, is capable of telling the truth. You're looking at wording rather than action. Humanity was granted a capacity or ability by Satan, which is now resulting in a consequence. However, how can we ignore this fact in order to justify its rationality?

Do you think that if the angels were aware of Satan's intentions to deceive mankind in the Garden of Eden, they would not have raised an alarm?
From the very moment Satan made the choice to deceive Eve, he began a path of constant deception. What sets this apart from the previously asked question? It essentially boils down to the same matter.

Every intelligent creature created by God with free will is capable of telling truths and lies. What is unclear about that? Or what in that conclusion is contrary to the words of Jesus?
Perhaps, if you want a different answer, you should ask a more adequate, more accurate question.

Can Satan speak the truth? By George88
6 hours ago in Topics
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/can
can
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verb (1)
kən,
 ˈkan  
 also  ˈken;
 
 dialectal  ˈkin
past could 
kəd,
 ˈku̇d  ; present singular & plural can
Synonyms of can
auxiliary verb
1
a: be physically or mentally able to
He can lift 200 pounds.
b: know how to
She can read.
c—used to indicate possibility
Do you think he can still be alive?
Those things can happen.
—sometimes used interchangeably with may
d: be inherently able or designed to
everything that money can buy
e: be enabled by law, agreement, or custom to
Congress can declare war.
f: be permitted by conscience or feeling to
can hardly blame her
g: be made possible or probable by circumstances to
He can hardly have meant that.
h: be logically or axiologically able to
2 + 2 can also be written 3 + 1.
2
: have permission to —used interchangeably with may
You can go now if you like.
 
transitive verb
1
archaic : to be able to do, make, or accomplish
2
obsolete : KNOW, UNDERSTAND
 
Answer: YES

Pudgy, here's your golden opportunity to answer a crucial question: Can Satan actually tell the truth? Instead of deflecting as usual, I hope you'll provide a response this time.
Previously, you have made the feeble attempt of distorting Pastor Russell's words and comprehension as an excuse. However, Pastor Russell clearly posed a thought-provoking question during his illustration, which I have shared with you. Can Satan, in any capacity, ever speak the truth?
If you didn't grasp his intent, then it's important to address your misconceptions about the subject. It's evident that you have distorted the scripture to fit your own interpretation, regardless of who taught it to you.
I choose to reference Jesus' words through Apostle John 8:44, specifically the phrase "because truth is not in him." This indicates that Satan has never spoken the truth from the beginning, as scripture confirms. Do you have any evidence from scripture that demonstrates he speaks the truth without deception?
Now is the time for you to back up your words with actions and stop making embarrassing mistakes. I challenge you to answer this straightforward question without using any tricks, lies, or manipulations. Leave out any attempts to twist the truth or divert attention. Your reputation for these tactics is well-known, but I am not interested in seeing any more of your childish and insignificant remarks, especially sad cartoons that only your friends here appreciate.

I understand that you are dealing with the challenge of dementia, among others, so let's tap into the remaining brain cells to consider a fragment of intelligence.
Did Satan tell the truth to Eve according to the scripture? At first glance, it might seem so, as Adam and Eve eventually gained knowledge of good and evil. Yet, was it a lie disguised as the truth? What were the consequences of Adam and Eve gaining that knowledge? They lost their innocence to sin, thus forfeiting their eternal life for what Satan presented as the truth.
Try to understand it like this: I understand that your current state of mind might make it difficult for you to comprehend, and I don't want your friend Pete to make a fool out of himself by attempting to understand it either. However, it's crucial that you make an effort to try and comprehend it.
I am confident that when Srecko starts misrepresenting my words, as he usually does with you, I will have to deal with plenty of that.
Are you familiar with the works of C. H. Spurgeon? If not, I highly recommend looking into volume 26. It is something that Pastor Russell might have encountered during his pursuit of a deeper understanding of the Bible. Let us not forget the powerful phrase in John 8:44, which you seem to be overlooking and avoiding. Unlike you, Pastor Russell embraced reasoning in his quest for enlightenment. Perhaps you could learn from his approach.
C.H. Surgeon's comparison between good and evil, truth and lies in his discussion might have been seen by Pastor Russell in a similar understanding.
When Pastor Russell addressed the concept of "What is Truth," he possessed a profound understanding that you have misrepresented through the use of his words, exemplified by this particular illustration.

Harvest Gleaning Volume 1
"Scriptures to prove what is truth, and to meditate upon God's law to discern what is righteousness. They are indifferent, worldly, lovers of pleasure more than lovers of God; they are blinded by the god of this world and willing to be led into any schemes which minister to worldly desires and ambitions."
Watchtower April 1895 
"Simcoe, Canada, March 8.--The 16th annual convention of the Canada Holiness Association convened yesterday afternoon. The convention was opened by singing and prayer by the president, Rev. N. Burns, B.A., of Toronto. Mr. Burns in his remarks alluded to the distinctive mission of the Association, which was to teach and practice that each individual could know from God what is truth for himself, personally, independent of tradition, or even the Bible. Vice-President Dickenson and Mrs. Truax spoke
along similar lines."
Alas! how evidently the great enemy is leading God's professed people captive, some in one direction and some R1791 : page 81 in another; some blinded in one way and some in another. "When the Son of Man cometh shall he find the faith on the earth?" Only with a "remnant," as in the end of the Jewish age.
Pastor Russell's Sermon 656
The Ransom is the very center of all the New Testament teachings, the general touchstone by which we may determine what is Truth and what is not Truth in respect to every feature of the Divine Plan. The Ransom may be likened to the hub of a wheel, from which various spokes radiate in every direction to a general periphery, or circumference. In the great Plan of God for human salvation the Ransom constitutes the very central feature, and from it radiate all the doctrines which end in the fullness and completeness of that Divine Plan. Indeed, from whatever viewpoint we look at this subject, it is both beautiful and consistent.
1913 Bible Student Convention Report
The various denominations of Christendom, after fighting each other for centuries, have concluded that they all are partly wrong and partly right, and that they do not know where the Truth lies, nor what is Truth, nor what is Error. The decline in church attendance and contributions combined with the increase of church expenses, cause troubles many and grievous. The lessons of the success of Financial Trusts inspires them to form a Church Trust or "Federation of Churches." They hope thus to impress the people by a bold front. But especially they desire to impress the newspaper proprietors and the politicians for such services as they may call for. The proposition is a frothy one, representing a very few -- nearly all clerics. The people of all denominations are unenthused. In doubt on all religious problems, and hungry for the Truth, the poor sheep are confused by the actions of their clergy.
I can continue, but there's no need to further characterize you as foolish. Did Pastor Russell understand the deception within Satan's truth? Indeed, he did, and anyone thinking otherwise is ignorant of his true intentions. Misinterpreting a simple quote to distort the facts is akin to something Satan would do.
So, Pastor Russell's perspective on the article is clear: he does not advocate dismissing those who hold different beliefs, even if they are mistaken. The Watchtower example you provided in July 1879 does not hold any significance since you are misrepresenting the intention, as this website perfectly exemplifies that mindset. Apostates may be spreading falsehoods disguised as truth, but this has not deterred people from paying heed to their deceptive narratives.
Now let's see if you can understand C.H. Spurgeon's point of view.
I. DECISION.
1. It is "a decision upon the most sublime and important theme which can ever come under a man's notice. God and Satan, truth and falsehood, holiness and sin.
2. This decision, so important and weighty, should be made as early as possible. When Agesilaus came to the borders of Macedon he sent the laconic message, "As friends or as enemies?" The answer was, "We must stop awhile, and take advice." His reply was, "While you advise, we march." Wait not. Every hour renders it more likely that you will make a foolish choice.
3. This is a decision of the greatest importance, for it will influence every subsequent decision throughout life. True religion gives a tincture to everything with which the man comes in contact.
4. As to this decision there ought to be no possible difficulty. A man should decide for God, since He is his Creator, Redeemer, Preserver.
5. This decision involves but one alternative. There is no synagogue of the undecided on earth, and no purgatory of middle men in the unseen world.
II. THE AVOWAL. "Let him come unto me." "For God -- to me."
1. A coming out from amongst the idolaters. Do not conceal your religion.
2. They were to come to the leader. Follow the Lamb whithersoever He goeth.
3. Those who were to come to Moses were, of course, to come to one another. Do not birds of a feather flock together? If God has made you birds of paradise, hasten to fly like doves to your windows.
III. CONSECRATION.
1. Obey God's will
2. Serve God actively and energetically.
3. Do this at all hazards and costs.
(C. H. Spurgeon.)
 
If you cannot respond to this inquiry without stumbling and further tarnishing your already disgraceful reputation, then you truly are a lost soul who fully deserves every misfortune that has befallen you.
You expect a direct answer from me when you can't even provide one yourself; you are quite pitiful, to say the least.

It is clear that you are unable to answer the question in a biblical manner, resulting in your typical confused mindset. As expected, you resorted to your foolish rebuttal by bringing up Pastor Russell. I anticipated this, which is why I mentioned that, just like you misunderstood him, you misunderstand everything about the Bible. Your response has only proven my point. Your simplistic drawings just add more proof of how uneducated you are.
Misrepresenting Pastor Russell's intent, in light of his superior understanding of the words in John 8:44, would be both ignorant and foolish on your part.
I created a separate thread to demonstrate that it's impossible to reason with an unreasonable person who has allowed darkness into their heart and embraced Satan as their savior because they both speak the language of lies.
I'm happy to have assisted all those who have emailed me. This site is truly abysmal.
Could you attempt to respond to the question once more, but this time with the use of scripture in a manner that is less conventional and more primal, akin to the nature of an uncivilized human being?
Keep in mind that this is designed to benefit you, not your pretentious audience here or in the closed club. You are addressing a fundamental truth from your creator. Are you concerned about avoiding further embarrassment due to your lack of education and self-esteem?
Your forthcoming response will reveal the true extent of your feeble-mindedness. So go ahead, Pudgy, your apostate audience eagerly anticipates your narcissistic reply.

Pudgy, here's your golden opportunity to answer a crucial question: Can Satan actually tell the truth? Instead of deflecting as usual, I hope you'll provide a response this time.
Previously, you have made the feeble attempt of distorting Pastor Russell's words and comprehension as an excuse. However, Pastor Russell clearly posed a thought-provoking question during his illustration, which I have shared with you. Can Satan, in any capacity, ever speak the truth?
If you didn't grasp his intent, then it's important to address your misconceptions about the subject. It's evident that you have distorted the scripture to fit your own interpretation, regardless of who taught it to you.
I choose to reference Jesus' words through Apostle John 8:44, specifically the phrase "because truth is not in him." This indicates that Satan has never spoken the truth from the beginning, as scripture confirms. Do you have any evidence from scripture that demonstrates he speaks the truth without deception?
Now is the time for you to back up your words with actions and stop making embarrassing mistakes. I challenge you to answer this straightforward question without using any tricks, lies, or manipulations. Leave out any attempts to twist the truth or divert attention. Your reputation for these tactics is well-known, but I am not interested in seeing any more of your childish and insignificant remarks, especially sad cartoons that only your friends here appreciate.

@Pudgy I'll respond in a new thread. This one is a dead issue. That way you are free to continue your insults and false narratives there.

You get away with your insults, @Pudgy because you are an essential member of the original group of incorrigible individuals, not because your lies reveal the truth. Your belief is solely based on your own perception that everything you say is the absolute truth. If that's the case, then it can be argued that Satan is just as truthful as you claim to be.

Can it be the same strange hope you call someone the "D" word? Start making sense of your irrational thoughts. @Miracle Pete pudgy's puppet.

Just to be clear, you hope I’m a sadistic animal ? Strange hope. 

… the real reason I have never been banned from here is that I use established, checkable facts and biting satire  to insult ideas and bogus premeses, and the generator gets insulted.
The real reason you have been banned here many times is that you insult people, and make up and use lies to try and support your being superior to everyone here.
I consider myself a guest here.
You act like you are the boss.

Don't give it a second thought, BTK. It's all rigged here in their favor. They would rather let a lowlife stand than confront someone speaking the truth. This has always been the case in this biased right-wing news outlet.
If they prefer AlanF and his profanity-laced outbursts, why shouldn't they tolerate this lowlife individual? This is just another unfortunate association people should be accustomed to here. It won't change. I recall when someone was banned for using British slang words just to keep a disruptive female user active in this forum.
That is precisely what they desire: disenchanted witnesses, the excommunicated, and apostates expressing their perspectives against the Watchtower for their own inquiry. It's like saying, let them voice the very words that concern us, even though God is observing, which adds an ironic touch.
It resonates with their well-organized perspectives, and nothing will be altered as long as Satan maintains control over this unreliable news source.
It's highly possible that instead of the person you suspect @Pudgy, who goes by the name @Miracle Pete, it will be you who ends up getting banned. This is precisely why he is the first to react and post. What a foolish individual.

I agree @Miracle Pete You and @Pudgy, are a nob. However, you have the potential to become even more, as unrepentant fools have the ability to do and say anything. 

Just to be clear JWI, TOM, Librarian, that sick individual @Miracle Pete It's unacceptable that someone would use such offensive language on your forum, violating your bylaws. It's even more outrageous that the individual is allowed to continue while you consider banning me for simply speaking the truth.
I just wanted to point out your hypocrisy here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nob#:~:text=Derogatory term for a man's,in the UK and Ireland
Derogatory term for a man's penis, typically used as an insult in the UK and Ireland Your mentally ill @Miracle Pete, and I hope you're not a witness, just a sadistic animal.

Since this list is mostly false and contrived. What distinguishes present spiritual leaders from those in the past, when Jesus is the head of the congregation? Do you imply that Jesus made a mistake by trusting others, including the apostles, with that responsibility?
Have you ever truly comprehended scripture, or do you simply enjoy improvising your own interpretations?
Also, I don't know who feeds you that nonsense about the GB overriding other members. If the source is a weak Bethelite from the writing department, then he is mistaken. No one overrides anyone. In the absence of the Holy Spirit, the Governing Body patiently seeks complete harmony, eagerly awaiting the divine guidance that will unite them with a single purpose.  Similar to the events of the past, it is important to note that the Holy Spirit was not received by all the apostles simultaneously. They performed various tasks united by a single cause. To glorify God. The apostles were bestowed with the extraordinary power to perform miracles by God, leading them to comprehend the indomitable force of God through Christ. Now we have the Bible, but it works in the same manner. 
How does Scripture offer guidance on dealing with the absence of the Holy Spirit among the apostles? Experience the profound teachings of the book of Mark. That goes for Elders. The Holy Spirit's gift from God manifests in various ways in people. The only rule here is the person's acceptance by God. If someone who has received the Holy Spirit commits sacrilege due to their bad behavior, they will be unable to comprehend the mysteries of scripture, as Satan has blinded them, leading them towards evil intentions. This means that these individuals will begin to interpret scripture according to their own misconceptions.
Where on earth did you acquire such a profound ability to misinterpret scripture to such an extreme extent?
 

Not at all, you twist the narrative as usual. God is the ultimate judge, so a rational person doesn't have to search for hidden meanings. However, scripture teaches that the responsibility of decision-making lies with responsible individuals, just as Jesus entrusted that responsibility to the apostles, who in turn delegated it to the Elders and successors thereafter. The lack of spiritual maturity from former members is futile.
Hence, it is the scripture that ultimately decides who deserves assistance once they have demonstrated remorse. When hardcore apostates persist in their harmful ways, there is also a biblical perspective that sheds light on this phenomenon. Who does God entrust to take action as his earthly representatives?
You lack the credibility or justification to believe that God hears apostates or those who disrespect his sovereignty by using his name.
How is that a contradiction if God knows every movement in thought? Apostates don't hide who they are. You're a vocal apostate and blasphemer, how are you hiding your actions? Make sense. God knows those who conceal their true intentions and pretend to be righteous witnesses. However, they also expose their façade of dishonesty. It's not invisible here. Their reluctance to show themselves at a gathering is a sign of cowardice, but God sees through that facade even if humanity cannot. They are not deceiving God, but rather themselves, and that is the crucial distinction you are overlooking.
If people are attentive to the actions and behavior of others, the observer, entrusted by God to take earthly action through scripture, should rely solely on that understanding. The instructions from the Governing Body do not have to be comprehensible to apostates; rather, they should serve to validate the beliefs of genuine witnesses and expose any imposters.

In my perspective, when the Smithsonian Magazine covers a topic, I am inclined to trust their expertise. As for the shadows here, I see no benefit in entertaining irrational ideas from others. Let them hold onto their own beliefs. We shouldn't further enable their self-deception and misleading of the public.
 

@Pudgy Since you keep mentioning me:
While I understand that you may not have a thorough understanding of the law, I feel compelled to clarify a crucial point. Please, allow me to explain that "deferred adjudication" constitutes a felony conviction in any state. If this was indeed your sentence and there are no further actions recommended by the Grand Jury for the prosecutor to pursue, it is important for you to grasp the repercussions of your situation.
That does not mean that those charges cannot be dismissed once the court is satisfied with the probation period imposed on an individual, provided that person complies with the conditions established by the probation department without any violations.
If you are suggesting that the charges were dropped and that you didn't receive deferred adjudication or any other sentence that didn't include a reduction in charges such as a misdemeanor and the judge didn't need to accept a plea deal, then that changes things. That's a tough sell, if they had electronic proof of the charges. I don't see a Judge dismissing those charges unless that person is racist, and doesn't want to convict due to race. However, it's important to note that your arrest and felony charges will still remain on your record with one acception, it will include in charges, dismissed.
Now, if you pleaded not guilty and are waiting trial, it is crucial for you to understand that your behavior here won't do you any favors. Anything you say or do in this context can be used against you in a court of law.
Allow those with a legal background and expertise in ethical matters to make those decisions. I have no interest in your questionable history or in you personally.
Do not drag me into your dispute. I hereby declare this to be an end to my forced participation caused by Pudgy.

Hey Self! 🤣I came across this interesting conspiracy theory. There are scholars who firmly believe in the authenticity of those artifacts. I value having conversations with myself. The suggestion of a mentally ill person has led to the most obscure manifestation of a group of sorrowful individuals. 😁

Found it, thanks. You are correct.

One issue with historian Flavius Josephus is that he suggests that the Royal Captain of the (Guard) can also be regarded as General Nebuzaradan. A confusion arises from Josephus' account of the captives mentioned in Jeremiah, as he claims that they were taken from Egypt instead of Babylon.
Since Nebuchadnezzar was occupied in Rilah, he directed his generals to lay siege to Jerusalem. This could potentially account for the numerous dispatches that Nebuchadnezzar would have sent to the west, but the considerable distance to Borsippa still poses a challenge. As a result, the Babylonians managed to gain control of regions such as Aram (Syria), Ammon, and Moab. The only territories that remained were the coastal cities, where the Egyptians held sway. King Josiah decided to form an alliance with Babylon instead of being under Egyptian rule. So, that part of the territory was covered until King Josiah was defeated. 
It's interesting how they started back then in 4129, but still end up with the same conclusion with Zedekiah's Defeat 3522 607 B.C. 3419 607 B.C. even though their AM is different.
 

Wow! Can you believe that person? They have the audacity to use such offensive language as "bad forum etiquette" when they engage in slanderous behavior, completely disregarding proper forum etiquette. Not only that, but they have the nerve to insult and degrade the Watchtower in their post, clearly violating their own set of rules. It's as if they're saying that we are the only ones allowed to have bad manners and that no one can dare to challenge us. We are the ones in control here, not the visitor. In that case, perhaps it's time to shut down this forum, since it seems like it's becoming an open platform for disrespectful behavior from apostates and Jehovah's Witnesses, or at least that's what these people here call themselves, lol!