Can Satan speak the truth?

[George88]

Pudgy, here's your golden opportunity to answer a crucial question: Can Satan actually tell the truth? Instead of deflecting as usual, I hope you'll provide a response this time.

Previously, you have made the feeble attempt of distorting Pastor Russell's words and comprehension as an excuse. However, Pastor Russell clearly posed a thought-provoking question during his illustration, which I have shared with you. Can Satan, in any capacity, ever speak the truth?

If you didn't grasp his intent, then it's important to address your misconceptions about the subject. It's evident that you have distorted the scripture to fit your own interpretation, regardless of who taught it to you.

I choose to reference Jesus' words through Apostle John 8:44, specifically the phrase "because truth is not in him." This indicates that Satan has never spoken the truth from the beginning, as scripture confirms. Do you have any evidence from scripture that demonstrates he speaks the truth without deception?

Now is the time for you to back up your words with actions and stop making embarrassing mistakes. I challenge you to answer this straightforward question without using any tricks, lies, or manipulations. Leave out any attempts to twist the truth or divert attention. Your reputation for these tactics is well-known, but I am not interested in seeing any more of your childish and insignificant remarks, especially sad cartoons that only your friends here appreciate.

[Pudgy]

Pastor Russell SPECIFICALLY stated, in the very first issue of the Watchtower, in an article he himself authored that if Satan himself spoke the Truth, it was STILL the TRUTH!

I agree with that. 

He held that to be a true statement, as does every sane person with the slightest bit of common sense.

Here is a novel idea … why don’t YOU pull up a photocopy of that very first Watchtower, and post the photo YOURSELF. 

Go ahead … do it.

Then … another novel idea … READ IT.

 

[Pudgy]

I will have a photocopy ready in case you choke when challenged to produce actual REAL facts.

I agree with and endorse what Pastor Russell taught on this subject … 100% … not because it supports MY agenda, but because it exactly reflects REALITY, which is a total stranger to you.

[Pudgy]

Oh, what the hell …. you would just screw it up anyway …. 

[Pudgy]

IF you think I am kidding with that last Jedi meme, read out loud what YOU wrote, then read out loud what Pastor Russell wrote.

You have indicted and convicted yourself … with your own words.

[George88]

It is clear that you are unable to answer the question in a biblical manner, resulting in your typical confused mindset. As expected, you resorted to your foolish rebuttal by bringing up Pastor Russell. I anticipated this, which is why I mentioned that, just like you misunderstood him, you misunderstand everything about the Bible. Your response has only proven my point. Your simplistic drawings just add more proof of how uneducated you are.

Misrepresenting Pastor Russell's intent, in light of his superior understanding of the words in John 8:44, would be both ignorant and foolish on your part.

I created a separate thread to demonstrate that it's impossible to reason with an unreasonable person who has allowed darkness into their heart and embraced Satan as their savior because they both speak the language of lies.

I'm happy to have assisted all those who have emailed me. This site is truly abysmal.

Could you attempt to respond to the question once more, but this time with the use of scripture in a manner that is less conventional and more primal, akin to the nature of an uncivilized human being?

Keep in mind that this is designed to benefit you, not your pretentious audience here or in the closed club. You are addressing a fundamental truth from your creator. Are you concerned about avoiding further embarrassment due to your lack of education and self-esteem?

Your forthcoming response will reveal the true extent of your feeble-mindedness. So go ahead, Pudgy, your apostate audience eagerly anticipates your narcissistic reply.

[Pudgy]

i never asserted what you are desperately trying to get me to prove.  

That is ENTIRELY YOUR FANTASY.

You of course, can prove, easily who is the liar here with a quote from me.

…. Or … not being able to.

[Pudgy]

* choke *
* choke *

THE ONLY THING I HAVE EVER ASSERTED IS THAT I AGREE WITH THAT LAST SENTENCE SHOWN ABOVE, EXACTLY AS WRITTEN.

Everything else is a figment of your imagination.

[Pudgy]

30 minutes ago, Pudgy said:

* choke *
* choke *

THE ONLY THING I HAVE EVER ASSERTED IS THAT I AGREE WITH THAT LAST SENTENCE SHOWN ABOVE, EXACTLY AS WRITTEN.

Everything else is a figment of your imagination.

 

[Pudgy]

30 minutes ago, Pudgy said:

* choke *
* choke *

THE ONLY THING I HAVE EVER ASSERTED IS THAT I AGREE WITH THAT LAST SENTENCE SHOWN ABOVE, EXACTLY AS WRITTEN.

Everything else is a figment of your imagination.

 

[Pudgy]

… and now the tragically sad funny stuff begins again …

[George88]

I understand that you are dealing with the challenge of dementia, among others, so let's tap into the remaining brain cells to consider a fragment of intelligence.

Did Satan tell the truth to Eve according to the scripture? At first glance, it might seem so, as Adam and Eve eventually gained knowledge of good and evil. Yet, was it a lie disguised as the truth? What were the consequences of Adam and Eve gaining that knowledge? They lost their innocence to sin, thus forfeiting their eternal life for what Satan presented as the truth.

Try to understand it like this: I understand that your current state of mind might make it difficult for you to comprehend, and I don't want your friend Pete to make a fool out of himself by attempting to understand it either. However, it's crucial that you make an effort to try and comprehend it.

I am confident that when Srecko starts misrepresenting my words, as he usually does with you, I will have to deal with plenty of that.

Are you familiar with the works of C. H. Spurgeon? If not, I highly recommend looking into volume 26. It is something that Pastor Russell might have encountered during his pursuit of a deeper understanding of the Bible. Let us not forget the powerful phrase in John 8:44, which you seem to be overlooking and avoiding. Unlike you, Pastor Russell embraced reasoning in his quest for enlightenment. Perhaps you could learn from his approach.

C.H. Surgeon's comparison between good and evil, truth and lies in his discussion might have been seen by Pastor Russell in a similar understanding.

When Pastor Russell addressed the concept of "What is Truth," he possessed a profound understanding that you have misrepresented through the use of his words, exemplified by this particular illustration.

Harvest Gleaning Volume 1
"Scriptures to prove what is truth, and to meditate upon God's law to discern what is righteousness. They are indifferent, worldly, lovers of pleasure more than lovers of God; they are blinded by the god of this world and willing to be led into any schemes which minister to worldly desires and ambitions."

Watchtower April 1895 

"Simcoe, Canada, March 8.--The 16th annual convention of the Canada Holiness Association convened yesterday afternoon. The convention was opened by singing and prayer by the president, Rev. N. Burns, B.A., of Toronto. Mr. Burns in his remarks alluded to the distinctive mission of the Association, which was to teach and practice that each individual could know from God what is truth for himself, personally, independent of tradition, or even the Bible. Vice-President Dickenson and Mrs. Truax spoke
along similar lines."

Alas! how evidently the great enemy is leading God's professed people captive, some in one direction and some R1791 : page 81 in another; some blinded in one way and some in another. "When the Son of Man cometh shall he find the faith on the earth?" Only with a "remnant," as in the end of the Jewish age.

Pastor Russell's Sermon 656

The Ransom is the very center of all the New Testament teachings, the general touchstone by which we may determine what is Truth and what is not Truth in respect to every feature of the Divine Plan. The Ransom may be likened to the hub of a wheel, from which various spokes radiate in every direction to a general periphery, or circumference. In the great Plan of God for human salvation the Ransom constitutes the very central feature, and from it radiate all the doctrines which end in the fullness and completeness of that Divine Plan. Indeed, from whatever viewpoint we look at this subject, it is both beautiful and consistent.

1913 Bible Student Convention Report

The various denominations of Christendom, after fighting each other for centuries, have concluded that they all are partly wrong and partly right, and that they do not know where the Truth lies, nor what is Truth, nor what is Error. The decline in church attendance and contributions combined with the increase of church expenses, cause troubles many and grievous. The lessons of the success of Financial Trusts inspires them to form a Church Trust or "Federation of Churches." They hope thus to impress the people by a bold front. But especially they desire to impress the newspaper proprietors and the politicians for such services as they may call for. The proposition is a frothy one, representing a very few -- nearly all clerics. The people of all denominations are unenthused. In doubt on all religious problems, and hungry for the Truth, the poor sheep are confused by the actions of their clergy.

I can continue, but there's no need to further characterize you as foolish. Did Pastor Russell understand the deception within Satan's truth? Indeed, he did, and anyone thinking otherwise is ignorant of his true intentions. Misinterpreting a simple quote to distort the facts is akin to something Satan would do.

So, Pastor Russell's perspective on the article is clear: he does not advocate dismissing those who hold different beliefs, even if they are mistaken. The Watchtower example you provided in July 1879 does not hold any significance since you are misrepresenting the intention, as this website perfectly exemplifies that mindset. Apostates may be spreading falsehoods disguised as truth, but this has not deterred people from paying heed to their deceptive narratives.

Now let's see if you can understand C.H. Spurgeon's point of view.

I. DECISION.
1. It is "a decision upon the most sublime and important theme which can ever come under a man's notice. God and Satan, truth and falsehood, holiness and sin.
2. This decision, so important and weighty, should be made as early as possible. When Agesilaus came to the borders of Macedon he sent the laconic message, "As friends or as enemies?" The answer was, "We must stop awhile, and take advice." His reply was, "While you advise, we march." Wait not. Every hour renders it more likely that you will make a foolish choice.
3. This is a decision of the greatest importance, for it will influence every subsequent decision throughout life. True religion gives a tincture to everything with which the man comes in contact.
4. As to this decision there ought to be no possible difficulty. A man should decide for God, since He is his Creator, Redeemer, Preserver.
5. This decision involves but one alternative. There is no synagogue of the undecided on earth, and no purgatory of middle men in the unseen world.
II. THE AVOWAL. "Let him come unto me." "For God -- to me."
1. A coming out from amongst the idolaters. Do not conceal your religion.
2. They were to come to the leader. Follow the Lamb whithersoever He goeth.
3. Those who were to come to Moses were, of course, to come to one another. Do not birds of a feather flock together? If God has made you birds of paradise, hasten to fly like doves to your windows.
III. CONSECRATION.
1. Obey God's will
2. Serve God actively and energetically.
3. Do this at all hazards and costs.
(C. H. Spurgeon.)
 

If you cannot respond to this inquiry without stumbling and further tarnishing your already disgraceful reputation, then you truly are a lost soul who fully deserves every misfortune that has befallen you.

You expect a direct answer from me when you can't even provide one yourself; you are quite pitiful, to say the least.