Srecko Sostar

Srecko Sostar said:
To be more precise, interpretations of 'yohm' are such personal interpretations. The translation itself is not much open to discussion, as virtually all Bible translations use "day".
Quite so. The original NWT Committee was comprised mostly of gophers like Albert Schroeder who did busy-work like making cross references. A Greek name George Gangas helped a bit with the Greek translation, but he had no education, and his Greek was modern Greek, not 1st century Greek.
The only one who more or less knew what he was doing was Fred Franz, who had a year or two of Greek in college before he joined the Bible Students, but had no education at all in Hebrew. He was entirely self-taught in Hebrew. It seems that much of Franz's knowledge of Hebrew came from looking up words in Hebrew-English lexicons and looking at many Bible translations. He also elicited help from a scholarly Jew living in Brooklyn, and from at least one recognized Bible scholar (Goodspeed?) who produced his own partial Bible translation.
In 1994 I met one other actual WTS scholar who seemed competent, but of course he had nothing to do with the original New World Translation. He died about 20 years ago. He was a Romanian named John Albu, who immigrated to the U.S. around 1970, and quickly became a JW, and soon an "anointed one". He soon joined Bethel and worked on translation and chronology stuff. He told me that he was educated in Europe in Hebrew, Greek and other languages. Eventually serious health issues forced him out of Bethel, but he continued to work closely with the Writing Staff. He worked as a doorman for a hotel in Manhattan. It's fairly certain that Albu did much of the research that resulted in the infamous chapter 14 of the 1981 WTS book "Let Your Kingdom Come", written by GB member Lloyd Barry. He told me that part of the reason he became a JW was that the NWT was so fabulously accurate.
I suspect that Franz and Albu would strongly object to the new NWT. While it's far more readable in many areas, it violates Franz's dictum that the NWT should be literal to a fault, being more of a "dynamic translation" in the spirit of the New International Version. Of course, Freddie always skewed his translations in favor of pre-existing Watchtower doctrine, sometimes stretching Hebrew and Greek meanings to their limits, and occasionally past those limits.
My own opinion, for what it's worth, is that on the whole both versions of the NWT are translationally at least as accurate as the best other translations. In a handful of cases I think it's more accurate than most. They all have inaccuracies and various warts, but in different areas. Much of the criticism of the NWT comes from Christian scholars who are obligated by their religions to argue in favor of doctrines like the Trinity, and so often use really bad arguments to criticize the NWT. I think that Fred Franz was a brilliant but insane man who fell into C. T. Russell's cult at an early age and never recovered.

You are not so far away. It is Greek song. I will find lyrics
https://www.antiwarsongs.org/canzone.php?id=57444&lang=en
At the end of this site is English translation, please see.
It seems how exist Italo-Greek connections.

Very soulful music.... sounds like a great background music for an evening somewhere in Italy.
I assume it is in Italian?

Sad truth about our modern progress. 

He was a very talented artist.... and in this song he tackled a very deep problem of modern society.... even though he probably wrote it 50 years ago.
Still very true after all these years!
Sadly... the children don't play outside anymore.

Di errori ne ho fatti
ne porto i lividi
ma non ci penso più
ho preso ed ho perso
ma guardo avanti sai
dove cammini tu
di me ti diranno che sono una pazza
ma è il prezzo di essere stata sincera
E' l'amore che conta
non solo i numeri, e neanche i limiti
è una strada contorta
e non è logica, e non è comoda
Nell'attesa che hai
nell'istante in cui sai
che è l'amore che conta
non ti perdere, impara anche a dire di no
Di tempo ne ho perso
certe occasioni sai
che non ritornano
mi fa bene lo stesso
se la mia dignità
è ancora giovane
di me ti diranno che non sono ambiziosa
è il prezzo di amare senza pretesa
E' l'amore che conta
non solo i numeri, e neanche i limiti
è una strada contorta
e non è logica, e non è comoda
Nell'attesa che hai
nell'istante in cui sai
che è… 
 
 
She is a talented singer / writer....

Beautifully sung... but I don't quite understand the full meaning of the song. You?

Truly awesome!!

That has to be the best version of this song that I have ever heard. Thanks for sharing.

According to internet it is on Albanian language (Flower, flower)
 https://lyricstranslate.com/en/lule-lule-flower-flower.html-1

Beautiful voice and background music.

Is that in the Yiddish language? 
Love the music by the way.

This cover by "The Carpenters" was released in 1973 and made it to number 3 on the billboard hot 100, and number 1 on the Billboard Easy Listening.. This song is also known by the title "Sing" and was written by "Joe Raposo" for the children's TV show ""Sesame Street" hey i used to like watching that show...

What I got to do to make you love me?
What I got to do to make you care?
What do I do when lightning strikes me?
And I wake to find that you're not there?
What I got to do to make you want me?
What I got to do to be heard?
What do I say when it's all over?
Sorry seems to be the hardest word.
It's sad, so sad It's a sad, sad situation.
And it's getting more and more absurd.
It's sad, so sad
Why can't we talk it over?
Oh, it seems to me
That sorry seems to be the hardest word.
What do I do to make you want me?
What I got to do to be heard?
What do I say when it's all over?
Sorry seems to be the hardest word.
It's sad, so sad It's a sad, sad situation.
And it's getting more and more absurd.
It's sad, so sad
Why can't we talk it over?
Oh, it seems to me...
Sorry seems to be the hardest word.
Yeah.
Sorry!
What do I do to make you love me?
What I got to do to be heard?
What do I do when lightning strikes me?
What have I got to do?
What have I got to do?
When sorry seems to be the hardest word.

Rita Coolidge - Close The Window, Calm The Light 1978
Outside the rain begins and it may never end
So cry no more on the shore
A dream will take us out to sea
Forever more forever more
 
Close your eyes and dream
And you can be with me
'Neath the waves through the caves of hours
Long forgotten now
We're all alone
We're all alone
 
Close the window
Calm the light
And it will be alright
No need to bother now
Let it out
Let it all begin
Learn how to pretend
 
Once a story's told
It can't help but grow old
Roses do
Lovers too
So cast your seasons to the wind
 
And hold me dear
Oh, hold me dear
 
Close the window
Calm the light
And it will be alright
No need to bother now
Let it out
Let it all begin
All's forgotten now
We're all alone oh-oh, we're all alone
 
Close the window
Calm the light
And it will be alright
No need to bother now
Let it out
Let it all begin
 
Owe it to the wind, my love
(Instrumental)
All forgotten now
My Love

TrueTomHarley said:
Um, I was alive for 1975, 2000 and Real Soon Now. My mother was alive for them and 1941. Old Freddie Franz was alive for all of those false predictions.
You really have a bad case of pathological lying.
The prediction for 2000 was made at various times from the 1970s through 2000 itself. Real Soon Now started about 1914 and continues.
HAHAHAHAHAHA! JW rules, not the Bibles'.
Ever read Deuteronomy 18? JW leaders have always claimed to speak in God's name and have always made false predictions. Deut. 18 calls such charlatans false prophets.
How about Luke 21:7-8? That's explicit not to follow anyone who claims to speak in God's name and says about the time for "the end": "The due time has approached".
False. The language in Watchtower publications is explicit. You've obviously read the quotes, so your rationalizing comment is yet another outright lie.
Oh? So JWs are supposed to view Watchtower predictions of "the end" as in consequential?
I heard several JWs in the 1980s talking about 2000. In online forums in the late 1990s, many JW apologists threatened: "You'll get yours when 2000 rolls around!"
And today we see Arauna vaguely warning that Real Soon Now world leaders will do all manner of vile deeds. And of course, the Society itself makes this warning at every District Convention.
Not arguable at all. Following Orwellian crimestop principles, you've simply dismissed from your mind what you've read and, on some level, know very well it is what the false prophets known as JW leaders said. For example, the old Aid book and an Awake! article clearly stated Adam and Eve were born in the same year, just months apart. A late 1960s Watchtower had a big spread on 1975 and one article was titled, "Why Are You Looking Forward To 1975?" Do you need a refresher?
Well, here are a couple of refreshers:
https://critiquesonthewatchtower.org/old-articles/2006/02/part-3-statements-concerning-1918-1925.html
https://critiquesonthewatchtower.org/old-articles/2006/02/1975-new-info.html