Alithís Gnosis

2 hours ago, Judith Sweeney said:

All of this "chicken little" stuffage is a true waste of time.  WOW!  Talk about gulping down the gnat!   Where is the Love?   There should be encouraging talk for each other in these....Significant Times.

Sorry AS34/GR I didn’t mean to log in at the same time as you. My bad. I keep forgetting who’s who. I’m you, you are me. He is she, it is they, and they are them. As wrong as JWinsider is, he has a good imagination for conspiracies. LOL! People like Anna love it. Can you say secret lovers?

I couldn’t agree more. Perhaps it’s because you have about 4-5 people that make the environment here impossible to attach a righteous command by Christ of loving one another and holding the body of Christ in unity. There is no one else to blame. But we also need to keep in mind, there are plenty of opposers contributing to these contentious topics, and honest witnesses are not willing to defend their faith adequately. Therefore, who is worse and how does this affect the personal lives of those referring to themselves as True Christians. There seems to be an disconnect with the truth.

There seems to be a consensus that bigger fonts drive some kind of a point. Being outraged with distorted facts is exactly the position the public holds by those that remember or consider. Nowadays, it seldom does to the outside world. It matters to ex-witnesses the most since they plaster it throughout the internet. It matters here to keep a forgotten distorted view to promote that same agenda.

That means there is nothing different here that merits a good Christian discussion. It is simply an excuse to an end means of a negative portrayal of a failing system.

17 hours ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

My thought was that if it was said at an Assembly ... they were using LAST YEARS figures, or whatever the Assembly speaker is reported by our Kingdom Hall Speaker to have said.

If this is true, then they would be using the same information posted in JW.org. Meanwhile, the service year ends in September.

I wonder with the colorful comments, if it isn’t true, then why does Christendom “believe” in exorcism, while JW’s don’t find it a need, other than to rely upon God’s Holy Spirit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exorcism

While poltergeist might attach themselves to a physical object? The understanding is depending, if an object was used for evil purposes, such as using a car to run over 16 bicyclists, or used a gun to kill 58 people and injure 500, a home used for satanic rituals, etc. Those are the kind of secondhand objects that could tether a demonic entity.

Is it a real concept? Why would Jesus command an evil spirit from a possessed person? Luke 4:35-44

Does this mean Jesus got rid of all evil, and it's nonexistent today? 1 Peter 2 ?

James Thomas Rook

The service year has not concluded. I seriously doubt that any information within a regional convention would have the results for next year totals. This year totals are posted in JW.org

*** w18 August pp. 4-5 par. 8 Do You Have the Facts? ***

⁸ There is another danger in quickly forwarding e-mails and text messages. In some lands, our work is under restriction or outright ban. Our opposers in such lands may purposely circulate reports designed to instill fear or to cause us to distrust one another. Consider what happened in the former Soviet Union. The secret police, known as the KGB, spread rumors that various prominent brothers had betrayed Jehovah’s people. Many put confidence in such false reports, and as a result, they separated themselves from Jehovah’s organization. How sad! Thankfully, many later returned, but some never did. Their faith was shipwrecked. (1 Tim. 1:19) How can we avoid such a disastrous outcome? Refuse to circulate negative or unsubstantiated reports. Do not be naive, or gullible. Be sure you have the facts.

2 hours ago, Nana Fofana said:

The propaganda comes from “the dragon” (Satan) and “the wild beast” (Satan’s earthly political setup), creatures that we have already met up with in Revelation. What, though, is “the false prophet”? This is a newcomer in name only. Previously, we were shown a wild beast with two horns like a lamb that performed great signs before the seven-headed wild beast. This deceptive creature acted like a prophet for that wild beast. It promoted worship of the wild beast, even causing an image to be built to it. (Revelation 13:11-14) This wild beast with two horns like a lamb must be the same as “the false prophet” mentioned here. Confirming this, we read later that the false prophet, like the symbolic wild beast with two horns, “performed in front of [the seven-headed wild beast] the signs with which he misled those who received the mark of the wild beast and those who render worship to its image.”—Revelation 19:20. ["Revelation",wtbts]

If that’s the case? Then the disgusting froglike visitation, though from a different source. It consists of Satan’s “unclean inspired expressions,” clearly symbolizing propaganda designed to maneuver all human rulers, “kings,” into opposition to Jehovah God. Satan thus makes sure that they are not swayed by the pouring out of the bowls of God’s anger but are firmly on Satan’s side when “the war of the great day of God the Almighty” begins has reared its ugly head once again.

The symbolism of those that reject their own doctrine so defiantly would need to be considered. Errors expressed don’t seem practical, then...

44 minutes ago, Nana Fofana said:

1. Balfour  2. Partition  3. Embassy[?]

"peace, peace" but is no peace?

I don’t read into religious Ideologies. Since there seems to be a discussion on relevant and irrelevant times? Then it was out of curiosity that my statement was made.

It’s been 70 years since the USA officially recognized Israel as a state. I have heard, when the United Nations proclaimed peace and security, it would signal a turn for humanity. The purpose of my statement was to reflect on that. Many people believe, that invocation didn’t need to come from the UN, but an independent nation. Donald Trump affirmed the right for Israeli to hold Jerusalem as its capital. Therefore, he equivocally “stated” PEACE AND SECURITY for *all* nations to follow in his speech he made today. 1 Thessalonians 5:3

That in itself would merit consideration for those that follow bible prophecy.

47 minutes ago, JW Insider said:

Seemingly meaningless.

Its good to know we can agree...

There seems to be a preoccupation with times and dates about 1975. For those of you that consider bible prophecy? Then today plays well, *IF* Donald Trump announces to have the Capital of Israel moved from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, as indicated by the media.

That would be in agreement with those that stay on the watch. Luke 21:36

1947-2017 70 weeks

1967-2017 1 Jubilee

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/05/middleeast/trump-jerusalem-explainer-intl/index.html

http://www.bibleinfo.com/en/questions/70-week-prophecy-daniel

42 minutes ago, JW Insider said:

I have quoted too much of it, but this is the whole of the first few paragraphs. I understand your point, and I assume that you are referring to methods of trying to disrupt speech on this forum that have backfired, thus the dozens of alternate names that continue the disruption. But I also know that the person or persons behind all this recent disruption likely feel that an injustice has been done, and without taking sides on this, I understand that too.

Correct. Free speech should NOT BE CENSORED just because someone doesn’t like the outcome. Political correctness should not be part of a religious forum.

As an agnostic? Censoring everyone that opposes a view by demonstrating facts from fiction shouldn’t be used against anyone that expresses “free will”, with their opinion. I have seen enough, to see it doesn’t matter to imply rudeness if everyone here has done that in some fashion.

Simple opinions without malice have also been removed. This is an “open” forum to be expressed by all…