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You don't need to reach out to me, I'm not important. What you should do is, continue the great commission, regardless of what your personal feeling are. I cannot believe, you have a NONE JW defending the truth more so than real JWs. How can that be? Am I saying, be harsh as me? No! @Space Merchant doesn't allow for attitudes, even though he might slip once in a while with me. But, he puts his best foot forward, which is something you should all have learned long ago. (Proverbs 22:29) 29 Have you seen a man skillful at his work? He will stand before kings; He will not stand before common men.

No! I don't have that type of mission. If it takes someone 22 years to develop another person's spirituality, that person needs to reconsider their own spirituality. God's Holy Spirit enriches the soul to develop good fruits. There are dozens upon dozens of converts from the past that I know and are still around that were properly guided by the spirit, and they still produce fine fruits even in these trying times. That's the blessing of obedience. (Leviticus 26:11, 12) . . .. 12 I will walk among you and be your God, and you for your part will be my people. . . (2 Corinthians 6:16) 16 And what agreement does God’s temple have with idols? For we are a temple of a living God; just as God said: “I will reside among them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people. . .

That's where we differ, I was taught by the best Bible educated person, Fred Franz. Even so, we all have a choice to make. You can either dedicate yourself to the service of God, or you can rely on your own interpretation of scripture and fool yourself into thinking you are doing the right thing. I don't expect you to. I want to see, you dust yourself off and fight for your salvation. Ask God for mercy and forgiveness, even if you think you are talked out. Just like God, I refuse to see quitters in a race they started toward their personal salvation. I hate to think people coming here will be influenced in not accepting the righteous path of Christ. JWs are better than that. Like I said, it's not about me, it's about getting you people here back in the correct road to salvation, no matter what it takes.

You need to know someone, to know that. I convene committee's not get dictated by them. I follow God's laws. You people don't. So, don't think for one minute, I would associate myself with you fake witnesses here, much less call you brothers. Baptism meant something to me. I have yet to see any committee not understand my position against apostates. Especially those from within my institution that none of you, should be part of. But, it has never been about me. It's the falsehood and deception you people offer to the visitor. If you think there can't be someone as strong as Peter among the ranks, then you just meant one. Until you understand about "gifts" are, you will always be blind. However, I don't need to explain myself to none of you. That you don't get to know.

You wouldn't be counseled in any KH, you'd be disfellowshipped no matter how you slice it, just like that obtuse mutt, @Pudgy. That institution has no need for more apostates. There are millions already. You should join them and stop trying to be something you're not, Christian.

@Srecko Sostar I believe @Arauna, was wrongfully motived to defend her fake sister when that person wrongfully stated angels have different laws in heaven from us on earth. Like I mentioned, how does misrepresenting scripture make any sense? Then @Arauna wanted to justify her argument with the phrase free will. After, she made several more mistakes. These people definitely need to learn scripture, but they seem to think by trying to prove me wrong, they prove, they are unredacted when it comes to bible understanding. Now, I'm not saying ExJWs are any better, but they should know better. That's why I will never believe they are JWs in good standing. (Jeremiah 33:25) 25 “This is what Jehovah says: ‘Just as surely as I have established my covenant regarding the day and the night, the laws of heaven and earth,

Then Sin started with him and no one else. Adam and Eve came after. From that point, it's been his doing. There was no one before the devil to cause sin in heaven or earth.

Perhaps by your lack of knowledge. As far as scripture states, the Nephilim and the rest of humanity was destroyed except 8 people and 2 of every animal. How is your @JW Insider style of argument, make it incorrect? If you don't understand my post, it's simple, stay out of my conversation and stop being obtuse like @JW Insider provoking a meaningless argument. If you people here use half the space of desperately trying to find fault with me, and direct yourselves in proving your worth a Christians, visitors might believe you are Christian. Loyalty is something else. Bible knowledge is something you people lack. That is sad since you come from an institution that prides itself with scriptural understanding.

Then, you should have more weak moments. 😁 Why are you challenging God in what he can or can't do? How is the anointed receiving their heavenly reward, mean they can transfer to an angel then back to man? Do you understand the word transform? If you believe those that are called to heaven to support Christ as kings will come back after their task is done, then you don't understand that process. Short answer, no they won't

Are you going to squabble over a word that makes sense to others? Does the word "Destroyed" work better for you? How about, eliminated? Did I include Noah in the commentary, or did you need to see his name in my post?

Who do you believe was first to break that free will to disobedience, or do you believe there were others in the Garden?

Glad to see you possess common sense. Will, no! Angels took human form when they needed to speak directly to someone, like Abraham, Lot, etc. Genesis 18:2 Also, man cannot transform to an angel.

Does it make sense? All creation is under the same laws, since God made those commandments and laws. Satan was punished for his disobedience and free will. The legion of demons had their offspring punished by disobeying God. Those Nephilim had angelic spirit in them. That's why they were so strong. Humanity was punished for their disobedience and wickedness. A sentence that came directly from God. What part of that misrepresentation of scripture makes sense to you? What part of Matthew 6:10 doesn't register?

Your most welcome. Can you expand on this, since all of humanity was given the opportunity to be saved through Christ? Christ is the way for the anointed, other sheep and all mankind. Meaning, regardless of man or woman, Christians are to trust the word of God, not pick and chose what we like out of it, or do you think that should be allowed? While, it is a valid question, and adjusting for humor, I would say the same thing you are. 😏😅

Well, the proof of that, are in the proven facts about the Australian government and the ARC court. However, when it comes to CSA, you had an entire city in the U.K. try to hide facts about child abuse to those that were investigating certain allegations. That means, the entire city government was involved, and it was proven. I can't begin to explain the child abuse in Canada with their government run orphanages. Yet, these countries, Australia, Canada, and the United Kingdom, are the most critical against the Watchtower. That just means those countries are hypocrites when it comes to not allowing investigators to look into their enteral problems. Glad you see the truth correctly. Unfortunately, you can't force people, especially here, to see that truth. Glad to see you are welling.

Does this mean Pearl Doxsey has direct conversations with Christ, just like the Pope thinks he does with God in that little darkroom above the Vatican? Can you post proof of this? I thought ExJWs don't believe the anointed have a direct channel to heaven by inspiration. So, what you are saying, Your anointed sees Christ materialize to Pearl like he did with the apostles and Paul. Are you now saying Pearl Doxey is the 14th Apostle, like the Mormons believe Joseph Smith was?

Then you followed scripture to a certain point. You say, you have Christ as your spiritual head, even though he is the Son of Man. Can you explain this conflict? He might not have been a JW, but you acted upon scripture, that's good. It's established in scripture that a husband should honor his wife as an equal, since she is weaker than the husband. 1 Peter 3:7 Therefore, your husband did not have to be your spirit head in order to follow God's commands. Therefore, your refusal to respect those men that are in a responsible position that are led by God's Holy Spirit is contrary to what is written by God's inspired words. Thus making your stance wrong as a Christian. By the way, my belated condolences on your lose.

You have just said, what Satan told Jesus. NIV Matt 4:5-7 5 Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. 6 "If you are the Son of God," he said, "throw yourself down. For it is written: "'He will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.'" 7 Jesus answered him, "It is also written: 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test.' How, can testing God which is what you are doing, testing the spirit of those calling themselves Christians? Those pretending to be Christians are also testing God by interpreting scripture their way. And by extension the Elders are given that responsibility while the saints concentrate on the matters of that spirit. Therefore, Elders are led by the Holy Spirit. Something everyone here confuses. This can only come from a blind person. How does allowing evil the same as dispensing evil? Are you suggesting, God compelled @Pudgy to do evil?

I understand this comment is meant for @Witness. However, can you clarify your position? *** w12 10/15 p. 14 par. 8 What Kind of Spirit Do You Show? *** 8 To avoid that kind of spirit, we can remember that Jesus is pictured in the Bible as having “in his right hand seven stars.” The “stars” represent the anointed overseers and, by extension, all the overseers in the congregations. Jesus can direct the “stars” in his hand in any way he feels appropriate. (Rev. 1:16, 20) Thus, as Head of the Christian congregation, Jesus has full control of the bodies of elders. If someone on a body truly needs correction, the One who has “eyes as a fiery flame” will see to it that this is done in His own time and way. (Rev. 1:14) In the meantime, we maintain proper respect for those appointed by holy spirit, for Paul wrote: “Be obedient to those who are taking the lead among you and be submissive, for they are keeping watch over your souls as those who will render an account; that they may do this with joy and not with sighing, for this would be damaging to you.”—Heb. 13:17.

Unfortunately, that does not apply to God. NIV Luke 4:12 12 Jesus answered, "It says: 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test. So, if a lightening bolt strikes you, you only have yourself to blame. 😉 Glad you can distinguish, between good and evil. However, at what point do you believe God applied his spirit to evil? With man, knock yourself out. With God and Christ, never! Be careful, you might be smitten by God where you stand. 😬

This depends, do you consider Christ a man? Who comprises the Body of Christ alongside the saints? Which bible are you relying on? Why do you find it a need to go against Christ as a widow? You do realize Christ instructed the apostles, don't you. NIV 1 Peter 3:1-3 3 Wives, in the same way be submissive to your husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives, 2 when they see the purity and reverence of your lives.

When it comes to the legal system, governments don't recognize scripture. Therefore, it's more complex for the Watchtower, that has to deal with man's law and God's law, together. Before, the victim was advised they had every right to call the police themselves, or by any family member. That can be easily proven by the letters to the Elders. When governments started cracking down on those issues in 2013, it was a slow rollout. It wasn't until the U.N. made recommendations because of child trafficking in 2016, it took off. What people here don't seem to understand, back then, some wives or a child didn't pursue secular justice out of FEAR! The Watchtower could not force someone, but at times, they did intervene for the safety of the victims. However, there are still nations that afford the Clergy Privilege. Therefore, those institutions need to adhere to those privileges since, certain things would not be admissible in a court of law. The Watchtower, still recommends any victim to pursue legal enforcement. Explain that, not just to ExJWs but also, those that claim to be JWs.

Once again, how does his mockery of the legal system help others? It's one thing to have sympathy for the victims, but another thing when he, stirrup a hornet nest with lies. Therefore, it's not possible to praise his intent. When it comes to emotions, people need to have the right attitude when it's made toward such sensitive issues. You actually had JWs praising him without personal proof, here. He left the institution on hearsay. Yet, fools got upset when I called out @Pudgy with information the police and his State Government uses. They figured such a person is dangerous. That is just down right obtuse. One fool even praised him when he emailed the UK IICSA. These are all so-called Witnesses. Therefore, here it doesn't matter. This platform is full of deception. What good does it do the public when this platform allows for lies and deception? Once again, what benefit does this person possess? I'd say, no one here is. They allow their emotions and sympathy do the talking for them, instead of closely looking at an individual issue under a microscope. The ARC report is one of them. Those cases were in a span of 20 years. Some of those cases were women. There was limited information given to the government due to the Australian Privacy laws. Meaning, the Elders could only use information that they could use. So, if a person admitted to "Child Porn", that person would end up in that list. Why? In part, by the limitations made by that government to classify., Institutions could only categorize it one way, pedophilia. Now, what other information can make the list under the Watchtower? Depending on government regulations, some churches also included substantive information about spousal abuse, fornication, adultery, Child Neglect. Why does the government need to see that information about adultery, fornication, and masturbation? Yet, you have fools demanding the release of such information. Governments combine a wide range of issues into pedophilia. Therefore, it doesn't matter how you want to justify certain peoples, action, if no one here understands how to apply, government's laws correctly; the LAWS of the land, STAY out of those issues. If you personally see something, and you wish to get involved, call the police and do your best to keep your recollection honest. However, until that happens, 1 Thessalonians 4:11 English Standard Version 11 and to aspire to live quietly, and to mind your own affairs, and to work with your hands, as we instructed you,

Well, to Russell's credit, he wanted the churches to choose their Elders like stated in scripture. However, as you can see it was meant for a body of men, not just one. Then, just like @Space Merchant mentioned, there were churches that went rogue on him. So, contrary to popular belief, Russell didn't approve of such division. SM121 misconceptions of the Divine Word and Plan, and that the causes which originally led to Church divisions have considerably disappeared. If we can now recognize one true Gospel we may all reunite, in harmony with our Master's prayer, that "All may be one, as Thou, Father, and I are one."--John 17:21. And no! The SM is not Space Merchant, lol!😁 It's from, Pastor Russell's sermons.

Then you are the only one that does. Too many haters here to be called Christian. 😉 You just made my day, thanks! 🤭 That's why I ask for clarification to everyone that needs to. Unfortunately, people like @JW Insider, @TrueTomHarley and @Thinking have a great disdain for that. They prefer to see the visitor accept their nonsense, because certain people here do have the power to ban, even though they make false claims that they can't.