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LOL!! 😂 That's why I recommend you have your eyes checked. Now look closer, draw a line from the USA to Russia, and tell me again. Who's on the upper northern quadrant, Russia or the USA? Have I said, anyone here truly understands the Books of Daniel and Revelation? Now, I don't know about the rest of the brotherhood, but the Watchtower has gone from explaining it through complexities, to simplifying it. So, whoever doesn't get it, it's on them. If someone doesn't get it, and tries to explain it by their own conclusions, then it's sheer speculation in their part. I'll give you an example, and you can twist it anyway you wish. 11:2-20 11:2-20 A chronology of godless kings. The angel then explained Daniel's terrifying vision: Persia's day of glory would climax with a king who would challenge the rising Greek Empire (11:2). Then would come a "mighty king" whose empire would be divided and given to four kings unrelated to him (11:3-4), evidently another reference to Alexander (see 7:6; 8:5-8,21-22). 11:5-20 describes prolonged warfare between Alexander's generals Ptolemy of Egypt ("king of the south," 11:5) and Seleucus of Syria ("king of the north," 11:6). Antiochus III, a descendant of Seleucus, lost a great battle with Egypt but eventually defeated it (11:10-20). Both he and his successor oppressed Israel, the "glorious land" (11:16,20). I love this one the best. As you can see, there are notable scholars referenced. I believe even an ignorant person from the past will find this counterproductive to their false narrative when they promote "absolute" as an argument. ANTIOCHUS 2. The favorite name of the Seleucid kings, whose history with reference to Jewish affairs is contained particularly in the books of Maccabees, and is predicted with remarkable minuteness in Dan 11. The name was first borne by one of the generals of Philip, whose son SELEUCUS , by the hold of the first Ptolemy, established himself as ruler of Babylon. In the Macedonian calendar the Seleucid era began with Dios 1 (Oct. 7), 321 B.C.; in the Babylonian it began with Nisanu 1 (Apr. 3), 311 B.C. Parker and Dubberstein cautioned: "The beginnings and ends of their reigns cannot always be determined with exactitude" (Babylonian Chronology [1956], p. 20). When Ptolemy, son of Lagus, became master of Southern Syria, the line dividing Seleucus and his successors from the Ptolemies (cf. "king of the north" and "king of the south" in Dan 11) was drawn somewhat to the north of Damascus, the capital of Coele-Syria. Now dig a little deeper into your brain and figure out where is spiritual Israel? Then you are promoting NW and NE.

Before I suggest you get your eyes checked, can you explain this contradictory statement? Anyone seeing a flat map might consider Russia is in the upper north quadrant, and if they want to get technical, they might even propose NW. So, are you suggesting NE and NW as a round globe view?

Not with standing the foolishness coming from uneducated former Jehovah's Witnesses, It would be nice if current Jehovah's Witnesses didn't demonstrate the same. *** w71 4/1 p. 214 Preach God’s Kingdom with the Right Viewpoint *** In modern times, among the many examples that might be cited is that of the young American couple that had settled down in a fine home and were planning to raise a family. Then one day the husband came home and said to his wife: ‘Just what difference is there between us and the people of Christendom? We are contenting ourselves with mere token service when there is nothing to keep us from being in the full-time ministry. Let’s quit our secular jobs, sell our home and enter the full-time pioneer ministry.’ His wife gulped, for she had been looking forward to the joys of motherhood, to bearing and rearing a number of children. But she went to Jehovah in prayer and asked his help. And he did help her. So they entered the pioneer ministry and in a few years were invited to attend the Gilead missionary school. For some years now they have been very joyful serving as missionaries in a South American country. *** w67 2/1 Servants of God Full Time *** 7. (a) Why did a brother on the West Coast of the United States sell his home to enter the pioneer work? (b) What blessings have he and his wife enjoyed since then? I'm beginning to think witnesses here weren't that effective back in their prime as God's Servants.

Like a former member that lost their way, just like a tax collector or Pagan without repentance. You seem to forget, Paul was a tax collector. Yet, he repented. Now, use the apostate definition to reflect on the individual's action and behavior. Don't just focus on the word. NIV Galatians 3:19 [Because of transgressions] On account of transgressions, or with reference to them. The meaning is, that the Law was given to show the true nature of transgressions, or to show what was sin. It was not to reveal a way of justification, but it was to disclose the true nature of sin; to deter people from committing it; to declare its penalty; to convince people of it, and thus to be "ancillary" to, and preparatory to the work of redemption through the Redeemer. This is the true account of the Law of God as given to apostate man, and this use of the Law still exists. This effect of the Law is accomplished:

Now you have the same confusion coming from people that actually became JWs under a false pretext. Besides ignorant witnesses, I have explained there were also, imposters and people with pretexts. Does being specific make a difference? You would need to know how the administration was back then as compared to how it's run now. Some proofreaders missed the mark, also. When The Watchtower was referring to something beyond the 20th century, some publications were printed that suggested the 20th century. That's human error that should have been caught by people like @JW Insider when he worked there. But, here we are. This is the apostate narrative, that now includes @Pudgy. Now he can say whatever he wants, being in the same side you're in. When you had a GB member being specific not to speculate, and the Watchtower printed an article about it in 1974, do you believe the GB should have held the hands of each member to scold them? They should have been spiritually mature, not a spiritual child.

When you recite scripture, whose words are you using? I really like to know. Why do you, and why do you quote from it? Does this mean you're a "Pearlite" every time you quote her? If she misuses scripture, then what are you people worshiping and serving if not your own self-interest? Christians you're not, that's clear enough with your behavior, what's left? Mormon, Buddhist, Hindu, Islam, Magic?

You hold a mistaken view. While outsiders can be seen as ignorant to God's truth, former Jehovah's Witnesses learned that truth. Therefore, two different issues. 2 Peter 2:21 (BBE) For it would have been better for them to have had no knowledge of the way of righteousness, than to go back again from the holy law which was given to them, after having knowledge of it. Scripture also stipulated how those people should be views, as in Matthew. Wasn't a tax collector viewed with great disapproval? Remember, the context is the sins of a brother. NIV Matt 18:15-17 15 "If your brother sins against you, go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. 16 But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.' 17 If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector. Therefore, apostates need to prove themselves more worthy under God than how they started under ignorance. Only because you are weighing in with a foolish heart. That is more absurd to God.

I don't need to prove your insinuation. However, go back to 2017. You want to tell visitors here you're a lone wolf even though you follow a fake anointed Pearl Doxsey"? Clearly, more lies coming from one that professes to be Christian. The Watchtower bylaws are reflective of its constitution, the Bible. Therefore, you have a problem with what was started by one man, then later commissioned to many men. Do you ever get tired of copy/paste from Pearl's meaningless website? However, 1-3 sure looks like "bylaws" to me. Care to change your position, before I outright call you a liar again?

What kind of selective information about the 6000 years of man's existence are you referring to, that shouldn't be implied for the year 1975? For the Bible Students it was in 1872/1873, hence the beginning of the harvest age in 1874.

CHAPTER 9: THE GENERAL CONFERENCE OF 1828 How else can the Church be preserved-supposing such a case of delinquency to exist -- from a general putrefaction? For if a majority of an annual conference become heterodox in doctrine, or morally corrupt in practice, the minority cannot control them, cannot call them to an account, condemn, and expel them. And in this case, must the majority of the annual conferences, and perhaps also a respectable minority of that very annual conference, be compelled to hold these apostates from truth and righteousness in the bosom of their fellowship, to treat them in all respects as brethren beloved, and publicly to recognize them as such in their public and authorized documents? This would be a hard case indeed! an alternative to which no ecclesiastical body should be compelled to submit. Public Domain

Why would anyone want to meet with apostates to discuss your false doctrine, much less the bylaws of that institution? Who are you people to DEMAND an audience? How many companies have you heard of that allow their ex-employees in their boardroom to discuss anything about that company? This observation truly shows where your group is in reality. I suggest you tell that group of fake anointed to take a hike! From me, and stop pestering the Watchtower with your nonsense. And if I would hold you to the same standard of how you view the Watchtower articles about being suggestive and implying, Then YES! You have insinuated you are anointed. They also know about all the apostates that have written books with their false narratives. What's your point? You have just "condemned" yourself as an outright liar for telling people here for years about there is no need to gather. Oneness. I personally didn't need you to acknowledge something I knew all along, but to you see you finally admit it is something else. You mention the 8, who are the 8? If you are referring to the GB, do you honestly believe Jesus would have allowed himself to be tempted by Satan? Personally, as a Christian, I don't need to know where apostates gather, that is the most "obtuse" thought that would be in anyone's mind.

No! READ PAGE 4. Besides, @Srecko Sostar already posted this failed evidence.

This depends on how you view the word community. You might want to consider the latter on the definition you posted as evidence. https://www.virushead.net/vhrandom/2011/06/ex-jehovahs-witness-help/ People don't need to be clustered together to be part of a community. You, ExJWs, have something in common here. By definition, you're part of a community. "the condition of sharing or having certain attitudes and interests in common."

True! Research pending!

There is PDF data stored. It seems that fellow might have copied a website (WebCopy) content with database for a quick response. I would say, just visiting that site is dangerous if you don't have proper safeguards in place.

Couldn't it also be conceivable a Russian era drone that Ukraine now uses, was captured and used again by the Russians? In order to have NATO blame Ukraine.

Are you talking about the drone? Did they figure out, who it belongs to? Some news outlets are saying, that model belongs to Ukraine.

LOL!! Darn Srecko, you just made my day! 😂

No, just your focus on certain areas where words become insignificant to the entire picture. But, then again, in order to get the full atmosphere of that time, you had to be there. Words alone and articles cannot tell you everything about how an individual lived and dealt with life in the 70s, no more than they can if they tried for 1914. You call it guilt, I won't. I would call it enthusiasm to Serve God better. I guess it would be like Jesus telling the rich man to give up his wealth to serve God. Jesus told him, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow Me." Matthew 19:23 Then Jesus said to His disciples, "Truly I tell you, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. I guess, you have a "problem" with Jesus, then. Once again, no offense, I won't want you near me. 😁 There are many that have by all intentions cleared their home life obligations and have decided to make better use of their lives by continuing their service elsewhere. In the 70s, The number of Witnesses were far less than there are today. That's Satan's purpose. To slow down the preaching work or try to remove it completely.

@Space Merchant Okay, I see what you are saying. You're correct, this fake website is specifically made for spoofing. It does have an area to log in and create an account. Once that link is generated, the hacker can reverse the IP address and can install malware here. Then this site, becomes an internet highway for illicit use. Might even be Russian, since all internet communication is being disrupted by high-tech, and they need a workaround access by dummy sites. Good Catch!! Website spoofing Website spoofing – also known as URL spoofing – is when scammers make a fraudulent website resemble a legitimate one. The spoofed website will have a familiar login page, stolen logos and similar branding, and even a spoofed URL that appears correct at first glance. Hackers build these websites to steal your login details and potentially drop malware onto your computer. Often, website spoofing takes place in conjunction with email spoofing – for example, scammers might send you an email containing a link to the fake website.

That site is framed as any other E.U. Scandinavian country. Does that mean, everyone that illicit that type of PHP is spoofing? Seems to me, it's a simple data storage.

Learn the law. What you are doing is "distributing" copyright material. (LINK) You don't need to be part of the website, just promoting it will get you into that consequence. Just like everyone else will need to realize, we live in a different technological age where people need to be responsible for their own actions over the internet. This will get worse as time goes by. This Scandinavian format is no different from that British apostate that was sued by the Watchtower, and the content taken down. They think because they live in a different country, the Watchtower doesn't have reach. It does under international law, combined with American law, gives the Watchtower global reach. You have been advised.

Then this should be something you should consider for yourself, when you post.

And yet, you still agree with former Jehovah's Witnesses assessment about 1975. You're so predicable!! As a supposed JW that align themselves with false rhetoric. I believe you once mentioned the word disgusting.

Now understand the context and you will be enlightened. Your focus on words is for the birds! This just show how obtuse you are, and whomever I.M. you that page. For people like me that were actually there at that time. It was no different from a parent telling their child to go to Bethel and be part of Bethel Service or Missionary Service. Therefore, you're foolish to think that you had a breakthrough with this none evidence by this article manipulation, taken out of context. *** km 5/74 p. 3 How Are You Using Your Life? *** Yes, since the summer of 1973 there have been new peaks in pioneers every month. Now there are 20,394 regular and special pioneers in the United States, an all-time peak. That is 5,190 more than there were in February 1973! A 34-percent increase! Does that not warm our hearts? Reports are heard of brothers selling their homes and property and planning to finish out the rest of their days in this old system in the pioneer service. Certainly this is a fine way to spend the short time remaining before the wicked world’s end.—1 John 2:17. This piece of the article is alluding to people that no longer had home obligations, and they were no longer tied down by any family or business obligations in order to further their service to God as pioneers. Many of those brothers became Pioneers in OTHER lands. Even, young adults that didn't have future plans to marry would be accepted. You seem to forget, now many witnesses were around back then as compared to today? IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 1975!! In that respect. I "commended" several brothers for doing just that. Becoming pioneers or missionaries in different lands. I still know a few of them left today. I also know many couples today that met each other in pioneer and missionary service. *** km 5/74 p. 4 How Are You Using Your Life? *** So, then, ask yourself: How am I using my life? Can I make adjustments that will enable me to pioneer? If I can, will failure to do so indicate to Jehovah that I am living to satisfy personal desires, rather than to do His will? *** km 5/74 p. 4 How Are You Using Your Life? *** Also, there may open up to you the privilege of being sent as a special pioneer into territory that is not often worked. And for those pioneering, there is the possibility of the opportunity of training at Gilead School and then going on to foreign missionary service. *** km 5/74 p. 4 How Are You Using Your Life? *** There is another opportunity of service that we would also like you to consider seriously. And that is Bethel service. Most of you know something about Bethel. You need to tell your friend to do better, this one is laughable. 😁😄