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  1. Everything that man considers good, or what God considers good? "Do not love the world or anything that belongs to the world. If you love the world, you do not love the Father. 16 Everything that belongs to the world—what the sinful self desires, what people see and want, and everything in this world that people are so proud of—none of this comes from the Father; it all comes from the world. 17 The world and everything in it that people desire is passing away; but those who do the will of God live forever." 1 John 2:15-17 “Stop storing up treasures for yourselves on earth, where moths and rust destroy and thieves break in and steal. 20 Instead, store up treasures for yourselves in heaven, where moths and rust don’t destroy and thieves don’t break in and steal. 21 Your heart will be where your treasure is." Matt 6:19-21 "These people have exchanged God’s truth for a lie. So they have become ungodly and serve what is created rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen!" Rom 1:25 The early temple was approved by God as the place to worship. Since the temple is now the Body of Christ, there is no other approved earthly place of worship, according to GOD, since Christ has said we worship in spirit and truth. John 4:24 His Temple, house of "worship" is Zion, built with "living stones". 1 Pet 2:5,9 You are built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets. Christ Jesus himself is the cornerstone. 21 In him all the parts of the building fit together and grow into a holy temple in the Lord. 22 Through him you, also, are being built in the Spirit together with others into a place where God lives. Eph 2:20-22 Scripture refers to the faithful sealed anointed as "trees". Matt 7:18; Ezek 47:12; Rev 11:4; 22:2 In the organization, these "trees" and the spirit God has poured into their heart, are replaced with desires of men to build their own "temples" - housed with their own choice of priests. Dan 8:11 "What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said: “I will live with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people.” 2 Cor 6:16 “The glory of Lebanon will come to you, the juniper, the fir and the cypress together, to adorn my sanctuary; and I will glorify the place for my feet. (Isa 66:1,2; Ps 132:7-9) 14 The children of your oppressors will come bowing before you; (Rev 3:9) all who despise you will bow down at your feet and will call you the City of the Lord, Zion of the Holy One of Israel. 15 “Although you have been forsaken and hated, with no one traveling through, I will make you the everlasting pride and the joy of all generations." Isa 60:13-15 There is no difference in what the organization has done in building its empire, than any other religious entity that dedicates, consecrates buildings to God; such as the Catholic Church, or the Mormons and their temples, Islam and its mosques. Those are considered "good". In your organization, you house the "good" - the true Temple of God, which has been rejected for the same treasures the world has. Hag 1:4; Dan 7:21; 8:11,23-25; Rev 13:7,10
  2. If a building is called “God’s House” would it be considered holy? If it were truly “God’s House”, then His Spirit would dwell there and yes, it would be “holy”. If a parent tells his child at the kingdom hall that “this is God’s House”, as a JW video already explains to children, wouldn’t they learn to have a reverential awe for that building? Does God agree with these dedications and the christening of a kingdom hall /assembly hall as His House? I believe JWs cannot fathom what God would think of such a thing, even if it is a building of temporary use. It is as if God is no where to be heard, no where to give His opinion on what man do, although He certainly has through the scriptures. So let’s do it, call it dedicated to God, then sell it off! God will understand our disregarding all scriptures concerning anything built by the hands of men. Acts 7:49-51; 17:24,25 He has a “building”, He has a spiritual dwelling. 1 Pet 2:5,9; Eph 2:20-22; 1 Cor 3:16,17; John 2:19-21 He has made it clear with the advent of His Son that there is only one “temple”/”building” that He accepts as His. It was a major point of Jesus’ coming; earthly structures to house God’s Spirit were to be abolished. He is building His House on the anointed Body of Christ. 1 Cor 3:9 Why would He want any building dedicated to Him that has its source in Satan’s world? James 3:15 This is called spiritual immorality. It is practiced by false prophets – “harlots” who do exactly what they want and still claim to worship God. Rev 13:11,15; 16:13,14; 17:1,15 If JWs were to recognize the importance of God’s “building”, they would not dare dedicate any earthly building to Him. Instead, God’s temple/priesthood is trampled down by such teachings spoken from a Harlot, and supported by her “man of lawlessness”. Matt 24:48-51; 2 Thess 2:1-4; 9-12; Rev 13:1,2,4-7 So, your leaders dedicate buildings to “Jehovah”. They raise the excitement in all in attendance. It is a blessing from God! I would guess just about everyone in such an audience has no idea what the true dedicated House/Temple of God really is, thanks to the GB Harlots. What God has said about His Son and His “living stones” (1 Pet 2:5,9) apparently means nothing. Jer 4:22 And instead, JWs believe an organization and all of its buildings will lead them into the Kingdom. IT holds primary importance for one's salvation. So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?” 5 And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue for forty-two months. 6 Then he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven. 7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation. 8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If anyone has an ear, let him hear. Rev 13:4-9
  3. Luke 12:1 - In the meantime, when an innumerable multitude of people had gathered together, so that they trampled one another, He began to say to His disciples first of all, “Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy." 2 Pet 2:1-3 There were indeed false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, and will bring swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their depraved ways, and the way of truth will be maligned because of them. 3 They will exploit you in their greed with made-up stories. Their condemnation, pronounced long ago, is not idle, and their destruction does not sleep. Matt 24:24 For false messiahs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.
  4. Well, thank you for all those Watchtower quotes! There are misconceptions to address, a few in particular is that Zion is God’s “wife”. The only “wife” in Zion (God's Temple) is the Bride – the Lamb’s Wife. 1 Cor 6:17; Matt 19:6; Eph 5:23, 25-27,30; Rev 21:2,3; 5:9,10 Being as a “wife” to God is compared to a marriage promise/covenant. Hos 9:1; 1:2; Jer 3:8,14 It is not an organization in heaven. When we “eat” the flesh of Jesus Christ, (John 6:53) this is not restricted to the anointed only. It has nothing to do with partaking of the emblems. He is referring to the Word of truth that all of us must take in to receive life. John 6:55,47-50; 17:3,17 2 Tim 3:15 - and you know that from infancy you have known the sacred Scriptures, which are able to give you wisdom for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.
  5. Makes sense, except for their view of the ruling kings and priests. I believe society has surpassed their determined viewpoint. It's all about man power.
  6. Yes, you are right. The Bible is God’s Word, the Word is the Logos, the Logos is Christ. John 1:1,2 Go one step further, and listen to Christ’s teachings on how we are to “know” God. It is through Christ. He is much more than an example to imitate. He is our only personal path, to draw close to the Father. While he was still speaking, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them; and suddenly a voice came out of the cloud, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Hear Him!”Matt 17:5 How can we hear Christ if we do not listen to his words that tell us we must come to him, to know the Father? John 8:19 John 6:37 – “All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out.” And, how can we believe in someone, if we don’t get to know him? John 3:16,36 – “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.” He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.” With Jesus, We hear him We get to know him We believe in him We realize that by doing so, we will then, “know” the Father. Should we resist getting to know Christ? But look: “No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day.” John 6:44 God knows our hearts and our desires…and our fears. If we block our heart and mind from personally getting to know Christ, will we ever be drawn to him by the Father? Can men tell us NOT to get to know Christ intimately? Yes, your leaders have. 2 Cor 11:4 "He who rejects Me and does not receive My sayings, has one who judges him; the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day.” John 12:48
  7. I do not see in this Watchtower comment, the avenue we must take to know God; of which I am not surprised. Jesus is the Word, the Bread of Life. John 1:1 John 17:3 is part of the prayer of Jesus to the Father. “Father, the hour has come! Glorify Your Son, in order that Your Son may glorify You— 2 just as You have given him authority over all flesh, in order that he would give eternal life to them—everyone whom You have given him. 3 Now this is eternal life: that they know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent. 4 I have glorified You on earth bycompleting the work that you have given me to do. 5 And now, Father, You glorify me at Your side with the glory that I had at Your side before the world existed. Righteous Father, although the world does not know You, yet I have known You, and these men have come to know that You sent me. 26 And I made known to them Your name, and will make it known, in order that the love with which You loved me may be in them, and I may be in them.” The “world” that did not know Jesus Christ were his people who rejected him, the very ones who said they “knew” God. John 1:10 They had a “superficial knowledge” of Him; yet never attained the true knowledge of God, since they did not accept Jesus Christ. Then they said to Him, “Where is Your Father?” Jesus answered, “You know neither Me nor My Father. If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also.” John 8:19 To his disciples: Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. 7 “If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him.” 8 Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.” 9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works. 11 Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves.” John 14:6-11 If we do not accept the “Bread of Life” that God offers us in His Son, we will never learn to know God. We will never learn the knowledge of truth. 2 Tim 3:7
  8. "Be careful to follow every command I am giving you today, so that you may live and increase and may enter and possess the land the Lord promised on oath to your ancestors. 2 Remember how the Lord your God led you all the way in the wilderness these forty years, to humble and test you in order to know what was in your heart, whether or not you would keep his commands. 3 He humbled you, causing you to hunger and then feeding you with manna, which neither you nor your ancestors had known, to teach you that man does not live on bread alone but on every word that comes from the mouth of the Lord. Deut 8:1-3 Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty. For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.” 45 It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.’ Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from Him comes to me. 46 No one has seen the Father except the one who is from God; only he has seen the Father. 47 Very truly I tell you, the one who believes has eternal life. I am the bread of life. 49 Your ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness, yet they died. 50 But here is the bread that comes down from heaven, which anyone may eat and not die. 51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats this bread will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.” John 6: 35,40,45-51
  9. Maybe (in secret) they are interpreting it literally. It was just brought to my attention; when has anyone seen one of the “144,000” portrayed as female in WT pictures? Samuel Herd made mention once, that women’s brains are 10 percent smaller than men. Obviously, he can’t envision women ruling as “kings” and priests in the Kingdom. Gal 3:28; Rev 5:9,10
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    And, in this picture, these guys are all clones of each other.
  10. Oh my. It would be life threatening to think like the GB; to walk in their shoes, taking their twisted path of continually seeking "new light", and prominence over their spiritual brothers. Matt 24:48-51 That would be glorifying men; and you've taken it up another notch by suggesting our thinking should not only be like God, but like the GB. Simply, blasphemy. We should think like Christ. We should walk only his path. 1 Cor 2:16; 1 Pet 2:21 A voice of one calling: “In the wilderness prepare the way for the Lord; make straight in the desert a highway for our God. 4 Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the rough ground shall become level, the rugged places a plain. 5 And the glory of the Lord will be revealed, and all people will see it together. For the mouth of the Lord has spoken.” Isa 40:3-5
  11. For the true "newbies" out there: We are told to “test the spirits to see whether they are from God”. 1 John 4:1 This is our responsibility as Christians. Jesus gave us guidelines to know if an anointed one speaks from the Spirit of Christ or from another spirit. He told us that by their fruits, their teachings, we would know if one is inspired by the Spirit of Truth. Those who remain in Christ would produce fruit that “lasts”, that remains, just as the teachings of Christ have remained to this day. You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit, and that your fruit should remain, that whatever you ask the Father in My name He may give you. John 15:16 This means one’s teachings would not rot away, or be changed out for new “truth”. It’s a pretty simple guideline that we can either embrace, or blindly ignore. If we choose to ignore it and eat “fruit”/teachings from an anointed one that has a history of producing failed, “rotten” teachings, then…we make Jesus out to be a liar. Matt 7:17-19 We put more stock in what men say, than what Christ has told us. To receive “God’s instructions” would require inspiration from Holy Spirit. Yet, this is what your GB stated, and how they lean on a fabrication called “beliefs clarified” to justify their rotten fruit. The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction. In fact, the Watch Tower Publications Index includes the heading “Beliefs Clarified,” which lists adjustments in our Scriptural understanding since 1870. Of course, Jesus did not tell us that his faithful slave would produce perfect spiritual food. w17 February p. 26-27 Was God instructing your leaders in these failed doctrines? Would Christ who is Truth, produce imperfection? Ps 18:30; John 14:6 This statement certainly demeans Jesus Christ’s teachings, since he did say a faithful slave would produce perfect spiritual food that would last, as long as that one “remains” on the vine. John 15:1-4; Luke 8:15 "Don't work for the food that perishes (that needs continual adjustment) but for the food that lasts for eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you, because God the Father has set his seal of approval on him." John 6:27 So, the “opposition” would be making excuses for his failed teachings, and convincing the majority with false promises that no matter what, Jesus will give his approval. We know from scripture that this isn’t the case. “Either make the tree good and its fruit good, or else make the tree bad and its fruit bad; for a tree is known by its fruit. 34 Brood of vipers! How can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. 35 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things. 36 But I say to you that for every idle word (“inactive,useless”) men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. 37 For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.” Matt 12:33-37 Good things from the heart of an anointed one, are “good fruit”, that remains. “Evil things” are deceiving, “rotten fruit” that an “evil slave” would expect one to tolerate – with no questions asked. We choose to uphold Christ’s teachings about testing each bit of “fruit” offered us by anointed ones, or we listen to men who can have a negative influence on our spirituality by failing to provide lasting fruit/teachings. If 8 men, who have convinced you they are “faithful” and “discreet”, but are not faithful to these simple guidelines given us by Jesus Christ, then their “inspiration” is from another spirit. They have lost God’s Spirit. Matt 24:24; 2 Pet 3:17,18; 1 John 2:19 The apostles were led by Holy Spirit because they were “inspired”, and they acted upon it. Holy Spirit cannot continue to “dwell” in an anointed one’s heart and not inspire them also…to speak truth, as defined by God, and not men. 1 Cor 3:16,17; 2 Cor 6:16; 1 Thess 4:7,8; 2 Tim 1:14
  12. “This good news of the kingdom will be proclaimed in all the inhabited earth, as a testimony to all nations. And then the end will come.” Matt 24:14 What is the “good news” to be preached in the last days? Is it based on the year 1914 when the organization claims the “conclusion of this system of things” began? In a very recent magazine, 1919 is taught to be the year that a line of demarcation was established between the anointed “spirit sons of Zion” and all of Christendom. The WT leaders preach that Isa 66:8 has been fulfilled. Who has heard such a thing? Who has seen such things? Shall the earth be made to give birth in one day? Or shall a nation be born at once? For as soon as Zion was in labor, She gave birth to her children. If Zion, where the law of the Lord “will go out”, (Isa 2:2-4) has given birth to an earthly organization, and authentic peace reigns within it, (1 Thess 5:3) why does the organization find itself in the news more dramatically with each passing day, for challenging the laws of the land? Why are victims of abuse experienced within the organization’s walls, revisiting their pain suffered during their time as members of this fabricated Zion? Why is the organization being called into account for their hidden sins that those in the world notice; an organization that has the highest turnover rate of any established religion? (Matt 13:31,32) I was startled to realize that this most recent information regarding Zion, is the same magazine that states the “spirit sons”/anointed ones must obey the elder body. They must not bond together to consider God’s Word, but remain quiet and submissive; fully integrated into the congregation with no real distinction of who they are. What “law” of God permits such opinion? None! Ezekiel’s words apply today - there is no distinction or demarcation “between the holy and the common”; between God’s Temple priesthood, and the population of JWs. (Ezek 22:23-29) Who or what comprises the authentic Zion? Going back to Isaiah 66 quoted in the magazine, verse 1,2 explains that it isn’t an earthly organization with its buildings and investments, thought to bring God’s approval, but it is the “spirit sons” of God themselves, who obey His Word. This is what the Lord says: Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool. Where could you possibly build a house for Me? And where would my resting place be? My hand made all these things, and so they all came into being. This is the Lord’s declaration. I will look favorably on this kind of person: one who is humble, submissive in spirit, and trembles at My word. Isa 66:1,2 Ps 137:7-9: “Let us go to his dwelling place, let us worship at his footstool, saying, 8 ‘Arise, Lord, and come to your resting place, you and the ark of your might. 9 May your priests be clothed with your righteousness; may your faithful people sing for joy.’” 1 Pet 2:5 – “you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house[a] (“into a temple of the Spirit) to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.” “The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by human hands.25 And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything. Rather, he himself gives everyone life and breath and everything else.” 16 What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said: “I will live with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people. 2 Cor 6:16 All JWs, including the “spirit sons of God”, are encouraged to serve “Jehovah’s organization”. They believe God needs every available asset from money to physical abilities, to assist in a “preaching work” understood as God's will. My goodness, the organization boasts in operating three filming facilities, (while owning less kingdom halls) as they pump out a video per day. Is this evidence of the coming trend in the “preaching work” - the bigger the vision, the more money needed to sustain it? Matt 7:21-23 The true Zion is perceived through its “living stones” and not earthly commodities. (Phil 3:19; Col 2:8) God’s authentic “organization” – His Temple dwelling – is to have no part in Satan’s world. (1 John 5:19) “Therefore since we are God’s offspring, we should not think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone—an image made by human design and skill. 30 In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. 31 For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising him from the dead.” Acts 17:29-31 As Satan has intended, the anointed in the organization have been absorbed and lost within it, slipping into idolatry as they serve the work of man’s hands. (Luke 22:31; 2 Thess 2:9,10) (Ps 135:15; 1 Kings 9:6-9; Jer 4:1,2) Zion’s true identity has deliberately escaped your attention, JWs, as men encourage you to serve an “image” of perceived divinity. This image is housed not only in earthly treasures, but in the representation of a false priesthood of the “Gentile” elder body. (Matt 24:15; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1-3) It blasphemes the true Temple of God, found in its representatives who are the anointed priesthood. Rev 13:1,5-10,11,14,15; Dan 7:25; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22. Its presence has cut off any individual gift offerings and sacrifices God would otherwise receive from His priesthood. (Dan 11:31) The presence of a counterfeit priesthood ruling over the anointed has thrown truth “to the ground”. (Dan 8:12) Because of this circumstance, the “good news of the Kingdom” is the testimony given in the last days to the “inhabited earth” – God’s dwelling, His “inhabited earth” and owned “land”. ( Matt 24:4; John 14:23; 1 Cor 3:9) The so called "world-wide" preaching was being accomplished since the time of Christ (Luke 4:43; Col 1:6,23; Mark 16:15; Rom 10:18). It was the work of those qualified by their anointing with Holy Spirit (Acts 1:8; Eph 3:7; Col 1:5,25; 1 John 2:20,17; 1 Cor 4:1; Matt 28:16,18-20; Gal 1:11,12,15-17,20). Those to whom the final good news is to be preached, is the Israel of God (Matt 10:23;Isa 48:20; Rev 2:1,8,12,18; 3:1,7,14) which will be scattered among the nations, to the "four winds" (Ezek 39:23,28,29; Micah 5:8; Amos 9:9; Mark 13:27). The good news gathers them back together, and out of the Gentile dominion which held them captive (Micah 5:3; 4:10; Rev 12:2; 13:7,10; Luke 21:24). The "good news" in the time of the end, is that God will provide the repentant remnant redemption, by means of Christ's blood, and their own required sacrifice for the sake of truth, in imitation of their model, Christ. (Mat 25:6; Heb 13:13; Phil 3:10; 2 Cor 4:10; Rom 6:5; 1 Pet 2:21; Rev 14:4; 6:9,11; 12:10,11) The circumstances of the Great Tribulation requires defiance/warfare against the religious slavery that held them captive, and caused them to fall asleep (1 Cor 7:23; Gal 1:10; Col 3:24; 2 Cor 10:3-5; Rev 11:5; Jer 23:29; Rev 17:14). The wicked steward is presently lording it over the anointed household of God (Mar 10:42,-45), and wielding the power of Gentiles in order to beat his fellows, just as the Harlot / "false prophet", wields her power, through the Gentile Beast (Rev 17:6,3; 11:7; 13:11,15,14; 19:20). Accomplishing the final witness to God's remnant (Matt 10:23; 24:14; Isa 48:20; Rev 18:4), to the satisfaction of God's purpose, will be completely credited to God's own spirit and power (Isa 42:8; Phil 4:20; Rev 4:11) (2 Chron 16:9; John 6:65; 14:6; Heb 2:12,13; John 18:9; 17:12)... not to the power or wisdom of proud men (1 Cor 1:27; Matt 7:22; 1 Cor 4:7; Luke 17:10; Rev 19:10). (Zech 4:6,14; Jer 17:5; Ps 118:8; 1 Cor 1:27,28; 2 Cor 12:9), nor by the physical resources of this world (1 John 2:15,16; 2 Cor 5:12). Pearl Doxsey “Questions from the Beast” “The Good News – What is it? Who is it for?/1914 (“Earth”) “YHVH’s Genuine Mountain” Pearl Doxsey – 4womaninthewilderness blogspot
  13. That is pretty impossible for the GB, isn't it? They admit they are not inspired by Holy Spirit, which is the only way they could receive God's instructions. If they were to work as one with the an entire anointed Body, then yes; they would receive instructions of truth through Christ. Col 2:19; 1 Cor 12:21-26; Eph 4:4-6 As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him. 1 John 2:27 Holy Spirit, the source of inspiration comes from the vine - Jesus Christ. If these men say they are not inspired, (which they have) they have not 'remained' on the vine. “I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. 6 If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. 7 If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you. 8 This is to my Father’s glory, that you bear much fruit, showing yourselves to be my disciples." John 15:5-8 So, whose "instructions" are they carrying out? 2 Cor 11:4,13,14 How does Jesus truly see these men who claim they are not inspired with his truth? “If you love me, keep my commands. 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you." John 14:15-17
  14. True, (actually, it would be Christ who has been given that authority , John 5:22) but what was the true motivation of WT attorney, Joel Taylor? Isn't it more important at this point to consider why a representative of the organization, would clearly tell a lie?
  15. In other words, you recognize that speaking up against the GB’s mistakes can cause one to be shunned; however, no one can walk away, not even quietly without being shunned. I can count four individuals close by, who are not disfellowshipped but are treated as such, just for walking away. You also know these things. A true Christian who follows the path of Christ, would speak up for truth and expose error, right? Isn’t that the emphasis the organization takes when it comes to “christendom”? Why should upholding truth stop just because eight uninspired men say they represent Christ? Matt 24:24 Even the anointed/"elect" are stumbled by the end time, "false christs". John 16:2; Rev 13:11,15 Christ was not a coward; following in his footsteps requires speaking out for his truth., not swallowing lies or just walking away. Matt 5:10,11 Eph 6:12

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