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  1. "In view of this strong Bible evidence, concerning the Times of the Gentiles, we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God, will be accomplished by the end of A.D. 1914" Studies in the Scriptures - The time is at Hand. p. 99 I can hear Russell's followers bringing this message to the doors. "This is established truth! God's Kingdom will arrive in 1914!" "...Make yourself an example of good works with integrity and dignity in your teaching. 8 Your message is to be sound beyond reproach, so that any opponent will be ashamed, because he doesn’t have anything bad to say about us." Titus 2:6b-8 "Established truth" - the established foundation of the teachings of the Watchtower organization. "But the prophet who presumes to speak a message in My name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods—that prophet must die.’ 21 You may say to yourself, ‘How can we recognize a message the Lord has not spoken?’ 22 When a prophet speaks in the Lord’s name, and the message does not come true or is not fulfilled, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him." Deut 18 Russell and those leaders after him, were "presumptuous" in proclaiming their many failed prophecies, establishing their own words as TRUTH. There is only one established Truth, that is from Jesus Christ. Therefore, Russell is stating his truth was issued from Christ, from the Almighty Father. He established God's timeline that failed. He created a foundation for a religion on shifting sand; always moving, always eroding, always needing repair work. And when that happens, the foundation finally fails, bringing the whole organization with it. “Therefore, everyone who hears these words of mine and acts on them will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 The rain fell, the rivers rose, and the winds blew and pounded that house. Yet it didn’t collapse, because its foundation was on the rock. 26 But everyone who hears these words of mine and doesn’t act on them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. 27 The rain fell, the rivers rose, the winds blew and pounded that house, and it collapsed. It collapsed with a great crash.” Matt 7:24-27
  2. "THE CORROBORATIVE TESTIMONY OF GOD'S STONE WITNESS AND PROPHET THE GREAT PYRAMID IN EGYPT"
  3. So, what does all of this do for us? Are we to appreciate the writer of these poems who also wrote of "THE CORROBORATIVE TESTIMONY OF GOD'S STONE WITNESS AND PROPHET THE GREAT PYRAMID IN EGYPT" in Study 10 of the "Studies in the Scriptures"?
  4. No one said that each woman is a covenant. “These things are being taken figuratively: The women represent two covenants.” Sarah represent Jerusalem Above, the new covenant/promise of life. Those under this covenant are “children of the promise” – Abraham’s seed. Gal 4:26; Rom 9:8 This “woman” is giving birth in Revelation 12:2, cared for in the wilderness in Rev 12:6,14 All those faithful anointed under her, the new covenant, experience what the covenant experiences as a whole. The attack by the dragon, persecution, “birth pangs” (Matt 24:8) and subsequent protection and care “in the wilderness”. This is God’s covenant with “daughter Jerusalem”, “Virgin Israel”– the Bride of Christ. Jer 31:4 Once this covenant is fulfilled, more “children” are “born” from the union of the father of these future children – Jesus Christ (Isa 9:6) and their “mother”, the Bride. (Isa 66:7-13) Babylon the Great is signified by a woman as well. Her “harlot daughters” wear her identifying mark. “The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls. She held a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominable things and the filth of her adulteries. 5 The name written on her forehead was a mystery: BABYLON THE GREAT THE MOTHER OF PROSTITUTES AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. Rev 17:4-5 Any who enter this covenant, will receive not the promise of eternal life from Jerusalem above, but the promise of death. Isa 28:14-19 If lies are the refuge of God’s fallen anointed ones, false teachers/false prophets that have “deceived the elect” in the last days (Matt 24:24,25) they have entered this covenant. Their father is the father of the lie, Satan; and their “mother” is Babylon the Great.
  5. Did it ever occur to you than an individual who has suffered from CSA can help another person with CSA, on a personal level? It's not always necessary to join an organization to get something done. Presently, I have five friends who have come out of the Wt, and have suffered from CSA either as a result of being a JW or victimized as a child in other circumstances. That makes six of us who support one another without blowing our own horn. You've made an opinion about myself and Srecko, without considering all aspects of "support". Matt 6:3 What I believe is "truth" concerning the fulfillment of the end, is far different than what you believe. I know that the signs of tribulation and Armageddon pertain to God's holy anointed people. Whatever Satan devises in the world of politics and religion is a diversion of the spiritual reality. Luke 17:30-21
  6. Did you notice that those who are listening to Jezebel become adulterers as well? They are sharing in her sins just as Revelation 18:4-8 gives warning of. You can't repent of spiritual immorality, unless you escape/flee from the spiritual harlot. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs 2&version=NKJV
  7. On a "daily basis" I am concerned about the people in the Wt. Thank you for your warning, but I'll be okay with whatever you're talking about. But your opinion is, among many opinions expressed on the days that you are here, is that I can do better. I think we can all do better, even you SM. As long as I keep listening to Christ, I hope to do better. 🙂
  8. I never said it was. It is a covenant of death, which I told you is described in Isa 28:14-19. When we leave the covenant of life in Christ and accept "false prophets, false christs" to teach us, haven't we left the promise of eternal life in Christ. We have become apostate to God's teachings when we enter a new covenant. The covenant of death, which is symbolized in the symbolic book of Revelation is "Babylon", the opposite of the covenant of life.
  9. I'm sorry you couldn't put two and two together! And I have no clue who Betsy is. I knew you would shred the topic to pieces. Do you know who Paul Gillies is? You might want to chew on the link if you haven't already seen it. I refuse to go any further about what you're trying to accuse me of. If I post a video here, it doesn't mean that I am best buddies with the person who made it. I post the video because of information within it that I feel could be useful for someone else to hear. un-correspondence-bates-gilles.pdf
  10. The baptism questions INCLUDE one’s dedication to the organizational idol. Read them again and compare them with Christ’s words in Matthew chapter 28:19-20 Where are the scriptures that tell us that Jesus said never to leave the organization - an organization not spoken of in the scriptures to begin with? WAITING? He was actively pronouncing the sins of his people, and was killed for preaching the need for refinement, rejected as the coming Messiah. Again, his message was the need for repentance, not to remain under the rule of the Pharisees, which is contrary to what YOU are promoting. (Luke 13:1-5; Matt 10:33) He wasn’t waiting for the Pharisees to tell HIM what to do; he was fulfilling prophecy about himself, and preparing the disciples to lead others into truth after he died and was resurrected. Those today who listen to his words and follow in his footsteps, are “killed”/disfellowshipped by the organization for preaching the same truth - his teachings, not doctrine of men. (Rev 13:15) His disciples entered a new covenant, no longer under the old law covenant, the old “organizational arrangement”. Are you saying that JWs who are disfellowshipped must return to the “old” teachings, the old wine made with rotten fruit of failed teachings? (Matt 7:15-20) Or, are they to put on a new wine skin and fill it with the new wine of God’s word in Christ, thus preserving their lives? (Matt 9:17) We don’t return to vomit. (Isa 28:7-10) Obviously, the apostles never bowed down to the power of the Pharisees either. (Acts 5:29) And they were told to take care of Christ's sheep. John 21:17 And you are not making the claim that you are part of the "bride". In the parable of the virgins of "Israel", the foolish ones were not prepared for the coming of Christ. They went to those who “sell” oil/provisions. The wise responded with their lamps in order, when they heard the call. While the foolish virgins were busy buying spiritual food from those other than Jesus Christ, the wise WENT OUT to meet the bridegroom, prepared to enter the marriage feast, and the door was then shut. The others were too late to enter. (Matt 7:21-23) The anointed who remain inside the organization cannot join with the bridegroom, unless they go out to meet him, and are “killed”/disfellowshipped by the Beast/organization for their testimony to Christ. (Matt 25:1-13;Rev 11:1-3,7) The false prophet of Rev. 13:11,12, demands that no one can “buy or sell” spiritual provisions unless they have the “mark”/the name of the idol they worship – “Jehovah’s organization”. JWs “buy” their spiritual provisions from the leadership/false prophets in exchange for their servitude - not to God, who doesn’t live in “temples made with hands” - but for their servitude to the organizational idol. Rev 13:14-17; Acts 17:24-25,29) You expect the anointed and all JWs to show submission to men, and not listen to the call of their Master. Rev 18:4 I've been on this forum since at least 2015-16. I have always pleaded with people to get out of the organization and save their souls. You have little to say about Revelation 18:4-8. In fact, you totally ignore it; Why? Because the call is exactly the opposite of what you say Christ is telling people - to stay where they are. So what should people believe, God's word, or your words that have no backing in scripture? You dismiss scriptures that do not fit your agenda, especially about the priesthood. No matter what is presented in front of you using God's word, you preach the opposite. You fill the page with empty words, empty sentiments lacking all sincere compassion for JW's. God's word is like fire.(Jer 23:29) It can refine the heart of the person if he or she submits to His word (Luke 3:16; Mal 3:3; Rev 3:18); or it can condemn them. (Hos 6:5; Lule 3:17; 2 Thess 1:8) Condemnation comes when God's word is ignored, and that word presently is in Revelation 18:4-8; 14:6-12. Jesus is calling people out of the organization, out of the apostate city of "Babylon". When a house is on fire, you do your best to pull people out of it, whose lives are in danger. You don't wait and see who will live and who will die. But that's what you want! You are on the outside, telling people to remain inside. How convenient for you! Do you know that that's exactly what Robert King tells people? You want people to stay where they are, and continue to listen to lies. You too, are in "Babylon". Have mercy on those who waver; 23 save others by snatching them from the fire; have mercy on others but with fear, hating even the garment defiled by the flesh. Jude 1:20-12 For an individual to stand on the outside, like yourself, and watch a house burn by the fire of God's word, knowing that there are people inside, shows that the person's conscience is seared. (1 Tim 4:1,2) You expect them to show submission to men of your "fortress", while the fortress is under attack because of the men in charge? Amos 5 tells us to seek God and pursue righteousness; not remain passive, quiet and fearful of men who lord it over the oppressed. Otherwise, we go down with the fortress that men have built. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Amos+5&version=ESV
  11. That's exactly what the Watchtower is, merely an institution just like all the others. You have just proven that God has not put His name on the Watchtower organization. His Spirit is not in this organization, an institution just like all the others. By the way, the Watchtower has been consistent in hiding child abuse cases for many years.
  12. The “holier than thou” is found right here: "So it is, by observing the conduct of Jehovah’s witnesses, people see that here is a good, upright and godly organization. They also see that here is a clean and virtuous organization whose members have 'put off the works belonging to darkness,' who are not walking “in revelries and drunken bouts, not in illicit intercourse and loose conduct, not in strife and jealousy,” and who are not “planning ahead for the desires of the flesh.'" w60 8/15 p. 505-506 “Rather, it is an assurance to you that you are associated with a clean organization, one that God will bless.” w62 10/15 p. 631-632 “Jehovah and His Organization, Holy and Clean” w83 5/1 p. 24 “After we have been brought into the protective and loving care of God’s clean organization, we have the responsibility to help maintain it.” w17 October pp. 21-25 Hypocrites.
  13. Like where? SM, I was talking about the person who wrote the letter I posted. These leaders have hidden child abuse records for years. They are deceiving hypocrites, and hypocrites hide their devious works from those they are deceiving. I declare, sometimes you're so smart, you're naive. But that's okay, you have an agenda and it's your agenda. I have mine as well. 🙂
  14. I don't have a flock, Jesus does.🙂 Sometimes the most obvious just evades you, dear SM. About the UN, the person came up with that information independently. The United Nations and the Watchtower organization are supposed to be enemies of one another. It is taught as the "Beast" of Rev 13:1-2. Year after year, the UN becomes the enemy, the disgusting beast in a JW's mind. It become so cemented in one's mind that there is no question that the organization would have nothing to do with the Beast! Any independent connection by a JW to the UN, is frowned upon. So, for the Wt to associate with the UN's "department of global communications", it can be interpreted as an appalling act to a JW, who never knew this before. To fully indoctrinated JWs, this is getting in bed with the Beast. No matter how light you make of it, it is a Big Deal to many JWs. It is an act of hypocrisy against their own teachings. Please don't beat the topic to death.
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