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  1. “And this good news of this and that will be preached in all the inhabited earth as a witness to all nations, and then the end will come.” Matt 24:14 I wrote this with @TrueTomHarley in mind, who quoted the above scripture here: But, I do hope all JWs here will consider this comment. Tom, I know I’m the last person you want to hear from, but I just want to share some thoughts about this scripture, since I can’t think of how many hundreds of times I would mentally quote it, not only as a JW, but now – more than ever. The “good news” preached by JWs in these last days is based on a date; 1914. JWs proclaim Christ began his reign as King in 1914. There’s a few things wrong with this (actually, more than a few things) Jesus was already preaching the “good news” while on earth. 7 And the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was given to him. He unrolled the scroll and found the place where it was written, 18 “The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty those who are oppressed, 19 to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor.” 20 And he rolled up the scroll and gave it back to the attendant and sat down. And the eyes of all in the synagogue were fixed on him. 21 And he began to say to them, “Today this Scripture has been fulfilled in your hearing.” Luke 4:17-21 “Soon afterward he went on through cities and villages, proclaiming and bringing the good news of the kingdom of God. And the twelve were with him” Luke 8:1 And when it was day, he departed and went into a desolate place. And the people sought him and came to him, and would have kept him from leaving them, 43 but he said to them, “I must preach the good news of the kingdom of God to the other towns as well; for I was sent for this purpose.” If you lived in that day, wouldn’t you believe that the promised Kingdom had come upon those who were poor and oppressed, captive to the burden of unrighteous rules and regulation of the Pharisees? Matt 11:28 The words of Isaiah were fulfilled by Christ’s validation. “The Law and the Prophets were proclaimed until John. Since that time, the good news of the kingdom of God is being preached, and everyone is forcing their way into it. Luke 16:16 And remain in the same house, eating and drinking what they provide, for the laborer deserves his wages. Do not go from house to house.8 Whenever you enter a town and they receive you, eat what is set before you. 9 Heal the sick in it and say to them, ‘The kingdom of God has come near to you.’ Luke 10:7-9 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: 21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. Luke 17:20-21 The Kingdom has always been present in the hearts of the faithful anointed ones since Christ came to earth. John 14:23; 1 Cor 3:16,17; 2 Cor 6:16 Each anointed one is to carry the message of Christ's truth once Jesus ascended into heaven, where he has ruled as King since he has preached the “good news”. Ps 110:1,2; Matt 28:18;Luke 12:49-53; 1 Cor 15:23-26 (please read) They brought the Kingdom “good news” to all who accepted it, the promised gift of life in Christ. John 13:20; Matt 10:40 Think about it; the Watchtower says the end time preaching work was established because Jesus finally began ruling in the heavens in 1914. This date totally wipes out Christ’s given authority already established when he was on earth. If one is given authority, one uses it, which he did. He directed his disciples to go and preach; indicating he would be with all his anointed ones "till the end of the age". Matt 28:19,20 WT's date also indicates that the “good news” Christ and the apostles preached, was not as near as important as what the Watchtower wants to take credit for; yet the reigning symbolic “144,000” preached Christ throughout the last 2,000 years; and for that, were sealed into the Kingdom. 2,000 years of preaching the "good news" compared to about a hundred years by the WT. However, the Watchtower states that this wasn’t occurring from the second century on; saying God’s people were “captive” in “Babylon” until approximately a hundred years ago. Hmmm. No sealing of the anointed ones for almost 2,000 years then? Even if 144,000 was a literal number, which I don’t believe, it would mean all of them except for the remnant today, would have been sealed within two centuries of Christ’s presence on earth. They actually base this on another date, five years after 1914; 1919, when “true worship” was to have been restored. This is a pretty far-fetched idea to think that any anointed priests offering “sacrifices of praise” in pure worship to God, wasn't around for the last 2,000 years before the organization appeared. Heb 13:15 The end time preaching of the good news has similar characteristics of Christ’s day. This is where the term “inhabited earth” helps clarify who it is that receives it. The Kingdom “heirs” to rule with Christ are down to a remnant left on earth, who face the “great tribulation”; an event stronger and different, than what God’s people in covenant faced when Jesus was on earth. Matt 24:21 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened. Matt 24:22 Another “abomination” attacks another temple of God; the remnant “living stones” of God’s Temple in Christ. 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; 1 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2 Jerusalem and the temple was trampled by the Roman army; today New Jerusalem/Temple of God’s people under covenant , is also “trampled” by another “Gentile” power ruling over them. Rev 11:1,2 The term “inhabited earth” has a deeper meaning than what one may realize. Thus says the Lord: *“Heaven is My throne, And earth is My footstool.* Where is the house that you will build Me? And where is the place of My rest? 2 For all those things My hand has made, And all those things exist,” Says the Lord. “But on this one will I look: On him who is poor and of a contrite spirit, And who trembles at My word.” No literal house is God’s temple today when He has chosen His house built with “living stones” on the Body of Christ. They are His “footstool”, His inhabited “owned” land with Christ as the chief cornerstone. 1 Pet 2:5,9; Eph 2:20-22 For we are God’s fellow workers; you are God’s field, you are God’s building. 10 According to the grace of God which was given to me, as a wise master builder I have laid the foundation, and another builds on it. But let each one take heed how he builds on it. 11 For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ.” 1 Cor 3:9-11 Please, don’t allow Stephen Lett to rob you of the true meaning of who comprise the Temple of God. He used this scripture in the Annual 2018 meeting to refer to every JW, which is another ploy to erase the identity and existence of the anointed ones. Ezekiel’s vision of the heavenly Temple also verifies that it is spiritual “Israel” sealed into the heavens as God’s dwelling and describes the situation happening today in the Watchtower: The Spirit lifted me up and brought me into the inner court; and behold, the glory of the Lord filled the temple. 6 Then I heard Him speaking to me from the temple, while a man stood beside me. 7 And He said to me, “Son of man, *this is the place of My throne and the place of the soles of My feet,* where I will dwell in the midst of the children of Israel forever. No more shall the house of Israel defile My holy name, they nor their kings, by their harlotry or with the carcasses of their kings on their high places. 8 When they set their threshold by My threshold, and their doorpost by My doorpost, with a wall between them and Me, they defiled My holy name by the abominations which they committed; therefore I have consumed them in My anger. 9 Now let them put their harlotry and the carcasses of their kings far away from Me, and I will dwell in their midst forever. Ezek 43:6-9 The GB have allowed an “abomination” to “enter” and rule over God’s Temple. The Temple priests are also guilty of allowing another Head to rule over them and not Christ. Ezek 44:6-9; Mal 2:7-9; 3:1-4 This is how the “power of the holy ones is brought to nothing” in the last days, and it is why there is an end time preaching work to the “inhabited earth” now, to the owned land/habitation of God. Dan 12:7; 2:33,41 “with a wall between them and Me” – There is a “wall” of falsehoods “built” by the organization (which you know can’t be dismissed) that conflicts with pure truth in Christ. Any teaching that is not true, cannot be sourced in Christ. The WT leaders are very good at teaching untrue doctrine; yet, they have placed their “threshold” by God’s “threshold”, declaring God’s Holy Spirit has directed them to speak such lies, touting all along that they are “Jehovah’s friend” even when new doctrine is formulated to cover over previous lies. Can you see these things? Do you care to? (Ezek 13) It is a fallacy spurred on by the GB, and by those who are “trampling” – ruling over - the Temple of God, to interpret the “good news” as being preached throughout the world of man today. Check the Greek meaning for “inhabited earth”. This is DECEIT, and it is how the anointed are fooled and conquered in the last days; as well as all JWs. 2 Thess 2:11,12 1914 is a “prophesy” that has been spread by “word of mouth” and also by a “letter” – magazine” – that asserts the “day of the Lord has come”. 2 Thess 2:1,2 Firstly, that Christ is finally reigning in the heavens; secondly that the Kingdom was “born” in 1914. And yet, this birth is followed by “birth pangs”. Matt 24:4-8 Does this even make sense? After this announcement, gradually the entrance of the Man Lawlessness that “sits (rules) in the Temple of God” gains power over the Temple priesthood. It is the elder body – an “image” that reflects a “spirit-directed organization”. Rev 13:1,4,6-8,15 The “good news” is the redemption of “Jacob”, of “Israel”, just as the preaching work of Jesus and the apostles, to the people in covenant with God. Luke 4:17-19; Rev 18:4-8; Rev 11:3; 10:8-11; 1 Thess 5:3 Jesus stated clearly the events, and who would receive the end time preaching of the “good news”, and verse 23 is a scripture I never took note of while in the organization. “Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves. Therefore be wise as serpents and harmless as doves. 17 But beware of men, for they will deliver you up to councils (judicial committees) and scourge you in their synagogues. (“Jewish” meeting places/congregations)18 You will be brought before governors and kings (GB/elder body) for My sake, as a testimony to them and to the Gentiles. 19 But when they deliver you up, do not worry about how or what you should speak. For it will be given to you in that hour what you should speak; 20 for it is not you who speak, but the Spirit of your Father who speaks in you. 21 “Now brother will deliver up brother to death, and a father his child; and children will rise up against parents and cause them to be put to death. 22 And you will be hated by all for My name’s sake. (for the sake of Christ anointed ones and companions are disfellowshipped) But he who endures to the end will be saved. 23 When they persecute you in this city, flee to another. For assuredly, I say to you, you will not have gone through the cities of Israel before the Son of Man comes.” Matt 10:16-23 “You must be on your guard. You will be handed over to the local councils and flogged in the synagogues. On account of me you will stand before governors and kings as witnesses to them. 10 And the gospel must first be preached to all nations. 11 Whenever you are arrested and brought to trial, do not worry beforehand about what to say. Just say whatever is given you at the time, for it is not you speaking, but the Holy Spirit. The circumstances of preaching the good news results from a form of persecution experienced for the sake of Christ, not for the sake of “Jehovah’s organization”. Anointed today in the organization experience this when coming against the authority of men who rule over them; when their hearts reject falsehood and turn fully to the Father and Christ. Their judgment is a spiritual “death”. Rev 12:17;13:15; 17:6; 11; 3,7 For assuredly, I say to you, you will not have gone through the cities of Israel before the Son of Man comes.” Matt 10:16-23 Are JWs preaching to the nation of Israel, or the whole world? Those that Christ sends…Rev 11:1-3…preach to spiritual “Israel” and their companions. Rev 18:4-8 is a call to “Israel” – “my people” – God’s owned “inhabited earth“, not to come out of Christendom as JWs teach, but to come out of a “Babylonian” captivity to a delusion built with truth mixed with lies. Rev 8:11 The remnant are “gathered” as one camp, yet “scattered” among the nations of JWs, and under a spiritual captivity to a Man of Lawlessness and deceit. Joel 3:2; Rev 13:9,10; 20:7-10; Rev 16:13-16; 19:19 This is what the Lord says— your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel: “I am the Lord your God, who teaches you what is best for you, who directs you in the way you should go. 18 If only you had paid attention to my commands, your peace would have been like a river, your well-being like the waves of the sea. 19 Your descendants would have been like the sand, your children like its numberless grains; their name would never be blotted out nor destroyed from before me.” 20 Leave Babylon, flee from the Babylonians! Announce this with shouts of joy and proclaim it. Send it out to the ends of the earth; say, “The Lord has redeemed his servant Jacob.” 21 They did not thirst when he led them through the deserts; he made water flow for them from the rock; he split the rock and water gushed out. 22 “There is no peace,” says the Lord, “for the wicked.” Isa 48:17-22 (Pear Doxsey, 4womaninthewilderness blogspot, has written more about the end time preaching work: "The Good News - What is it? Who is it for?)
  2. I’m glad you brought it up. Who should be blamed for condemning Jesus to death? "While going up to Jerusalem, Jesus took the twelve disciples aside privately and said to them on the way, 18 “See, we are going up to Jerusalem. The Son of Man will be handed over to the chief priests and scribes, and they will condemn him to death. 19 They will hand him over to the Gentiles to be mocked, flogged, and crucified, and on the third day he will be raised.” Matt 20:17-19 Paul equates this to the Jews killing Christ. "For you, brothers and sisters, became imitators of God’s churches in Christ Jesus that are in Judea, since you have also suffered the same things from people of your own country, just as they did from the Jews who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and persecuted us. They displease God and are hostile to everyone” 1 Thess 2:14,25 As Jesus predicted – "Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they treated them the same way. 37 But afterward he sent to them his son, saying, ‘They will respect my son.’ 38 But the farmers, when they saw the son, said among themselves, ‘This is the heir. Come, let’s kill him, and seize his inheritance.’ 39 So they took him, and threw him out of the vineyard, and killed him. " Matt 21:36-29 And Peter said, “Men of Israel, hear these words! Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved by God to you by mighty works and wonders and signs which God did by him among you, even as you yourselves know, him, being delivered up by the determined counsel and foreknowledge of God, you have taken by the hand of lawless men, crucified and killed” Acts 2:21,22 Although the chief priests of Israel had “no right to kill anyone”, they were responsible for his death. John 18:31 It is amazing to me how similar it is in the organization when an anointed priest speaks out against the organized religion of their people, the “chief priests”/ Pharisees, (GB) hand them over to “uncircumcised” spiritual “Gentiles” – “lawless men”, to be “killed” - disfellowshipped. It is the elder body/Man of Lawlessness, who treads down and rules over God’s Temple/priests. 1 Cor 3:16,17; 2 Cor 6:16; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2 This is extremism.
  3. Did a foreign nation want Jesus killed, or was he persecuted by his own people? On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. “Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?” 26 “What is written in the Law?” he replied. “How do you read it?” 27 He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind (Deut 6:8); and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’(Lev 19:28)” 28 “You have answered correctly,” Jesus replied. “Do this and you will live.” That isn’t an empty promise, is it? However, is it possible to love God in this way, when a towering organization requires servitude, devotion and love as well? Why would Christ’s teachings need any adjustment by men? Why would we need further decrees developed by anyone other than those of Christ and the apostles. We have the Bible, which is all we need. Deut 6:8 - Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads. 17 Be sure to keep the commands of the Lord your God and the stipulations and decrees he has given you. 18 Do what is right and good in the Lord’s sight, so that it may go well with you and you may go in and take over the good land the Lord promised on oath to your ancestors, 19 thrusting out all your enemies before you, as the Lord said. Deut 6:17-19 Lev 19 “‘Do not steal. “‘Do not lie. “‘Do not deceive one another. 12 “‘Do not swear falsely by My name and so profane the name of your God. I am the Lord. 13 “‘Do not defraud or rob your neighbor. “‘Do not hold back the wages of a hired worker overnight. 14 “‘Do not curse the deaf or put a stumbling block in front of the blind, but fear your God. I am the Lord. 15 “‘Do not pervert justice; do not show partiality to the poor or favoritism to the great, but judge your neighbor fairly. 16 “‘Do not go about spreading slander among your people. “‘Do not do anything that endangers your neighbor’s life. I am the Lord. 17 “‘Do not hate a fellow Israelite in your heart. Rebuke your neighbor frankly so you will not share in their guilt. 18 “‘Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against anyone among your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the Lord. 19 “‘Keep my decrees. “‘Keep all my decrees and all my laws and follow them. I am the Lord.’” Lev 19:11-19,37 Has the Watchtower followed all of the above? What about disfellowshipping those who refuse to serve an organization? What about perverting justice to victims of abuse? What about teachings and prophesies that have deceived its members? And the list goes on. Israel grew fat and kicked; filled with food, they became heavy and sleek. They abandoned the God who made them and rejected the Rock their Savior. 16 They made Him jealous with their foreign gods and angered Him with their detestable idols. 17 They sacrificed to false gods, which are not God— gods they had not known, gods that recently appeared, gods your ancestors did not fear. 18 You deserted the Rock, who fathered you; you forgot the God who gave you birth. 19 The Lord saw this and rejected them because he was angered by his sons and daughters. 20 “I will hide my face from them,” he said, “and see what their end will be; for they are a perverse generation, children who are unfaithful. Deut 32:15-20 WT 85/3/15 p. 10 - “GOD’S ORGANIZATION.” That expression was used by a member of the Watch Tower Society’s editorial staff during the daily Bible discussion at the Bethel dining tables over 60 years ago. How it thrilled the headquarters family in Brooklyn, New York! That UNIQUE PHRASE, “God’s organization,” served to GUIDE THE FUTURE THINKING, SPEECH AND WRITING of those Bible Students. It broadened their spiritual VISION with regard to all creation and greatly influenced their attitude toward the marvelous Organizer of the universe, Jehovah God. w89 12/15 p. 24 - To render acceptable sacrifices, we must cooperate fully with God’s organization. Who says? God? Jesus? Or men? w11 1/15 pp. 3-7 - Still, as a people, “the chosen ones” and their loyal companions will physically survive the end of apostate Christendom by taking refuge in Jehovah and his mountainlike organization. Isn’t God our Rock? Is there another? Fear the Lord your God, serve Him only and take your oaths in His name. 14 Do not follow other gods, the gods of the peoples around you;15 for the Lord your God, who is among you, is a jealous God and his anger will burn against you, and he will destroy you from the face of the land. 16 Do not put the Lord your God to the test as you did at Massah.17 Be sure to keep the commands of the Lord your God and the stipulations and decrees he has given you. 18 Do what is right and good in the Lord’s sight, so that it may go well with you and you may go in and take over the good land the Lord promised on oath to your ancestors, 19 thrusting out all your enemies before you, as the Lord said. Deut 6:13-19 God never abandoned the nation of Israel when His decrees were followed. The organization has proven it cannot rescue anyone in times of adversity. It is heart-wrenching to see this persecution exist, because people are trusting in a “unique” vision instead of trusting fully on God. During this time period, those that give their testimony to Christ in front of their own people must expect persecution. “If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. 19 If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you. 20 Remember what I told you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also. 21 They will treat you this way because of my name, for they do not know the one who sent me. Who does he mean by the “world”? 22 If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin; but now they have no excuse for their sin. He spoke truth to his people and they rejected him, they killed him. When anointed and companions speak against a false god, its leaders and its lies; turning completely to their Rock and their Savior, they are persecuted and rejected by their people. They are considered spiritually “dead”. They are following in the path of Christ. John 16:2; Rev 13:14-17 WT 17/10 - “In these last days, Jehovah’s people have been able to do a great work. This has been possible because of Jehovah’s blessing and Christ’s leadership. We are happy to be part of a STABLE, SECURE, AND EVERLASTING ORGANIZATION, and we know that Jehovah’s purpose for pure worship will come true.” “Do not be carried away by all kinds of strange teachings. It is good for our hearts to be strengthened by grace, not by eating ceremonial (“spiritual”) foods, which is of no benefit to those who do so. 11 The high priest carries the blood of animals into the Most Holy Place as a sin offering, but the bodies are burned outside the camp. 12 And so Jesus also suffered outside the city gate (of Jerusalem) to make the people holy through his own blood. 13 Let us, then, go to him outside the camp, bearing the disgrace he bore. 14 For here we do not have an enduring city, but we are looking for the city that is to come. Heb 13:9,10,11-14 Srecko is speaking of worshiping in the Spirit and in Truth: John 4:23,24 “Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.” And you are faulting him for it, for following Jesus’ words? I would guess he has already suffered greatly for his stance against his own people, where spiritual “Israel” reside. We do not have an enduring physical organization established in the world of Satan, that will lead us into the Kingdom. We have Christ. John 10:7-10 Hear the word of the Lord, You who tremble at HIS word: “Your brethren who hated you, Who cast you out for My name’s sake, said, ‘Let the Lord be glorified, That we may see your joy.’ But they shall be ashamed.” Isa 66:5
  4. Apples and oranges are blending together, causing a shakeup in the Watchtower, It all relates to th same underlying problem. Come now. When you face court battle after court battle over doctrine you had a share in instituting which shields pedophiles, wouldn't you consider this as "trouble"? From a "human standpoint" I believe Christ's teachings as well as the apostles, were very sound. I agree with you that the GB are not concerned with anything being sound from a human standpoint. Truth is very sound. Lies cause upheaval. But you are to proclaim things consistent with sound teaching. Titus 2:1 If anyone teaches otherwise and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching, they are conceited and understand nothing. They have an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions5 and constant friction between people of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain. 1 Tim 6:3-5 For the time will come when people will not tolerate sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, will multiply teachers for themselves because they have an itch to hear what they want to hear. 4 They will turn away from hearing the truth and will turn aside to myths. According to your words, this time is here. Anna, I know you believe she is "some crazy lady", but my intention was for anyone who would like to know more about the identities of Revelation's Beasts, could go to her blog. I am fully aware that you are not the only reader here.
  5. This rock statue housed in the Canadian Watchtower Bethel was brought to my attention when watching a video. The blue sign says, “Often defined as “that which acts in the capacity of a human”, these giant landmarks have been use as markers and for navigation by the peoples in Canada’s far north. Just like the Inuksuk, our literature is able to speak on our behalf in hard to reach places” Please go to this link to receive insight on the spiritual meaning of the pagan idol Inuksuk: http://ca.paganfederation.org/the-history-and-meaning-of-the-inuksuk/ I hope you can perceive how its symbolism connects with Watchtower’s definition of itself. I hope you are capable of looking beyond the apparent superficial, innocent motivation to relate the magazine preaching work to the Inuksuk’s image, and can determine that an idol is now housed within an IDOL. In my opinion, the Inuksuk’s definition reflects the presumed ideology of the elder body/Man of Lawless presently ruling over the true House of God, the anointed Temple. Thess 2:3,4; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; 2 Cor 6:16-18; Eph 2:20-222 ("Christ's Return - When?" - Pearl Doxsey, 4womaninthewilderness) Yes, the Watchtower and its various “Bethels” are a composite idol. “Bethel” means “house of God”, the dwelling place of God. Before the Watchtower organization came along God had already began building His dwelling place, when He chose “living stones” to join Christ’s Body. 1 Pet 2:5,9,10; John 2:19-22; 1 Cor 6:15 "Jehovah's Witnesses" believe that the physical buildings and the work that is conducted from within them, is a manifestation of God's house ("Beth-el" = "house of God" Hebrew)...His place of worship, and the dwelling of His spirit. I firmly state that this is not only impossible, but it is blasphemy for the "Watchtower" to assume the identity of "Bethel". I propose that the facilities and operations that define the "Watchtower"... it's Headquarters, Branch Offices, and Kingdom Halls, strongly indicate where their power originates, and it is not with God. Of course, such assertions have to be proven by scriptural references, if they are true. God himself knows where His resting place is, and what sort of house in which his spirit dwells. His Word, tells us these things. It is vital to compare His words to what we observe the "Watchtower" to be, as well as what it claims, regarding itself. By means of God's Truth, we are enabled to open our eyes, and wake up! Where is the resting place of God's spirit on earth? Isa 66:1,2: "This is what the Lord says: 'Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool. Where is the house that you would build for me, and where will my resting place be? 2 All these things my hand has made, and so all these things came into being,” declares the Lord. “But this is the one to whom I will look favorably: to the one who is humble and contrite in spirit, and who trembles at my message." God states that He has made the earth and everything in it. "The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and DOES NOT LIVE IN TEMPLES BUILT BY HUMAN HANDS." (Acts 17:24) Where then, does his spirit rest on earth... His footstool? Ps 132:7-9,13,14: “Let us go to his dwelling place, let us worship at his footstool, saying, ‘Arise, Lord, and come to your resting place, you and the ark of your might. May your priests be clothed with your righteousness; may your faithful people sing for joy.’”For the Lord has chosen ZION, desiring it as his dwelling place. “This is my resting place forever. Here I will live, because I desire to do so." Remember Isa.66:2 B? "But this is the one to whom I will look favorably: to the one who is humble and contrite in spirit, and who trembles at my message." Yes, God will dwell in Mt. Zion. Where would the location of God's Temple be, in our physical realm? Christ is the cornerstone of that Temple, and the living stones added upon the foundation of apostles and prophets (Eph 2:20-22), are those whom God chooses... the humble, dejected by the world, and God-fearing. His spirit comes to dwell within them (1 Pet 2:5; 1 Cor 3:16,9; 6:19; Heb 3:6; Luke 17:21; 1 Cor 2:9-12) So, God's "Bethel" is not physical at all, but spiritual (Heb 3:6). His true worshipers worship IN SPIRIT AND TRUTH (John 4:23,24; Ps 51:17,18)... not in million dollar construction projects, or a billion dollar corporation (John 18:36). It is to be a spiritual house of prayer forever. (Isa 56:7; 2:3; Matt 21:13,12; Rev 13:11,16,17; 9:21; Matt 11:12; 2 Thess 2:7; Mal 3:8,7; Isa 10:1-3; 1:23) (Ma55:24:49B); Isa 3:14,15; Micah 2:2; Dan 8:10-14,17,19,23,24; (Jer 30:3; 31:4,23; John 2:19; Rev 11:11) Pearl Doxsey - "Where is Bethel?"
  6. Every person can act on his own to represent others, just as G. Jackson did. No, he had nothing to do with the case and I don't believe Jackson had anything to do with the primary case in Australia. He barely knew the case. It is always easier to run from trouble than to face what trouble may come. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have its approval. Rom 13:3 Think about the case. Did the Watchtower "do what is good" to begin with? What I notice Anna, you generally seem unfazed by scripture and its meaning. I do hope that changes. Oh, yes. It’s the job of I don’t know how many, Watchtower lawyers. The GB makes the doctrine, the elders uphold it whether it is sound from a human standpoint or not, and the lawyers step in to defend an illogical doctrine that has caused misery and havoc throughout the congregations. The WT: “And I saw a beast coming up out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads. On its horns were ten crowns,and on its heads were blasphemous names. The beast I saw was like a leopard, its feet were like a bear’s, and its mouth was like a lion’s mouth. The dragon gave the beast his power, his throne, and great authority. The beast was given a mouth to utter boasts and blasphemies. It was allowed to exercise authority for forty-two months. 6 It began to speak blasphemies against God: to blaspheme his name and his dwelling (1 Cor 3:16,17; 2 Cor 6:16;Eph 2:20-22) —those who dwell in heaven. (Heb 12:22) 7 And it was permitted to wage war against the saints and to conquer them. ws16 January p. 20 w02 8/1 p. 10-11 ws17 March p. 3 It was also given authority over every tribe, people, language, and nation. 8 All those who live on the earth will worship it, everyone whose name was not written from the foundation of the world in the bookof life of the Lamb who was slaughtered. The GB: Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth; it had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon. (a false prophet; as if representing truth in Christ) 12 It exercises all the authority of the first beast on its behalf and compels the earth and those who live on it to worship the first beast, whose fatal wound was healed. w 14/5/15 p. 28,29 - If we are to have Jehovah’s favor and blessing as individuals, we must support his organization and accept adjustments in our understanding of the Scriptures. It deceives those who live on the earth because of the signs that it is permitted to perform in the presence of the beast, telling those who live on the earth to make an image (The anointed reflect the “image” of God’s Temple; the elder body reflect the image of “Jehovah’s organization”. Isa 40:25; 46:5) of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. 15 It was permitted to give breath (spirit, life; “spirit-directed”) to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast could both speak and cause whoever would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. (disfellowshipped) w61 6/15 p. 371 - It is a serious thing to disfellowship a person, because it means that the person is cut off from God’s organization, from life. They worshiped the dragon because he gave authority to the beast. And they worshiped the beast, Kingdom Ministry 8/82 pg 1: “Loyalty and godly devotion are essentials of true WORSHIP. (2 Tim. 2:19) Jehovah God rightly expects each of us to maintain a devoted attachment to him AND his visible earthly organization.” saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to wage war against it?” Rev 13:4 What a joy it is to be a part of Jehovah’s marvelous organization and to observe the vast difference between those serving Jehovah and those not serving him. w18 October pp. 17-21 There was just the one ark that survived the Flood, not a number of boats. And there will be only one organization—God’s visible organization—that will survive the fast-approaching “great tribulation.” You Can Live Forever in Paradise on Earth p. 255 But Jehovah’s servants already belong to the only organization that will survive the end of this wicked system of things. W07/12/15 p. 14 Pearl Doxsey - Harlot and Beast, 4womaninthewilderness
  7. Thank you, Anna. I had already read it, and I understand what you are saying. I thought it was all about not only showing respect and honor to the authorities, but giving a good “witness” for your faith. I can’t think of one instance where a news article concerning a child abuse case stated the governing body of the Watchtower was contacted and their answer was… Always it is, not available for comment, refused to comment, failed to comment, couldn’t be contacted. As I recall, getting G. Jackson to appear in Australia was not an easy task. Can the GB claim to lead a spiritual people as Moses did, or compare themselves to the apostles, and also act as weasels? Moses and the apostles represented the true God in Holy Spirit, which gives the weak courage and motivation to speak truth. “But before all these things, they will lay their hands on you and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues and prisons. You will be brought before kings and rulers for My name’s sake. 13 But it will turn out for you as an occasion for testimony.” Luke 21:12,13 “But when they arrest you and deliver you up, do not worry beforehand, or premeditate what you will speak. But whatever is given you in that hour, speak that; for it is not you who speak, but the Holy Spirit.” Mark 13:11 Losch/Loesch (which is the correct spelling) was asked to “testify” for the organization, not for Christ. This is the difference, a hypocritical organization couldn’t give him courage to “witness” in truth. If the organization was guiltless before God and had His approval and blessing, would its leaders hesitate in the least to stand before anyone and defend their “decrees” and beliefs? They would be “inspired” to do so. But the following night the Lord stood by him and said, “Be of good cheer, Paul; for as you have testified for Me in Jerusalem, so you must also bear witness at Rome.” Acts 23:11 But Festus answered that Paul should be kept at Caesarea, and that he himself was going there shortly. 5 “Therefore,” he said, “let those who have authority among you go down with me and accuse this man, to see if there is any fault in him.” 6 And when he had remained among them more than ten days, he went down to Caesarea. And the next day, sitting on the judgment seat, he commanded Paul to be brought. 7 When he had come, the Jews who had come down from Jerusalem stood about and laid many serious complaints against Paul, which they could not prove, 8 while he answered for himself, “Neither against the law of the Jews, nor against the temple, nor against Caesar have I offended in anything at all.” Acts 25:4-8 But Festus, wanting to do the Jews a favor, answered Paul and said, “Are you willing to go up to Jerusalem and there be judged before me concerning these things?” 10 So Paul said, “I stand at Caesar’s judgment seat, where I ought to be judged. To the Jews I have done no wrong, as you very well know. 11 For if I am an offender, or have committed anything deserving of death, I do not object to dying; but if there is nothing in these things of which these men accuse me, no one can deliver me to them. I appeal to Caesar.” 12 Then Festus, when he had conferred with the council, answered, “You have appealed to Caesar? To Caesar you shall go!” Acts 25:9-12 I believe Losch knows his weakness, that he knows in his heart that Christ has become a stumbling block before him, because he has chosen to put faith in another “house”, which he realizes can’t deliver him out of trouble. 1 Pet 2:7,8; Matt 7:24-27; Eph 2:20-22 For Christ's sake; yes, you do.
  8. I was wondering if someone would bring that out. Of course, it is all legal. He was saved from showing face by a Watchtower lawyer who created for him legal jargon to avoid showing in court. As a member of the GB – “faithful and discreet slave” - he didn’t even have the courage and integrity to represent them. He could have respectfully shown as directed and explain it in person. How faithful is he to scripture? Everyone must submit to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except from God, and those that exist are instituted by God. 2 So then, the one who resists the authority is opposing God’s command, and those who oppose it will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have its approval. That is where it starts – “do what is good.” 4 For government is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, because it does not carry the sword for no reason. For government is God’s servant, an avenger that brings wrath on the one who does wrong. 5 Therefore, you must submit, not only because of wrath, but also because of your conscience. Is he afraid? Is his conscience seared? 1 Tim 4:1,2 6 And for this reason you pay taxes, since the authorities are God’s public servants, continually attending to these tasks. 7 Pay your obligations to everyone: taxes to those you owe taxes, tolls to those you owe tolls, respect to those you owe respect, and honor to those you owe honor. Rom 13:1-7 With all the evidence of the GB’s “work” and responsibilities that has been brought out here, how can anyone dismiss Loesch’s obvious lack of courage and integrity to confront a serious claim against “Jehovah’s organization” that he and his fellow “slaves” direct? Is that all that really matters? That it is legal? Where is the spiritual responsibility toward the organization and the people who look to the GB as leaders, as shepherds? Should JWs defend his act of cowardliness when JW children in school are ridiculed before classmates and teachers for not saluting the flag? It’s just more evidence that Holy Spirit is not present with its leaders.
  9. “I do not direct, and have never directed the day-to-day operations of Watchtower” Day-to-day operations? He is part of the what is referred to as the "faithful slave", which has a large laundry list of obligations each day - according to Samuel Herd: We work diligently to please our owners, Jehovah and Jesus, and that’s what Bethel is all about too. We work hard as slaves. To be a slave of Jehovah is a cherished privilege. Just to be owned by God, to belong to him is the best thing that could happen to any one of us. That is how the faithful and discreet slave feels as the feeding of the domestics is accomplished each day. Now you see members of the GB walking here and there in the various complexes here in he United States, from time to time. Every now and then we’ll go up to Canada, go other places throughout the world, and you see a few others walking around too. What are some things that occupy the time of the faithful slave and their attention. I just jotted down a FEW things. Now I’m gonna go through them very fast because we don’t have a lot of time, but you just think about them. Making decisions that affect the lives of all sheep – publishes, auxiliary, regular, special pioneers, missionaries, circuit overseers, Bethel family members all over the world Deciding whether new Branch facilities are needed in various countries throughout the world. Deciding on the needs in the field of computers, a field that just keeps growing and growing with each passing week. Looking into legal fights we’re having all over the world. Deciding the best approach to helping brothers and sisters who have been struck by natural disasters; how much money can be allotted and so forth. Deciding on assembly and convention program themes; drama broadcast programs, videos, new songs, morning worship program, involvement with all the schools being taught and there’s not end to it. Reading and checking and approving all materials that will be printed; looking and approving all artwork that will be used in our publications. What new languages to start translating Decide on what will appear on the jw .org and jw library and of course that has really been a jewel and still is. Final approval on all the audio recordings of the Bible Organize international and special conventions Organizes Branch dedications and assembly hall dedications worldwide Involved with all teaching, constantly looking to and praying to Jehovah for direction in shepherding his sheep. Now what has been said probably is only half of what is done by the faithful and discreet slave. What is accomplished is not by human effort alone but is by means of God’s Holy Spirit and direction given by Jesus, the head of the congregation. While all major decisions and approvals are made by the faithful and discreet slave, we have 30 most qualified helpers and several other brothers who work hard in assisting us to accomplish our responsibility of feeding and caring for Jehovah’s sheep. Their work does not go unnoticed. Now some of us maybe viewed as iron chefs but we’re not the only ones in the kitchen and you better believe that. Slave for Jehovah, a Cherished Privilege, jw broadcasting
  10. Perhaps he is trying to follow Christ’s path, and expose the lies and hypocrisy. ❤️ Matt 3:1-3;John 8:44; 2 Cor 10:4-6 We don’t walk away “happy” from the organization. If your emotional and spiritual heart is ripped in two, it takes time to recover. Matt 24:9,21, Luke 12:53 It takes time to start all over again, learning how we were stumbled, through scripture untainted by men’s doctrine. It takes time to build a true relationship with the Father and Christ outside of men’s orchestrated doctrinal demands. Eventually, faith and peace is achieved by understanding the true Shepherd is watching over his sheep, protecting them until he returns. Matt 5:1-12; John 10:1-5; Luke 15:4-7
  11. My, how they must struggle to keep their act together. If the Bible standards were actually followed, would 30 helpers need to bring a flaw in doctrine to the attention of a "faithful and discreet slave"? Who is helping them be "discreet", those not anointed which I would guess are most of the 30? “If you love Me, keep My commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. " John 14:15-17 "But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him." 1 John 2:27 The structure of the organization does not allow the anointed Body of Christ to act as one body under Christ, which would be evidence that the Spirit of Truth exists among them. Of course, in the organization this could never be. These men lean on their own structure, interpreting justice and doctrine without the blessing of Holy Spirit. "For I say, through the grace given to me, to everyone who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think soberly, as God has dealt to each one a measure of faith. For as we have many members in one body, but all the members do not have the same function, 5 so we, being many, are one body in Christ, and individually members of one another. " Rom 12:3-5 "But now indeed there are many members, yet one body. 21 And the eye cannot say to the hand, “I have no need of you”; nor again the head to the feet, “I have no need of you.” 22 No, much rather, those members of the body which seem to be weaker are necessary. 23 And those members of the body which we think to be less honorable, on these we bestow greater honor; and our unpresentable parts have greater modesty, 24 but our presentable parts have no need. But God composed the body, having given greater honor to that part which lacks it, 25 that there should be no [h]schism ("division") in the body, but that the members should have the same care for one another. 26 And if one member suffers, all the members suffer with it; or if one member is honored, all the members rejoice with it." 1 Cor 12:20-26 Paul is referring to the anointed body, not the GB's convenient interpretation of scripture to include 30 helpers and all JWs. Matt 16:18,19; John 2:19,21; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; 2 Cor 6:16 The Body of Christ is being refined and built to benefit mankind, teaching and aiding them in the Kingdom. Mal 2:7 The organization has corrupted scripture to fit their fleshly needs of power and greed, and to rule over and conquer the anointed ones through the influence of another spirit. Matt 24:48-51, Rev 13 1, 5-7,11,14-17 If they had God's Spirit, they would be calling the anointed body of Christ to join them. If they were truly motivated by Holy Spirit, Christ would make it happen. Matt 21:21,22; Luke 17:6; Mark 11:24; John 16:24
  12. Your good thoughts made be think again on the scriptures I quoted about the apostle’s concern to take care of the poor. It was known among Jesus’ disciples that the money bag they carried was basically money for the poor. Judas hypocritically questioned Mary’s use of expensive oil to anoint Jesus’ feet. “Why wasn’t this fragrant oil sold for 300 denariiand given to the poor?” 6 He didn’t say this because he cared about the poor but because he was a thief. He was in charge of the money-bag and would steal part of what was put in it.” John 12:1-6 (John 13:26-29) I know I’ve expressed this a few years back, but as a new JW, I had witnessed a poor family in the congregation who were not able to feed their children of five because of work difficulties common in a very depressed area; but still they were turned down by the elders when seeking financial help just to buy food. They had lost their home and were living in a tent. The answer was that “Jehovah’s organization” spiritually feed the “poor” through the “preaching work”. This is what Jesus and the apostles did (in truth) without the need for investments and a large treasury, which cannot buy spiritual riches. What riches are the GB seeking? Luke 4:5-8 The eye is impressed by what it physically sees, which is exactly the avenue the WT takes, appeasing fleshly desires by building a "high mountain". Gal 5:19-21; Luke 4:5; Zech 4:7 It is perceived that God’s blessings must be on the organization as can be seen in all the material accomplishments and advancements in technology the organization manages to build and obtain. WT leaders are like Judas, proclaiming to feed the “poor” but stealing out of the money bag to fulfill their desire to build bigger and better achievements, in the name of a false god - a "mountainlike organization". So Jesus said again, “I assure you: I am the door of the sheep. 8 All who came before Me are thieves and robbers (the Pharisees included),but the sheep didn’t listen to them. 9 I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved and will come in and go out and find pasture. 10 A thief comes only to steal and to kill and to destroy. I have come so that they may have life and have it in abundance. John 10:7-10 “Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravaging wolves. “false prophets” – “one who, acting the part of a divinely inspired prophet, utters falsehoods under the name of divine prophecies” “ravaging” – “rapacious, ravenous, an extortion, a robber” “wolves” – “metaph. of cruel, greedy, rapacious, destructive men” The door to salvation is simple, not gilded in the gold money can buy, but clothed in the rich glory of God. 2 Cor 11:3,4; Rev 21:1-3,14-27
  13. This brochure is so disturbing. Perhaps it's all the happy and "peaceful" looks on everyone's faces, influencing JWs that giving to the organization brings contentment. “Do not make any gods to be alongside Me; do not make for yourselves gods of silver or gods of gold”. Exod 20:23 (Put another way: “do not make a god called “Jehovah’s organization” that is built with your silver and gold) It begins with this scripture: "Honor Jehovah with your valuable things." - Proverbs 3:9 Is it still true that congregations are growing at a remarkable rate at the same time they’re being consolidated? It sounds like a revision is in order for this brochure. "Beyond giving of themselves in the preaching and teaching work, all are privileged to support it through monetary donations. Doing so is most fitting, for it is vital that this Christian work continue." It is very sad and hypocritical that the governing body interprets Prov 3:9 as God requiring material possessions when the chapter is about obtaining wisdom from God - truth in Christ, the Logos. John 1:1 The governing body’s thinking is debased, earthly; not spiritual, but devoid of what the Holy Spirit can teach us. Phil 3:18,19 They reflect the covetous desires of the world. Gal 5:16-17 Really, JWs, is this how Jesus taught his followers? Did he say, sell all your belongings and give all those valuables to the rulers of the temple? He actually chastised them about making his Father’s house a “marketplace”. John 2:16 Interestingly NPR has a program called, “Marketplace” broadcasting the trends in the global economy to help you make the “smartest decisions”, which appears to be the purpose of the brochure above. The Watchtower wants YOU to invest your money in the latest “trend” to be offered in the last days; an earthly organization that promises spiritual paradise, peace and prosperity, as a high return. But, is this the smart decision that Jesus expects us to make? 1 Thess 5:3 "Of course, the sources of such donations varied. In the first century, some Christians sold items that they owned, such as fields or houses, and brought the money to the apostles. The apostles distributed these funds to those in need. (Acts 4:34, 35) Others set aside money and gave regular donations to support the work. Thus, people of all walks of life—from the very wealthy to the very poor—had a share.—Luke 21:1-4. w18.01 18 ¶7; 19 ¶9 I am wondering, what does the Watchtower mean by supporting the work, since the scripture in Luke 21 has nothing to do with Christ’s preaching work, but everything to do with money going into the temple treasury, the temple that he replaced with his body. John 2:19,21 Nothing that the organization does today imitates the “work” of the apostles who preached in truth. For it pleased those from Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor among the saints who are in Jerusalem. Rom 15:26 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing. 1 Cor 13:3 They desired only that we should remember the poor, the very thing which I also was eager to do. Gal 2:10 Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever. 1 Tim 5:8 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” Matt 19:21 I do hope JWs don’t believe they can “buy” eternal life in the Kingdom by relinquishing their material goods to a voracious Beast; and “investing” oneself to an organization that promises salvation. Micah 6:11,12; Rev 13:1,4 “The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field, that a man found andconcealed, and in his joy he goes and sells everything that he has and buys that field. “Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant searching for fine pearls. 46 And when hefound one very valuable pearl, he went andsold everything that he possessed and purchased it. Matt 13:44-46 “Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; 20 but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. Matt 6:19-21 Christ’s and the apostles teachings are still FREE, at least that is the message given to people in the “preaching work”– until one steps into the organization, where “treasures on earth” take precedence over treasures in heaven. Prov 3:9: “Honor the Lord with your possessions, (wealth, riches, substance) And with the firstfruits of all your increase; 10 So your barns will be filled with plenty, And your vats will overflow with new wine.” This speaks of God’s “special possession”, the “firstfruits” of God’s children, that must sacrifice their lives as His faithful priests, 'buying' from Christ refined gold filling the heart with the treasure of truth, of wisdom; bringing honor to their Lord. Deut 26:2,4; 2 Pet 2:4,5,9; Rom 8:23; James 1:18; Rom 11:33; 1 Cor 1:4-9 Paul told the anointed firstfruits, “Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? 20 For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God with your body.” 1 Cor 20:19 “I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire, that you may be rich; and white garments, that you may be clothed, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see.” Rev 3:18 I will bring the one-third through the fire, Will refine them as silver is refined, And test them as gold is tested. They will call on My name, And I will answer them. I will say, ‘This is My people’; And each one will say, ‘The Lord is my God.’ ” Zech 13:9 They are the Temple/dwelling of God and Christ, where Holy Spirit, symbolized by wine, will flow freely imparting the wisdom of life to all in the Kingdom. John 2:3-11 God is not interested in building man’s “temple” with a monetary system that thrives in Satan’s world. This is a dream of men which has corrupted truth with its changing lies. 2 Thess 2:9-12 He encourages all of us to become rich in the teachings of Christ that leads to eternal life. Christ’s “living water” flows through the sealed “firstfruits”, “trees” bearing fruit in all seasons “for the healing of the nations” of mankind in the Kingdom. John 4:10;7:38; Ezek 47:6,7,12; Ps 104:16; Isa 44:1-5; Zech 4:11,14; Rev 11:4; 22:1,2; Matt 7:16-20 All will become filled with the water that provides life. The “big trees of righteousness” that Stephen Lett called all JWs during the 2018 Annual Meeting, applies to those chosen to serve in the Temple/Holy City. Their “fruit”, filled with living water/wine/wisdom/Holy Spirit provides the knowledge of God to all His children. THIS is what the Kingdom is about, not living in a big beautiful house with a garden, although God’s faithful children will lovingly have their needs well taken care of; it’s about knowing the Father and His Son, and living by the Word. Micah 4:2 Wisdom has built her house, She has hewn out her seven pillars; 2 She has slaughtered her meat, She has mixed her wine, She has also furnished her table. 3 She has sent out her maidens, She cries out from the highest places of the city, 4 “Whoever is simple, let him turn in here!” As for him who lacks understanding, she says to him, 5 “Come, eat of my bread And drink of the wine I have mixed. 6 Forsake foolishness and live, And go in the way of understanding. Prov 9:106 Wisdom is the fulfilled New Covenant, the dwelling place of God, built on the foundation of the apostles and the prophets - built on the Body of Christ. 1 Cor 3:16; 2 Cor 6:16; Eph 2:20; Rev 5:6-10; 3:12 And the Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And the one who hears, let him say, “Come!” And the one who is thirsty, let him come. The one who wants, let him take the water of life freely. Rev 22:17 By reading further in Prov 3:9 we are assured that honoring God with material possessions is not at all what the scripture is teaching us. Happy is the man who finds wisdom, And the man who gains understanding; 14 For her proceeds are better than the profits of silver, And her gain than fine gold. 15 She is more precious than rubies, And all the things you may desire cannot compare with her. 16 Length of days is in her right hand, In her left hand riches and honor. 17 Her ways are ways of pleasantness, And all her paths are peace. 18 She is a tree of life to those who take hold of her, And happy are all who retain her. The days of building temples with material goods are done. We have a Temple already being built with living stones on the anointed Body of Christ – built with the riches of wisdom of truth, bought from Christ once turning away from the WT idol. 1 Pet 2:5,9 We give back to God through our devoted worship and sacrifices of praise. Eph 2:20-22; 2 Thess 2:13,14; Luke 7:35; 1 Cor 1:24; Rev 5:11,12 Listen, my dear brothers and sisters: Has not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be rich in faith and to inherit the kingdom he promised those who love him? James 2:5
  14. There’s a guy I’ve heard about that wants to build a big wall to keep the undesirables out. He’s changed the design a few times, even the cost to build it. He’s been caught lying about his plans, including who will foot the bill. Even at the inconvenient sacrifices of thousands, he still doggedly pursues his goal to procure enough money to build his wall. It all sounds very familiar to me. How much does it cost to build a wall of fabricated stories? Apparently, a LOT. Ezek 13-1-23

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