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  1. And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him. 26 But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man. Acts 10:25,26 "Everything is yours" - every gift within the Body is a benefit to each member..."There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit distributes them. There are different kinds of service, but the same Lord. There are different kinds of working, but in all of them and in everyone each one, just as he determines. All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he distributes them to each one, just as he determines." 1 Cor 12:4,6,11
  2. This is as far as read. You continue to be so blind! "Empty speeches" are foundation of your organization. As an example, "Millions Now Living Will Never Die"
  3. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God, since it is written, He catches the wise in their craftiness 1 Cor 3:19 In this case, Paul is speaking of “wisdom” of the “crafty” religious leaders; as an example, the Pharisees who misled the people with their “worldly” wisdom added to the law. For whenever someone says, “I belong to Paul,” and another, “I belong to Apollos,” are you not acting like mere humans? What then is Apollos? What is Paul? They are servants through whom you believed, and each has the role the Lord has given. 6 I planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the growth. 7 So then neither the one who plants nor the one who waters is anything, but only God who gives the growth. He refers to God’s spiritual House/Temple in the anointed ones. 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22 Of course, within the Watchtower are those who believe they are “wise” and have labeled themselves before Christ has returned, as “faithful and discreet”, and all eyes fall on the GB to lead them. It is so blatantly seen by some on this forum. Paul says that each member of the body is just as precious as the other, in their apportioned roles. Rom 12:3-8 This is not the case in the WT. The GB and their role, is the only role to acknowledge. Matt 24:48-51 “Let no one deceive himself. If anyone among you thinks he is wise in this age, let him become a fool so that he can become wise. 19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God, since it is written, He catches the wise in their craftiness; 20 and again, The Lord knows that the reasonings of the wise are futile. 21 So let no one boast in human leaders, for everything is yours— 22 whether Paul or Apollos or Cephas or the world or life or death or things present or things to come—everything is yours, 23 and you belong to Christ, and Christ belongs to God. He is saying that within this anointed Body, their only Head is Jesus Christ. Eph 4:15 However, all JWs “boast” in their human leaders. They must, or they are threatened with disfellowshipping, by the employment of craftiness. Rev 13: 11,15 JWs are totally immersed in the “wisdom of this world” that their human leaders provide for them. They have become “fools” for following this wisdom. It is not too late to become wise, according to the teachings of Christ. Proverbs chapter 4
  4. This is to all JWs. Wouldn’t God expect a product of real truth from his anointed ones? IF they remain in Christ, Jesus promised he would send the Helper who would tell them, “all things”, which would be truth. What sort of “things” has the GB passed on to its followers? John 14:26 “Beliefs Clarified”. “I am the vine; you are the branches. The one who remains in Me and I in him produces much fruit, because you can do nothing without Me. John 15:5 Which means, without remaining in Christ, they cannot produce lasting fruit or teachings. Without remaining in Christ, their teachings rot and need replacing. Matt 7:17-20 This is the spiritual scene in the exalted “Jehovah’s organization”, where the leaders suppress the knowledge of Christ and heighten the “knowledge” of 8 men. When the nation of Israel did not follow the straight line God laid out for them, but wandered from, or rebelled against God’s decrees, choosing to exalt their idols over God, they suffered; and not with just a slap on the hand. God removed His protection and lives were lost. That was history in the making. “Now these things became our examples, to the intent that we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted. 7 And do not become idolaters as were some of them. As it is written, “The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.” 8 Nor let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them did, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell; 9 nor let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed by serpents; 10 nor complain, as some of them also complained, and were destroyed by the destroyer. 11 Now all these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come. 1 Cor 10:6-11 Of course, you are somewhat jesting, but it is sad to say such things about the Almighty God, which lessens how important it is for all of us to adhere to His Word in Christ, and not those of men who stumble over their own lips. Ps chapter 12, ends with, “and what is worthless ("vile", such as rotten fruit) is exalted by the human race”. The organization has the nerve to exalt their blunders - Beliefs Clarified, which is mind boggling. I believe you are delusional, not alert to the history of God’s people when they fall into sin, or listen to lies. Discarded teachings are lies, present teachings are lies. Anymore, there are few of your teachings that are truth. Rev 16:13,14 The organization’s entire existence is sin against Christ. It challenges his word and his priesthood, with the words of men and their counterfeit priesthood. It fulfills prophesy as the “man of lawlessness” that blasphemes God’s sanctuary/temple in the anointed ones. Rev 13:1,2,10,18 Remember, they are told not to meet or study the Bible together. They are threatened and restrained from any independent movement to pursue Truth on their own without risking all that encompasses their “life” in the organization. Rev 13:15 Thus says the LORD of hosts, "Do not listen to the words of the prophets who are prophesying to you They are leading you into futility; They speak a vision of their own imagination, Not from the mouth of the LORD. Jer 23:16 There are so many examples of WT leaders speaking “a vision of their own imagination”, and yet JWs keep listening to them. We don’t “take what is offered”, but listen to Christ who said we would know those whom he would send, by their “fruit”, that would last. Do JWs hear those words from the Bible? WHO’S WORDS ARE MORE IMPORTANT, THE GB’S? OR THOSE OF CHRIST? Satan presented to Eve a “nourishing food” which contradicted the Word of God. That lie/food brought death to her and Adam, and her seed. Any teaching that obviously has been proven not to be from God, brings the same death upon those who create it and those who ingest it and call it truth! Deut 18:19-22 There is nothing illuminating or life-giving about it, but it holds an artificial light which Satan is fully capable of producing. 2 Cor 11:13-15 Any group of leaders who do this year after year consistently, did not radiate the light of Christ from day one, no matter what they use to convince you of it. It is all…a delusion prophesied to occur during the last days, that grabs hold of the anointed ones and their companions. The delusion effectively covers over the presence of the “man of lawlessness”, which is the organization, where the unsealed anointed are not safe under the elder “Gentile” Body. Matt 24:15; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1-3; 13:1,2,7; 9:1-4 Your words “to learn to yield, cooperate, and get along with each other”, obviously originate with WT’s leaders. Even swine wallowing in the mud can get along with each other. However, to be Christ-like means to stand up for his pure word, separating ourselves from the historical muck of lies, even if we are persecuted for it. Isa 52:11; Matt 5:10 2 Thess 2:9-12: “This man (man of lawlessness) will come to do the work of Satan with counterfeit power and signs and miracles. 10 He will use every kind of evil deception to fool those on their way to destruction, because they refuse to love and accept the truth that would save them. 11 So God will cause them to be greatly deceived, and they will believe these lies. 12 Then they will be condemned for enjoying evil *rather than believing the truth.” *This isn't WT's version of truth, but that of Christ's. Do JWs enjoy being fools? As the saying goes, 'fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me’. Sadly, the majority apparently have no shame. Dead flies make a perfumer’s oil ferment and stink; so a little folly outweighs wisdom and honor. 2 A wise man’s heart goes to the right, but a fool’s heart to the left. 3 Even when the fool walks along the road, his heart lacks sense, and he shows everyone he is a fool. 5 There is an evil I have seen under the sun, an error proceeding from the presence of the ruler: 6 The fool is appointed to great heights, (GB) but the rich remain in lowly positions. (the rest of the anointed under its rule) 7 I have seen slaves on horses, but princes walking on the ground like slaves. (the trampling of God’s temple by a false priesthood who rules over the royal priesthood/Temple of God. 1 Cor 3:16,17; Rev 11:1-3 They are the true princes under the Prince/King of Peace, not the elder body – Isa 9:6; Dan 12:1; Isa 49:24,25; Rev 19:16; 3:21; 5:9,10 ) 12 The words from the mouth of a wise man are gracious, but the lips of a fool consume him. 13 The beginning of the words of his mouth is folly, but the end of his speaking is evil madness. (example, the evolution of “this generation”) 14 Yet the fool multiplies words. No one knows what will happen, and who can tell anyone what will happen after him? Eccl chapter10 The Bible is full of the admonition to seek the wisdom of God. Why would we settle for the folly of a fool? A scoffer seeks wisdom and does not find it, but knowledge is easy to him who understands. Go from the presence of a foolish man, when you do not perceive in him the lips of knowledge. The wisdom of the prudent is to understand his way, but the folly of fools is deceit. Fools mock at sin, but among the upright there is favor. Prov 14:6-9 And yes, Jesus desires us to become, “perfect”, by listening to his wisdom. Matt 5:48 It is only men who continually remind you how imperfect you are, capturing you in a spiritual time capsule, and away from the wisdom of the Christ, that halts one’s growth to maturity in the Truth. Rev 3:18 These men promise you perfection after Armageddon, when Christ promises it now. John 6:27 Of interest, "The Throne of Satan", 4womaninthewilderness Pearl Doxsey
  5. Since when would truth coming from God through Christ, which is spiritual food that imparts eternal life…have a “shelf life”? John 14:6 “You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you so that you might go and bear fruit—fruit that will last—and so that whatever you ask in my name the Father will give you.” John 15:16 What is received from God regarding spiritual knowledge is a “gift”. “Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and comes down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow of turning.” James 1:17 The “fruit” produced by the apostles has lasted. The teachings by all faithful anointed since, would be based on this lasting fruit. The opening of the scrolls of Revelation is the culmination of this lasting fruit; enhanced, with nothing previously known to be discarded. Yes, Watchtower’s spiritual food apparently has a shelf life, which is what JWs are accustom to. If we apply the knowledge Christ gave us in the scriptures, we then realize… 1. The GB members are not appointed by God and Christ 2. Which makes them false “christs”/prophets 3. Who have deceived the “elect” in the last days. Matt 24:24 If you believe that spiritual food was meant to have a temporary shelf life, then you are calling both God and Christ, liars. Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’” Matt 4:4 I would hope some JW would consider these scriptures the next time they hear that "Jehovah" is providing nourishing spiritual food through the "faithful and discreet slave".
  6. 1 Pet 2:5,9; 2 Cor 11:2-4; Rev 13:13,14; 20:7-10
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  7. I stand corrected. What you say is true. They do say, no publications are to be posted on social media. Call me a pure loon, but I'm not one who needs a white board to explain "this generation".
  8. And why would they explicitly state not to use social media? What are they AFRAID of? Losing their members? FB is huge with every belief possible at one's fingertips. How does the GB know what's happening on FB if they weren't paying attention themselves? These men are running scared. They do NOT have your best interests in mind by saying stay away from social media where possible truth will be found, but they are..."scoundrels" at heart. A fool will no longer be called a noble, nor a scoundrel said to be important. 6 For a fool speaks foolishness and his mind plots iniquity. He lives in a godless way and speaks falsely about the Lord. He leaves the hungry empty and deprives the thirsty of drink. 7 The scoundrel’s weapons are destructive; he hatches plots to destroy the needy with lies, even when the poor person says what is right. Isa 32:5-7
  9. My goodness. You trust these men with your very life! Do you believe everything the tell you is TRUE? Yes, they said, do not use social media. They also said, the generation of 1914 would not pass away. They also gave you a new recipe for “this generation”. Do you believe it? Do you have your doubts? WHY would you believe they are not using their facebook shares toward their own advantage? They certainly did with Goldman Sachs. If you search through the tax returns, you will see Goldman Sachs listed. A few years back they were on the membership roster attending a global conference by Goldman Sachs, getting the best worldly advice on how to invest their money. I believe they certainly did use their acquaintance through shares in Lionsgate and Disney. Proof is in their new constructed building, dedicated to producing movies and videos. These men are not gods; but simply, men who do what they can in this system, to keep their organization up and running. They are investors, plain and simple. If they were totally against social media, you would think they would dump all shares in facebook.
  10. About which part, Anna? You wouldn't believe me anyway. I should correct my use of “own”, with, they reap the benefits of Henrietta Riley Trust that works for the “General Support” of the Watchtower. It has been presented to them on a platter. You would be amazed at what “apostates” find, and what Watchtower quickly follows to cover up.
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    This organization benefits from the trust. It would be naïve to believe they have no input in the trust fund's movements. They also have attended and invested in global hedge funds. 2017 tax return is not included, for some odd reason.
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    And yes, many JWs "preach" on facebook. I'm sure they count their hours doing so. I don't know what the big deal is about believing Lett has a page on facebook. Watchtower benefits from facebook stock. How easily they accept the commercial world and its beneficial assets, just as easily as they shun someone who rejects the organization. Such hypocrisy.
  11. Yes, the same company WT owns shares in, where thousands of JWs preach on the organization's behalf, with many joining M. Stephen Lett's personal page. The more shares WT can buy up, the more influence it will wield over that social media. They are practicing damage control all over the internet, shutting down as many "apostates" they can. Now, if they really possessed truth and God's Spirit, why worry what anyone would say about them, or against them? Jesus didn't. John 18:36 But, there's is an earthly kingdom, existing with the help of another spirit. 2 Cor 11:4; Rev 13:1,2 As much as I dislike FB, it is an effective way to establish a battle post of truth, against Watchtower lies. (Dan 11:33-35) And, my "face" is not on there. I'll keep WT guessing. Only God's Word is to be elevated, yet jw dot org, is apparently Watchtower's god of the internet, calling "new light", "present truth"...until their own damage control kicks in, with more "new light". My, they have so much on their plate to keep up with. ReplyForward
  12. The answer to your feelings about 1914? I have not followed your conversations on 1914. If the answer is in this sentence: ...then I'll just guess the answer. Did you? Our conversation under “The Chief Cornerstone”, ended this way: Tom: "The point is, that after a single year as a Witness, you become convinced of your anointing, with all its implications that you will be a messenger to everyone else, as well as a future (and in some respects present) king and priest." I answered: “Oh Tom. When you get this part of the story right I'll continue to answer your comments. “ You really only “heard” about a third of what I had told you during our entire conversation, but I didn't call you a ridiculous man. I never said it as you stated it, which makes me think your attention span for a writer, appears to be very short. Here's the link if you want to verify what I did say. What is that phrase, "in your dreams?" I think you were listening to BTK too much on that subject. Although, it is my dream that all JWs would just pack up and leave the WT. And, elders who have stolen the priesthood from God's chosen people, (1 Pet 2:5,9) and who have been given authority by your GB to disfellowship them if they speak against one of their false teachings, or the existence of the organization itself,...is not an act of hate. Is that what you are saying? By falling from God's grace and listening to another spirit. 2 Pet 3:17; Rev 8:10,11; Rev 13:11 Did I say that? Could you pinpoint it for me? I have no clue what the number of anointed are in the organization. If you are meaning the "144,000", that number is symbolic. I directed you to a facebook site, which is one outlet of "preaching" to "Israel", the anointed ones. Matt 10:23 You prefer the organization, your stronghold and mountain...to worship through. John 4: 21,23,24 You prefer to see men organized to accomplish what you believe is God's will. The true preaching work is accomplished by God's choice (Rev 11:1-3) and done according to God's way, (Zech 4:6,7) not by men who "go down to Egypt" to rescue them when they get in dire straits with the nations. Isa chapter 31 If you have proof that I "don't actually do anything" before God, please tell me. I don't work for men and their expensive vision, but only for the Father and Jesus Christ. I would never say that. God has one "organization" as brought out in the beginning post. You, along with most JWs cannot see it, although its true members reside with you.
  13. Oh yes, there are many threads on 1914, but we two have come to a standstill. I don't feel like hunting down your opinion any more than you wanted to hunt down the truth about myself. So, I leave the question with you. And this one, as well: Do you see that the organization fulfills the role of the "man of lawlessness" and the environment around its existence, revealed in 2 Thess chapter 2, and I'll add Rev chapter 13?
  14. Tom, how do you feel about 1914? Do you realize your message is intertwined around that date? Are you spreading the truth about God Kingdom to come, or a lie? You believe the "day of the Lord" began in 1914, or do you? The organization's leaders keep teaching it...as truth. However, we know many of the higher-ups wanted to drop it over the years. Yet, it's still there, dangling as a weak backbone, struggling to support your message. Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God. 2 Thess 2:3-4 Your elders have set themselves up in God's Temple, (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17), as a priesthood, proclaiming to be chosen by God's Holy Spirit. THEY and the GB, are responsible for the message you preach concerning the prophesy of the "day of the Lord" as come in 1914. Do you see that the organization fulfills this scripture?
  15. They are not short, but shorter than the above post. Maybe that fits the requirement. The WT leaders have been cunning in revealing bits of truth over the years, but washing it clean away, with fresh lies. I am referring to Habakkuk, his prophesy and the article I read, which I pointed out that the article doesn’t mention its fulfillment now. In fact, all the prophets spoke of the Christ, and of the end times. And what the prophets proclaimed to God’s people during their time period, rings true today. They are in harmony with Jesus’ words that are directed to the “elect” – the anointed ones. Matt 24:24 God’s people haven’t escaped sin, but are wallowing in it. It is naïve to think that an earthly organization that runs on Satanic fuel, (any and all resources available in this world) would bring protection to a people; when no other earthly organization in this world can do so. It is a concoction from the minds of men, beginning in the 1940’s. Relying on it as a protection and way to salvation, is relying on an idol. It is what the fingers of men have made. Isa 2:8 The apostles didn’t rely on an organization; no anointed one up until the early 1900's relied on an organization to preach and worship as Christ said it was to occur, in John 4:21-24. Several times in the past God’s people claimed to worship Him, yet they also worshiped their idols, as do JWs today – “Jehovah and his organization”. However, many are aware of its problems. Believing that God will fix what is broken is a misconception, but many JWs wholeheartedly are convinced of this, by their leaders. Hos 8:1-6 God didn’t fix what was broken in the past, but removed His Holy Spirit, allowing them to suffer for their actions. Before doing so, He sent His prophets to warn them of what was to come upon them. He offered them His protection. Those that may have suffered but returned to the Father, He restored. Always, it was the few who did so. There is one last prophetic message to God’s people before the Kingdom arrives. That is, to leave idolatry and the ignorance of God’s laws behind. It is, the awareness of the oppression and transgression of His people (the Temple of God, 1 Cor 3:16,17) under a “Gentile” rule, the elder body. 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1-3 The book of Revelation brings prophesies from all the books of the Bible together as a finished puzzle, revealing this last surge of deception on the “woman” New Covenant members, and their falling into sin because of it. Rev 12:15 This time, its appearance is not one easily detected, as perhaps one would look at a religion with obvious idols, and who do not follow the laws of God. This time, it appears as “truth”, and the accomplishment of a great preaching work. 2 Thess 2:9-12 Yet, the violence (Hab 1:2-4) and obvious betrayal of God’s decrees that otherwise might be apparent in the past, are now cloaked under falsehoods spoken with a smooth tongue. Prov 5:3 It is a captivity that Revelations speaks of, (Rev 13:10; Col 2:8) and a “conquering” of the anointed ones under a powerful rule that is directed by a false prophet – a “Hartlot”. The organization deflects the meaning of Revelation to “Christendom” when it is pasted all over within it, evidence that God’s people are under a spiritual captivity to a Beast and a false prophet. Rev 13:1,11; 20:7-9 God is warning His people, His potential “kings and priests of the earth”, (1 Pet 2:5,9; Rev 1:5; 5:9,10) and all of those with them, to “come out”. Rev 18:4-8 His chosen people are not in Christendom, but are the “saints” gathered in the organization, where speaking against falsehoods causes them and their companions to be disfellowshipped, thrown out of the congregation and considered, dead. John 16:2; Rev 13:5-7,15 It is prophesy being fulfilled. That really is the bottom line. 1 Cor 10:12-14 The organization is not a lifeline to salvation, but a created idol. God and Jesus Christ are, and always have been, our source of salvation. Acts 4:12
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