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Wow! You've been hanging around here too long. Go back to basics and relearn scripture. NIV Acts 6:1-5 6 In those days when the number of disciples was increasing, the Grecian Jews among them complained against the Hebraic Jews because their widows were being overlooked in the daily distribution of food. 2 So the Twelve gathered all the disciples together and said, "It would not be right for us to neglect the ministry of the word of God in order to wait on tables. 3 Brothers, choose seven men from among you who are known to be full of the Spirit and wisdom. We will turn this responsibility over to them 4 and will give our attention to prayer and the ministry of the word." 5 This proposal pleased the whole group.

Is that how it worked for you? 😂

Ask God? Don't interpret scripture like those obtuse people like, @Pudgy and @Kick_Faceinator even though that fool should know, I already know who he is. 😂 Once again, you challenge God. This will be the last time I'm posting this. I hope you don't take it the wrong way, But, I hope never to be near you. 😥 Since you are refusing to see the difference between a judicial committee and a secular branch of office, for, all I care, anyone can listen in, argue, and make unfounded allegations, lie, cheat, to that secular office. They just need to be wise, since a false police report carries consequences. Lying to the police carries consequences. Make a false allegation is punishable. I'm not saying the others aren't, it just depends on the level of that deception. For instance, If @Patiently waiting for Truth went to a police station with "hearsay" evidence and added more ignorance to that report, the Watchtower has the right to see him imprisoned for being a fool. Now I'm not saying if the Watchtower really wanted to into his obtuse post, they have enough to send him to jail right now with his accusations and threats. Will @Pudgy, @Witness have the ability to defend him? But, you should ask @Pudgy how the secular process works. Ask him how many times he tried to falsify make claims in order for the secular authority, wouldn't take his computer. God prefers the truth.

Possibly, but what does that have to do with @Patiently waiting for Truth, dealing with his deception and word twisting the way you are doing? Well, that's your, @Patiently waiting for Truth, @Space Merchant, and @Witness interpretation of scripture. Like I said, I don't bother with such misrepresentations of scripture. You should know by now, I call out "all" false assertions coming from either, JWs, ExJWs and none JWs. Don't you read the hilarious comments about me by @Thinking, @TrueTomHarley and others, that want me banned? They can't stand a person telling the truth, here. Where were you when @Space Merchant made a bad mistake by, calling me misguided where he was set in his place, even though he thinks he won a factitious debate.

Anyone that follows Christ instructions and obeys God's commands can find a real Christian order. Those that do the same, are in unison with Christ.

So, you're telling God how to think now! I believe you just answered your own question about being in a sinful state of mind. The word imperfection is synonymous with SIN. All the human race is imperfect (sinful). Besides Jesus; give another example of a perfect human being? Therefore. @Arauna should clarify her commentary, or did just do it.

Wow! So, you're looking for specific words now, in order for you to believe! What do you think about the context and intent are with the words "righteous" and "unrighteous" mean?

That's funny since the ARC said the same thing. Maybe you just forgot where you got the idea from. Age does that to the elderly. Let's not make about me, since you are the one making false accusations about that institution. I have compassion for True Christians. I don't bother with fake ones or apostates. Ephesians 5:6-9 New Century Version 6 Do not let anyone fool you by telling you things that are not true, because these things will bring God’s anger on those who do not obey him. 7 So have nothing to do with them. 8 In the past you were full of darkness, but now you are full of light in the Lord. So live like children who belong to the light. 9 Light brings every kind of goodness, right living, and truth.

Yeah, there are several. Didn't you state you visit Facebook? You should look them up and join. https://www.facebook.com/BrotherPoohBear/ http://www.evidenceministries.org/jehovahs-witnesses/jw-support-group/ https://www.4jehovah.org/how-can-i-as-an-ex-jehovahs-witness-find-a-place-to-worship-outside-of-the-watchtower/ You and @Witness would make a perfect addition to your apostate friends.

Let's be honest with a none, JW. This is a false take on your commentary. We both know why you criticize Russell and the Bible Students. You made your past comments about the Pastor a major topic that it even made it to the apostate site AD1914. So, don't try to wiggle your way out by blaming me. JWINSIDER #001: ALL aspects of 1914 doctrine are now problematic from a Scriptural point of view This site now has permission to reprint various postings and articles from JWFacts, JWStudies, JWInsider, and several others. However, I wouldn't praise your Bible Student connection. He's about as useless as B. W. Schulz

Then, how is this not correct? Where are these so called 10 men that you would follow? Are you suggesting those that are selected by God don't have your approval? That's quite a challenge. 😏 So, you think the churches of this institution should be separate like the Unitarians that you thought it was funny, with your emoji. You should reread Paul's letters to the churches when they stopped listening to God, and had become independent? A reason why Rutherford decided to return the unity in our institution? How is the great commission, irrelevant? Have you heard of a little thing called communication? How does the Vatican know what's going on within their churches? So, you don't think Jesus is the head of his church through the Watchtower. Can you explain this?

Come! Come! Now, your slip is showing. 😉 Let's not compare your personal feelings; it doesn't make for a justifiable argument as a former JW full of bitterness and deception.😏

Oh! Taken out of the ARC playbook, how quaint! But, I guess you missed the point; that hypocritical court was implying, they want the Watchtower to give women the authority of an Elder to "interrogate" the children or women, themselves. In other words, the ARC is suggesting the Watchtower go against God's inspired word in those situations. Funny, when it comes to the Australian government policing themselves by making whistleblowing a crime, such as it did with their immigration detention centers, the ARC court had no problem with it. 😏

How does his false claims and manipulation help people? I have to disagree with your insinuation here. 😏

This is why I don't support people, including @JW Insider, and any other JW when it comes to false claims that lead to deception. I also have a True Bible Student as an acquaintance that is well versed in the Bible Student History. I'd say he has better knowledge than others, but he refuses to publish. As he stated, that's not part of God's plan, publishing spiritual food is. That should give sad people like @TrueTomHarley a clue.

No, but you do promote there should be no leaders, or that everyone should be their own leader, like @Witness? Just like she confuses the word "oneness" so do you. 😏

Why don't you ask your friend @Pudgy? He has personal experience with such matters. On the latter, the ones that are disgraced worldwide are ExJWs. 😁 You and witness seem to forget, JWs are the most persecuted earth wide; a complement to the apostles and Christ.

This doesn't mean Pastor Russell wasn't spirit led. He didn't claim to the "faithful and Wise servant" even though some within his ranks suggested he agreed to it in private. I don't personally bother with "hearsay" to promote an understanding like @JW Insider used to. I refuse to subscribe to deception. This is the confusion I'm talking about that needs clarification. You and witness have a difference of opinion that none of you are particularly correct.

You just made my day, with this hilarious comment, just because the Jews were freed, and WW 1 started in that specific year, in 1914. I guess you don't have a clue on what it means to be spirit led. 🤣 It's sad that you refute Christ Kingship. 😪 *** w10 9/15 p. 25 par. 16 “Your Leader Is One, the Christ” *** But Jesus himself indicated that this work would continue into the time of the end. After commissioning his followers to preach and to make disciples among all the nations, Jesus promised them: “I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.” (Matt. 28:19, 20) Since being invested with kingly power in 1914, Christ is more than ever “with” his disciples and active as their Leader. *** w13 7/15 pp. 24-25 pars. 17-18 “Who Really Is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?” *** What do “all [Jesus’] belongings” include? Jesus did not qualify the word “all,” as if to limit his belongings to earthly things. In fact, Jesus has vast heavenly authority. “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth,” he said. (Matt. 28:18; Eph. 1:20-23) His belongings now include the Messianic Kingdom, which has belonged to him since 1914 and which he will share with his anointed followers.—Rev. 11:15. 18 In view of the foregoing, what can we conclude? When Jesus comes for judgment during the great tribulation, he will find that the faithful slave has been loyally dispensing timely spiritual food to the domestics. Jesus will then delight in making the second appointment—over all his belongings. Those who make up the faithful slave will get this appointment when they receive their heavenly reward, becoming corulers with Christ. What kind of Christian are you to deny the Kingdom of God to others? Better yet, who are you to judge the anointed within the body of Christ?

Agree, however, in our institution, there is no such thing. Unity in Christ is appliable by Christ instruction and God's command. Therefore, there are no divisions or different churches among our ranks. Now, I'm not talking about people here that disgrace that unity and our Church. I'm referring to loyal and faithful JWs.

Well, with that, there needs to be a correct understanding of their words. So, far there hasn't been any by JWs or ExJWS here. Do you believe the anointed should be inspired by evil? How about; do you believe the anointed are perfect? That should give you a clue about the words, not inspired and infallible. However, if you believe the anointed should be perfect, then you're the only one. No one on earth, not even Jesus, had that capability. That’s why Jesus was born perfect. Healing sickness and raising the dead were miracles to prove God's power and ability. Yet, not one of those touch by miracles became perfect, or can you give me an example of a person receiving perfection (sinless state)?

How does applying scripture to disassociate with bad company, not relevant? Now, the latter is what ExJW's bring up as an excuse. There's a difference when family members reject going to a family member's birthday party or get drunk in the nearest bar. Have an adulteress affair because it’s exciting. I'd say a good percentage of ExJWs feel they have missed something out of life for being loyal to God. That's just ignorance in their part. Some seem to forget, by behaving badly, it will get them in the same amount of trouble if NOT more for their bad behavior. It's another thing, having to live with a member that has disgraced him or herself before God. That baloney of silence is exaggerated by the ranks, not reality. Now, an unrepentant soul is spiritually dead, but under whose eyes also. Who do they need to bow down and ask for forgiveness, if not in front of God, by reaching out to the church that will reestablish their good intentions before God? If one sins before the Church of Christ, then that sinner needs to be reinstated by the Church of Christ. Oneness doesn't have the same authority as you might think. Think about it. Before, it was the millions of ExJWs and now because of those ExJWs, so is the governments of this world. Russia should mean something to you. Just like in Rutherford time. The difference back then, It was the Catholic Church that did the persecution. However, I can also link many Christian denominations with that persecution, not just the Vatican. Even though Pope Francis was pretty harsh when he mentioned, the Catholic Church needed to do more about evangelizing because they were losing too many church members to that heathen church. I guess he forgot to look in the mirror that day. 😂 How is being spokesmen for God, controlling? Since they base everything on scripture, does that mean you are controlling others? How is your power to influence, different, here in this forum? Have they silenced you? Have they silenced those most harsh critics of the Watchtower? How is the Watchtower administration persecuting ExJWs? Are you confusing spirituality with government sanctions? Any institution has the right to sue for "copyright" violations. Are you suggesting the Watchtower shouldn't sue someone that gives out false impressions about the Watchtower? Where do you stand, when you believe, someone else is giving a false testimony about you? When ExJWs are giving out, false interpretation about bible understanding, are you suggesting a True Christian should ignore the bible principles about false prophets? Here, I will include those that pretend to be JWs, also. I told @Arauna once she was a seasoned Chrsitain, even though her obtuse response was typical of her. Why shouldn't that be applied to you as well. To any thinking person, "seasoned" means "with knowledge."

LOL! You ought to know @Pudgy, that kid is reflected off you. 😂

So, how do you justify it with the Son of Man, and earlier when the Son of Man was not present?

Once again, how will commentators here clarify the difference between "direct" and "indirect" prophecy? There's an assumption being stated here, which is not necessarily correct. It's true, the apostles had the ability to preform miracles that no one in modern time has. Did the prophets in the OT have that same ability? Those prophets also had a direct spiritual link, just like the apostles? When the last apostle died, Couldn't a True Christian receive heavenly direction? If not why? *** nwtsty Matthew Study Notes—Chapter 18 *** will be things already bound . . . will be things already loosened: The unusual construction of the Greek verbs here (future form of “to be” combined with the perfect passive participle of “bind” and “loosen”) indicates that whatever decision was made by the disciples (“whatever things you may bind”; “whatever things you may loosen”) would be made after the corresponding decision was made in heaven. Any decision made by the disciples would follow heaven’s decision, not precede it, and the disciples would make decisions based on principles already laid down in heaven. It does not refer to heavenly support or validation of a decision made on earth. Instead, it means that the disciples would receive direction from heaven, highlighting the need for such guidance to ensure that the decisions made on earth harmonize with the decision that has already been made in heaven.—Compare study note on Mt 16:19. (Ephesians 4:11, 12) 11 And he gave some as apostles, some as prophets, some as evangelizers, some as shepherds and teachers, 12 with a view to the readjustment of the holy ones, for ministerial work, to build up the body of the Christ, EVANGELIZER A preacher of the gospel or good news; a messenger of good. The Greek eu·ag·ge·li·stesʹ (evangelizer) is closely related to the word eu·ag·geʹli·on, “good news” or “gospel.” (See GOOD NEWS; also Na 1:15, ftn; Mt 4:23, ftn.) Jehovah is the Great Evangelizer, or Bringer of good news. After Adam’s fall into sin it was good news to learn, at Genesis 3:15, that there would be a seed to crush the serpent’s head. It gave hope to humankind. (Ro 8:20) Enlarging on the promise of the seed to Abraham, Jehovah declared good news to him. (Ga 3:8