Moise Racette

3 hours ago, Witness said:

Tossing out your words without scriptural backup, absolutely means nothing.

Once again, I have to agree with you on this point, and add the entire bible to it. However, shouldn't you do the same?

Friberg, Analytical Greek Lexicon

[Fri] ἄγγελος, ου, ὁ as one sent to tell or bring a message messenger; (1) of persons messenger, envoy, one sent (MK 1.2); (2) of divine messengers and agents of God angel (LU 1.26); (3) of demonic powers as Satan's messengers (evil) angel (MT 25.41); (4) specifically in RV 1.20; 2.1, 8, 12, 18; 3.1, 7, 14 probably minister, one overseeing a group of believers under Jesus' supervision, messenger
ἄγγελος N-NM-S ἄγγελος 

Just more of Pearl Doxseys followers subjecting themselves to a false prophet. Apostates are a gullible cult.

1 hour ago, Space Merchant said:

Note sure about privileges, but the fact that this is an open forum, anything goes. This place was Controversial Posts after all.

Unfortunately, this is not the reason I posted the comment. I asked the admin to close a topic, and was ignored. Audrey told the admin to close the topic and the admin did just that. That brings up a question about privileges in my book.

You mean bullies like @Pudgy and @AnnaNana that bully the Watchtower and it's members here and elsewhere with lies, deceit, and misrepresentation. Yeah! I don't have a problem calling them out as obtuse.

I also don't have a problem showing the public here how uneducated they are not only with history but with the bible.

So, James, and Audrey, since you're related, please continue with your comedy; that's the only thing you can show the public. Why did you bring Audrey Onbaord, so you could show people how you being D'fd is unjust? Your action proves it, and that's why the Org will never reinstate you, and bringing a fool to make that argument just makes it worse.

(Titus 3:8-11)

How was Titus to handle these problem people? For one thing, he had to avoid arguing with them. Then, if they persisted in causing strife even after two admonitions (and this implies public warnings), they were to be dismissed from the fellowship. Church members who cause divisions and then take their membership to another church should be allowed to go. If they come back but manifest a repentant spirit, they should be warned and received. If they cause trouble again, they may be granted the right to transfer a second time; but if they attempt to return again, they must not be received into the fellowship. Some sympathizing but untaught saints might say, "But perhaps they have reformed this time." Paul points out in v. 11 that such people will not reform; they are "turned inside out" (subverted) and in a state of constant sin; that is, they are beyond remedy. Our local churches would have fewer divisions if pastors and officers would observe this important principle.

5. This unity will soon discover itself in co-working. It was a motto with Bucer, "To love all in whom he could see anything of the Lord Jesus." It is said of some men that they appear to have been born upon the mountains of Berber, for they do nothing but cause division; and baptized in the waters of Meribah, for they delight in causing strife. This is not the case with the genuine Christian; he cares only for the truth, for his Master, for the love of souls; and when these things are not imperilled, his own private likes or dislikes never affect him.

(C. H. Spurgeon.)

1 hour ago, AnnaNana said:

We will not abandon Jesus' clear command to stay with him. He is Our Head. We will follow the Lamb wherever he goes.

Seriously! WOW! This poster abandoned Christ since it became a scoffer, building strife, and division among the true brotherhood, and the poster has the guile to post this! 😂

Then the poster indicated the poster follows Christ. How, when the poster disobeys scripture just like @Witness

2 hours ago, AnnaNana said:

The soul who sins is the one who will die."

Yep! This is what apostates can expect with their blasphemy.

2 hours ago, AnnaNana said:

Thankfully, Jehovah is in charge of all the souls. As far as being mortal or immortal, that's something Jehovah's also going to take care of. There are some now living who will never die, and there are others who will be changed.

The person needs to REPENT first. Continual blasphemy is not repentance but condemnation. God does not change a person's soul; the person makes their own choice. Therefore, after repentance, the soul changes for the better. Accepting Christ's commands as Christ accepted God's commands through faith and obedience is the true path to that soul's salvation. Contradicting and disobeying God's word isn't.

However, get educated in such matters since a mortal and an immortal entity can die, and God will not FORCE anyone to change. It's called "free will."

So, there's a big difference between "change" and "transform" in a biblical setting.

@Pudgy, It's sad really, you think someone losing her mortal soul is funny. When Christ is judging you, keep laughing, see if he thinks it's funny. 😉

16 minutes ago, Witness said:

Where in the scriptures does Jesus say to wait inside an organization until he returns.  Where is the scripture?   

Where in scripture does it say not to congregate and remain united until Christ Returns?

1Cor. 14:40 But all things should be done decently and in order.

What is "in order" if NOT organized. Start learning scripture.

John 15:4-5 Good News Translation (GNT) 4 Remain united to me, and I will remain united to you. A branch cannot bear fruit by itself; it can do so only if it remains in the vine.

9 minutes ago, AnnaNana said:

@Witness, I can tell you have been hurt by the organization. It is obvious. 

This sympathy scenario has been tried in the past. Didn't work. Get off your sympathy rollercoaster since you have none for the members of the Watchtower or Christian knowledge. This poster contradicts itself every time a post is made.

31 minutes ago, AnnaNana said:

Mr @Moise, after you see all these things happen and you repent, they'll be a lot of work for you, too. Knowing all those scriptures like you do...once Jehovah opens your eyes you'll be able to use them to build up instead of tear down.

Who do you think appointed me? I have the full suit of armor. 

Eph. 6:11 gPut on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil.

31 minutes ago, AnnaNana said:

Paul approved of relentlessly persecuting true Christians, but when his eyes were opened he was foremost of those helping others.

I'm not persecuting Christians. This poster is not a Christian but a scoffer that is persecuting Christians.

31 minutes ago, AnnaNana said:

"I am grateful to Christ Jesus our Lord, who imparted power to me, because he considered me faithful by assigning me to a ministry,  although formerly I was a blasphemer and a persecutor and an insolent man.

Therefore, this can't be applied to this poster. A blasphemer of God's Holy Spirit.

16 minutes ago, AnnaNana said:

Some of us are in figurative "prison" as regards not being able to be reinstated until the kingdom is in place because wicked men would demand we do an act of worship to them in order to be reinstated. We will not do an act of worship to men.

Seems, this person is advocating for @Pudgy lol! The only prison is in your head. You can leave anytime you want. apostate. No one is holding you, nor need your kind. Seek fellowship with @Witness since you share many of the same views.

Both of you are crucifying Christ every time you post and condemn God's words. Both blasphemous attributes from false prophets.

38 minutes ago, Witness said:

He meant hold fast to Truth! The truth given at the time of anointing.   He didn't mean hold fast to an organization!  

You mean like the kind of organization you are a part of as an apostate?

I see you refuse to answer the question just like that spiritual infant. Don't have the courage to accept a challenge?

38 minutes ago, Witness said:

Anyone who tells JWs to REMAIN in slavery to men and their lies

Can the same thing be said about those that "remain" in slavery to Pearl Doxsey and their lies?

38 minutes ago, Witness said:

who disregards victims of their own faulty, corrupt leadership; who threatens them by saying they have blood on their hands if they don’t get out in service and share their lies about 1914, “this generation”, the thousand year reign of Christ, about Christ himself, and avoid the scriptures that teach exactly where the man of lawlessness is found…anyone who encourages JWs to sit in apathy, in a false sense of peace and security, (1 Thess 5:3) has only evil intentions to keep JWs captive in bondage and blindness, and away from the full light of Christ.   

You mean, people just like yourself? People that don't accept scripture and are leading God's creation astray with lies, and corrupt leadership like Pearl Doxsey?

• Every day, in the temple courts and from house to house, they did not stop teaching and proclaiming the good news that Jesus is the Christ. Acts 10:36 He has sent this message to the people of Israel, proclaiming the gospel of peace through Jesus Christ, who is Lord of all.

So, who is doing the "threatening" apostate? Your kind of substandard human beings that subvert scripture by misinterpretation.

More meaningless drivel from a spiritual infant that can't answer 1 question.

In case someone wants to argue the word "discreet." 

Adjective discreet - /dɪskɹˈit/ 1 Marked by prudence or modesty and wise self-restraint

Therefore, Discreet slave, and Wise servant mean the same thing.

1 hour ago, AnnaNana said:

We reject false teachings. We reject the 1914 doctrine, the disfellowshipping antichrist teaching, the "Faithful and Discreet Slave" title, etc. 

Whose, we, apostates? Yes, you do agree. ☺️

Psa. 1:1 Blessed is the man1 who walks not in the counsel of the wicked, nor stands in the way of sinners, nor sits in the seat of scoffers.

Prov. 1:22 “How long, O simple ones, will you love being simple? How long will scoffers delight in their scoffing and fools hate knowledge?

Prov. 19:29 Condemnation is ready for scoffers, and beating for the backs of fools.

People also notice how apostates refuse to accept scripture.

ASV  Matthew 24:45 Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath set over his household, to give them their food in due season?

CSB  Matthew 24:45 "Who then is a faithful and sensible slave, whom his master has put in charge of his household, to give them food at the proper time?

ESV  Matthew 24:45 "Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom his master has set over his household, to give them their food at the proper time?

KJV  Matthew 24:45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?

NAS  Matthew 24:45 "Who then is the faithful and sensible slave whom his master put in charge of his household to give them their food at the proper time?

NLT  Matthew 24:45 "A faithful, sensible servant is one to whom the master can give the responsibility of managing his other household servants and feeding them.

BGT  Matthew 24:45 Τίς ἄρα ἐστὶν ὁ πιστὸς δοῦλος καὶ φρόνιμος ὃν κατέστησεν ὁ κύριος ἐπὶ τῆς οἰκετείας αὐτοῦ τοῦ δοῦναι αὐτοῖς τὴν τροφὴν ἐν καιρῷ;

Gingrich, Greek NT Lexicon (GIN)

[GING] πιστός 
πιστός, ή, όν—1. trustworthy, faithful, dependable, inspiring trust or faith Mt 25:21, 23; Lk 16:10–12; 1 Cor 1:9; 7:25; Col 4:7; 1 Ti 1:12, 15; 2 Ti 2:2, 13; Tit 3:8; Hb 2:17; 10:23; Rv 2:13.—2. trusting, cherishing faith or trust, also believing, faithful J 20:27; Ac 16:15; Gal 3:9; Eph 1:1. Of Christian believers 

(Matthew 24:45) 45 “Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time? 
 

Foolish people have the silliest arguments. You say tomato, I say tomahto. To bad those people lack knowledge.

Just now, AnnaNana said:

There is an enemy with bad seeds who also sows.

Glad the poster can identify itself! ☺️

@Witness You claim not to be part of an organization.

By definition: Organization

6 A group of people who work together

7 The persons, committees, departments or similar parties who make up a body for the purpose of administration or management

Disprove you and yours are not organized scoffers along with every apostate out there, especially those that are planning to march and protest in Washington?

Noun scoffer - /skɑfəɹ/ 1 Someone who jeers or mocks or treats something with contempt or calls out in derision.

9 minutes ago, Witness said:

I am part of a loving congregation where the teachings of Christ are esteemed and obeyed. (John 12:47)

Everyone that is a Christian is part of a congregation. That has nothing to do with secular classification of an organization for logistics. 

Roman laws were different from modern day laws, don't confuse the matter. This argument has no merit or justification. However, answer the question from John?

Then you would agree in keeping with Jesus commandment of obedience, you should accept what is written in Hebrews 13:17, right? You just stated you are obedient to Christ, why not show it.

Heb. 13:17 ¶ Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they are keeping watch over your souls, as those who will have to give an account. Let them do this with joy and not with groaning, for that would be of no advantage to you.

Come on @Pudgy disprove scripture and man's history?

Luke 21:24 They will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive among all nations, and Jerusalem will be trampled underfoot by the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

Disprove the Jewish nation was NOT released by the British and it's allies in 1914 from Palestine (Ottoman Empire)?

It's time you people start taking responsibility for your false accusations and lack of knowledge.

29 minutes ago, AnnaNana said:

Jesus said not to try to calculate the date the kingdom would begin. "It does not belong to you to know the times and seasons in the Father's jurisdiction." "No man knows the day or the hour for the kingdom to begin."

 

What does that have to do with his enthronement?  Start making sense! It's 2 different things.

31 minutes ago, AnnaNana said:

When Russell and others attempted to find the date, they were being tempted by the Devil and disobedient to Jesus.

False, Russell didn't attempt to call on a God's Judgment Day, only fools and apostates believe that.

Apostates are the true works of the devil.

33 minutes ago, AnnaNana said:

Jannes and Jambres called for frogs and there were more frogs. Russell said "1914!" and there was 1914. Satan is the ruler of the world and he can make false prophecies look like the are being fulfilled.

Can't prove it, can you? Just more empty talk from someone that belongs in the closet!

Spoken like a true relative of Audrey. Yes, your arguments are delusional since they have no factual backing. However, the end of the gentile times does have factual backing through man's history.

Start cleaning that window to see what is before you. More thorns to add to that thorn bush.

On the other hand, many won't be around to see God's day, and they are foolish to think they will. But, they will be judged for their skepticism, and for not believing in God's word. There will be some that won't have a chance to be "reinstated" especially because of their defiance. That doesn't mean they won't be judged for leading people astray.

1 hour ago, AnnaNana said:

so the 1914 business about Jesus taking the kingdom then and invisibly coming is bogus.

Say's you as @Pudgy which are both bogus. However, for the 10th time, prove 1914, didn't happen? Come on thorn bush, take your foot out of your mouth and answer the question like an adult.