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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in ZAZ - Belle (video about film Belle et Sebastien)   
    Thank you, Srecko.  I'll look for the movie!  What glorious scenery.   My oldest son is named Sebastian.  All of my sons have had the mountain experience thanks to their father; and spending weeks in their company, camping at the rivers that flowed from their summits.  This, when hardly strong enough to carry their packs on their backs.  To this day, it is Sebastian who traverses our mountains off-trail, as this little boy in the movie seems to love.  I hope for the day to be found faithful, and graced to spend time unrestrained, exploring a cleansed earth in the companionship of God's children.  ❤️
     
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    Witness reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Neighbours becoming enemies   
    @Space Merchant   I do not trouble myself with trying to know what the governemt is doing.  Neither do I trouble myself with what the UN is doing.  We know that the whole world is in the power of the devil, and we know that the Judgement must come. We also know that things will get much worse around the earth because the devil know he has only a short time left. Do you want me to live in fear ?  
    The Virus and the Vaccine.  Here there might be a problem.  The scriptures say we should obey the superior authorities unless they contradict God's laws. UK law says Lockdown, so we lockdown.  Now if the vaccine is made law then it would seem we should obey that law.  What is your oppinion on this ?   Do you disobey your superior authorities ? 
    I have suggested to my wife that the UK governemt may, in the future, 'run out of money'.  We receive pension payments, which could stop.  I have also thought that luxuries will lose their value so I'm looking at reducing my quantity of materal possesions.  BUT, then real 'cash' may soon be removed, everything may be by electronic payment, so we could loose control of our bank accounts ?????   Am i expected to live in fear ??? 
    My only hope is that God, through Jesus Christ, will provide a True Annointed remnant to give honest hearted ones guidance in how to stay true to God.  Then whatever the devil may bring against God's people, it will not prevail. 
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    Witness reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Watchtowers BLASPHEMY and the idolatry of Jehovah’s Witnesses   
    It's very true, but JWs deliberately blind themselves to it all.  Unfortunately JWs have made it their way of life to serve the GB through the Watchtower / JW Org / CCJW.  They even baptise their new recruits into the JW organisation.  Then the new ones are encouraged to cut off all ties with their outside friends. The GB demand complete dependability on them and the Org. They demand trust in 'men' not in God through Christ.  
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Neighbours becoming enemies   
    I would imagine every locale  is different.  Where I am, wearing the masks seem to be a minor hinderance to most; as if they are adapting to the restriction put on a normally outgoing and friendly people.    They are for the most part, still themselves, which is probably not the case everywhere. 
    Sometimes though, I feel the pandemic is all a demonic setup to magnify 2 Tim 3:1-5 as having its fulfillment in the world. But, further down in 2 Timothy it states,
    "In fact, everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted, 13 while evildoers and impostors will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived."  
    Does the GB know what being persecuted for following Jesus Christ is all about?  Nope, they are insulated by their own doctrine.  They are "lovers of themselves".  Imposters use deception to put on the air of "godliness".   2 Tim 3:1-5 describes the environment in the organization.
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Watchtowers BLASPHEMY and the idolatry of Jehovah’s Witnesses   
    This is a very short 3 1/2 minute video.  No speech is given, just written reasoning using the organization's own quotes.  
    Besides what the video presents, please consider this:
    "And just as a child seeks his parents' protection when a storm rages, we seek protection in Jehovah's organization" (w11 4/15 pp. 3-5)
    "We should also cling tightly to ‘our rock,’ Jehovah, as well as to his organization."  (w06/2/1 pg. 32)
     
    "There is no one like You among the gods, O Lord,
    Nor are there any works like Yours."   Ps 86:8
     
    "There is no one holy like the Lord,
    Indeed, there is no one besides You,
    Nor is there any rock like our God. " 1 Sam 2:2
     
    “Remember the former things long past,
    For I am God, and there is no other;
    I am God, and there is no one like Me"  Isa 46:9
     
    Where in the Word of God, does it state that we are obligated to attach ourselves to an earthly mess of an organization?  Where does it state that God and the Wt. go hand in hand?  In the light of its sins of child abuse and trampling down of the anointed ones(2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2), look what your organization boasts:
    "For example, the Bible says of Jehovah: “The Rock, perfect is his activity, for all his ways are justice. 
    Because Jehovah’s servants follow divine, not human, standards, his organization is theocratic, clean, and wholesome."   (w 98/9/1 pg 13
    HOW DARE YOUR LEADERS COMPARE AN ORGANIZATION BUILT WITH FALSE TEACHINGS, GREED AND SLAVERY...TO YHVH.
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Watchtowers BLASPHEMY and the idolatry of Jehovah’s Witnesses   
    This is a very short 3 1/2 minute video.  No speech is given, just written reasoning using the organization's own quotes.  
    Besides what the video presents, please consider this:
    "And just as a child seeks his parents' protection when a storm rages, we seek protection in Jehovah's organization" (w11 4/15 pp. 3-5)
    "We should also cling tightly to ‘our rock,’ Jehovah, as well as to his organization."  (w06/2/1 pg. 32)
     
    "There is no one like You among the gods, O Lord,
    Nor are there any works like Yours."   Ps 86:8
     
    "There is no one holy like the Lord,
    Indeed, there is no one besides You,
    Nor is there any rock like our God. " 1 Sam 2:2
     
    “Remember the former things long past,
    For I am God, and there is no other;
    I am God, and there is no one like Me"  Isa 46:9
     
    Where in the Word of God, does it state that we are obligated to attach ourselves to an earthly mess of an organization?  Where does it state that God and the Wt. go hand in hand?  In the light of its sins of child abuse and trampling down of the anointed ones(2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2), look what your organization boasts:
    "For example, the Bible says of Jehovah: “The Rock, perfect is his activity, for all his ways are justice. 
    Because Jehovah’s servants follow divine, not human, standards, his organization is theocratic, clean, and wholesome."   (w 98/9/1 pg 13
    HOW DARE YOUR LEADERS COMPARE AN ORGANIZATION BUILT WITH FALSE TEACHINGS, GREED AND SLAVERY...TO YHVH.
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in JW ELDER SAYS I AM DISFELLOWSHIPPED ??????????? :)   
    Yes, and it is one of many "idols"/temples encompassed within the main idol - the  "mountainlike organization".  (Rev 13:4)
    “Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”  John 4:21-24
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in THE GREEK SCRIPTURES ARE FOR THE TRUE ANOINTED ONES.   
    Where does your loyalty stand, with the organization and a GB who are not inspired, or with God and Jesus Christ?  Where is the humility of men who cannot even consider their anointed brothers in Christ, but choose a vast army of unanointed "Gentiles" to do their bidding?  Are you as arrogant as they are? If God truly blessed the organization, he would make it possible for all of "Israel" to come together and lead it in truth.  Yet, instead, for rejecting lies, "Israel" can be condemned to "death" through disfellowshipping.  They are the victors against this Beast/organization.  (Rev 13:15; 15:2) In the end, only those who put their faith in God and Jesus, are saved.  This is why the road is narrow and cramped.  Don't you see?  Your leaders boast of how the organization is growing by leaps and bounds.  Growing!  That road is not narrow, it is broad leading to destruction.  Only those who listen to Christ, his pure teachings, will be on the road leading to life.  Every word proven to be a lie by these men will be their judge.
    Matt 12:37 -   For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.”
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    Witness reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in JW ELDER SAYS I AM DISFELLOWSHIPPED ??????????? :)   
    I noticed you missed out the first bit. To call it a House of God and to do guided tours, is a form of worship.
    The GB expect JWs and possibly others to marval at it. That 'wonderful' construction.  
    It really is making it into an idol..   They are really just buildings, built to do a job, but the GB are making them into someting like a temple. Like i have said, Bethel, House of God.  
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in JW ELDER SAYS I AM DISFELLOWSHIPPED ??????????? :)   
    If this was true, then the scriptures I gave you held no meaning before the WT came along.  The "courtyard" had never been established on earth before Russell was "inspired" to teach that the great pyramid was God's testimony in stone.  It was never established before Rutherford taught that 1925 was the date of Armageddon.  
    You have just attributed to the lies your past leaders kindled.  
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    Witness got a reaction from Arauna in JW ELDER SAYS I AM DISFELLOWSHIPPED ??????????? :)   
    If this was true, then the scriptures I gave you held no meaning before the WT came along.  The "courtyard" had never been established on earth before Russell was "inspired" to teach that the great pyramid was God's testimony in stone.  It was never established before Rutherford taught that 1925 was the date of Armageddon.  
    You have just attributed to the lies your past leaders kindled.  
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    Witness reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in JW ELDER SAYS I AM DISFELLOWSHIPPED ??????????? :)   
    You quoted a scripture where God says "Where, then, is the house that you could build for me"
    And I showed that the GB / Watchtower / JW Org call their HQs, Bethel, meaning House of God.
    So where is the lie ? 
    I also showed that they do Bethel tours. This is not only in America but in UK too.  Once again where is the lie?
    To call it a House of God and to do guided tours, is a form of worship. You cany deny it if you wish. 
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    Witness reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in JW ELDER SAYS I AM DISFELLOWSHIPPED ??????????? :)   
    Um, don't the GB / Watchtower call their HQs Bethels ? 
    Bethel (Ugaritic: bt il, meaning "House of El" or "House of God", Hebrew: בֵּית אֵל‎ ḇêṯ'êl, also transliterated Beth El, Beth-El, Beit El; Greek: Βαιθηλ; Latin: Bethel) is the name of a place (a toponym) often used in the Hebrew Bible. It is first mentioned in Genesis 12:8 as being near where Abram pitched his tent.
    And Warwick Bethel is worshipped by JWs. 
     
    Bethel Tours - JW.org
    Get Warwick Bethel tour information, plan visits to Patterson and Wallkill too. Find out about branch offices in Australia, Canada, London (Chelmsford), and more.   Oh how JWs need to worship men and material possesions. 
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in JW ELDER SAYS I AM DISFELLOWSHIPPED ??????????? :)   
    It is important for YOU and all JWs to know who the anointed are AMONG YOU, and their role under Christ.  THEY comprise the Temple, dwelling of God. (1 Cor 3:16,17)  Yet the organization no longer acknowledges this.  The organization has become the "temple" for JWs.  (Rev 13:4,5-7)
    This is blasphemy.  
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in JW ELDER SAYS I AM DISFELLOWSHIPPED ??????????? :)   
    Arauna, I really don't care if you think I'm anointed or not.  I am here to defend the Word of God and Jesus Christ.   I gave you quotes from your "prominent", assumed anointed ones, that contradict scriptures about God's priesthood and their role. (Mal 2:7; 1 Pet 2:5,9,10) We all make our choice; whether we will believe God's Word, or we will believe the opinion of men who have modified and changed the meaning of scripture, to support an earthly organization.  (Joel 3:1,2,14-16)
     
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in JW ELDER SAYS I AM DISFELLOWSHIPPED ??????????? :)   
    "Modestly, anointed ones acknowledge that they do not necessarily have more holy spirit than those with an earthly hope."es17 pp. 57-67
    According to the scriptures, and not according to the above opinion, who should be teaching the congregations?  Your elders not anointed, or the anointed ones as a Body under Jesus Christ?  
    Who's laws do JWs prefer to follow?
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in JW ELDER SAYS I AM DISFELLOWSHIPPED ??????????? :)   
    I don't have an army of elders to "direct" as your GB does.  (Rev 13:11,12)  And, I am no longer drunk on this false prophet/Harlot's wine, as JWs are; who choose the organization over serving God "whole souled".   Rev 18:4-8
    "They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen."  Rom 1:25
    This is the "beating" the anointed under the GB rule and elder rule, must accept:
    "Anointed Christians do not feel that they should spend time only with other anointed ones, as if they were members of a club. They do not try to find other anointed ones so that they can talk about being anointed or meet in groups to study the Bible. (Galatians 1:15-17) The congregation would not be united if anointed ones did this. They would be working against the holy spirit, which helps God’s people to have peace and unity."  wt 16/1 pg 22-23
    Why does the GB not want the anointed to meet together as one Body under Christ?  Because the Holy Spirit working within a united anointed Body, is a threat to the power of a wicked slave and its army of drunkards.
    "But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth. I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth. "  1 John 2:20,21
    "As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him."  1 John 2:27
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in JW ELDER SAYS I AM DISFELLOWSHIPPED ??????????? :)   
    1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22 - The anointed priesthood and Temple/House of God
    “Representing the royal priesthood are appointed elders, who serve in positions of responsibility in congregations of Jehovah’s people around the earth. These men deserve our respect and wholehearted support, whether they are of the anointed or not. Why? Because, through his holy spirit, Jehovah has appointed the older men to their positions.” w02 8/1 p. 13-14
    Are God’s laws contradictive?
    "Appoint Aaron and his sons to serve as priests; anyone else who approaches the sanctuary is to be put to death.”  Num 3:10
    "Rather than challenge their authority, we truly appreciate our hardworking elders!"
    "Say to rebellious Israel, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: Enough of your detestable practices, people of Israel! 7 In addition to all your other detestable practices, you brought foreigners uncircumcised in heart and flesh into my sanctuary, desecrating my temple while you offered me food, fat and blood, and you broke my covenant. 8 Instead of carrying out your duty in regard to my holy things, you put others in charge of my sanctuary."  Ezek 44:6-9
    "Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.  He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God."  2 Thess 2:3,4
    "And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming."  2 Thess 2:8
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in JW ELDER SAYS I AM DISFELLOWSHIPPED ??????????? :)   
    They have caused division in the congregations. 
    Matt 24:48- "But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ 49 and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. 50 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51 He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth." 
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    Witness reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in JW ELDER SAYS I AM DISFELLOWSHIPPED ??????????? :)   
    @TrueTomHarley  I honestly cannot make any sense from your sarcastic comment so I will try to break it down to reason on it.
    online hate campaign    Romans 12 :9  "Love must be sincere. Detest what is evil; cling to what is good." 
    I hate what should be hated.   But i close no doors.  My wife knows that i have a love for God and Christ. She also knows the truth about the Watchtower Soc  / GB / JW Org.  
    Tom this honestly makes no sense to me.  When I was a JW my behaviour was polite and loving to all in the congregation, except the Elders.  I treated the Elders with caution but not rudeness.  Then i did three months research, and through prayer and personal Bible study, I came to my own conclution as to what i must do.  Knowing that the Elders would disapprove of my action and would announce by their 'normal method', I privately told a few brothers individually, of my plan to leave the Org, and gave them my reasons.  I then emailed my resignation to as many elders as possible giving them my reasons for leaving.  
    Your comment seems to be mixing up my time in the congregation, with my time on here.  There is no connection between the two.  Of course people presume that i was disfellowshipped, that is the whole idea, from your GB, to announce it from the platform as the Elders do.  And this Elder that phoned my wife made it very clear that it is for that purpose.  Because the Elders, taking instruction from the GB, through the ranks, are told to make it look so.  
    is to accuse.  I think what I've done in many instances, is to state facts.  And in many cases I've used scripture from God's word to prove things.  
    Jehovah’s organization. That is a matter of oppinion.  The Nation of Israel was God's chosen nation, BUT we all know that said nation did not serve God properly. To the extent that they murdered Jesus Christ, and God had that Nation destroyed physically and spiritually.  So just because an organisation gives itself a name that represents God, it does not mean that said organistion is serving God properly, or that said organisation has the approval of God or Christ. 
    You mock my idea of a True Anointed, but you know that I am not anointed, nor do I pretend to be.  So, i am not pushing myself forward, i am not saying I am special. Unlike the GB who DO push themselves forward by stating that only they are the F&DS, and only they are God's spokesperson on Earth, and only they should be believed, WHILST they are  treading down all of their Fellow Slaves, as mentioned in scripture. 
    Coffee time.  Have a good day Tom.   Christian love to all. 
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in JW ELDER SAYS I AM DISFELLOWSHIPPED ??????????? :)   
    What sin has the man committed that requires a change of heart?  Is it for leaving the organization?  That is not found as a sin in the Bible.  God is not an organization, and an organization is not Almighty God.  Why do JWs compare God to a man made corporation?  Are you counting God as equal to the organization?  This is idolatry.  Isa 46: 5
    Now, that is a grave sin.
    The disgusting thing stands in the Temple of God, where it doesn't belong. (Mark 13:14; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2)  Who rules over the anointed "living stones"/Temple of God? (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17) The abomination that causes desolation is in the face of all JWs.  4Jah and his wife are wise to leave the organization behind.  (Matt 24:15,16)
    “If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. 23 At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ (meaning "anointed") or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you ahead of time."  (Matt 24:22-25)
     
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    Witness reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in JW ELDER SAYS I AM DISFELLOWSHIPPED ??????????? :)   
    I am not scoffing, but when an organisation cries wolf many times and there is no wolf, then trust runs out.
    I know it's coming, but it's coming  'as a thief in the night'  and we do not know 'the day or the hour'.  So i don't think an Elder should say it is months not years. As i said we will continue to disagree. 
    WW1 happened because of the invention of machines, vehicles, aeroplanes, bombs, machine guns, all improved weapons of war, so it made war easier and more able to cover larger areas. 
    Lockdown is due to a virus, either man made or accidental. But lockdown is because of the knoledge of how the virus spreads and therefore trying to stop it.  
    I will not read into things to try to pretend they represent phrophecy ........... 
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    Witness reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in JW ELDER SAYS I AM DISFELLOWSHIPPED ??????????? :)   
    That is so funny  .   Then it seems you believe he has the authority to condemn me. 
    Why would i need to 'have a change of heart' about the sins commited by the GB and all those supporting the GB ? 
    Arauna, I love God and Christ, but i do not need to be judged by Elders of the Watchtower / JW org. 
    It seems that 'time has been running out' since 1914 according to the Watchtower / JW Org. 
    Of course i believe in the coming Judgement / Armageddon, because that is from scripture, not from the GB  / Org. But it is not the Elder's place to pretend he knows when the End is coming.  My wife may be deeply worried now when she really has no need to worry.  My faith is in God through Christ, and that is how I will be judged. 
     
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    Witness reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in JW ELDER SAYS I AM DISFELLOWSHIPPED ??????????? :)   
    This is of no concern to me BUT it did upset my wife. And when an Elder upsets my wife THAT IS of concern to me. 
    An Elder phoned today asking to speak to my wife. I called my wife to the phone then I left the room.  The phone conversation was quite long and during that conversation the Elder said to my wife that I am disfellowshipped. My wife replied that I wasn't disfellowshipped but that i had disassociated myself from the Organisation. The Elder replied "It all means the same to us". 
    Just think on that for a while. ...........  That Elder has basically condemned me to death....  Then at the end of the phone call he said he may phone me to try to talk me into going back.  Oh dear.  Does he really think he has any authority from God ? 
    But my point is, that this is PROOF positive of how Elders think and act.  This is not theory, it's FACT. Elders really believe they have some authority from God, to condemn to death or to reprieve. 
    We NEED God through Christ to provide a True Anointed remnant to guide an Organisation to serve God properly, before the Judgement arrives..  
    Update :  Having had further conversation with my wife about the phone call, she tells me that the Elder said (concerning Armageddon) "It's not years away, it's months away". ... So it seems this Elder  has special insight, he seems to know the 'day and the hour'  But no. In reality it's just another threat.  He was trying to frighten my wife. Such a cowardly thing to do. THIS IS HOW Elders work. 
     
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