Arauna

Saw such toilets in Italy and in Portugal..... drain systems were quite advanced with water flowing. They washed the sponges in the little pools in front of them. I am not sure if people kept their own sponges or it was public sponges because public sponges could lead to the spread of disease. Must have been hard to come down from a 3 or 4 storey building (your rooms) to go to the toilet at night with a little oil lamp.... Thanks for modern conveniences! Yes, privacy was not cherished. The poor all had public facilities and the rich had slaves which could gape at all your private events going on.... We cannot imagine the life style...

Why am I not surprised?

This thing that has set itself up in God's temple has been around since the second century - Read matt 13 to see who sowed the weeds and when they would be pulled out....in time of end- when their fruits are fully visible. Read up about the Greek influence in the 2nd century congregation and how this philosophy influenced the congregation. While the apostles were alive they kept it in control but after john died is quickly spread until Constantine the great made it an empire who controlled kings. The one sitting in the temple of God with great power has been around for centuries not a hundred years. Babylon the Great is teaching the exact same teachings which took hold after the flood. They are not proclaiming the Kingdom as the solution for mankinds problems - and I guess neither are you because you do not belong to that nation which learns war no more in the last days.... Babylon the great teachings is the trinity and immortality of the soul etc etc. Tell me - where did you learn these teachings were false? From the very hand you are biting now? You are deluding yourself.... and I am being kind to show you this. I am not superior but I understand the scriptures and Jehovah's purpose. My confidence comes from Jehovah's Spirit. Your comments show your acidity with the GB because you have not got a special spot to shed your special light on everyone. But is it really a light/lamp from Jehovah ...or your own ideas..... You seem to have the same OCD I see with some of the others here..... always back to the same old song..... to get recognition as a true anointed but without the "land" or the holy nation..... ......Not sowing seeds of the kingdom but of division. By your fruits I know you....

Oh dear - So the events of 1914 and the history just gets thrown out by an expert who is not truly an expert. Sorry.... I am not arguing about this. I know the history too well to be impressed by your aberrations. What you guys do not realize is that the image of the beast has already started ruling behind the scenes and the devastation will soon be upon us when the UN (the image of the beast) openly does what it wants. Will all the virgins have their lamps filled with Jehovah's spirit oil or will they have their own oil which does not burn and give light to them....... and death dealing to those who listen to them. (5 virgins are the anointed who were not ready) and war mongering because they cannot have the cake and devour it? Thanks - but no thanks..... I do not agree with you... I think a generation can be 120 years. The last generation in Noahs day was 120 years. ... and Jehovah compares the flood to the last days of this system..... Soon we will see the true face of Satan when his people openly start ruling the world. Everything is already in place while 5 virgins are sleeping....

. I am sure that period did not occure during the Second world war as the WT explains. You please provide evidence to the contrary!

I think you have made up your own version of what is in the bible - that is why you are at odds with the GB. The root cause of mankind's problems was the choosing of independence from Jehovah. The inability to cooperate and be part of his people we see many examples of - like Corah. He was so sure he had God's blessing! poor man. Luckily Jehovah did not put him in Gehenna - only Sheol. I understand the scriptures - so I ask you the same question..... Who has hold over you? .... the heart is treacherous and always wants to be independent....

Silly - how can one provide proof of something that does not exist? In the Australian enquiry there were no other organizations who said they had records.......... or can you provide proof to the contrary?

Israel fulfilled their purpose and Jehovah stayed loyal to them until this was fulfilled. Jesus only preached to the Jews - so they would have been the kings and priest promised in Exodus 19..... but Jehovah then turned to the nations to produce the Israel of God.

I write from memory but as far as I remember this refers to the period after Jesus started ruling in heaven during the first world war. Mal 3 refers to the cleansing which took place in this time. The king of the fortresses after this in Daniel 11 then then stands up (Russia) and the king of the south pushes against him (cold war era). The last part of verse 40 and 41 - 44 will soon go into fulfillment. ( I also think that Russia and China have the same imperialistic goals at present). The west has almost been conquered by the cultural communistic agenda and the One World Government of the UN is starting to rule covertly as we speak. (Look at other headings on this forum such as Migrant compact 2018).They want the full Agenda 2030 to be in place by the year 2030. The Northern Seleucid king Antiochus IV put Zeus in the temple at Jerusalem and profaned it - this will happen again because they will force all religions to accept the UN god - the old god of the fortresses (UN religion will be forced on us) which will run this system of things. The morality the UN will prescribe like a bible - will be the new morality we are starting to see appearing out in the open in gender politics with transgenderism totally accepted and being indoctrinated in universities and schools. They will expect all religions to accept this as well or face the consequences....it may be at this time that priests, rabbis and imams pretend not to be religious leaders etc.....religion will be unfashionable. UN will call peace and security and then all hell will break lose.

One does not have to have the experience to be able to put yourself in another persons situation. The fact you have experience can make you too judgmental and emotional and crowd out common sense. It is not always an asset to have experience of evil things. To insinuate that we do not have empathy reminds me of these transgender people who are always playing the victim card. ..... they officially, according to the new philosophy, cannot discriminate against anyone because they have suffered and been discriminated against - which is most probably the biggest lie ever told to promote transgender politics. People who have been discriminated against often become the biggest discriminators of others in other areas.... but they are blind to their own mistakes. This is not true but I am a realist - I do not expect people to simply believe allegations even if it may be true (allegations are allegations until one has proof) - one needs facts and proof to put someone out of the congregation or in jail. You obviously do not understand that this is a world-wide problem and it is a symptom of Satan ruling this world. It is to a much lesser degree amongst Jehovah's people because we do make an effort to keep the congregation clean. In other religions one can fornicate and do all kinds of things and get away with it..... I think you are so filled with bias that you cannot weigh any of the facts in a sensible way. Other denominations do not have records because they have never made an effort to keep any.... so they do not get negative publicity because they actually have tried to do the right thing. I watched a documentary recently where a prestigious Jewish school teacher was abusing children and her husband was a rabbi. The school board warned her and she fled to israel where she is receiving protection from extradition. (rabbis and their families are treated like gods). I will not even go into Islam or some of the charismatic churches.... if you are blind to these abuses which are ingrained and allowed in the religions ....and only focus on JWs who at least make an effort to keep the congregation clean - then you will remain the same and not see any good and any religions. You can just as well be an atheist - and even they do this. Because I can guarantee you it is in the whole world in every place where there are children. You do not trust Jehovah to do it at the right time? If you believe he exists and if you know that he is using this organization to do the preaching work - then surely you can believe that he will cleanse it when it needs to have a new cleanse..... he has cleansed it in the past. I agree with you that Jehovah will start with his congregation first - the people who carry his name. No one can play with the living God - Annanias and Saphira are a good example of that..... .

OCD again! Obsessive compulsive disorder.

Refers to individual persons Jehovah's people as a nation will not be annihilated because they are not unrighteous as a collective..... individuals soil the spiritual paradise. The final attack at Armageddon will be a direct attack on the anointed for sure..... There has been a cleaning of our teachings and ongoing progress of our procedures... and hardship has been like lye to wash us clean. We are imperfect people just like israel was a very imperfect nation. Nevertheless Jehovah used Israel for his purpose.... and his purpose now is the preaching work world-wide and to sound the warning and to get us all in a condition where we can live through Armageddon. They are fulfilling this commission and have stuck to this no matter what happened - through good and bad times.

Soon to come my dear! Seems you know how to grab all kinds of quotes but you have not read any to make sense of it.... Do that.... you may learn something! I do not waste my time with people who just want to argue for the sake of arguing. So what do you think of Agenda 21 and UN Compact 2018? After all - this is the subject - what is your superior understanding about it?

Accusations, accusations of being institutionalized problem.... make up your mind. In previous response you said you are not accusing all of us of being child molesters and condoning this.... And broadcasting will just give people like you more ammunition to dissect and accuse. As I said there - Jesus was being perfect and righteous and could not stand up to the scrutiny of the unrighteous. If you want to stone someone - you will find a stone. JWs do NOT condone child sex abuse and when we have proof they are put outside of the congregation.... and we used to keep records before any other organization did so and there was no legislation requesting this. For most part we have a peaceful and clean organization. But you are unrealistic regarding this world. I laugh at your naivety regarding this world. You are definitely very uninformed about what is going on. We are squeaky clean compared to the world. 1002 cases in 70 years? One case is too much ..... but most of these were not convicted cases and they were followed up and notes kept.... I am impressed that JWs did this when other organizations did not even 'bother' to do so. So you think a young boy of 12 who touched a girl inappropriately should be called a child molester for the rest of his life? Most people will think this young boy raped or had sex with minor girl. A lot of young boys at 17 years have consensual sex with girl of 15 years. The police often wait until they are 18 and then charge them as adult to have sex with minor..... You think this is OK justice?..... I am exposing your ignorance regarding this matter. We are not talking about drinking or drunken driving - we are talking here in this subject about having sex with minors. It is easy to judge the application of law and rules.... until you are in the judgment seat. This is why Jehovah cautions us not to judge others because then you are judging law..... few people are really wise enough with understanding of both sides to make a very sound and righteous judgment. I just looked this up on internet very quickly for james 4:11-12 (one of my favorite scriptures) This interpretation is not from a JW website but their understanding is similar to ours: james 4: 11-12 I don't get James' logic here. How is an act of judging a brother an act of judging the law? Good question. One possibility is that you are complaining that the law has not properly judged and 'punished' this brother. Think of how the elder brother begrudged his father's forgiveness of the prodigal when he returned. But I suspect we are missing something about Jewish legal interpretation here. The Law (Torah) is holy, the word of God, and by definition cannot be judged. Judging means slandering the neighbor, something the Law forbids you to do (Lev. 19), so by doing that you are "judging the law," i.e. putting yourself above the law, or as we would say "taking the law into your own hands." Be careful that you do not do this.... that is if you really care about your relationship with Jehovah.