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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    I’m not saying that we are not responsible for paying our taxes.  (By the way, “Jehovah’s organization” has found a way to avoid paying taxes)  Jesus was speaking of our need to separate riches of this world with spiritual riches that he offered in his teachings. Those are the important treasures, which we are to build upon. I am saying that Jesus was preaching new wine, to be put in new wine skins. (Col 2:2; Matt 9:17)  But, the Wt. has proven that they prefer "old wine", where they can build their kingdom in this world ruled by Satan.  (Luke 5:39; 4:5-7)
    “It is not that there may be relief for others and hardship for you, but it is a question of equality”  2 Cor 8:13
    You are telling me that your GB practice financial equality among JWs. That they ensure their abundance is distributed to every JW?   Not possible, is it.  They wouldn't allow it, would they.  
    Your kingdom halls may be built as grass huts or with chandeliers hanging in their foyers as I have seen, according to the financial ability of the congregation.  Conveniently, all are now owned by the organization; a very prosperous move by your GB.  What your leadership does for its offices and assembly gathering places, are far from modest. I'm sure a tour of Bethel will open your eyes...or not.  
     
    What's more important, how clean your buildings are, or how truthful your teachings are; today, yesterday and decades in the past? Jesus said, those whom he sends must produce "fruit that lasts" - it stays, never to rot, never to be tossed away.  Do you understand this?  It is another teaching of Jesus, that your GB don't seem to recognize.  (Matt 23:25-28; John 15:16)  Because your leadership has built its own "temple"/organization, and has rejected God's authentic "house of prayer" built with "living stones", your entire organization is an idol, prophesied to "make war" with the "saints".     (Rev 13:4,7,8)
    You asked what my "story" is.  My testimony about the Temple “living stones”, (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16) the blasphemy and falsehoods of the organization, (2 Thess 2,4; Rev 11:1,2; 13:1,2)  and its wicked slave (Matt 24:48-51; Rev 13:11,12), is why the organization considers me an apostate.  It has nothing to do with sinning against the Father or Jesus Christ; but everything to do with exposing Wt’s lies, which is the location of the "man of lawlessness" that "sits"/rules/stands where it does not belong...in God's Temple.  (Mark 13:14; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1-3,7)
    So, if knowing that I am an apostate on those grounds, causes you to make your decision to "shun" either I or @Srecko Sostar for his reasons, what a shallow and weak decision it is.  We either love the light of truth in Christ and keep seeking it, or we gravitate to darkness, where lies about the Father, the Son, and His dwelling in Spirit, are told. (John 3:19; 2 Thess 2:9-12)
    https://pearl-disgustingthing.blogspot.com/
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    "Is it lawful for us to pay taxes to Caesar or not?”
    23 But detecting their craftiness, He said to them, 24 “Show Me a denarius. Whose image and inscription does it have?”
    “Caesar’s,” they said.
    25 “Well then,” He told them, “give back to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s and to God the things that are God’s.”   Luke 20:22-25
     
    Did Jesus say, take half of that coin and give it to God? No. It had Caesar’s name on it, not God’s.   Shouldn’t this tell us that money is not needed to worship God “in spirit and truth”? (John 4:23,24)  Any money that Jesus and the disciples had, was given to those in need – the poor.  Can your organization let go of all of its riches and give them to the poor? (Matt 19:21; Luke 12:33)  After Jesus left the earth, the congregations shared everything, they supported one another.  This is our template to go by.  If you had read the post link, you may have understood.  
     We convince ourselves that we need money for religious purposes, when we are told and believe leaders of a religious organization cannot feed us spiritual food without it. They cannot spread their version of “truth”.  (Matt 23:15)  “There is more money going out, than coming in”, GB Stephen Lett stated. This is manipulation, and we know it worked. People were changing their meager budgets to give to men who were already money-rich. All involved at the top, have this insatiable drive to build and expand on, their fleshly desires. (Matt 19:21-24)   They are now selling kingdom halls to free up money for larger projects.  The development of the organization is the same development as all other religious organizations. So, what sets your religions apart?  Nothing, really; expect the anointed trapped within. (Rev 20:7-9)  It tell lies also, just as other religious do.  Money is required to keep religious leadership’s power and authority stable over the “flock”; no matter if it is the Catholic church, or the Mormon church, or the Wt. organization.  The end result, is power to manipulate another person’s spiritual well-being.  The organization has always thrown up the example of the Catholic church in the faces of its members, expounding on its riches.  Well, when it comes to its own riches, they are dead quiet about it.  There is no transparency at the top.
    What is the distinction between pure worship and false worship?  Pure worship does not require money. The Temple of God, the dwelling of His Spirit, does not need riches to promote “spirit and truth”.  (1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22)  It does not need a physical, literal mountain to worship at.  That was Jesus’ point when talking to woman at the well.  A literal mountain is seen from a distance.  Wt has built many of them, for the world to see, with riches procured from those who have fallen for their deception. (Matt 24:24; 2 Pet 1:16; 2:2) And the organization glorifies its works that they have ‘collected’ in these endeavors. (Luke 4:5-7)  Wouldn’t you agree that other religions have been successful at that also?   Jesus was saying that building organized mountains, are not the way to worship God. 
     Truth in Christ is light, that radiates outwardly from within. (Luke 6:45)  He told those whom HE would send, that they would be a lamp shining in a dark place, just as he was the light of the world. (Matt 5:14-16; John 1:4,5; 13:20) As the source of living water, his words were enough for us to recognize truth and he did not charge money to receive it.  He didn’t ask for donations. If your leaders were truly part of the vine of Christ, they would not expect you to give money for it either.   (John 15:1-6; 7:38)  Riches are not necessary to produce his truth.   
     Can your organization sell all of its riches and give them to the poor? (Matt 19:21)   It has become “treasure” for all who are part of it.  It is their desire of the eyes, so much so, that thousands travel many miles to flock to its ornate buildings.
    You had a source of spiritual riches when knowing the two anointed ones you spoke about.  Sadly, they most likely didn’t understand the light of truth was in themselves, since they bought their spiritual provision from a false prophet. (Matt 25:1-13;;Rev 13:11,12,15-17)  They were captivated by “empty philosophy” just as you are.  (Col 2:8; 1 Tim 4:1; Rev 13:10; 16:13-16)  God’s Spirit dwelled within their heart – the spirit of truth, and His laws were written within it.  (Rom 5:5; 1 John 2:27; Heb 10:16)  Instead, they submitted to the corrupt rulership of an organization built with literal riches.  In your organization, the “living stones” of the Temple are not allowed to shed their “light” God gave them in Spirit, since it would conflict with the false light from your evil slave. (Rev 8:10,11)  Each anointed one, is a “teacher” of the law fulfilled in Christ.  Yet, those who are subservient to an evil slave are restricted from teaching Christ’s truths.  (Mal 2:7; 1 Pet 2:5,9)
     “Don’t collect for yourselves treasures (“or valuables”) on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal. 20 But collect for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves don’t break in and steal. 21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.”  Matt 6:19-21
    Does your organization adhere to this teaching of Jesus? Or, does it tell only its members not to do this?
    I speak of both the Father and the Son.  I listen to the words of Christ, as the Father told us to. (Matt 17:5)
    Jesus answered, “If you knew the gift of God, and who is saying to you, ‘Give me a drink,’ you would ask him, and he would give you living water.”  John 4:10
    John 7:37,38 - On the last and most important day of the festival, Jesus stood up and cried out, “If anyone is thirsty, he should come to me and drink! 38 The one who believes in me, as the Scripture has said, will have streams of living water flow from deep within him.” 
    “Come, everyone who is thirsty,
    come to the waters;
    and you without money,
    come, buy, and eat!
    Come, buy wine and milk
    without money and without cost!
    2 Why do you spend money on what is not food,
    and your wages on what does not satisfy?
    Listen carefully to Me, and eat what is good,
    and you will enjoy the choicest of foods.
    3 Pay attention and come to Me;
    listen, so that you will live.
    I will make an everlasting covenant with you,
    the promises assured to David.
    4 Since I have made him a witness to the peoples,
    a leader and commander for the peoples,
    5 so you will summon a nation you do not know,
    and nations who do not know you will run to you.
    For the Lord your God,
    even the Holy One of Israel,
    has glorified you.”  Isa 55:1-5
     
     
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    By teaching that an organization, filled with corruption, in Satan's world will bring JWs salvation, Jesus as the only Way, Truth, and Life, has become less important. (John 14:6; 4:21-24) God's Temple priesthood has become less important. (Matt 16:18) God's Temple has no meaning, but the organization...JWs cannot live without. 
    That's just the beginning of your organization's full rejection of Christ's teachings.  By looking to the brainstorm of men, your leaders have paved the way for going beyond the teachings of Christ.  
    "Come to Jehovah's organization for salvation" Watchtower 1981 Nov 15 p.212
    "Salvation is to be found through him alone; in all the world there is no one else whom God has given who can save us.”  Acts 4:12
    "They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served something created instead of the Creator, who is praised forever. Amen." Rom 1:25
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    That, is an ingenious idea! 
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    2 John 1:9 – “Anyone who does not remain in Christ’s teaching but goes beyond it, does not have God. The one who remains in that teaching, this one has both the Father and the Son.”
    I like this scripture, because it concentrates on Christ’s teachings, not the doctrines of men.  There is a lot said about doctrine that deviates from the teachings of Christ.  His teachings are sound doctrine, which the apostles stressed for us to adhere to.
    “Now I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause dissensions and obstacles contrary to the doctrine you have learned. Avoid them, 18 for such people do not serve our Lord Christ but their own appetites. They deceive the hearts of the unsuspecting with smooth talk and flattering words.” Rom 16:17,18
    “If anyone teaches other doctrine and does not agree with the sound teaching of our Lord Jesus Christ and with the teaching that promotes godliness, he is conceited, understanding nothing, but has a sick interest in disputes and arguments over words. From these come envy, quarreling, slander, evil suspicions, 5 and constant disagreement among people whose minds are depraved and deprived of the truth, who imagine that godliness is a way to material gain.” 1 Tim 6:4,5
    “For the time will come when they will not tolerate sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, will multiply teachers for themselves because they have an itch to hear something new.”  2 Tim 4:3
    So, every time the organization’s leadership uses Prov 4:18 to cover failed doctrine that had no light to begin with, it cannot be said that Holy Spirit played a part in its development, from teaching's beginning to what it has changed into now.   You have an extensive list of doctrine outside of the teachings of Christ.  The generation teaching is just one of them. The "faithful slave" is another. 
     “Beliefs Clarified” does not show the genius of God, Emma.  It shows the foolishness of men, who choose to remain in darkness.
    "But the person without the Spirit does not receive what comes from God’s Spirit, because it is foolishness to him; he is not able to understand it since it is evaluated spiritually."
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    Really Anna?  Just as “trampling” is symbolic for the dominating power of the elder body over the anointed priesthood/Temple, “beating” is also symbolic; as well as the “killing”/disfellowshipping committed by your leadership. (Dan 8:13; Rev 11:1,2)
    Let’s see…the question should be, why are all anointed who stand up and give testimony of Christ, are “beaten” and subsequently, “killed”?  I think you know the partial answer.  You GB won’t have any “despicable apostates” in their midst.
    NWT:  “You heard that it was said to those of ancient times: ‘You must not murder, but whoever commits a murder will be accountable to the court of justice.’ 22  However, I say to you that everyone who continues wrathful with his brother will be accountable to the court of justice; and whoever addresses his brother with an unspeakable word of contempt will be accountable to the Supreme Court; whereas whoever says, ‘You despicable fool!’ will be liable to the fiery Ge·henʹna.”   Matt 5:21-22
    My goodness, did Mr. Morris ever play into that one!
    The other reason, is that those disfellowshipped for rejecting the organization, and testify about the Christ and his Temple, are in fact, walking in his spiritual path of persecution.  He suffered at that hands of his own people, as do the anointed who follow his example. 
    “You are blessed when they insult and persecute you and falsely say every kind of evil against you because of Me.”  Matt 5:11
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    God out of graciousness allowed Solomon to build Him a temple.  And what did all of those riches lead to, but Solomon's downfall.  Yet, God's prophetic words to David were not about Solomon, but about Jesus Christ building God's spiritual Temple.  
    But that night the word of the Lord came to Nathan, saying:
    5 “Go and tell my servant David, ‘This is what the Lord says: Are you the one to build me a house to dwell in? 6 I have not dwelt in a house from the day I brought the Israelites up out of Egypt to this day. I have been moving from place to place with a tent as my dwelling. 7 Wherever I have moved with all the Israelites, did I ever say to any of their rulers whom I commanded to shepherd my people Israel, “Why have you not built me a house of cedar?”’
    “‘The Lord declares to you that the Lord himself will establish a house for you: 12 When your days are over and you rest with your ancestors, I will raise up your offspring to succeed you, your own flesh and blood, and I will establish his kingdom. 13 He is the one who will build a house for my Name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever.  2 Sam 7:5-7,11b-13
    Do you really think that God meant that the organization would be the house He is speaking of? Something greater than Solomon is here, and it is not your GB.  Luke 11:31
     It doesn't matter if you think the anointed women were "active" in your preaching work.  What matters is if they ever listened to their Head, Jesus Christ over the Head of your organization.  (Rev 2:2-5; 3:18)
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    Oh Anna.  Mormons preach, Seventh Day Adventists preach, Baptists preach. Many people preach either their church's doctrines or simply about Jesus Christ.   What does it matter if when you preach, you are telling a lie?  What does it matter if your preaching work rejects God’s Temple that JWs should understand and look to, yet you bolster an earthly organization instead? You yourself, have been hesitant with 1914, a foundation teaching of your leadership. - a "core" teaching that has changed as the weather changes.  You know full well what your past leadership has taught. Yet, you support them with your continual preaching work of an organization based on falsehood.  This is hypocrisy!  And it is why I quit preaching for the organization and began preaching for Jesus Christ. (Rev 11:1-3)
     The priesthood/Body has many different gifts that lay untapped in the organization. ( 1 Cor 12:4,7-11,14,15,20,21,25,27,18)  Don’t include the elder body in this, the large majority of which are not the anointed Household of God. (Eph 2:20-22)  Your “steward”/administrator seems to think that the role of a house manager is all-encompassing.  Does a manager of a house do the dishes, wash the clothes, pay the bills, run the errands, cook and bake all the dinners for the occupants?  Or, does he “oversee” all that is produced, and then distribute from every offering the servants of the house provide, those offerings that  will contribute to the health and well-being of all within the house? It’s like a steward of a ship, bringing food to a passenger, that the steward did not cook. In its most simple form, your GB have decided they are to do all of it.  They reject offerings of truth from God’s priests, and if any priest rejects their food, their falsehoods, they are beaten down – disfellowshipped.  (Matt 24:48-51; Rev 13:11,12;15)
    So, basically your GB leadership has created its own counterfeit house (organization) and their way of running is not based whatsoever on Christ's teachings.  (Luke 22:25-27)  A true “faithful and discreet slave” that is chosen as the house manager under Christ – and IN God’s Temple, spiritual House, would not beat his fellow slaves for providing food for the house! This is why so many anointed have been disfellowshipped over the years.
    It’s like a man going away: He leaves his house and puts his servants in charge, each with their assigned task, and tells the one at the door to keep watch.  Mark 13:34
    Who assigns the tasks?  The GB, or Jesus? Well, in your organization, it is the GB.  Now, don't you think every anointed priest is aware of the task Jesus has assigned to them? Should someone else decide what their task is to be? 
    A genuine faithful steward would discern whether the house servants offer Truth, and he would distribute it to all; because the members of the anointed Body SHOULD all speak truth under the spirit of Christ. (1 Cor 12:13; Eph 4:25) We don't find that at all in your organization.
    The Master’s belongings that the steward watches over, are the “true riches” (Holy Spirit) from each servant of the Master, that should be “managed” properly.(  Luke 16:1,2,10-12)  Each gift given to the servants of the Master cannot be ignored.  They are vital to the life of the members and the Body.  (1 Cor 12:25,26)
     All spiritual food offered to others from those Jesus sends, is to be in harmony with the foundation teachings of the Temple, not those of an organization.    
    This, your GB cannot and will not do. They are the “wasteful steward”.  They will give an accounting for their wastefulness; their rejection of not only the gifts offered by the anointed Body, but their rejection of the Body itself.  And, since the Body is one in Christ, they have rejected Christ as well, even though you may mention the name, Jesus.  (Mark 13:22;2 Cor 11:4)
     Their greed for power and authority must be preserved, at all costs.  So, they have appointed their own body, their own chosen priests to run your organization, who do their bidding. Do you see the dichotomy?
    The Temple of God is to stand on its own, as Zion.  But, your organization calls itself Zion.  Two mountains then, are at war in the last days - a counterfeit “mountainlike organization” which tramples those of Daughter Zion; against those who reconnect with the Temple of God by leaving the counterfeit, repenting of their sins to an idol,  and preach the foundation Truth of Jesus and the apostles. (Isa 52:1-3; Rev 2:26-29; 2:1-5; Zech 4:6,7; Rev 8:8,9)
     
    "Wasteful Steward" - https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2012/09/luke161-15.html
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    @Lifeswaterfree, I like your avatar, if that is the proper terminology.  
     
    He came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up. As usual, he entered the synagogue on the Sabbath day and stood up to read. 17 The scroll of the prophet Isaiah was given to him, and unrolling the scroll, he found the place where it was written:
    18 “The Spirit of the Lord is on me,
    because he has anointed me
    to preach good news to the poor.
    He has sent meto heal the broken-hearted
    to proclaim release to the captives
    and recovery of sight to the blind,
    to set free the oppressed,
    19 to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor.”
    “These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: “Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. 6 Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel. 7 As you go, proclaim this message: ‘The kingdom of heaven has come near.’ 8 Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy, drive out demons. Freely you have received; freely give.”  Matt 10:5-8
    “It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery.”  Gal 5:1
    Just this morning I was thinking how Satan could devise a spiritual “yoke of slavery” that appears not as captivity, but as one of freedom, to worship as a person chooses. (Ezek 13:10; 1 Thess 5:3; 2 Pet 2:17-19) The two words, captivity and freedom contradict each other; but, Satan uses both when they serve to advance his own "kingdom interests".  (Luke 4:5-7; Dan 9;26,27;Dan 11:32; Matt 24:24; Rev 12:15; 13:5,11,12)  He would use his resources at hand – putting his “head” ministers at the helm to fight for this apparent right, via the world’s court systems. (2 Cor 11:13,-15; Rev 13:1,11;17:7,9)
    Yet, when we look at the example of Jesus, this course of action in no way is in imitation of his path, or that of his followers. (John 18:36)  But, Satan’s ministers have been successful in seducing the anointed with the unsuspecting bait of lies.  (Amos 3:4,5; Mark 13:22; Rev 2:20-23)  We all know this takes money, that those within his trap, would provide.  The organization would need more individuals to come on board, supporting the “fight” to keep up the appearance of spiritual freedom.  So, a preaching work was developed, with tantalizing offers of truth. This would be spearheaded by a succession of leadership; who progressively pollute the pure waters of Christ’s truth, until barely a morsel of pure truth is left. (Ezek 34:17-19; Rev 8:10-11; 16:13-16)  These poisoned waters would no longer be “free” to receive, or pure as holding the promise of eternal life; but would come with requirements formulated by the doctrine of men. (Jer 2:13; John 4:10; 1 John 3:3; Rev 22:1)  These are debased rules of an organization that even many of their “neighbors” would not practice. (Ezek 22:4,5,23-29) Yet, this religion can brag triumphantly of its wicked accomplishments - causing spiritual bloodshed through disfellowshipping, hiding child abuse, dividing families, and trampling the “saints” with blasphemy. (Mar 13:5-8,14; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1-3)
    “How you hate honest judges!
        How you despise people who tell the truth!
    11 You trample the poor,
        stealing their grain through taxes and unfair rent.
    Therefore, though you build beautiful stone houses,
        you will never live in them.
    Though you plant lush vineyards,
        you will never drink wine from them.
    12 For I know the vast number of your sins
        and the depth of your rebellions.
    You oppress good people by taking bribes
        and deprive the poor of justice in the courts.”  Amos 5:10-12
    The message that the kingdom of God has come near, is again being pronounced to the lost sheep of  “Israel” today, God’s people under covenant.  (Jer 51:6; Matt 10:23; Rev 18:4-8)  They have accepted the yoke of slavery through dedication to an organization; but this time, joining them are “Gentiles” who also carry that yoke, the “dedication” to an earthly entity – bearing the dedication mark of an idol. (Rev 13:2,8,16-18) 
    I am amazed at the efficiency of Satan’s diabolical trap, to woo God’s people with the promised “freedom” of truth, while at the same time, able to slide a yoke of blindness upon their shoulders that they didn’t “see” coming.  I am astounded that a JW can believe he or she lives the “best life ever”, while rejecting the only source of freedom we have, which is in Jesus Christ.  (Matt 11:28; John 10:4,5,9,10)
    You and I both know that receiving life’s water free, as your avatar states, is not possible in the organization. Only those of us who have rejected the yoke of slavery devised by the wicked intentions of Satan, understand what taking in Christ’s living water freely, truly means.  Just the thought that voluntary donations are needed to support “Jehovah’s (already rich) organization”, should be a warning flag easy to see.  But, to those who are enamored by what the riches of this world can accomplish in religion, they cannot perceive the truth behind Jesus’ teaching -  that one cannot serve both God and money.  (Mat 6:24)  They don’t hear the trumpet call to leave Wt. sins behind. (Amos 3:6,9,10)  They will continue to serve the needs of men, while the “banner” of truth raised by God, will draw the righteous hearted, of whom many are already “leaving” the apostate city.  (Ps 60:4; Isa 11:10-12;  Joel 3:18-21; Matt 22:8-10; Rev 18:4-8)
    “Do what is good and run from evil
        so that you may live!
    Then the Lord God of Heaven’s Armies will be your helper,
        just as you have claimed.
    15 Hate evil and love what is good;
        turn your courts into true halls of justice.
    Perhaps even yet the Lord God of Heaven’s Armies
        will have mercy on the remnant of his people.”  Amos 5:14,15
     
    https://pearl-anillustration.blogspot.com/
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    Witness got a reaction from Lifeswaterfree in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    "Is it lawful for us to pay taxes to Caesar or not?”
    23 But detecting their craftiness, He said to them, 24 “Show Me a denarius. Whose image and inscription does it have?”
    “Caesar’s,” they said.
    25 “Well then,” He told them, “give back to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s and to God the things that are God’s.”   Luke 20:22-25
     
    Did Jesus say, take half of that coin and give it to God? No. It had Caesar’s name on it, not God’s.   Shouldn’t this tell us that money is not needed to worship God “in spirit and truth”? (John 4:23,24)  Any money that Jesus and the disciples had, was given to those in need – the poor.  Can your organization let go of all of its riches and give them to the poor? (Matt 19:21; Luke 12:33)  After Jesus left the earth, the congregations shared everything, they supported one another.  This is our template to go by.  If you had read the post link, you may have understood.  
     We convince ourselves that we need money for religious purposes, when we are told and believe leaders of a religious organization cannot feed us spiritual food without it. They cannot spread their version of “truth”.  (Matt 23:15)  “There is more money going out, than coming in”, GB Stephen Lett stated. This is manipulation, and we know it worked. People were changing their meager budgets to give to men who were already money-rich. All involved at the top, have this insatiable drive to build and expand on, their fleshly desires. (Matt 19:21-24)   They are now selling kingdom halls to free up money for larger projects.  The development of the organization is the same development as all other religious organizations. So, what sets your religions apart?  Nothing, really; expect the anointed trapped within. (Rev 20:7-9)  It tell lies also, just as other religious do.  Money is required to keep religious leadership’s power and authority stable over the “flock”; no matter if it is the Catholic church, or the Mormon church, or the Wt. organization.  The end result, is power to manipulate another person’s spiritual well-being.  The organization has always thrown up the example of the Catholic church in the faces of its members, expounding on its riches.  Well, when it comes to its own riches, they are dead quiet about it.  There is no transparency at the top.
    What is the distinction between pure worship and false worship?  Pure worship does not require money. The Temple of God, the dwelling of His Spirit, does not need riches to promote “spirit and truth”.  (1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22)  It does not need a physical, literal mountain to worship at.  That was Jesus’ point when talking to woman at the well.  A literal mountain is seen from a distance.  Wt has built many of them, for the world to see, with riches procured from those who have fallen for their deception. (Matt 24:24; 2 Pet 1:16; 2:2) And the organization glorifies its works that they have ‘collected’ in these endeavors. (Luke 4:5-7)  Wouldn’t you agree that other religions have been successful at that also?   Jesus was saying that building organized mountains, are not the way to worship God. 
     Truth in Christ is light, that radiates outwardly from within. (Luke 6:45)  He told those whom HE would send, that they would be a lamp shining in a dark place, just as he was the light of the world. (Matt 5:14-16; John 1:4,5; 13:20) As the source of living water, his words were enough for us to recognize truth and he did not charge money to receive it.  He didn’t ask for donations. If your leaders were truly part of the vine of Christ, they would not expect you to give money for it either.   (John 15:1-6; 7:38)  Riches are not necessary to produce his truth.   
     Can your organization sell all of its riches and give them to the poor? (Matt 19:21)   It has become “treasure” for all who are part of it.  It is their desire of the eyes, so much so, that thousands travel many miles to flock to its ornate buildings.
    You had a source of spiritual riches when knowing the two anointed ones you spoke about.  Sadly, they most likely didn’t understand the light of truth was in themselves, since they bought their spiritual provision from a false prophet. (Matt 25:1-13;;Rev 13:11,12,15-17)  They were captivated by “empty philosophy” just as you are.  (Col 2:8; 1 Tim 4:1; Rev 13:10; 16:13-16)  God’s Spirit dwelled within their heart – the spirit of truth, and His laws were written within it.  (Rom 5:5; 1 John 2:27; Heb 10:16)  Instead, they submitted to the corrupt rulership of an organization built with literal riches.  In your organization, the “living stones” of the Temple are not allowed to shed their “light” God gave them in Spirit, since it would conflict with the false light from your evil slave. (Rev 8:10,11)  Each anointed one, is a “teacher” of the law fulfilled in Christ.  Yet, those who are subservient to an evil slave are restricted from teaching Christ’s truths.  (Mal 2:7; 1 Pet 2:5,9)
     “Don’t collect for yourselves treasures (“or valuables”) on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal. 20 But collect for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves don’t break in and steal. 21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.”  Matt 6:19-21
    Does your organization adhere to this teaching of Jesus? Or, does it tell only its members not to do this?
    I speak of both the Father and the Son.  I listen to the words of Christ, as the Father told us to. (Matt 17:5)
    Jesus answered, “If you knew the gift of God, and who is saying to you, ‘Give me a drink,’ you would ask him, and he would give you living water.”  John 4:10
    John 7:37,38 - On the last and most important day of the festival, Jesus stood up and cried out, “If anyone is thirsty, he should come to me and drink! 38 The one who believes in me, as the Scripture has said, will have streams of living water flow from deep within him.” 
    “Come, everyone who is thirsty,
    come to the waters;
    and you without money,
    come, buy, and eat!
    Come, buy wine and milk
    without money and without cost!
    2 Why do you spend money on what is not food,
    and your wages on what does not satisfy?
    Listen carefully to Me, and eat what is good,
    and you will enjoy the choicest of foods.
    3 Pay attention and come to Me;
    listen, so that you will live.
    I will make an everlasting covenant with you,
    the promises assured to David.
    4 Since I have made him a witness to the peoples,
    a leader and commander for the peoples,
    5 so you will summon a nation you do not know,
    and nations who do not know you will run to you.
    For the Lord your God,
    even the Holy One of Israel,
    has glorified you.”  Isa 55:1-5
     
     
     
     
     
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    Definition of equal  (Entry 1 of 3)
    1a(1): of the same measure, quantity, amount, or number as another (2): identical in mathematical value or logical denotation : EQUIVALENT b: like in quality, nature, or status c: like for each member of a group, class, or society provide equal employment opportunities 2: regarding or affecting all objects in the same way : IMPARTIAL 3: free from extremes: such as a: tranquil in mind or mood b: not showing variation in appearance, structure, or proportion 4a: capable of meeting the requirements of a situation or a task b: SUITABLE bored with work not equal to his abilities     It seems how Paul speaking about economic or financial equality. This is, for sure, sort of social involvement, activity inside one specific group or society that existing inside human society as such. This is sort of socioeconomic conceptual influence on congregations. Perhaps something new for those period. Later we can see similar attempts to achieve such a status for the society of a people, a nation in a country. French revolution and later Communist Revolution sought to achieve equality for their people. And not only in economic status, but in many others - about education, gender, health, race etc. We would call that today - human rights.   Well, Paul's social activism perhaps brought some results in those days. What sort of social activism is today inside WTJWorg? GB solicit or makes petition for donations of all kind. Publicly known reason is, as they say, for "Kingdom interests". What is well known is this. Donation money, it is not used so that brothers in an assembly can pay rent, electricity or water expenses, buy their children books for school, and so on. Using donation money or money that WTJWorg collect in other ways (stocks, real estate sales etc) are not intended for poor members for reason to became less poor or equal to brothers who are materially rich, as Paul imagined for Christian congregation in 1st century.   Charity status of WT and all WT entities or sister companies are for reason to not pay taxes and to receive money from state (where law of country provide such privileges).    Is there a way for GB to turn Paul’s imagination into reality today?      
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    I’m not saying that we are not responsible for paying our taxes.  (By the way, “Jehovah’s organization” has found a way to avoid paying taxes)  Jesus was speaking of our need to separate riches of this world with spiritual riches that he offered in his teachings. Those are the important treasures, which we are to build upon. I am saying that Jesus was preaching new wine, to be put in new wine skins. (Col 2:2; Matt 9:17)  But, the Wt. has proven that they prefer "old wine", where they can build their kingdom in this world ruled by Satan.  (Luke 5:39; 4:5-7)
    “It is not that there may be relief for others and hardship for you, but it is a question of equality”  2 Cor 8:13
    You are telling me that your GB practice financial equality among JWs. That they ensure their abundance is distributed to every JW?   Not possible, is it.  They wouldn't allow it, would they.  
    Your kingdom halls may be built as grass huts or with chandeliers hanging in their foyers as I have seen, according to the financial ability of the congregation.  Conveniently, all are now owned by the organization; a very prosperous move by your GB.  What your leadership does for its offices and assembly gathering places, are far from modest. I'm sure a tour of Bethel will open your eyes...or not.  
     
    What's more important, how clean your buildings are, or how truthful your teachings are; today, yesterday and decades in the past? Jesus said, those whom he sends must produce "fruit that lasts" - it stays, never to rot, never to be tossed away.  Do you understand this?  It is another teaching of Jesus, that your GB don't seem to recognize.  (Matt 23:25-28; John 15:16)  Because your leadership has built its own "temple"/organization, and has rejected God's authentic "house of prayer" built with "living stones", your entire organization is an idol, prophesied to "make war" with the "saints".     (Rev 13:4,7,8)
    You asked what my "story" is.  My testimony about the Temple “living stones”, (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16) the blasphemy and falsehoods of the organization, (2 Thess 2,4; Rev 11:1,2; 13:1,2)  and its wicked slave (Matt 24:48-51; Rev 13:11,12), is why the organization considers me an apostate.  It has nothing to do with sinning against the Father or Jesus Christ; but everything to do with exposing Wt’s lies, which is the location of the "man of lawlessness" that "sits"/rules/stands where it does not belong...in God's Temple.  (Mark 13:14; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1-3,7)
    So, if knowing that I am an apostate on those grounds, causes you to make your decision to "shun" either I or @Srecko Sostar for his reasons, what a shallow and weak decision it is.  We either love the light of truth in Christ and keep seeking it, or we gravitate to darkness, where lies about the Father, the Son, and His dwelling in Spirit, are told. (John 3:19; 2 Thess 2:9-12)
    https://pearl-disgustingthing.blogspot.com/
     
     
     
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    1. To Society Watch Tower, Watchtower and corporations
    2. To Jehovah's Witnesses and all assemblies
    3. To all whom this concern
     
    Declaration on termination of membership to a religious community of Jehovah's Witnesses
     
    I was baptized in 1977 at the age of 17, then a minor. But, in good faith I answered the following two questions just before baptism, which is symbolized my dedication to God in terms of the beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses religion.
    At that time (before the change of June 1 1985) questions have read as follows;
    Have you repented of your sins and converted, recognizing yourself before Jehovah God as a condemned sinner who needs salvation, and have you acknowledged to him that this salvation proceeds from him, the Father, through his Son Jesus Christ?
    On the basis of this faith in God and in his provision for salvation, have you dedicated yourself unreservedly to God to do his will henceforth as he reveals it to you through Jesus Christ and through the Bible under the enlightening power of the holy spirit?
     
    Since I have over decades closely followed the changes in various aspects of activity of this religion, I noticed some frequent collisions (1 John 4:1; 1 Th 5:21). It is visible in: a) the content of the various interpretations; b) in the theory and practice of action in everyday life issues. Overview of many historical aspects of the spiritual heritage, which the organization has, since its inception in the 19th century, left to its members-followers, and wants to cover it up, revise and incorrect display, is astounding. Who wants to drink a water from a cup in which there is a single drop of dangerous substances?
    The purpose of my statement is not to explain doctrine and practices of society and the board of directors, who are disturbed my conscience and reasoning within the love, faith, knowledge and understanding that I feel and I have to God and Jesus Christ and to the people, so I will taxatively single out only a few of them (Rom 14:4). These are obvious example, on the one hand, theological acrobatics from the main church body of Jehovah's Witnesses, and on the other hand, their dishonesty and practice in which one they are learns, and other they are works;
    1) Confusing conceptions about their own identity (Who shared spiritual food? One servant, all 144 000, a composite body or the governing body ...,)
    2) Pragmatism in changing dogmatic interpretations before the change was "firmly biblical established", such as a series of explanations about the "generation" ...,
    3) Speculation about the meaning of biblical statements and how they should be understood. More than once the revised interpretation were in style of YES-NO-YES-NO; then this year's "changed approach to the interpretation of reports from the Word of God" ...,
    4) Switching of responsibility from the governing body and their representatives on the ordinary believers in respect of the decisions and attitudes that members should be carried out, when it becomes apparent that they were endangered spiritually, mentally and literally health of fellow believers (eg, multiple expectations of Armageddon, Malawi and Mexico of the 1970's, questions about blood, juvenile members / Bulgaria /, neutrality ...,)
    5) Co-operation and association with political organizations such as the UN and the OSCE.
    6) Increasingly open calls for financial donations and contributions to the funds of the corporation.
    7) Careless and unkind treatment of victims of pedophilia within the congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses
     
    Regardless of how, as collective or personal, members of the Jehovah's Witnesses will treat me after this letter of resignation, considering the worldwide-known practice of ignoring and avoiding (shunning) that Jehovah's Witnesses apply to all who are outside of their religion ("worldly" people, dissociated and disfellowshipped) - I with fully conscious and reason declare still this; My relationship with the people / persons in the Jehovah's Witness religion and those who are not, is based on the words of Jesus; "Love your neighbor as yourself"; "Love those who hate you"; "Whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them."
     
    I expecting from you, that any kind of information which is stored anywhere, in connection with me and has my full name, such as personal files, or any other files you immediately destroy!
     
     
    Zagreb, July 27/2015 Srećko Šoštar -------------
    Verified by notary public
     
    How do you feel what JW's think about me after reading this? :))
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    What Is Baptism?
    The meaning of baptism
    The Bible compares baptism to burial. (Romans 6:4; Colossians 2:12) Water baptism symbolizes a person’s dying to his past course of life and beginning a new one as a Christian dedicated to God. Baptism and the steps that lead up to it are God’s arrangement for a person to gain a clean conscience based on his faith in the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. (1 Peter 3:21) Thus, Jesus taught that his disciples must get baptized.—Matthew 28:19, 20. - https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/what-is-baptism/
    Even WTJWorg publication explained what is purpose of baptism and in the same time contradict to themselves. Purpose of baptism for individual is not to show others to what sort of organized religion she/he belongs. Baptism not exist for purpose of registration to particular organization. Baptismal question No. 2 in WTJWorg is not in harmony with own published explanation and not in harmony with Jesus' teachings. 
    Question No. 1 Have you repented of your sins, dedicated yourself to Jehovah, and accepted his way of salvation through Jesus Christ? contains elements that can be found in the Bible.
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    "Is it lawful for us to pay taxes to Caesar or not?”
    23 But detecting their craftiness, He said to them, 24 “Show Me a denarius. Whose image and inscription does it have?”
    “Caesar’s,” they said.
    25 “Well then,” He told them, “give back to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s and to God the things that are God’s.”   Luke 20:22-25
     
    Did Jesus say, take half of that coin and give it to God? No. It had Caesar’s name on it, not God’s.   Shouldn’t this tell us that money is not needed to worship God “in spirit and truth”? (John 4:23,24)  Any money that Jesus and the disciples had, was given to those in need – the poor.  Can your organization let go of all of its riches and give them to the poor? (Matt 19:21; Luke 12:33)  After Jesus left the earth, the congregations shared everything, they supported one another.  This is our template to go by.  If you had read the post link, you may have understood.  
     We convince ourselves that we need money for religious purposes, when we are told and believe leaders of a religious organization cannot feed us spiritual food without it. They cannot spread their version of “truth”.  (Matt 23:15)  “There is more money going out, than coming in”, GB Stephen Lett stated. This is manipulation, and we know it worked. People were changing their meager budgets to give to men who were already money-rich. All involved at the top, have this insatiable drive to build and expand on, their fleshly desires. (Matt 19:21-24)   They are now selling kingdom halls to free up money for larger projects.  The development of the organization is the same development as all other religious organizations. So, what sets your religions apart?  Nothing, really; expect the anointed trapped within. (Rev 20:7-9)  It tell lies also, just as other religious do.  Money is required to keep religious leadership’s power and authority stable over the “flock”; no matter if it is the Catholic church, or the Mormon church, or the Wt. organization.  The end result, is power to manipulate another person’s spiritual well-being.  The organization has always thrown up the example of the Catholic church in the faces of its members, expounding on its riches.  Well, when it comes to its own riches, they are dead quiet about it.  There is no transparency at the top.
    What is the distinction between pure worship and false worship?  Pure worship does not require money. The Temple of God, the dwelling of His Spirit, does not need riches to promote “spirit and truth”.  (1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22)  It does not need a physical, literal mountain to worship at.  That was Jesus’ point when talking to woman at the well.  A literal mountain is seen from a distance.  Wt has built many of them, for the world to see, with riches procured from those who have fallen for their deception. (Matt 24:24; 2 Pet 1:16; 2:2) And the organization glorifies its works that they have ‘collected’ in these endeavors. (Luke 4:5-7)  Wouldn’t you agree that other religions have been successful at that also?   Jesus was saying that building organized mountains, are not the way to worship God. 
     Truth in Christ is light, that radiates outwardly from within. (Luke 6:45)  He told those whom HE would send, that they would be a lamp shining in a dark place, just as he was the light of the world. (Matt 5:14-16; John 1:4,5; 13:20) As the source of living water, his words were enough for us to recognize truth and he did not charge money to receive it.  He didn’t ask for donations. If your leaders were truly part of the vine of Christ, they would not expect you to give money for it either.   (John 15:1-6; 7:38)  Riches are not necessary to produce his truth.   
     Can your organization sell all of its riches and give them to the poor? (Matt 19:21)   It has become “treasure” for all who are part of it.  It is their desire of the eyes, so much so, that thousands travel many miles to flock to its ornate buildings.
    You had a source of spiritual riches when knowing the two anointed ones you spoke about.  Sadly, they most likely didn’t understand the light of truth was in themselves, since they bought their spiritual provision from a false prophet. (Matt 25:1-13;;Rev 13:11,12,15-17)  They were captivated by “empty philosophy” just as you are.  (Col 2:8; 1 Tim 4:1; Rev 13:10; 16:13-16)  God’s Spirit dwelled within their heart – the spirit of truth, and His laws were written within it.  (Rom 5:5; 1 John 2:27; Heb 10:16)  Instead, they submitted to the corrupt rulership of an organization built with literal riches.  In your organization, the “living stones” of the Temple are not allowed to shed their “light” God gave them in Spirit, since it would conflict with the false light from your evil slave. (Rev 8:10,11)  Each anointed one, is a “teacher” of the law fulfilled in Christ.  Yet, those who are subservient to an evil slave are restricted from teaching Christ’s truths.  (Mal 2:7; 1 Pet 2:5,9)
     “Don’t collect for yourselves treasures (“or valuables”) on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal. 20 But collect for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves don’t break in and steal. 21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.”  Matt 6:19-21
    Does your organization adhere to this teaching of Jesus? Or, does it tell only its members not to do this?
    I speak of both the Father and the Son.  I listen to the words of Christ, as the Father told us to. (Matt 17:5)
    Jesus answered, “If you knew the gift of God, and who is saying to you, ‘Give me a drink,’ you would ask him, and he would give you living water.”  John 4:10
    John 7:37,38 - On the last and most important day of the festival, Jesus stood up and cried out, “If anyone is thirsty, he should come to me and drink! 38 The one who believes in me, as the Scripture has said, will have streams of living water flow from deep within him.” 
    “Come, everyone who is thirsty,
    come to the waters;
    and you without money,
    come, buy, and eat!
    Come, buy wine and milk
    without money and without cost!
    2 Why do you spend money on what is not food,
    and your wages on what does not satisfy?
    Listen carefully to Me, and eat what is good,
    and you will enjoy the choicest of foods.
    3 Pay attention and come to Me;
    listen, so that you will live.
    I will make an everlasting covenant with you,
    the promises assured to David.
    4 Since I have made him a witness to the peoples,
    a leader and commander for the peoples,
    5 so you will summon a nation you do not know,
    and nations who do not know you will run to you.
    For the Lord your God,
    even the Holy One of Israel,
    has glorified you.”  Isa 55:1-5
     
     
     
     
     
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    Meanwhile a Jew named Apollos, a native of Alexandria, came to Ephesus. He was a learned man, with a thorough knowledge of the Scriptures.  He had been instructed in the way of the Lord, and he spoke with great fervor and taught about Jesus accurately, though he knew only the baptism of John.  He began to speak boldly in the synagogue. When Priscilla and Aquila heard him, they invited him to their home and explained to him the way of God more adequately. - NIV
    Apollos already had accurate teaching/knowledge/faith about Lord. One thing is mentioned here about baptism detail that was different. He was already instructed about Jesus. It would be interesting to see what explanations came from Priscilla and Aquila that are under wording "more adequately".
    Again, please consider what WT doing about "the way of God". They intrusively determine what is "the truth" about God and proclaim those who do not accept it with the name “apostates”. Perhaps JW's today need some new Priscilla and Aquila (married couple, aka female and male teachers) in WTJWorg Organization who would be able to explain the way of God, to temporary GB, more adequately/accurately.  
    We can speak about two things about wording: 
         adverb: adequately:   A) to a satisfactory or acceptable extent. B) to a sufficient degree or extent        adverb: accurately: A) in a way that is correct, exact, and without any mistakes B) without mistakes or errors   A) Was it about Priscilla's/ Aquila's ability as a speakers (educated, substantial vocabulary, etc) who know to adequately and sufficiently explain some more details of the topic to listener who already know core/basic teaching and have accurate information about Jesus?
    B) Was it about Priscilla's/ Aquila's call/need to correct some wrong believes, ideas, perspective of listener?
    ... he knew only the baptism of John.
    Issue of baptism is interesting if you have knowledge about changes on baptismal questions through WT history. If Apollos learned from this Christian couple that you need to be baptized in The Name of ..., how it is possible that JW candidate is baptized in The Name of Organization instead of Father, Son and HS? 
    Question No 2: Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with God’s spirit-directed organization?  ....New: ...identifies you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in association with Jehovah's organization?
    Who today need adequate and accurate explanation? :))
     
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    By teaching that an organization, filled with corruption, in Satan's world will bring JWs salvation, Jesus as the only Way, Truth, and Life, has become less important. (John 14:6; 4:21-24) God's Temple priesthood has become less important. (Matt 16:18) God's Temple has no meaning, but the organization...JWs cannot live without. 
    That's just the beginning of your organization's full rejection of Christ's teachings.  By looking to the brainstorm of men, your leaders have paved the way for going beyond the teachings of Christ.  
    "Come to Jehovah's organization for salvation" Watchtower 1981 Nov 15 p.212
    "Salvation is to be found through him alone; in all the world there is no one else whom God has given who can save us.”  Acts 4:12
    "They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served something created instead of the Creator, who is praised forever. Amen." Rom 1:25
     
     
     
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    Firstly, you may want to consider this quote from God’s Kingdom Rules! p. 195-196, and then remember repetitive "begging" for money by your leaders.    
    Jehovah’s people do not beg for money. They do not pass collection plates or send out letters of solicitation. Neither do they use bingo, bazaars, or raffles to raise money. They hold to what the Watch Tower long ago said: “We have never considered it proper to solicit money for the Lord’s cause, after the common custom . . . It is our judgment that money raised by the various begging devices in the name of our Lord is offensive, unacceptable to him, and does not bring his blessing either upon the givers or the work accomplished.”* The Watch Tower, August 1, 1899, page 201.
    Secondly, and in relationship to this post, many who were told that the food boxes came from “Jehovah”, were also told to think about thanking him by donating to the organization.  These are food boxes generally provided for people with little money.  Why would “donating” even be mentioned?
    Thirdly, you can see my full answer here:
     
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    That, is an ingenious idea! 
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    Part 2.
    2 John 1:9 – “Anyone who does not remain in Christ’s teaching but goes beyond it, does not have God. The one who remains in that teaching, this one has both the Father and the Son.”
    It would help if you or some other JW member put here a list of Christ's teachings. Start with No. 1 please and take as much numbers you need to show all the teachings of Jesus. You can, if you need, name them as "core teachings", and if you find some Chris't teachings as less important, please put them in second list. 
    After that, please make another list of WT past teachings and actual WT teachings. You can also do the same thing, because some JW's claims are, how "core teachings" were and are always the same, despite of "Beliefs Clarified" list by WTJWorg Official web. - https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200277174 , and all publications published till today.
    It would be nice if you and other JW members delete that "dust" you speaking about.
    After such task done, we all here will be able to compare two entities in 2. John 1:9, aka
    Jesus Scale with/vs WTJWorg Scale 
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    2 John 1:9 – “Anyone who does not remain in Christ’s teaching but goes beyond it, does not have God. The one who remains in that teaching, this one has both the Father and the Son.”
    I like this scripture, because it concentrates on Christ’s teachings, not the doctrines of men.  There is a lot said about doctrine that deviates from the teachings of Christ.  His teachings are sound doctrine, which the apostles stressed for us to adhere to.
    “Now I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause dissensions and obstacles contrary to the doctrine you have learned. Avoid them, 18 for such people do not serve our Lord Christ but their own appetites. They deceive the hearts of the unsuspecting with smooth talk and flattering words.” Rom 16:17,18
    “If anyone teaches other doctrine and does not agree with the sound teaching of our Lord Jesus Christ and with the teaching that promotes godliness, he is conceited, understanding nothing, but has a sick interest in disputes and arguments over words. From these come envy, quarreling, slander, evil suspicions, 5 and constant disagreement among people whose minds are depraved and deprived of the truth, who imagine that godliness is a way to material gain.” 1 Tim 6:4,5
    “For the time will come when they will not tolerate sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, will multiply teachers for themselves because they have an itch to hear something new.”  2 Tim 4:3
    So, every time the organization’s leadership uses Prov 4:18 to cover failed doctrine that had no light to begin with, it cannot be said that Holy Spirit played a part in its development, from teaching's beginning to what it has changed into now.   You have an extensive list of doctrine outside of the teachings of Christ.  The generation teaching is just one of them. The "faithful slave" is another. 
     “Beliefs Clarified” does not show the genius of God, Emma.  It shows the foolishness of men, who choose to remain in darkness.
    "But the person without the Spirit does not receive what comes from God’s Spirit, because it is foolishness to him; he is not able to understand it since it is evaluated spiritually."
     
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    Oh, this explains why religious "knowledge" is in evolution mode, and gives answer on why "light getting brighter" with every new study edition (and GB videos on JWTV) of WT magazine :)) 
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    In searching for meaning of "despicable fool" i found this:
    Watchtower 2006 2/15,  Questions From Readers
    What three dangers was Jesus warning against at Matthew 5:22 ?
     
    .... What, then, did the expression “despicable fool” signify? The word used here sounded similar to a Hebrew term that means “rebellious,” or “mutinous.” It designates a person as morally worthless, an apostate and a rebel against God. So the person addressing his fellow as a “despicable fool” is as much as saying that his brother should receive a punishment fit for a rebel against God, everlasting destruction. From God’s standpoint, the one uttering such a condemnation against another could merit that severe sentence—everlasting destruction—himself.—Deuteronomy 19:17-19.
    Consequently, Jesus was setting a higher standard for his followers than that found in the principles behind the Mosaic Law. While people believed that a murderer would be “accountable to the court of justice,” Jesus went further. He taught that his followers should avoid even harboring animosity against their brothers.—Matthew 5:21, 22. - https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2006127
    ... and one comment 9 years ago from fading JW who noticed the connection: 
    Calling someone an “apostate”, “empty well” or “mentally diseased” among other things as they did in the 2011 9/11 Watchtower Study is the same as calling them a “despicable fool”. They clearly established that in their above comments. Even if it were true Jesus made no allowance for such judgmental harsh words. They are bitter because God has not made the words of these “servants” come true. Isaiah 44:26 , “the One making the word of his servant come true, and the One that carries out completely the counsel of his own messengers.”
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    Really Anna?  Just as “trampling” is symbolic for the dominating power of the elder body over the anointed priesthood/Temple, “beating” is also symbolic; as well as the “killing”/disfellowshipping committed by your leadership. (Dan 8:13; Rev 11:1,2)
    Let’s see…the question should be, why are all anointed who stand up and give testimony of Christ, are “beaten” and subsequently, “killed”?  I think you know the partial answer.  You GB won’t have any “despicable apostates” in their midst.
    NWT:  “You heard that it was said to those of ancient times: ‘You must not murder, but whoever commits a murder will be accountable to the court of justice.’ 22  However, I say to you that everyone who continues wrathful with his brother will be accountable to the court of justice; and whoever addresses his brother with an unspeakable word of contempt will be accountable to the Supreme Court; whereas whoever says, ‘You despicable fool!’ will be liable to the fiery Ge·henʹna.”   Matt 5:21-22
    My goodness, did Mr. Morris ever play into that one!
    The other reason, is that those disfellowshipped for rejecting the organization, and testify about the Christ and his Temple, are in fact, walking in his spiritual path of persecution.  He suffered at that hands of his own people, as do the anointed who follow his example. 
    “You are blessed when they insult and persecute you and falsely say every kind of evil against you because of Me.”  Matt 5:11
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in "PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK JEHOVAH", FOR USDA FOOD BOXES   
    Oh Anna.  Mormons preach, Seventh Day Adventists preach, Baptists preach. Many people preach either their church's doctrines or simply about Jesus Christ.   What does it matter if when you preach, you are telling a lie?  What does it matter if your preaching work rejects God’s Temple that JWs should understand and look to, yet you bolster an earthly organization instead? You yourself, have been hesitant with 1914, a foundation teaching of your leadership. - a "core" teaching that has changed as the weather changes.  You know full well what your past leadership has taught. Yet, you support them with your continual preaching work of an organization based on falsehood.  This is hypocrisy!  And it is why I quit preaching for the organization and began preaching for Jesus Christ. (Rev 11:1-3)
     The priesthood/Body has many different gifts that lay untapped in the organization. ( 1 Cor 12:4,7-11,14,15,20,21,25,27,18)  Don’t include the elder body in this, the large majority of which are not the anointed Household of God. (Eph 2:20-22)  Your “steward”/administrator seems to think that the role of a house manager is all-encompassing.  Does a manager of a house do the dishes, wash the clothes, pay the bills, run the errands, cook and bake all the dinners for the occupants?  Or, does he “oversee” all that is produced, and then distribute from every offering the servants of the house provide, those offerings that  will contribute to the health and well-being of all within the house? It’s like a steward of a ship, bringing food to a passenger, that the steward did not cook. In its most simple form, your GB have decided they are to do all of it.  They reject offerings of truth from God’s priests, and if any priest rejects their food, their falsehoods, they are beaten down – disfellowshipped.  (Matt 24:48-51; Rev 13:11,12;15)
    So, basically your GB leadership has created its own counterfeit house (organization) and their way of running is not based whatsoever on Christ's teachings.  (Luke 22:25-27)  A true “faithful and discreet slave” that is chosen as the house manager under Christ – and IN God’s Temple, spiritual House, would not beat his fellow slaves for providing food for the house! This is why so many anointed have been disfellowshipped over the years.
    It’s like a man going away: He leaves his house and puts his servants in charge, each with their assigned task, and tells the one at the door to keep watch.  Mark 13:34
    Who assigns the tasks?  The GB, or Jesus? Well, in your organization, it is the GB.  Now, don't you think every anointed priest is aware of the task Jesus has assigned to them? Should someone else decide what their task is to be? 
    A genuine faithful steward would discern whether the house servants offer Truth, and he would distribute it to all; because the members of the anointed Body SHOULD all speak truth under the spirit of Christ. (1 Cor 12:13; Eph 4:25) We don't find that at all in your organization.
    The Master’s belongings that the steward watches over, are the “true riches” (Holy Spirit) from each servant of the Master, that should be “managed” properly.(  Luke 16:1,2,10-12)  Each gift given to the servants of the Master cannot be ignored.  They are vital to the life of the members and the Body.  (1 Cor 12:25,26)
     All spiritual food offered to others from those Jesus sends, is to be in harmony with the foundation teachings of the Temple, not those of an organization.    
    This, your GB cannot and will not do. They are the “wasteful steward”.  They will give an accounting for their wastefulness; their rejection of not only the gifts offered by the anointed Body, but their rejection of the Body itself.  And, since the Body is one in Christ, they have rejected Christ as well, even though you may mention the name, Jesus.  (Mark 13:22;2 Cor 11:4)
     Their greed for power and authority must be preserved, at all costs.  So, they have appointed their own body, their own chosen priests to run your organization, who do their bidding. Do you see the dichotomy?
    The Temple of God is to stand on its own, as Zion.  But, your organization calls itself Zion.  Two mountains then, are at war in the last days - a counterfeit “mountainlike organization” which tramples those of Daughter Zion; against those who reconnect with the Temple of God by leaving the counterfeit, repenting of their sins to an idol,  and preach the foundation Truth of Jesus and the apostles. (Isa 52:1-3; Rev 2:26-29; 2:1-5; Zech 4:6,7; Rev 8:8,9)
     
    "Wasteful Steward" - https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2012/09/luke161-15.html
     
     
     
     
     
     
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