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Indeed, now he looks like someone who is completely responsible and a serious politician, sorry businessman. lol

Interesting.

I agree that celebrating Christmas is nonsense, because the date of that celebration is not connected with the date of the birth of Jesus. Plus, in general, the custom took on a materialistic character, rather than the meaning of the alleged event. A short visit to church and mass is not enough to bring people closer to Jesus, because most are too busy with formalism and a consumer mentality.

Thanks for update on this in Finland.

I think that the ban on celebrating birthdays is a stupid idea, which has no basis in the Biblical text. A revision of such dogma at WTJWorg is needed. As for "Christmas", the exact date is not known, so its celebration is questionable. In addition, Jesus is not on Earth, so he cannot be congratulated or brought gifts. Let us therefore dwell on the birthdays of mortals. lol

There is no fabrication here, just a perspective on what is being done at WTJWorg. Regarding rationality. GB promised that their instructions would be irrational from the so-called human point of view. What did that say? Does this mean that JWs have a rational or irrational attitude, view towards the instructions that come from the GB? Does this mean that GB promotes irrationality as an advantage that comes to the fore when JWs meekly accept instructions that, from a "human point of view", should be rejected and disobeyed? The GB does not consist of one man but of 9 of them according to the current composition. GB is a Body that, according to their interpretations, does not make personal decisions but collective decisions. In this case, it is not about personal mistakes, but collective mistakes of GB. Given that we have already had the opportunity to see the discrepancy in their public teaching on JWTV several times, we really need to ask ourselves when an individual GB member is expressing a personal opinion, and when he is expressing a collective opinion. Whatever it is, their personal and collective spiritual acrobatics as they teach the audience are often times irrational.

Yes. Yes. If GB claims to be guided by HS in their decisions, then the possibility that their errors are a reflection of "imperfection" is reduced or completely nullified. Therefore, the GB should finally decide on the basic setting; Are they led with HS or are they led with their own mental faculties and beliefs?

However, opinions are an indicator of whether we are more or less sane. With that evidence, someone could start to prove this or that. lol

@George88 Answers are in this comment, again:

Through WTJWorg baptism, a person begins to bear the "burdens" placed on him by religious leaders. The developed Society Method goes in the direction of a person convincing himself that such a "burden" is his own choice and that it was not imposed on him, but that the "burden" was created by the individual's own actions. Something along the lines of; "God wants it", or "God wants me to carry this "burden", or "I want God to "burden" me like this. The "Burden", which became the Real Burden, became the result of a wrong choice made by the person himself by allowing the religious leaders to convince him of the necessity of the choice itself.

Tell me, please, how can imperfect people be perfectly frank in their statements about own mistakes? Doesn't imperfection imply the constant possibility of error, by the own admission of these church leaders? How, then, can the alleged sincerity in statements be spared from mistakes? Is there really such sincerity among religious leaders that does not hide a touch of falsehood?

Proof, evidence of this is all those "JW kids" who left WTJWorg years or even decades later.

lol, "Scriptural maturity" means understanding the meaning of the WTJWorg statement which reads: Children are not fully developed in their ability to think, to reason, or to recognize and avoid danger. (1 Cor. 13:11) After that, the person will also understand the mentioned biblical quote.

According to WTJWorg the alleged "spiritual growth", progress is conditioned by a good understanding and daily reading of "spiritual literature". If we exclude the Bible, which people in general and even JWs themselves will not be able to understand without the aid of WTJWorg, i.e. the huge amount of written material that explains and interprets the Bible, we arrive at the following: "Spiritual growth" in WTJWorg means constant change of theology, clarification and abandonment of "incorrect truths" because of some new "incorrect truths". Indeed, all those baptized children were indeed not "spiritually mature" when they agreed to accept the WTJWorg conditions for baptism.

GB refers to the culture and trend of the business world and politicians, so it allowed the wearing of beards. GB is what the threat is.

We are talking about the baptism of children.

All personal opinions are subjective. All collective opinions are objective.... from the perspective of the group. The saying goes that repetition is the mother of wisdom. That's why I'm repeating it to you, so that you can learn new knowledge. lol WTJWorg's biggest argument against (infant and children, too) baptism in the Catholic Church is all the Bible quotes that, while describing "Biblical Baptisms," do not include infants and children, but only men and women (Act 8:12). You are now making the argument that the "absence of a specific mention", in the Bible, "does not negate a possibility of" certain practice. So you really want to go with such a clumsy way of proving that the Bible doesn't forbid something or how Bible allow something, just because it doesn't talk, write about that something? The Bible does not say anything against, say, celebrating birthdays. God nowhere forbids you to celebrate the day of your birth. So how could WTJWorg, based on the absence of a prohibition in the Bible, claim that God hates birthdays? You now claim that "young people" may have been baptized in the time of John the Baptist. Does the group "young people" include young men and women or minor children? ("Minor" in possible biblical terminology, and also "minor" in today's terminology) And why don't you use the only term that is correct in the context of this topic, which is the term "children"? .....,"Children are not fully developed in their ability to think, to reason, or to recognize and avoid danger." Children, not "young people". Paul said: “John baptized with the baptism in symbol of repentance,a telling the people to believe in the one coming after him,b that is, in Jesus.” . Act 19:4 "But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women" - Act 8:12 Bible purport of term "people" here are "men and women", not children.

"Children are not fully developed in their ability to think, to reason, or to recognize and avoid danger." - claim made by by WTJWorg

WTJWorg claims that children are not enough mentally competent. quote: "Children are not fully developed in their ability to think, to reason, or to recognize and avoid danger." Consequently, this means that they are not mature enough to make decisions about their religious affiliation with the WTJWorg through the act of baptism, because; "they are not fully developed in their ability to think, to reason and to recognize and avoid danger" for dedicating his life to the Religious Corporation. No. How on earth you came to such conclusion?

WTJWorg has made a public statement with very clear meaning regarding the mental capacity of children. They made a general statement that covers all children. As supposed proof that their claim is justified and correct, they used one biblical verse. In what context is Paul's statement from this biblical quote applicable? Its 13th chapter deals with the spiritual and religious aspects of one's understanding of God's dealings with men. He talks about knowledge and love and faith. Paul is not talking about CSA. Nor is there any indication that he was alluding to the CSA. WTJWorg used it in the context of a life situation that can affect the youngest members of a family and society in general. Why do you think that this is the only application that this Bible passage can cover? Don't JWs teach that the Bible is the Word of God that helps people in ALL circumstances of life? I dismiss your criticism as baseless. I am horrified by your ability and desire to try to selectively apply what WTJWorg baselessly uses only for their current needs of religious domination over people. This shows that you are a successful "student" of your spiritual "teachers".

7 Children are not fully developed in their ability to think, to reason, or to recognize and avoid danger. (1 Cor. 13:11) https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2019400 However, contrary to statement above they should be baptized as soon as possible as we can see from article bellow, said by WTJWorg. Should My Child Put Off Baptism? Occasionally, even when children qualify for baptism, their parents may decide that it should be postponed. What may be their reasons? I fear that if my child gets baptized, he might later fall into serious sin and get disfellowshipped. Is it reasonable to believe that a young person who puts off baptism will not be accountable to God for his conduct? Solomon directed the following words to young ones: “Know that on account of [your actions] the true God will bring you into judgment.” (Eccl. 11:9) And with no exception as to age, Paul gave this reminder: “Each of us will render an account for himself to God.”—Rom. 14:12. Both baptized and unbaptized worshippers are accountable to God. Do not forget, Jehovah protects his servants by ‘not letting them be tempted beyond what they can bear.’ (1 Cor. 10:13) As long as they ‘keep their senses’ and fight temptation, such ones can count on God’s support. (1 Pet. 5:6-9) A Christian mother writes: “Children who are baptized have more reasons to stay away from the bad things of the world. My son, baptized at 15, feels that baptism is a protection. ‘You don’t think about doing something contrary to Jehovah’s law,’ he said. Baptism is a strong motivation for righteousness.” If you have trained your children by word and example to obey Jehovah, you can be confident that they will continue to do so after they are baptized. Proverbs 20:7 states: “The righteous is walking in his integrity. Happy are his sons after him.” I would like to see my child reach certain goals first. Young people should learn to work so that, in time, they can be self-sufficient. But there is danger in encouraging them to take up a lifestyle centered on education and financial security instead of true worship. Regarding a “seed,” or the word of the Kingdom, that does not grow, Jesus said: “As for the one sown among the thorns, this is the one hearing the word, but the anxiety of this system of things and the deceptive power of riches choke the word, and he becomes unfruitful.” (Matt. 13:22) Plans for a life that subordinates spirituality to worldly goals can snuff out a young person’s desire to serve God. Commenting on youths who qualify for baptism but whose parents do not agree, an experienced elder said: “Preventing a young one from getting baptized can break his spiritual momentum and lead to discouragement.” And a traveling overseer wrote: “A youth could begin feeling spiritually insecure or inferior. He might look to the world to gain a feeling of accomplishment.” https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2011441

Related to the beard issue is the issue of tattoos on the body. The Law of Moses forbade the Jews from tattooing. But, JWs do not care about the Mosaic Law to such an extent that its rules would guide them through today's life. JWs today tend to adapt the Bible's permissions and prohibitions to fit their circumstances. Although I am not a supporter of tattoos, it will be a new experience to observe how GB will regulate this segment of the free will of its members, when it becomes so current that it captures GB's attention.

Do you think that women do better in the kitchen while handling pots, and that carrying a microphone is a spiritual activity that requires greater spiritual ability or even ambition?