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  1. Srecko Sostar
    If you by Christians means only JW, then i would make this kind of observation. JW members in each period of time received and accepted "The Truth" as it was in the specific moment when they became JW. So, if someone been baptized in 1940 period, for him "The Truth" was been in one shape and form. For those in 1970 period, shape and form looks different then few decades before. For those in 1990 era, "The Truth" also changed shape and form in comparison to generations before, ....and until today same process is going on as well. We can call it "new light", "new understanding", "rowing" or with any other terminology that can arise and be invented, incorporated for justification why new interpretations are better, more accurate than old one. To connect your comment and mine. Strategy by satan is to much perfidious for humans, to be able aware of apostasy. If JW of 1940 era thought how they clearly saw difference between two teachings and was sure how they had "The Truth", then how is possible that JW from 1970 era saw false teaching about 1940 JW brothers, and how is possible that 1990 era brothers was also been able to detected all false teaching that satan used in JW past periods for purpose to undermine and pollute previous periods of pure teachings of WT? And now modern JW also can see how his brothers from 1990 period was been under influence of teachings that was been undermined and polluted by satan, again. What if process of never ending "new understanding" is nothing else but constantly present impact and process caused by devil and his influence by which he "poisoning" every "new understanding" in different proportions ?
  2. Srecko Sostar
    :)))))))) believe me, biscuits are better for you .... in this situation.
  3. Srecko Sostar
    .... did they used Urim and the Thummim?... have they thrown the dice? It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us ... For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us... The Holy Spirit and we have agreed ... The Holy Spirit has shown us that we should not... For it is seen to the Holy Ghost and to us ... In those times, people of today said so, miracles had took place and ended in 1 century. No more any gifts, no more any inspired words, no more any inspired works. No more inspired writings .... aka publications .... in WT Company :)) So, if Spirit influenced apostles and elders to made decisions, please will somebody say, explain HOW that was happened? How humans and celestial spirits had communicated ....... and made decision ?
  4. Srecko Sostar
    who sees see what is not possible to see :))) For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit. "inspired" "motivated" "carried along by" :)) At least four-five spirits are in existence and have influence: 1)JHVH spirit 2)Jesus spirit 3) Holy spirit 4) Devil spirit 5))Human spirit So, we are living in a World/Worlds with so many INSPIRATION and INSPIRED persons :))))
  5. Srecko Sostar
    ..... so the story goes .....
  6. Srecko Sostar
    No, they used Urim and the Thummim :))))
  7. Srecko Sostar
    ... and here comes to surface, to day light our own, personal Conscience Integrity, Intellect Honesty, Freedom of Speech among/inside WT Organization who, with GB, are standing on Dogmatic Standpoint, dogmatic stance that is ready to declare such, a different opinion as apostasy, and to dfd person because of that.
  8. Srecko Sostar
    Place me like a seal over your heart, like a seal on your arm;
  9. Srecko Sostar
    As I see from quotations from WT publications that was brought on day light in Witness posts, it is understandable how GB class view themselves and their Organization. They see themselves as God's Spoke Persons, as Representatives, as Ambassadors, as Substitution instead Christ, as Prophetlike Organization, and logically if Organization is Prophetlike, than must exists people in such Organization who are Prophets in some or any sense of the meaning of this word Prophet. (for example if JW leaders and members as whole group talking and teaching people, how future brings this and that, all who "preaching" such things are not only people who speaking about what they personally believe, they are not only messenger, agents, but sort of "prophets" too. No matter did they or did they not, personally or as group, source alone of some claim about future or just making repetition from Bible "prophesies". Next thing. Bible said how we have two sort of "Prophets" and two sort of "Prophecies". True and False. Well, in fact, no matter in what class some "Prophet" and "Prophecy" belong, he or she is "Inspired" by default. Because "Prophecy" as such must be "Inspired", otherwise it is not "Prophecy". Logically follows the conclusion: Any person or group (as single or if belong to some organization) who talking about what will be, what the future brings , are some sort of "Inspired Prophets". Because person is and must be "Inspired" or "Motivated" to bring such stuff to other people. Is some "Prophecy" false or true ?? This is another story. :)))))) "Political leaders often end up being “false prophets” unable to fulfill their promises. Of course, not every ruler turns out to be a “Hitler,” whose promised “thousand-year reich” proved to be a disastrous 12 years of misrule. ... A very prominent political “prophet” of our present century was the League of Nations, formed in 1919. It foretold a world of lasting peace. But World War II unceremoniously dumped it into a pit of inactivity." Awake! 1981 Dec 8 p.14 In this Awake article we can see how far WT Company extends, stretching the meaning of the word "prophets" and "prophecy". If you give promises to someone you are Prophets. Interesting! :)))))))))))))))))
  10. Srecko Sostar
    Many people wish, want to know what is, how looks Context about some issue. That is because of reason to be able to understand more and better some issue, and if they have to make some decision about to be sure they will make good choice. Here is example how WT "scribes" manipulates with Context !!!!!! Reasoning from the Scriptures, page 89, Cross; The Imperial Bible-Dictionary acknowledges this, saying: “The Greek word for cross, [stau·rosʹ], properly signified a stake, an upright pole, or piece of paling, on which anything might be hung, or which might be used in impaling [fencing in] a piece of ground. . . . Even amongst the Romans the crux(from which our cross is derived) appears to have been originally an upright pole.”—Edited by P. Fairbairn (London, 1874), Vol. I, p. 376. Text in red color is missing text in Reasoning book. Very important CONTEXT. Oh, context always problem with you:))) _____________________________________________________ The Imperial Bible-Dictionary acknowledges this, saying: “The Greek word for cross, [stau·rosʹ], properly signified a stake, an upright pole, or piece of paling, on which anything might be hung, or which might be used in impaling [fencing in] a piece of ground. But a modification was introduced as the dominion and usages of Rome extended themselves through Greek speaking countries. Even amongst the Romans the crux (from which our cross is derived) appears to have been originally an upright pole and this always reminded the more prominent part. But from the time that it began to be used as an instrument of punishment a transverse piece of wood was commonly added; not, however, always even than..... The following text continues, describing the types of crosses and the ways in which the convicts were murdered...,others extending their arms on a patibulum. There can be no doubt, however, that the later sort was the more common and that about the period of the gospel age crucifixion was usually accomplished by suspending the criminal on a cross piece of wood. But this does not itself determine the precise form of the cross; .... the text continues to describe 3 types of crosses.—Edited by P. Fairbairn (London, 1874), Vol. I, p. 376. Please, if you know some more examples about similar "intellectual dishonest" give example
  11. Srecko Sostar
    Ok. I will start new with topic about CONTEXT. greetings!
  12. Srecko Sostar
    LITTLE Appendix for those who want presence of so called Context. Here is example how WT "scribes" manipulates with Context !!!!!! Reasoning from the Scriptures, page 89, Cross; The Imperial Bible-Dictionary acknowledges this, saying: “The Greek word for cross, [stau·rosʹ], properly signified a stake, an upright pole, or piece of paling, on which anything might be hung, or which might be used in impaling [fencing in] a piece of ground. . . . Even amongst the Romans the crux(from which our cross is derived) appears to have been originally an upright pole.”—Edited by P. Fairbairn (London, 1874), Vol. I, p. 376. Text in red color is missing text in Reasoning book. Very important CONTEXT. Oh, context always problem with you:))) _____________________________________________________ The Imperial Bible-Dictionary acknowledges this, saying: “The Greek word for cross, [stau·rosʹ], properly signified a stake, an upright pole, or piece of paling, on which anything might be hung, or which might be used in impaling [fencing in] a piece of ground. But a modification was introduced as the dominion and usages of Rome extended themselves through Greek speaking countries. Even amongst the Romans the crux (from which our cross is derived) appears to have been originally an upright pole and this always reminded the more prominent part. But from the time that it began to be used as an instrument of punishment a transverse piece of wood was commonly added; not, however, always even than..... The following text continues, describing the types of crosses and the ways in which the convicts were murdered...,others extending their arms on a patibulum. There can be no doubt, however, that the later sort was the more common and that about the period of the gospel age crucifixion was usually accomplished by suspending the criminal on a cross piece of wood. But this does not itself determine the precise form of the cross; .... the text continues to describe 3 types of crosses.—Edited by P. Fairbairn (London, 1874), Vol. I, p. 376.
  13. Srecko Sostar
    Reasoning from the Scriptures, page 89, Cross; The Imperial Bible-Dictionary acknowledges this, saying: “The Greek word for cross, [stau·rosʹ], properly signified a stake, an upright pole, or piece of paling, on which anything might be hung, or which might be used in impaling [fencing in] a piece of ground. . . . Even amongst the Romans the crux(from which our cross is derived) appears to have been originally an upright pole.”—Edited by P. Fairbairn (London, 1874), Vol. I, p. 376. Text in red color is missing text in Reasoning book. Very important CONTEXT. Oh, context always problem with you :))) _____________________________________________________ The Imperial Bible-Dictionary acknowledges this, saying: “The Greek word for cross, [stau·rosʹ], properly signified a stake, an upright pole, or piece of paling, on which anything might be hung, or which might be used in impaling [fencing in] a piece of ground. But a modification was introduced as the dominion and usages of Rome extended themselves through Greek speaking countries. Even amongst the Romans the crux (from which our cross is derived) appears to have been originally an upright pole and this always reminded the more prominent part. But from the time that it began to be used as an instrument of punishment a transverse piece of wood was commonly added; not, however, always even than..... The following text continues, describing the types of crosses and the ways in which the convicts were murdered...,others extending their arms on a patibulum. There can be no doubt, however, that the later sort was the more common and that about the period of the gospel age crucifixion was usually accomplished by suspending the criminal on a cross piece of wood. But this does not itself determine the precise form of the cross; .... the text continues to describe 3 types of crosses.—Edited by P. Fairbairn (London, 1874), Vol. I, p. 376.
  14. Srecko Sostar
    I agree with your personal view. Give me permission to remind you how Watchtower OFFICIAL teaching is stake, torture stake and nothing else. Because cross is pagan symbol and JW not support nothing that has pagan origin. You walking on red line of dfd. :)))
  15. Srecko Sostar
    Do you really want to believe it? :))
  16. Srecko Sostar
    No not at all. Context is everything. Please, what extra clarification, through context aka additional Bible verses aka contextual support people would need to understand this command about not eating animal blood? With what other Bible verses, you think you have to, you need to, to give more explanation for purpose of understanding. Command is clear in his words, only what people need sometimes is answer on question, Why. But here at the moment we not need answer on Why not eating blood, but we discus do we need extra CONTEXT about one Bible verse. Context means to have more Bible verses (not only one) who support one verse and idea in that verse, that maybe is questionable or unclear. In question on blood and procedure of blood transfusion i would ask, What context in Bible show us that transfusion of blood in medicine treatment is under ban, is under command of not eating (or drinking) blood? What Bible context can be used to clarify that? You say "Context is everything". Please give us Context. BUT Context, NOT Interpretations. Not possible meaning and Not possible application. I am not supporter of eating or drinking blood, for sure. But we also have to know how some people eating flesh of some animal, in one part of the world, and this is something disgusting for people in other part of the world. Same was been with old Israel nation. God forbidden them not only to eat blood, but also to eat some animal meat, flesh, or forbidden to eat some part of animal flesh that was given for food. Later, that same God showed how he do not care what animal you eat, and what parts you eat (clean or unclean). Ban was connected to nutrition, feeding. Not with medical methods of healing.
  17. Srecko Sostar
    When the Bible talks clearly about ... and when you or me or someone else believe that with all our heart .... it is understandable you want share that hope with others.
  18. Srecko Sostar
    Apologize, but what does this mean, The GB have decided they cannot be dogmatic and claim what God's thoughts are. They doing that all the time, open publications and you will see how they impute such thing to Jesus, for example, while explaining this or that doctrine. "They decided"?. Please when and how they DECIDED not to be dogmatic. Did they making public statement about own Dogmatism? Or JW members get this impression how GB are not dogmatic any more as they been before? :))
  19. Srecko Sostar
    This would imply, the lack of respect for local laws. Billy! Title of this post, heading is about "The Truth...." All here, old enough as JW members, very well know what means phrase "The Truth". This title "At what moment "The Truth" has ceased to be "The Truth"?" was intentionally created to give possibility to speak, to give comment on various and very different subjects as someone wish, but all that have purpose to show how many issues is possible to open and questioning and commenting under "The Truth" title. But please, be concentrate when you respond to some comment, in this case mine. I clearly and directly connect Governing Body aka GB with human rules that is created by that same GB ....and NOT talking about secular, or local laws as you said. So, to clear it for purpose of issue. If GB making rules are those rules under warning that Jesus and apostles named with "human rules and commands"?? (Mark chapter 7 + Isaiah) Their worship of me is worthless. The things they teach are only human rules.’ 8 You have stopped following God’s commands, preferring instead the man-made rules you got from others.”
  20. Srecko Sostar
    It depends on the context of what is being discussed. That is a philosophical aphorism which is true in a general case, for most things, most of the time. There are only two mistakes one can make along the road to truth: not going all the way, and not starting. I cannot teach anybody anything; I can only make them think. You can ask me to look for the truth, but you cannot ask me to find it.
  21. Srecko Sostar
    I do not understand this question at all. For help you what i mean by GB context. Example; Bible command say: Do not eat blood. Very simple imperative, almost nothing else is need to understand. For this command you not need any other verse from Bible for purpose of some so called Context. Is this OK with you? If you respond with YES, i will continue.
  22. Srecko Sostar
    Thank you, but i am not talking about my ability. Question is, in what context GB put, push verses .... and how JW members reacting if they, as persons with ability to understand things too, blindly follow the human rules.
  23. Srecko Sostar
    If we cut an apple in 4 pieces, 4 parts, are this 4 still an apple? If we cut this 4 pieces of apple in more 4 and have 8 pieces, are they still an apple? If we putt all this 8 parts or whole apple in blender, result will be.....? What? :))))))) Drink for apple lover.
  24. Srecko Sostar
    Sorry, but what my comment have with "feminism" issue. :))
  25. Srecko Sostar
    It is amazing how Bible itself, and of course, especially with help of interpretations made by church leaders and bible scholars, making confrontation inside book itself and inside people's mind. Obey your leaders and submit to them, VS Do not put your trust in princes nor in a son of man, for they are keeping watch over your souls VS who cannot bring salvation
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