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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in 1914   
    We can fail in our interpretation of “prediction”. The “added bonus” is Satan’s display of deceit.  If we believe Satan cannot deceive on such a large level, we are ignorant to his deceptions.  1 Pet 5:8; Eph 6:11,12; 2 Cor 11:13-15
    If Jesus’ kingdom is “no part of this world” why would we look to Satan’s kingdoms for the signs of God’s Kingdom to arrive?
    “ Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, “The kingdom of God does not come with observation; 21 nor will they say, ‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’ For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you.”
    22 Then He said to the disciples, “The days will come when you will desire to see one of the days of the Son of Man, and you will not see it. 23 And they will say to you,  ‘Look here!’ or ‘Look there!’ Do not go after them or follow them. 24 For as the lightning that flashes out of one part under heaven shines to the other part under heaven, so also the Son of Man will be in His day.   Luke 17:20-24
    “does not come with observation” -  αρατήρησις, in such a manner that it can be watched with the eyes, i. e. in a visible manner
    So, those who have a great following, encourage their adherents to look for observable signs in the earthly world, as evidence of the Kingdom to come.  The leaders are saying, “See here! See there! Look here!  Look there! 
    We are warned not to go after them, not to fall for their dates that have failed, or must be twisted to fit a new prophetic understanding of them. I listened to some of Garret Losh’s speech to the Gilead graduates, where he listed a large number of failed prophetic dates for Armageddon, announced by people over the ages – one failed date per person.   He then touched on the failed time table of the organization’s leaders, of which many, he didn’t reveal.  Your leaders have been consistent in failing at observing the physical signs, to prove the coming of the Kingdom of God. Losh’s ploy of stating the long listing of failed prophesies before touching on WT’s failed predictions, was to minimize the mistakes by WT; as if to say, “see, we have committed less blunders than what you have just heard”. 
    Jesus said it would come in the symbolic form of lightening flashing “under heaven”.  If the signs are not “observable” this isn’t speaking of literal lightning to be literally seen.  We know that lightning, rain, hail, snow in the Bible can have a symbolic tie with words, knowledge, blessings, judgment, condemnation. God and Christ use faithful servants to speak these words “at the proper time”.  (Job 37:3,11,12; 38:34,35; Rev 4:5; 5:6;
    This sign of lighting, flashes of light meaning the revealing of spiritual understanding, is not sourced in anointed who still set their eyes on observable signs in the world. The world’s signs are steeped in Satan’s darkness, the sign of the coming of Christ, is the opening of Revelation scrolls and knowledge of what they mean.
    “Those who have insight will shine like the bright expanse of the heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness, like the stars forever and ever.”
    "Many will be purified, cleansed, and refined, but the wicked will act wickedly; none of the wicked will understand, but those who have insight will understand.”
    Dan 12:8,9; Rev 10:7; Amos 3:7;Rev 5:1,2,5,7,9,10; 1:1-3; 2:7,17,28; 1 Pet 1:19
    Men who continually focus on the world’s actions, failing consistently in their effort to relate it to Christ’ arrival, should prove to us that light – understanding –is not sourced in Satan’s world. It only shows the darkness and foolishness that resides in their hearts.   Rom 1:18-22
    “ But God shows his anger from heaven against all sinful, evil men who push away the truth from them. 19 For the truth about God is known to them instinctively; God has put this knowledge in their hearts. 20 Since earliest times men have seen the earth and sky and all God made, and have known of his existence and great eternal power. So they will have no excuse when they stand before God at Judgment Day.
    21 Yes, they knew about him all right, but they wouldn’t admit it or worship him or even thank him for all his daily care. And after a while they began to think up silly ideas of what God was like and what he wanted them to do. The result was that their foolish minds became dark and confused. 22 Claiming themselves to be wise without God, they became utter fools instead.”  Rom 1:18-22 LB
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Witness in 1914   
    Now faith is assurance of things hoped for, a conviction of things not seen. Heb 11 1
    Faith as state of our mind and heart, not need evidence. Because when you see evidence you don't need faith for what you see and about what this particular evidence serve to prove. Only "evidence" Abraham and Sarah received was spoken promise. Words they received was in form of Promise, and not in form of Testimony or Indication. If, that they then did a miracle, made from people/angels who gave Promise, for example to make bread - (of) - from stones, that would serve to Abraham and Sarah, as Indication - sign, how another miracle, future birth of son, is also possible. I that case her "faith in promise" would be supported by Evidence of bread made from stones.
    Definition of evidence
     (Entry 1 of 2)
    1a: an outward sign : INDICATION
    b: something that furnishes proof : TESTIMONY specifically : something legally submitted to a tribunal to ascertain the truth of a matter
    2: one who bears witness especially : one who voluntarily confesses a crime and testifies for the prosecution against one's accomplices
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in IBSA, ORIGINAL INTERNATIONAL BIBLE STUDENTS.   
    Um, a suspicious silence from those who usually mock me.  
    The Watch Tower Society opened overseas branches in London (1900),[40] Germany (1903), and Australia and Switzerland (1904).[41] The Society's headquarters were transferred to Brooklyn, New York in 1909.[42]
    International Bible Students Association[edit]
    In 1910 Russell introduced the name International Bible Students Association as a means of identifying his worldwide community of Bible study groups. He wrote:
    Russell explained that the Association would be directed and managed by the Peoples [sic] Pulpit Association which, in turn, represented the Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society. All Bible Student classes using Watch Tower Society publications could consider themselves identified with the Association and were authorized to use the name International Bible Students Association in connection with their meetings. The name was also used when advertising and conducting Bible Students conventions.[46]
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    A number of schisms developed within the congregations of Bible Students associated with the Watch Tower Society between 1909 and 1932.[2][3] The most significant split began in 1917 following the election of Joseph Franklin Rutherford as president of the Watch Tower Society two months after Russell's death. The schism began with Rutherford's controversial replacement of four of the Society's board of directors and publication of The Finished Mystery.
    Thousands of members left congregations of Bible Students associated with the Watch Tower Society throughout the 1920s prompted in part by Rutherford's failed predictions for the year 1925, increasing disillusionment with his on-going doctrinal and organizational changes, and his campaign for centralized control of the movement.[2] William Schnell, author and former Jehovah's Witness, claims that three-quarters of the original Bible Students who had been associating with the Watch Tower Society in 1921 had left by 1931.[4][a][6] In 1930 Rutherford stated that "the total number of those who have withdrawn from the Society... is comparatively large."
    I haven't found any mention of any of this in the 'God's Kingdom  Rules' book, but I'll keep looking. 
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Witness in 1914   
    Very, very good, like it very much!
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in 1914   
    Faith is based on a promise to come.  From our faith in the evident demonstration God’s Word supplies us, we develop within ourselves, faith in the promise; not by what we see happening in the world, which is Satan’s counterfeit “evidence”.  If we intently observe the literal “ruining of the earth” as a sign that the Kingdom is to arrive, we have put our hope in Satan’s ability not only to ruin the earth but bring forth the Kingdom.    When I read your comment, it appeared to me that you were explaining people’s selective blindness to the destruction already happening in the world…that YOU see.  Because those certain people do not use that as evidence of the Kingdom arriving, you seem to apply their faith is not genuine.   Your message was contradictory; while explaining literal destruction as the basis of one’s faith in the coming Kingdom,  in your next comment, you then try to explain the unseen powers that have negatively affected the earth, as evidence to put one’s faith in.       
    Yes, Satan is making an all-out effort to literally ruin the earth, but Revelation speaks of Satan’s ability to ruin the “earth” through the outpouring of deception, of lies.  His Beast from the Sea doesn’t emerge from the literal sea. Rev 13:1 The “sea” represents wickedness (Isa 57:20; Jude 1:13,12)  The Beast “makes war” with the “earth” – God’s people/saints/”mankind” under the “woman” covenant  by using blasphemy – demonic expressions. Gal 4:26;  Rev 13:5-7; 16:13,14
    “So the serpent spewed water out of his mouth like a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away by the flood. But the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed up the flood which the dragon had spewed out of his mouth.” Rev 12:15,16
    (For any interested…Pearl Doxsey – “Earth Swallows Satan’s River”)
    None of the above is literally happening on the literal earth.  Its significance is spiritual and occurring in the organization, where God’s anointed “inhabited earth”/owned “land” (John 14:23; 1 Cor 3:9; Eph 2:21,22; 2 Cor 6:16) is swallowing Satan’s deceitful, poisoned waters, through the teachings of a fallen anointed “star”.  Rev 8: 10,11; Amos 6:1,12; Heb 12:14-17 (Matt 5:13; 2 Pet 3:7; 1 Pet 4:17
     
    This composite leadership has JWs believing in Satan’s earthly manifestations as evidence of the Kingdom’s arrival, which is a lie.   For everyone under the Harlot’s rule, it would be wise to heed Rev 18:4-8
    “They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all.”  Even so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.”  Luke 17:27,30
    Satan’s flood, spoken by those who deliver it, brings with it, destruction.   God enacts the judgment against its deliverers, because of its evil intent, to kill off the "remaining ones of the woman's seed".  Dan 7:7,8,21,23,25; Rev 12:17,15; Dan 11:10
     And the twenty-four elders who are seated on their thrones before God fell down on their faces and worshiped God, 17 saying,
    “We give thanks to you, Lord God All-Powerful,
        the one who is and the one who was,
    because you have taken your great power
        and have begun to reign.
    18 And the nations were angry,
        and your wrath has come,
        and the time for the dead to be judged,
    and to give their reward to your slaves the prophets
        and to the saints and to the ones who fear your name,
        the small and the great,
    and to destroy those who destroy the earth.”  Rev 11:16-18
     
     
     
     
    http://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/06/symbolic-earth.html
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Witness in 1914   
    Faith is the assured expectation of what is hoped for,+ the evident demonstration* of realities that are not seen. - Heb 11:1
     
    wind ... big bang that can be measured ....intelligent design
    These things are not, shouldn't be your FAITH in things you expecting and hoped for. Basically, faith is your inner feeling how something is, was, will be. And YOU ARE evident demonstration of realities that are not seen. YOU by your faith, hopes with private and public manifestations making them as are real.
    When you counting: wind, measurement instruments and design, people not need your faith as evident demonstration, because they can do it without you. 
    When you talking about God, Miracles and future Kingdom, these are things that need, required  to be VISIBLE in FAITH (we can call this part of Faith with another name - Imagination), your's and in faith of people you preaching. Heb 11 1 speaking about future, well this sort of faith is looking in the future aspects. Part of faith about past that has some material evidences of thing that took place, but also about many things you can't prove with historical tools. In that case you also need faith (imagination) about something that was not visible any more.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in 1914   
    That’s not what Hebrews is saying:
    "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. 2 For by it the elders obtained a good testimony.
    3 By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible.
    By faith Abraham obeyed when he was called to go out to the place which he would receive as an inheritance. And he went out, not knowing where he was going. 9 By faith he dwelt in the land of promise as in a foreign country, dwelling in tents with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise; 10 for he waited for the city which has foundations, whose builder and maker is God.  Heb 11:8-10
    These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off were assured of them, embraced them and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.  Heb 11:13
     
    About the Christ:
    “Though you have not seen him, you love him; and even though you do not see him now, you believe in him and are filled with an inexpressible and glorious joy”  1 Pet 1:8
    Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."  John 20:29
     
    About the signs of the coming Kingdom:
    "Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, “The kingdom of God does not come with observation; nor will they say,‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’ For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you.”  Luke 17:20-21
    "For we walk by faith, not by sight."  2 Cor 5:7
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from James Thomas Rook Jr. in A DPA question   
    As i know, Bulgarian Government and representatives for JW's made "friendly agreement" more than 20 years ago: 
    "The applicant undertook, with regard to its stance on blood transfusions, to draft a statement, for inclusion in its statute, providing that members should have free choice in the matter for themselves and their children, without any control or sanction on the part of the association."
    According to this, blood issue aka full blood, is no more question or religious teaching where WT Society have monopoly over members decisions. 
    You and I know the difference. :))
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in A DPA question   
    As i know, Bulgarian Government and representatives for JW's made "friendly agreement" more than 20 years ago: 
    "The applicant undertook, with regard to its stance on blood transfusions, to draft a statement, for inclusion in its statute, providing that members should have free choice in the matter for themselves and their children, without any control or sanction on the part of the association."
    According to this, blood issue aka full blood, is no more question or religious teaching where WT Society have monopoly over members decisions. 
    You and I know the difference. :))
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to TrueTomHarley in A DPA question   
    Srecko, I am sorry. It is not your fault. It is mine.You have plainly stated that English is not your first language. If I had to express myself in another language, I....well, I wouldn’t be able to do it.
    But there are times when I can detect a general odor from one of your remarks, but if someone asked me exactly what is the point that you are making, I would have to answer “I haven’t a clue.’
    Ideally, I should spend whatever time it takes to decipher it, but times when I do, I usually end up saying: “Oh...it is that point JTR was making” and I got it from him a whole lot easier, plus with some cartoons thrown in.
    I almost feel mean posting this. You are doing your level best to malign Witnesses & perhaps I should feel it my duty to bear with it and discern whatever it is you are trying to say, but I am not always up to it.
    Sorry.
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in A DPA question   
    Yes, two ways. You can tell a lie, half-truth, truth without some important elements ... etc. ... if that is helping God' and Jesus' and Kingdom' interests here on Earth. But when you have to tell about same things to elders you are not entitled to use "theocratic warfare". :)))
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in A DPA question   
    To clarify my reasoning on this matter ... I know that the Bible says "abstain from blood".
    I know that there are MANY examples in the Bible that show God considers blood his own personal property, and should be respected as such. 
    I know that the only acceptable use for the Blood Jehovah is jealous about being his alone, is to be poured out on the ground, or offered in sacrifice to him, as David exemplified in pouring out water that REPRESENTED the blood of his soldiers, and the example of Jesus, who did both.
    That being said, I have comprehensive blood tests all the time, having the reasonable assurance that after it is tested and studied, it will be discarded in some manner.  I also realize that it is the RESPECT that is important ... the deeply held respect for Jehovah's blood, not getting upset because a properly drained air-breathing animal leaks blood from tissues after having been properly drained to a reasonable degree.
    That being said, I do not impose my conscience in that or MANY other matters on others, as there is a considerable difference between the viewpoints I hold on MANY matters, that differ from "Brother Watchtower's".  An example of this, should I have a home invasion, or assassins  enter the Kingdom Hall to harm the Brotherhood, I have no qualms at all about killing them, if I am able to do so.
    Their blood is on THEIR hands by their criminal actions.  Every living thing that walks, crawls, swims or flies on this planet has the NATURAL right to defend itself, if it decides to do so, and if it can manage a defense.  Their blodguilt belongs to them alone.
    .... but I digress.
    It is my carefully considered belief that the WTB&TS had it right the FIRST time, and changed it because they were being sued by people who had lost relatives for HAVING THE TAKING OF BLOOD BEING A DISFELLOWSHIPPING OFFENSE.
    I appreciate the Societies work in educating us in the past, and I believe it is an important life and death issue, spiritually, but not every soldier can be Sgt York, Audie Murphy, or the fictional John Rambo.
    No one has asked me, and I certainly DO NOT want to "drive the train", but years of observing the operational habits of the Watchtower legal staff in "legal dirty tricks" to subvert Justice to save their client, the WTB&TS  from financial bankruptcy, has led me to believe that the Society STILL knows that they got it right the FIRST time, but they screwed up in not making it a personal matter of conscience IN THE BEGINNING ... and now they are trapped in a no win situation that FINANCIALLY, they cannot admit they were wrong about Congregational sanctions.
    So, they make up stuff out of thin air, having NO Biblical support, about the acceptability of blood fractions.  To me this shows a COMPLETE lack of institutional integrity, and any personal integrity .... FOR MONEY!
    I will not accept blood or blood fractions because of the things I learned in the Truth, from the 1960's, but after trying to engender respect for God's blood, Ieave the sanctioning and punishment up to God.
    After all, it's POSSIBLE that this ONLY applies to ONLY food, and/or the issue of deep respect for the things that belong to God .... and that God does not care at all about medical technology uses of blood. 
    I have made the statement MANY times that our current theologies are being formed by the accountants and lawyers in the employ of the WTB&TS.
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    The Bible does condemn know-it-all busybodies, who try to control every aspect of other people's lives.
    It's like eating fish .... each person has to decide for himself ... what is good, and what needs to be thrown away.
    RONCO BASS-O-MATIC 76 .wmv
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in A DPA question   
    @JW Insider  I am seriously concerned about your above comment. It all seems to be based around a few MEN making decisions for the lives of 8.5 million other people.  BUT those few MEN are NOT INSPIRED BY GOD'S HOLY SPIRIT.  It is only THEIR personal viewpoint. And it can take the lives of millions of people. 
    What then did Jesus mean at Matthew 12 v 9 through 12. ? 
    After departing from that place, he went into their synagogue, 10  and look! there was a man with a withered* hand!k So they asked him, “Is it lawful to cure on the Sabbath?” so that they might accuse him.l 11  He said to them: “If you have one sheep and that sheep falls into a pit on the Sabbath, is there a man among you who will not grab hold of it and lift it out?m 12  How much more valuable is a man than a sheep! So it is lawful to do a fine thing on the Sabbath.” 
    Doing any work on that Sabbath could be punished by death. It was that serious in God's eyes. 
    Yet here was Jesus telling them that it was 'lawful' to do a fine thing on the Sabbath. 
    @Anna tells me that we should all read our Bible and have our own conscience. 
    @Arauna tells me that all i do is misquote scripture.
    BUT, I listen to neither men (GB / Elders) nor women. My conscience tells me that Jesus was saying that there is a time, when what appears to others to be God's way, is in fact not God's way at all. 
    How much more valuable is a man than a sheep! So it is lawful to do a fine thing on the Sabbath.” 
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in A DPA question   
    Does this mean that you rely on your GB to tell you it is a “conscience matter” ?
    Can you not decide from your own Bible reading what is right in God's eyes ? 
    Quote "Does it mean that there legitimately are two different ways of looking at a matter, .. ? "
    Tom, who decides if it is 'legitimate' or not ?  Are you not therefore just doing the things your GB tells you to do ?
    I would use the scripture at Matthew 12 v 9 through 12 myself. 
    Verse 12   How much more valuable is a man than a sheep! So it is lawful to do a fine thing on the Sabbath.
    Was Jesus just allowing 'wiggle' room to do a fine thing on the Sabbath ? I don't think so. I think Jesus was setting a pattern for us to follow. For us to know in OUR hearts what is right. Not to rely on other men to decide for us. 
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to TrueTomHarley in A DPA question   
    Question: (serious question open to all)
    When something is said to be a “conscience matter”—as the “blood fractions” today is said to be—does that mean that there IS a right and a wrong to it, but Jehovah allows “wiggle room” “on account of our hardheartedness”?
    Or
    Does it mean that there legitimately are two different ways of looking at a matter, and he really does encourage us to use our conscience in choosing the course that seems the most reasonable to us?
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to James Thomas Rook Jr. in The Catholic rosary got a digital upgrade — but it’s a mixed blessing....   
    Actually, Moses was the first one to download data from "The Cloud"

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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in 1914   
    It is a voluntary commitment which requires upholding the principles of the UN and its function.  It is a choice to become part of the world that the WT teaches its members to stay out of.  Of course, to uphold the principles of the Beast of WT, is sheer hypocrisy.
    There are two general categories of NGOs: (1) operational NGOs, whose primary purpose is the design and implementation of development-related projects, and (2) advocacy NGOs, whose primary purpose is to defend or promote a specific cause and who seek to influence the policies and practices of IGOs – Intergovernmental Organizations.  (APA Office of International Affairs)
    “Only those who do not wish to see, can be deceived”  D.H.
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in 1914   
    You have to remember, no one demanded that they become an NGO.  It has nothing to do with "subjection to superior authorities."  It has everything to do with integrity, which the GB/organization have none of.  
    What were the other services that required them to become an NGO?  Do you know?  Do you know why they are NGO members in other countries?  I don't.  What need would an organization that believes it is directed by God, have in taking part in the nations of the world?  How do you correlate THIS to Moses' day?  Just think  about it.  
    From the book, "What the Watchtower Society Doesn't Want You to Know"
    The question was, “Has the criteria for getting a library pass to the United Nations changed?”
    Reply:
    “The procedure for a library pass is the following:  the interested party needs to fill out an application form and supply a letter of recommendation in support of the research.  If the needed material is not available in the UN depository library (the list of depository libraries is posted at:  http://www.un.org/depts/dhl/deplib/countries/), the application is approved and sent to UN Security.  UN Security checks the application and, if approved is granted, instructs the Pass office to issue a library pass for the applicant. 
    The issuance of a library pass is independent of NGO status or any other status.  There has been no change in the library policy.”  
    Best Regards
    [Name]
    Senior Reference Librarian
    UN/SA Reference Desk
    United Nations Library, New York
    They didn't become an NGO simply to acquire a library card.
     
     
    The anointed do have a special “use”, to be a working priesthood, but contrary to scripture they are told to wait. 1 Pet 2:5,9; Eph 2:20-22  The elder body has been given special treatment, even special honor, as a priesthood to replace them.  This is truly an abomination.  2 Thess 2:4; Rev 11:1-3
    We honor Christian elders when we show respect for their position and follow their direction. We also honor them by commending them for their hard work.  WT 17/3/8
    It is incredible, that respect is to be given to a position created by men, but not to a position created by God.  
    Although it is a wonderful privilege to have the heavenly calling, anointed Christians do not expect any special honor from others. (Eph. 1:18, 19; read Philippians 2:2, 3.) Jehovah’s spirit bore witness to them personally. No announcement was made to the world. So they are not surprised if some people do not readily believe that they have truly been anointed by holy spirit. In fact, they realize that the Scriptures advise against quickly believing someone who claims to have a special appointment from God. (Rev. 2:2) WT 16/1 p. 22
     Honor is given to the elders but not to God’s “special possession”. 
    “Then the king will do as he pleases, and he will exalt himself and will consider himself above any god, and he will speak horrendous things against the God of gods, yet he will succeed until the period of anger is finished, for what is determined will be done."  Dan 11:36
    Do elders have a special appointment from God?  Your leaders tell you they do.  They hand pick them.  If the organization belonged to God, He would clearly make known who His priesthood is.  Only they would be leading the flock.  As it is, the anointed are there, invisible, and JWs should question why this is so.   Rev 13:1,2,5-10
    Most likely no one told the anointed priests up until the introduction of the organization, that they must WAIT…to offer sacrifices of praise as holy priests and to “teach” the sheep as priests were obligated to do.  The faithful ones followed the direction of their Head, Jesus Christ.   The apostles acted like priests and taught the incoming anointed how to also.   Man’s “organization” changes the whole dynamics of scripture; bending God’s decrees to suit what men have built.   2 Chron 13:9; Ezek 44:6-9
     
     
     
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in 1914   
    Do you recommending "silence"? Silently disagree with some official teachings and stay (or go out) without warning others about dangerous of such teachings? That is against principles WT Society use itself,  to warn people about some dangerous that you see it exist and can harm people. (Ezekiel book)
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in 1914   
    Is she valid "witness"? ...of ALL things?? Can she explain clearly and with complete memory? How much witnesses of this sort we have, 2 or 3? 
    After all, if they remembered ALL this relevant things as "signs of events", that is not proof how WT Society doctrinal explanations and interpretations are "the truth".  
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in 1914   
    Does this mean that the stipulation outlined here, doesn’t apply to the organization?
    A UN/DPI letter dated March 4, 2004, states, "The principal purpose of association of non-governmental organizations with the United Nations Department of Public Information is the redissemination of information in order to increase public understanding of the principles, activities and achievements of the United Nations and its Agencies."[15] The letter explained that " by accepting association with DPI, the organization agreed to meet criteria for association, including support and respect of the principles of the Charter of the United Nations and commitment and means to conduct effective information programmes with its constituents and to a broader audience about UN activities.
    How, does the organization increase the understanding of, and support the UN Charter, and condemn them at the same time as the Wild Beast from the Sea who conquers God’s “saints”?  Rev 13:16,17   That is lying in bed with the enemy, unless it really isn’t the enemy.   
     
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in 1914   
    Because of this, the woman ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, on account of the angels. 
    What is that “symbol”?
    11 Nevertheless, neither is woman anything apart from man, nor is man anything apart from woman in the Lord. 12 For just as the woman is from the man, thus also the man is through the woman. But all things are from God.
     13 You judge for yourselves: is it fitting for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered? 14 And does not nature itself  teach you that a man, if he wears long hair, it is a dishonor to him? 15 But a woman, if she wears long hair, it is her glory, because her hair is given for a covering. 16 But if anyone is disposed to be contentious, we have no such custom, nor do the churches of God. 1 Cor 11:10-16
    What custom?  The custom of the Jews in 1 Cor 11:3-10
      
     
     
     
     
    Yes, yes I know.  Is that the reason the organization is an NGO a member in other countries?
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    Srecko Sostar reacted to Witness in 1914   
    I had to read this twice, since I kept seeing "identified with the UN".  Which in their various ways, they certainly have.  It was another stumbling block for me, to find out about their NGO membership  in the '90's.  Although this topic has been hashed and rehashed here, it's not something many who see the WT's hypocrisy, can easily drop.  
    Wikipedia:
    In February 1992, Jehovah's Witnesses' New York corporation, the Watchtower Society, was granted association as a non-governmental organisation (NGO) of the United Nations Department of Public Information (UN/DPI). The Watchtower Society requested termination of the association in October 2001, and the DPI disassociated the NGO on 9 October[12] after the matter was reported in The Guardian.[13][14] A UN/DPI letter dated March 4, 2004, states, "The principal purpose of association of non-governmental organizations with the United Nations Department of Public Information is the redissemination of information in order to increase public understanding of the principles, activities and achievements of the United Nations and its Agencies."[15] The letter explained that " by accepting association with DPI, the organization agreed to meet criteria for association, including support and respect of the principles of the Charter of the United Nations and commitment and means to conduct effective information programmes with its constituents and to a broader audience about UN activities."[15] The official site further notes that association with the UN/DPI "does not constitute their incorporation into the United Nations system, nor does it entitle associated organizations or their staff to any kind of privileges, immunities or special status."[16]
    Jehovah's Witnesses have appealed to the United Nations Human Rights Committee about sanctions against their members' activities. Between April 2013 and early April 2016, Jehovah's Witnesses submitted 48 appeals to the United Nations Human Rights Committee, complaining that punishments for sharing faith violate the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.[17]
    I think it’s very possible, that the WT does not believe the UN is the Beast of Revelation 13:1,2.   Why utilize the power of the "Beast" to save their organization,  when God's power is almighty?  
    “Woe to the rebellious children,” says the Lord,
    “Who take counsel, but not of Me,
    And who devise plans, but not of My Spirit,
    That they may add sin to sin;
    2 Who walk to go down to Egypt,
    And have not asked My advice,
    To strengthen themselves in the strength of Pharaoh,
    And to trust in the shadow of Egypt!  Isa 30:1,2
    Rom 16:1,2  - I commend to you Phoebe our sister, who is a servant of the church in Cenchrea,  that you may receive her in the Lord in a manner worthy of the saints, and assist her in whatever business she has need of you; for indeed she has been a helper of many and of myself also.
    "servant", from the Greek word, διάκονος diákonos, dee-ak'-on-os; probably from an obsolete διάκω diákō (to run on errands; compare G1377); an attendant, i.e. (genitive case) a waiter (at table or in other menial duties); specially, a Christian teacher and pastor (technically, a deacon or deaconess):—deacon, minister, servant.
     
     
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    It is more easier and with less repercussions if you question the Bible. But to question GB ... :))) 
    How will ordinary "rank and file" know who "anointed" is? By watching JWorg broadcasting? :))
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    Srecko Sostar got a reaction from Witness in 1914   
    Do you recommending "silence"? Silently disagree with some official teachings and stay (or go out) without warning others about dangerous of such teachings? That is against principles WT Society use itself,  to warn people about some dangerous that you see it exist and can harm people. (Ezekiel book)
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