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  1. Wow! A) Jesus didn't provide no information's to GB, because miracles stopped in 1 century :)) What does one have to do with the other? I’m sure, not even you can sustain such notion. B) Ideas that GB imagined to be "truth" was "empowered" by?? in their everyday Bible reading Who in the world is “??” that can’t be described as the power of God. C) Truth can't be neither imperfect nor perfect. "The Truth" can be - or truth or lie Are you suggesting the apostles and prophets were “perfect"? D) GB statement in WT article: Of course, Jesus did not tell us that his faithful slave would produce perfect spiritual food.” Watchtower 2017 Feb p.26 is complete nonsense. Why? Does this mean the rest of Christendom is dispensing the “correct” spiritual food to its followers knowing full well that in one instance, they “accept” the killing of their fellow man under the claims of patronage? Does that make the POPE, equal to Christ, since the Vatican long held the office of the papacy to be infallible? Does that mean, the Holy Wars are justified? You, out did yourself Srecko. You ex-witnesses make me laugh! If you are going to keep misrepresenting that article. At the very least try to understand “WHY” it was written and for what purpose, it can be compared to the action and behavior of the rest of Christendom as a whole. Not only has this site lost its academic approach, but also the front page caption and description of intelligent people.
  2. Are you somehow suggesting the Old Testament is the Only truth, and the New Testament was inspired by lies? That's a first. Did Jesus see the writers of the OT? Hmm! 🤔
  3. Only if you don't understand the message and misrepresent it just like any other ex-witness. You have to do better Srecko. There are intelligent people out there that can see even in a cloud of smoke. 😁
  4. I would suggest you go back to school, and restart not from middle school but from elementary. Your grammar and language skill argument is just the same ignorance you use, when you can't win an argument intelligently. Only obtuse people, argue language and grammar. Srecko has been here long enough to understand people, just like people here understand where Srecko is coming from. If they don't they usually ask for clarification. A nut as yourself should have learned that long ago. The fact you make it an argument, continues to illustrate how childish you really are. Blah! Blah! Woof ! Woof! Take you feeding bottle like a good little girl! 😁
  5. You just spoiled it! Did that spiritual cell keep you incarcerated? You are here in defiance of the Watchtower. You are here in defiance of scripture. I believe your jailer is not the Watchtower, but Satan, that holds you mentally blind and captive in that hypothetical cell of yours. 🤔
  6. WOW! I didn’t know, in your world, saying someone takes your words literally actually means I am insulting them for their grammar. I guess, I need to attend that obtuse class you are taking. But it’s to be expected from you!
  7. That is the problem with interpretation of the constitution. While, the “bill of rights” have a definitive language the constitution was set to where no infringement could be possible to the constitution itself. When Madison and the founding fathers were framing the constitution they took into account, state rights to a militia. When the federalist and anti-federalist were making that argument, to an extent, they were arguing about undisciplined militia that the continental army had to contend with when fighting the British. Who had the power to organize that militia? Who had the power to train that militia? Back in the day. Anyone could have a weapon on their home that was of age to support the state. That age started at 16 or 15 with the parents’ permission. That governance, practically included all households in the 13 colonies. Looking at it with a modern view, which would apply to all households in the U.S. by its territorial expansion. What isn’t taken into account by those that don’t really understand the U.S. constitution is the word “militia”. It was not just meant as an action for WAR, but also to curve STATE insurrections. Oddly enough. The argument also included propositions on who could have a long rifle verses pistols and swords. Therefore, State representatives arguing the Madison and Ellsworth proposal wanted the State to retain that power. That’s what was happening in 1787 in the convention in Philadelphia. How to consolidate the Federal and State laws to everyone’s satisfaction. Now the federal Militia Act of 1792 did make a distention, on how-to provide “discipline” to the self-armed populace. Not to take or give arms. Under those conditions of the constitution, not just the bill of rights, gives any householder the right to bear arms. AS, A SELF-ARMED POPULACE. They only way to remove that clause, is to REWRITE THE CONSTITUTION.
  8. Correct. There are 6 cops that got shot. All doing well and will survive. It's still a standoff with the shooter. The cops went to execute an arrest warrant when the shooter, started!
  9. I guess to stupid people as yourself, I would have to consider writing things in some other language in order to be understood. Once again, your idiocy in grammar is such an idiotic way to prove you as ignorant and unintelligent. Retire as a half-idiot, not a blathering one.
  10. Keep in mind the Watchtower is NOT the Vatican with its own police force and military army that it garrisons in Vatican City by the Via di Porta Angelica Rd. The Watchtower doesn’t have prison cells like the Vatican. Therefore, by your explicit criticism of the Watchtower. What you are insisting on, the Watchtower should not consider the “separation” of church and state even though Jesus instructed Christians to do so. Matthew 22:21 Which structural governance punishes the guilty with punitive and mandatory punishment of incarceration? Romans 13:1 What you are actually implying is, DEFY Jesus and his instructions. Does that make any sense to a Christian?
  11. Just curious Srecko. You keep implying the Watchtower is wrong for somehow having two different standards between crime and sin that you speculate they shouldn't have. Under the definitions you submitted, Which Sin under Crime do you believe secular law gives the Watchtower to PUNISH a person under the authority of crimes and punishment? Please be specific! On how the Watchtower should punish a crime of pedophilia for insistence, that secular law man's law won't have a problem with. I don't recall, where the Watchtower has incarceration cells for the wicked. 🤫 And how those that have paid their debt to society for a crime should have a different meaning for the Watchtower and not other religions or for secular law that implements those laws.
  12. This is one complete failure in your part. The Watchtower instructs their members to trust in God that the spiritual food given does conform to scripture. Therefore, people reading irrational comments on apostate sites should consider the deception given by ex-witnesses.
  13. What do overseers, Bishops, Deacons, Leaders have in common in 1 Timothy 3:1-13? Therefore, even by your standards of irrational thought, today's Elders qualify since they are anointed by God’s Holy Spirit. Your obstructionist view, your misguided view, your hateful view won’t redefine scripture to elevate you on something you will never be, part of Christ Body and part of Christ church. If you cannot abide by Paul’s Pastoral Epistles to Timothy, your accomplice has forsaken you as much as you have forsaken God. Qualifications for Overseers 3 The saying is vtrustworthy: If anyone aspires to wthe office of overseer, he desires a noble task. 2 Therefore xan overseer1 must be above reproach, ythe husband of one wife,2 zsober-minded, self-controlled, respectable, ahospitable, bable to teach, 3 not a drunkard, not violent but cgentle, not quarrelsome, dnot a lover of money. 4 He must manage his own household well, with all dignity ekeeping his children submissive, 5 for if someone does not know how to manage his own household, how will he care for wGod’s church? 6 He must not be a recent convert, or he may fbecome puffed up with conceit and fall into the condemnation of the devil. 7 Moreover, he must be well thought of by goutsiders, so that he may not fall into disgrace, into ha snare of the devil. [1] I won’t argue who is the “body of Christ” since it’s clear, no one here ever got it right by the Watchtower teachings if they think the anointed are the only one’s comprised of that body, when indeed scripture refers to the body as the church. The gift the 144,000 will have is a gift to serve Christ in the heavens as anointed kings while the rest of the anointed followers by God’s Holy Spirit will rejoice on earth. The only separation of Christ Body, is in “terminology” that’s it. Christ church will remain united regardless of what you think, in the heavens and on earth, and “all” true Christians are part of Christ Body as a church. 1 Corinthians 12:27 27Now you are the body of Christ, and each of you is a member of it. 28And in the church God has appointed first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then workers of miracles, and those with gifts of healing, helping, administration, and various tongues.…
  14. You can spin it all you want. Misapplying scripture is not going to get your resolve, granted. The chosen back then, just like today under the confines of Christianity are chosen by the spirit of God. Danker, Greek NT Lexicon (DAN) [DANK] ἅγιος ἅγιος, α, ον [Skt. assoc.] ‘set apart for dedication to the interests or expectations of deity’, holy – a. of things, holy, sacred, consecrated: Jerusalem as holy city Mt 4:5; God’s temple τὸ ἅγιον 1 Cor 3:17, also τὰ ἅγια Hb 9:12; faith that equals an extraordinary relationship to God Jd 20; vegetation Ro 11:16; nt. as noun: τὸ ἅγιον someth. that has been consecrated Mt 7:6. – b. of pers., holy: of God as worthy of ultimate reverence J 17:11; of Jesus: while unborn Lk 1:35, as noun ὁ ἅγιος τοῦ θεοῦ Mk 1:24; most frequently of the Holy Spirit Mt 1:18 al., and esp. in Acts; of transcendent entities dedicated to the service of God 1 Th 3:13; 2 Th 1:10; frequently of believers in general οἱ ἅγιοι God’s people, special people, saints Ro 1:7; 1 Cor 1:2; Col 1:26, and specifically marked by behavior exhibiting their dedication to God Eph 1:4. You keep inferring only to the saints when scripture includes those that have been commissioned to take the lead. Therefore, Elders can be included. The Watchtower GB can be included as well, but their purpose is more profound and should be held to the highest standard in the service of God. That keeps them spiritually effective as a group of anointed fulfilling the dispensation of spiritual food at the proper time, but also as the 7 wise men among the sheep to shoulder that spiritual responsibility. You insist in “hiding” the different gifts God assigns! That is an unconscionable act. Christian Heresy! The basic principle is delineated with two “as” (ὡς, hōs) clauses (“as God apportioned to each”; “as God called each one”) followed by two “thus” (οὕτως, houtōs) clauses (“live thus”; “I ordain thus in all the churches”). The verb μερίζειν (merizein) means to “assign,” “divide,” or “distribute something,” as in the apportioning of the promised land to the various tribes (Num. 26:52–56; Josh. 14:5). Paul does not specify, however, what it is that the Lord has apportioned to each one (see additional note). In Rom. 12:3, he uses the verb to refer to “the measure of faith that God has assigned to each one” (ἑκάστῳ ὡς ὁ θεὸς ἐμέρισεν μέτρον πίστεως, hekastō hōs ho theos emerisen metron pisteōs) and then rattles off a list of gifts (12:4–8).3 He argues in 1 Cor. 7:7 that “each one” has different gifts, and he may be thinking here of the different measures of faith, grace, or gifts they have received from Christ to live out their Christian calling (so Calvin 1960: 151; Conzelmann 1975: 126; Lang 1986: 96; Schrage 1995: 133). If the verb refers to the gifts apportioned to them by God (cf. 3:5; 12:4–11), it would underscore the assorted endowments each one has in the community. There is no one way for a Christian to live his or her calling, because each is to live in line with his or her gifts (Talbert 1987: 40). To try to become something one is not or to expect others to do so is a recipe for disaster. If Paul intended the object of the verb ἐμέρισε to be “spiritual gifts,” it is perhaps surprising that he does not use the same verb when he discusses the distribution of varying gifts in chapter 12, particularly in 12:7, where he writes “to each is given [ἑκάστῳ … δίδοται, hekastō … didotai] the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good.” Other interpreters argue that the verb’s object is the individual’s lot in life, which the Lord has assigned, “the circumstances … in which the believer was providentially placed at the time of his conversion” (Godet 1886: 353; so also Lightfoot 1895: 228; Findlay 1910: 829; Weiss 1910: 184; Holl 1928: 219; Héring 1962: 54; Barrett 1968: 168, 170; Fee 1987: 310; R. Collins 1999: 283; Thiselton 2000: 549). The philological evidence for the meaning of καλεῖν (kalein, to call) and κλῆσις (klēsis, calling, 7:20) is crucial for determining what Paul intends.[1] Therefore, the only counterfeit priest here is you and your application of misguided understanding of script. The simplest and the most evident on your misunderstanding, who are all in the “body of Christ” that you continue to dwell on as a self-proclaimed anointed. Anointed and anyone, being saved by the spirit is part of that body. You have overplayed this false theory. A new theme is needed! 1 Corinthians 12:12-27 English Standard Version (ESV) One Body with Many Members [1] Garland, D. E. (2003). 1 Corinthians. Baker exegetical commentary on the New Testament (302–303). Grand Rapids, Mich.: Baker Academic. As, the above shows even, Biblical scholars disagree with your approach. However, I've grown tired. Give Srecko a more false approach to scripture. He'll give a good review.
  15. Is it any longer than what you post? That would depend on you and if you understand 1 Peter 5:3. The first century Elder by comparison still had more authority than what secular law allows modern day Elders. Therefore, Today's Elders are commanded by God to uphold the cleanliness and spirituality of the congregation. Then you need to fully appreciate 1 Corinthians 6:2, since in this case Paul is referring to brethren suing each other. It would not be conceivable that a Christian that sued a fellow Christian for theft of service, or thereof, could NOT settle that argument only through Roman law. That became a standard for other more serious Christian sins. You know the list, why deny it. Then it becomes a matter between spiritual cleansing and crime and punishment by secular authority. A right, the early Hebrew nation had. In modern times, it remains the same format for modern Elders. In that sense, the Elders are NOT running people’s lives, but they do have a scriptural obligation and moral duty before God to keep the congregation clean. Acts 20:28 Of all people here, you should know better! Luke 17:3

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