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  1. BillyTheKid46

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    For some reason. JW’s here decided it was their obligation to intervene and criticize when the Watchtower saw itself in the middle of child abuse cases. There are many qualified members around the world to accept the challenge Satan has put before the Watchtower. Just like the Watchtower meet its distinct challenge when it was in trial for freedom of religion, they are qualified to handle these serious matters. Allow the powers that be to show the world, the Holy Spirit guides our fellowship. You have a good head on your shoulder not to be influenced by false religion. However, you have renounced your fellowship due to the circumstances of child abuse. You don’t appreciate how people conduct their interpretation of scripture. I can respect that enough to say that many here that consider themselves part of the fellowship that submits themselves to their own understanding of scripture, as it has been displayed here, merits no concessions or consideration. However, you also say the GB doesn’t interpret scripture also. 1. Hebrews 13:17-25 English Standard Version (ESV) 17 Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they are keeping watch over your souls, as those who will have to give an account. Let them do this with joy and not with groaning, for that would be of no advantage to you. This is, in FACT, part of scripture is it not? What part do you disagree without becoming part of the same problem others have. In the last days, there will be a great apostasy. What has been happening with the Watchtower since the 80’s that we can find common ground on? If you reject the Watchtower because of its imperfection, what part of the fence are you in. Would this be a motive to give God pause and say, my faithful servant has turned away from me, because, why? You can fill in the blanks. 2. Matthew 7:1-5 Judging Others 1 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. 3. Matthew 23:2 4. Revelation 3:16 15 I know your deeds; you are neither cold nor hot. How I wish you were one or the other! 16So because you are lukewarm— neither hot nor cold— I am about to vomit you out of my mouth! This is part of scripture is it not? Once again, what part would you disagree with in order not to be seen as anyone else that doesn’t understand scripture and are using their personal interpretation to highlight their understanding rather than the following scripture as a whole? Taking things out of context has always been a dishonest endeavor from opposers to command some kind of great intellect. 5. Matthew 5:37 New King James Version (NKJV) 37 But let [a]your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ For whatever is more than these is from the evil one. The third and final one for now. But critique the above and ask, when you say, who is interpreting scripture, correctly. The fellowship follows God’s instructions. I’m not referring to the ones here. These people deserve the same chance God is giving you, me and anyone willing to submit to God’s kingdom as it is now, as it was back then with all the imperfection man had to offer. I will be mostly silent for a while. I fell and broke a rib. It doesn’t hurt as much as to see how Satan is winning the war on those professed loyal ones that were baptized in order to continue Christ work unblemished by the utterance of their mouths. Luke 21:15, Proverbs 6:2 You’re a good egg Bulter, however misguided you are. Work on your internal conflicts by asking God for help. Ephesians 4:31-32, Matthew 5:9. I’m not your judge Butler, you have done that to yourself. If your married and your wife goes to the meeting, join her with an open mind that Satan is doing his level best to have you see and feel conflicts. If she doesn’t because you are winning her over with such arguments, then win her back to a righteous path. Remember the quest. It’s to win your mortal soul for everlasting life. John 12:25 that would be a good reason to fight a good fight according to scripture without any misguided interpretation. 1 Timothy 6:12
  2. BillyTheKid46

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    You guys kept making the point for me on how the “admin” allows you, TTH and many others and didn’t allow allensmith34. It makes no sense. But enough of this silliness. Back to topic, the owner has the right to hate and refuse whomever he wants. For all, we know TTH is the ADMIN and JWinsider is the Librarian. Whatever the case may be, they have moderator powers to delete. You’re fighting for truth. How are you accomplishing this by misguided ideas? If you were fighting a good fight for truth, you would adhere to scripture. At what point does this confuse you.
  3. BillyTheKid46

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    my thought exactly about you. Too bad God never revealed anything to you given your renunciation.
  4. BillyTheKid46

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    It appears your ideology is flawed in the other thread. But since the topic here is Open Club, Private Club, JW club I believe you can carry the same misconception of ideology to a private club called JW only. A good example of this misconception that can be discussed privately amounts to misguided secrecy as in spies. That has a far more reaching implication such as the bible student era and what it had to offer in redefining the original Christian ethics of learning. A lot of it is misunderstood, example: Rebuttal by: Bible Student monitor The claim is made that Russell “introduced occultism into his religion by teaching that the pyramids in Egypt are divine omens.” This falsehood has even been placed in a book, entitled, Spiritual Rape Exposing the Hidden. (Page 14) The statement and often its context have been quoted over and over across many forums on the web, and although many have pointed out the falsity of the statements, the site owners continue to display such statements of deception, thus promoting such false claims. However, we find that almost every sentence misrepresents the facts, putting the matter politely. The statement quoted above contains at least two errors, and appears on several sites: (1) Russell did not introduce “occultism” into his religion, not unless you mean that he adopted the religion of the Bible, which the Bible itself states remains a secret to the world. This would reflect a usage of the word occult as simply meaning secret, not related to heathen occultism. (2) Russell did not teach that “the pyramids in Egypt are divine omens.” Russell’s study of the Great Pyramid (not “pyramids” — plural) in Egypt had nothing to do with demonic /heathen occultism, nor with pagan heathen worship. The word “occultism” is defined as “a belief in supernatural powers and the possibility of bringing them under human control.” The implication of the the word in most Christian circles is that demonic spirits are used, a form of witchcraft (crafty wisdom). Russell never believed in, nor taught such an idea. Indeed, he was very active in warning against forms of witchcraft, occultism, Spiritism (talking with the dead), etc. Russell never spoke of any pyramid in Egypt as being a “divine omen.” It is claimed that Russell taught that “they [the pyramids of Egypt]” contained prophetic secrets known only to him.” Again, the false idea of “pyramids” — plural — is presented. Russell was interested in only one pyramid, not pyramids. I have not been able to find where he ever made such a claim that the Great Pyramid contained prophetic secrets known only to him. Of course, in what he had found in his studies that added to, or was different from, what others had written before him, he could have claimed that what he had written did have information not found in the studies of authors before him? He never claimed sole proprietorship on the study of the Great Pyramid, however, as can be seen by his announcements and recommendations of the Edgars’ studies on the Great Pyramid (which did not fully agree with his own conclusions as presented in the Studies in the Scriptures). The phrase is used that Russell was “convinced of their [the pyramids of Egypt] mystic power.” First, Russell was not convinced of any mystic power of any pyramid in Egypt, and certainly not “pyramids” [plural]. He never wrote of any “mystic power” associated with the Great Pyramid, or any other pyramid. This is totally a false and misleading statement, designed to malign and misrepresent what Russell actually did teach. How does this misunderstanding stand up to the bylaws set in the JW only club? And who would be allowed to contest such a misunderstanding if the same players have the ability to remove someone just because they don’t agree with them? In whatever language they use to offset the language given. Not everyone here is phishing to author a book.
  5. BillyTheKid46

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    I believe there was something far more elaborate you had in mind. But, never say you don't make fun of someone when you do that's the ridiculous part, just as if you think some of your posts are.
  6. BillyTheKid46

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    How does this differ from Bulter, and others that use abusive and insulting language? You make no sense in trying to justify. There is no justification and using this scripture for justification is immoral given the slander here. But enough side. The Admin likes who he likes, and that's the bottom line.
  7. BillyTheKid46

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    If that’s the case, you offer the same, so where is your lying truth? Intelligence comes with reasoning and thought, none of which you have. It’s clear you never grew spiritually. 😏
  8. I hope to God you will one day understand the significance of 1914. The misapplication of The Bible Students analogy however different end up being the same, but with less clutter. In order to understand, you would have to investigate what the prelude was in 1874, 1878, 1881, 1898, 1901, 1904, 1906, 1910, 1911 or wait that’s a firearm, 1913, 1914, 1915, and their correlations. What was the experience between 1916-1919? Russell, while still learning was insightful. There are many publications to research. Be not surprised, then, when in subsequent chapters we present proofs that the setting up of the Kingdom of God is already begun, that it is pointed out in prophecy as due to begin the exercise of power in A.D. 1878, and that the "battle of the great day of God Almighty" (Rev. 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1915, with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership, is already commenced. The gathering of the armies is plainly visible from the standpoint of God's Word. STUDY IV THE TIMES OF THE GENTILES What are Gentile Times?—Their Beginning; Their Length; Their End A.D. 1914—Attendant Events—Events to Follow—Literal and Symbolic Time—A Remarkable Type—Present Indications—God's Kingdom to Overthrow Gentile Rule—Therefore Organized Before It Ends—Before A.D. 1914—Why Opposed by Gentile Kingdoms—How and Why All will Finally Accept it Joyfully—"The Desire of All Nations Shall Come." Was he talking about an earthly kingdom? No that came from opposers in his time. Did it mean the world would end in 1914, No, that’s an ex-WJ’s excuse and those that oppose the Watchtower? The coined phrase " SETTING UP OF THE KINGDOM" means what? The time stamp, meant, preparation for Christ to take his rightful place in Heaven and enthroned at the appropriate time. But if you are one of those that only believe in one 1260, then it won't make a difference, and there's no reason to debate it here or in a closed forum.
  9. BillyTheKid46

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    I believe that was my point. What makes you different from others that you are here while others are gone.
  10. BillyTheKid46

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    I believe you are the one that pointed to 1874 as an absolute instead of a transition or inspection as it were. The other, you must admit it’s a normal emoji used by everyone. That’s better than downvotes I would think. I really didn’t experience AllenSmith34 perhaps as well as you, but given the atmosphere here, I can’t understand why this person was removed. That’s my point in this. Now being insightful. I could look at this person’s previous post, but it seems there are none to be found. Nevertheless, by you personally posting my comments with emoji’s, doesn’t that constitute poking fun at my expense? So, what the difference with your displayed argument? With that, Why single me out? Is there a purpose to this madness?
  11. BillyTheKid46

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    Your mistaken Butler, I enjoy your comments, aside from the child abuse which is a serious matter, your understanding of scripture is an enjoyable experience and humorous. But, if you are allowed to insult, be aggressive, why not others, that's my outtake.
  12. Then you have plenty of work ahead of you. Not that it’s going to matter, but if you really were a faithful witness, the generation referred in the Zion Watchtower talked about before and after 1914 with the earthly saints. Some critics back then thought Russell was only looking to fulfill a literal amount of 144,000 then quit looking. A question arose as to what would happen to the faithful after the 144,000 saints were acquired. It’s not that difficult to understand. But as you stated” Perhaps, but it's not obvious yet to me.” This is cynicism that doesn’t prove anything by personal opinion. This is why there is a difference between Jesus presences in 1874 to that of enthronement, taking his rightful seat in 1914. No one before 1914 would literally see judgment day. That doesn’t mean they wouldn't be included as the other sheep with an earthly hope after 1914. The teaching back then as a backdrop was and still is, once you die, you go to heaven. Where is your adjustment on that?
  13. BillyTheKid46

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    of you! 😂 they remove someone without it being the same across the board. It seems the fear is found elsewhere.
  14. Obviously, there is something you haven’t considered. So, I would expect an active JW to understand it and not minimize it and dismiss it with personal opinion. Perhaps there are older JW’s that have understood what 1914 represents and has always represented. That’s why it’s necessary to demonstrate the difference between early Zion Watchtower works with what the Watchtower is today. Totally different understanding with the same goal of 1914. 😉 Now I understand TrueTom about mischief comment.
  15. BillyTheKid46

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    I wonder. I believe they eliminate AllenSmith34. Why not this one? or does this mean anyone can apply for work, lol!
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