Despite my and True Tom Harley's pointing out to Arauna that her claim that Richard Dawkins believes in aliens is complete nonsense, she continues to make it. She relies on dishonest, quote-mined Creationist summaries, but never gives links to the original conversation between Richard Dawkins and Ben Stein in the 2008 movie "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed". In this post I give several links and a transcript of the relevant part of the conversation.
Anyone with at least half a brain will see how dishonest the Creationist summaries -- and Arauna -- are.
Some months after the release of "Expelled" various Creationists began quoting-mining Dawkins' comments to the effect that he believes that aliens "seeded" life on the earth. He did no such thing, as the transcript below makes clear and that Dawkins has made clear in comments condemning the quote-mining.
The transcript is from a talk that Dawkins gave titled "Richard Dawkins on The Art of Quote Mining -- Part 3: What Dawkins ACTUALLY said in that Ben Stein Movie":
. After displaying the transcript to his audience Dawkins made some explanatory comments, some of which I include here.
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Stein: Well then who did create the heavens and the Earth?
Dawkins: Why do you use the word 'Who'? You see, you immediately beg the question by using the word 'Who'.
Stein: Well then how did it get created?
Dawkins: Well, by a very slow process.
Stein: Well how did it start?
Dawkins: Nobody knows how it got started. We know the kind of event that it must have been. We know the sort of event that must have happened for the origin of life.
Stein: And what was that?
Dawkins: It was the origin of the first self-replicating molecule.
Stein: Right, and how did that happen?
Dawkins: I've told you, we don't know.
Stein: So you have no idea how it started?
Dawkins: No. Nor has anybody.
Stein: Nor has anyone else.
I have stated that Ben Stein tricked Dawkins into saying things that Stein and his cronies could later twist beyond recognition. Notice that Stein's first question seems innocent enough:
Stein: What do you think is the possibility that there's an intelligent design might turn out to be the answer to some issues in genetics or Darwinian evolution?
Dawkins (LATER EXPLANATORY COMMENT): . . . When he asked me that question, something like, "Could you ever imagine any kind of intelligent design?" I bent over backwards to try to give intelligent design its best shot. Its best shot for me was, something like design by an alien intelligence, something like what Frances Crick and Leslie Orgell had proposed as Directed Panspermia. I don't believe in that, I didn't believe in that, I never said I did believe in that, but I was trying to bend over backwards to give intelligent design its best shot. I was actually being even more generous than that, because knowing at the time nothing about Ben Stein, and just trying to give my honest opinion, I recalled that Dembski, the leading theorist of intelligent design, at a time when he was trying to distance himself from creationism (they are, of course, all straight down the line Christian creationists), but nevertheless, it was at a time when for political reasons in American educational politics Dembski was anxious to distance intelligent design from Creationism. And he tried to help that distancing along by protesting that the Intelligent Designer doesn't have to be God, it could be an alien from outer space. Dembski said that! I actually remembered that when Ben Stein asked me that question, and I thought I was actually offering Dembski an olive branch, by acknowledging his admittedly disingenuous suggestion that the Intelligent Designer might not be God, but might be aliens from outer space.
Dawkins: Well, it could come about in the following way:
Dawkins: It could be that at some earlier time somewhere in the universe a civilization evolved by probably some kind of Darwinian means to a very, very high level of technology, and designed a form of life that they seeded onto perhaps this planet.
Dawkins: Now that is a possibility and an intriguing possibility. And I suppose it's possible that you might find evidence for that if you look at the details of biochemistry and molecular biology you might find a signature of some sort of designer.
Stein (VOICEOVER): Wait a second! Richard DAWKINS thought Intelligent Design might be a legitimate pursuit?!
Dawkins: And that designer could well be a higher intelligence from elsewhere in the Universe. But that hight intelligence would itself have had to have come about by some explicable -- or ultimately explicable process.
Dawkins: It couldn't have just jumped into existence spontaneously, that's the point.
Stein (VOICEOVER): So Professor Dawkins was not against Intelligent Design, just certain types of designers, such as God.
Stein: So the Hebrew god, the god of the Old Testament, he doesn't exist in your view?
Dawkins: Certainly, that would be a very unpleasant prospect.
Stein: And the holy trinity of the New Testament?
Dawkins: Nothing like that.
Stein: Do you believe in any of the Hindu gods? Like Vishnu...
Dawkins: How can you ask such a question? How could I? Why would I, given that I don't believe in any others?
Stein: You don't believe in the Muslim god?
Dawkins: No. Why do you even need to ask?
Stein: Well, I just wanted to be sure. So you don't believe in any god, anywhere?
Dawkins: Any god, anywhere would be completely incompatible with anything that I've said.
Stein: I just wanted to make sure: You don't believe in ANY god anywhere.
Stein: What if after you died you ran into God, he said "What've you been doing, Richard?! I mean, what've you been doing? I've been trying to be nice to you, I gave you a mult-million dollar paycheck over and over again with your book and look what you did!"
Dawkins: Bertrand Russell had that point put to him and he said something like "Sir, why did you take such pains to hide yourself?"
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Clearly, anyone with a shred of honesty and at least half a brain must accept that Arauna's Creationist-inspired summaries of the Dawkins-Stein conversation are flat-out lies.
A more complete link:
The "Expelled" movie:
Dawkins segment starts 1:26:55.