George88

I did, but you are too arrogant to accept when you're wrong. I guess that's why you're still in the legal system for being obtuse. Now figure out how to refute the article passage I posted about a bomb being placed in a kingdom hall entrance while claiming if there is no entrance an apostate could not place one which is just your ignorant spin just to hide your lying posts. Since you're not an intellectual, someone with harmful intentions could easily figure out how to throw a pipe bomb through a window of a kingdom hall if the entrance was not a first choice, and a window was accessible at a distance, if we were to take Matthew's risky suggestion of including windows in kingdom halls.
There are Kingdom halls with windows, and unfortunately, there have been incidents in which someone has thrown a pipe bomb through them. That was the incident you people were so captivated on that happened in Denver.
Keep deflecting and persuading your followers in the closed club that you are winning. 

Remember to take your medication, old man. It is important to embrace your humanity and avoid degrading yourself as a dog, even though it's a better fit. I chose not to engage in the frivolous discussion, but I cannot ignore your misguided perception, even when expressed through your puppet, Matthew. Your tendency to twist situations to your own benefit is both predictable and misleading, leading only the most irrational individuals to believe you. Keep up the good work.
You, as a proven liar, have made the nonsensical argument about eliminating an entrance that apostates couldn't leave a bomb on, which has resulted in incidents in Italy and other parts of the world to actually be factual, that you can't refute being wrong but want to deflect to other ignorance to hide the fact you are wrong.

Believe me, she doesn’t listen to me any more than to you.

Will their ban really stop any of us from exposing this apostate website? They may ban a billion of us, but we will persist while they falsely identify themselves as Jehovah's Witnesses and tarnish the divine name with their apostasy.
I have personally witnessed the disgraceful act of someone insulting a deceased mother, so it would not come as a surprise if James were to repeat such behavior. It is disheartening to see that this is the type of conduct that some members of the closed club condone.
Indeed, you are correct. There are individuals among us who possess higher degrees and understand how to properly apply them, especially when it involves admonishing our brothers for their wrongful conduct as guided by scripture. However, there are those who unjustly criticize individuals like myself, demonstrating a lack of spiritual maturity due to their misguided intentions and incorrect interpretation of scripture.

This thread also provides a platform for James to express his thoughts, feelings, rants and immaturity. It's important for him to have an outlet for his emotions in order to prevent any potential negative consequences or more of it.

So, why are people like you, James/Pudgy, even allowed in the closed club? Is that really the best excuse you have for your rants and madness? 
The thread's main purpose is to address uninformed apostates, yet you individuals within the closed club decided to include yourselves in that ignorance. Hence, it should be advisable to remain in your hypocritical club.

First, the irony lies in his claim that he can design an oil refinery or a municipal water system in his mind while he can't seem to keep his head out of the toilet and mind out of the gutter. 😂
Anyone, regardless of intellect, can create something if they apply themselves. However, such endeavors may not contribute to one's spiritual growth. 
Here we have a situation where a person openly admits to being rude and obnoxious, and others seem to accept it. But when someone stands up for themselves against these individuals, they are not accepted. It is concerning that this kind of behavior is not only tolerated but even celebrated.
Be cautious, as it seems that a ban is imminent when individuals brandish their guns. Disrespectful women who mistakenly believe they are immune to criticism simply because of their gender. They adopt the same mindset as a select group of authoritarian figures who consider themselves privileged to voice complaints and criticize the Watchtower, much like apostates. However, these same people are outraged when others dare to critique them for their deceptions, misguided perspectives and interpretations. How sad the mind works on certain people.

You are clearly an immature person, Anna, seeking to ban others like you have done in the past. Your behavior reflects poorly on you. So, crawl back in your hole the closed club with the right of the fake witnesses.
Why are you condoning their insults and profanity? Have you even heard of a nob? Educate yourself! And to think, Tom, Xero, Pudgy, Pete started the fights and yet you have the audacity to call me immature. There's a limit to delusion, you know.

You are clearly an immature person, Anna, seeking to ban others like you have done in the past. Your behavior reflects poorly on you. So, crawl back in your hole the closed club with the right of the fake witnesses.
Why are you condoning their insults and profanity? Have you even heard of a nob? Educate yourself! And to think, Tom, Xero, Pudgy, Pete started the fights and yet you have the audacity to call me immature. There's a limit to delusion, you know.

You are clearly an immature person, Anna, seeking to ban others like you have done in the past. Your behavior reflects poorly on you. So, crawl back in your hole the closed club with the right of the fake witnesses.
Why are you condoning their insults and profanity? Have you even heard of a nob? Educate yourself! And to think, Tom, Xero, Pudgy, Pete started the fights and yet you have the audacity to call me immature. There's a limit to delusion, you know.

Your opinion means absolutely nothing, especially coming from someone like you. I suggest focusing on obtaining a reputable education. It might help you realize that you're not as unintelligent as you seem to believe. Though perhaps you can persuade yourself, in my eyes, you will always be insignificant.
As I have more important matters to attend to than engaging with an immature troublemaker turned deviant, I will leave you to your own devices. Let me know when you want to revert to what 77 years now behaving like a 2-year-old, how pathetic.

Since I'm referring to someone who behaves childishly, let me point out that Jesus exhibited far more maturity as a carpenter than any of you combined. It was James who made the comparison about how people might interpret what I'm saying, and even someone considered less than average in your eyes can attain spiritual maturity, although your behavior proves the opposite. Therefore, the childish comment about being roasted is less relevant than immature remarks.
Also, what was Tom's pathetic remark about scholars as a book hack "reflecting poor scholarship and intellectual deterioration"
Pudgy: "Georgie, You assume that everybody but you is stupid, and are ignorant fools, so naturally you would not see it."
There is yet another ignorant individual in this closed club who dares to insult scholars, despite lacking the necessary education. And yet, they shamelessly boast about it. I find it baffling that you foolish people continue to engage in a pointless argument with me, instead of condemning other people and yourself. It is clear to me that you are all immature and lacking in wisdom. Tom attempted to reprimand me for not behaving like a witness, but the truth is that it is you who are failing to act as witnesses by not recognizing your own role in perpetuating conflict and discord.
What is the experience like of being a Pharisee? By assuming this role, you have essentially placed yourself in opposition to being a Nazirite.
That suggests that you may have some mental concerns, and it would be advisable to seek professional evaluation.
I can only deduce from your arguments that you simply prove your own ignorance. It is rather ironic how you unknowingly contradict yourself.
Even though Tom has made the outrageous claim that I am leading a double life, it is actually him who is living a double life as an apostate. If Tom truly believes that the Elders are aware of what is happening here, as he implies, then he should have the courage to inform them that he is defending a disfellowshipped pervert here in the name of Christian love. Let's see how they respond to that. It is this lack of critical thinking that truly characterizes people like Tom as ignorant individuals.
Did Jesus have contact with Judas after his resurrection? Before making misguided comparisons about Jesus as a carpenter, one should first seek to understand scripture. Doing so will prevent you from looking more foolish. So, let's not start being blasphemers as well, witnesses, what a joke.
Remember, you are proud of defending a disfellowshipped pervert. Would the Watchtower commend you or condemn you for showing your Christian love to such a deviant, especially an unrepentant one, when scripture won't?
You lack secular and scriptural expertise. Why should people find your nonsense and apostasy as Jehovah's Witnesses credible when you are nothing more than pathetic individuals pretending to be one? Learn to tell the differences in arguments between secular education and biblical education that you people seem to confuse with your fights. Grow Up!
Xero, it would be like you blaming me because you can't figure out Nineveh 612 BC, when the clueless one is you.

Since I'm referring to someone who behaves childishly, let me point out that Jesus exhibited far more maturity as a carpenter than any of you combined. It was James who made the comparison about how people might interpret what I'm saying, and even someone considered less than average in your eyes can attain spiritual maturity, although your behavior proves the opposite. Therefore, the childish comment about being roasted is less relevant than immature remarks.
Also, what was Tom's pathetic remark about scholars as a book hack "reflecting poor scholarship and intellectual deterioration"
Pudgy: "Georgie, You assume that everybody but you is stupid, and are ignorant fools, so naturally you would not see it."
There is yet another ignorant individual in this closed club who dares to insult scholars, despite lacking the necessary education. And yet, they shamelessly boast about it. I find it baffling that you foolish people continue to engage in a pointless argument with me, instead of condemning other people and yourself. It is clear to me that you are all immature and lacking in wisdom. Tom attempted to reprimand me for not behaving like a witness, but the truth is that it is you who are failing to act as witnesses by not recognizing your own role in perpetuating conflict and discord.
What is the experience like of being a Pharisee? By assuming this role, you have essentially placed yourself in opposition to being a Nazirite.
That suggests that you may have some mental concerns, and it would be advisable to seek professional evaluation.
I can only deduce from your arguments that you simply prove your own ignorance. It is rather ironic how you unknowingly contradict yourself.
Even though Tom has made the outrageous claim that I am leading a double life, it is actually him who is living a double life as an apostate. If Tom truly believes that the Elders are aware of what is happening here, as he implies, then he should have the courage to inform them that he is defending a disfellowshipped pervert here in the name of Christian love. Let's see how they respond to that. It is this lack of critical thinking that truly characterizes people like Tom as ignorant individuals.
Did Jesus have contact with Judas after his resurrection? Before making misguided comparisons about Jesus as a carpenter, one should first seek to understand scripture. Doing so will prevent you from looking more foolish. So, let's not start being blasphemers as well, witnesses, what a joke.
Remember, you are proud of defending a disfellowshipped pervert. Would the Watchtower commend you or condemn you for showing your Christian love to such a deviant, especially an unrepentant one, when scripture won't?
You lack secular and scriptural expertise. Why should people find your nonsense and apostasy as Jehovah's Witnesses credible when you are nothing more than pathetic individuals pretending to be one? Learn to tell the differences in arguments between secular education and biblical education that you people seem to confuse with your fights. Grow Up!
Xero, it would be like you blaming me because you can't figure out Nineveh 612 BC, when the clueless one is you.

Boom! Roasted!

I wouldn't expect other than a stupid response from you simple plumber, get some real education.

This is the reason why I declined your challenge to prove your apostasy, as it only serves to highlight your ignorance about scripture.
To you and most people here, "apostasy" is believed to be simply, a renunciation of one's faith. This view is quite absurd and lacks a full understanding of scripture. It's unfortunate that there are other denominations within the Christian faith that approach this matter with far more intellectual depth.
Apostasy can also encompass the distortion of truth and scripture, including the act of self-interpretation. This is something that is all too frequently practiced here. I encourage you to delve into a book and examine the ancient language to understand why individuals like Aries made their choices.
https://www.gotquestions.org/apostasy.html
If you had understood, you would have applied 1 Timothy 4, 2 Thessalonians 2, and several other texts to address that ignorance instead of questioning how one can prove apostasy. This is a case of deviating from the truth due to personal conviction, just in case you get a headache from critical thinking.


Now, consider this: What is the significance of the enthronement of Christ in heaven in 1914 in relation to the continuation of Christ's memorial until after his kingdom is established on earth as it is in heaven?
This ignorant mindset is a clear demonstration of self-delusion (interpretation) and, consequently, heretical thinking. Do I have any concern if you acknowledge the illustration of your foolishness? Absolutely none. Is this the sole example, James/Pudgy? Not in the slightest.

That's precisely why it's futile to try to reason with a stupid and uncivilized mindset. Your actions only confirm my argument. So, by answering your own question, you have discovered how you perceive yourself.

This topic can also be applied to certain individuals who have lost faith in God.
Too easy. I don't know if you're trying to convince the public or yourself about your bad behavior and associations. If it's yourself you're trying to persuade, you're doing a commendable job. However, I must say that some of us can see right through your deception. You're not alone in that regard.
When it comes to proving your apostate behavior, I don't need to provide evidence as you are doing an excellent job of proving it yourself. Whether you accept it or not, is inconsequential. Therefore, your defense of each other does not matter. We simply need to see this group of people for who they are and what they represent.
The same can be said about your other viewpoints, such as education. However, the relentless pursuit of deflection and shifting the argument towards irrelevant matters, as well as employing deceitful tactics, proves ineffective.
Let me ask you this: How can someone without proper education and lacking skills in a specific field produce a credible and insightful result that presents an accurate depiction of reality?
If you rely solely on guesswork, the result will be nothing more than a guess. Consider the value of thorough research. What use is extensive research if your focus is solely on proving your own point, causing you to overlook a myriad of other possibilities?
Engaging in thorough and comprehensive research is crucial to avoid the pitfalls of subpar investigation, much like the unfortunate missteps taken by COJ. Merely expressing dissatisfaction when results fail to meet expectations is not the path to true learning. Instead, true growth and knowledge acquisition are fostered by delving into a wide array of sources and considering multiple perspectives - an approach akin to that is embraced by the Watchtower.
When you receive an alternative view, you categorically reject it as if you hold the ultimate authority. However, the truth is that you possess no expertise in the area you are presenting arguments on. You have no credentials to back up your claims.
Hence, personal interpretations or opinions serve as feeble justifications for claiming knowledge. Merely having work experience or a degree in one particular field does not entitle one to expertise in all other fields.
I am inclined to agree with Xero that your group should undergo a psychological assessment, as it seems that rather than thinking critically, you are being swayed by a mutual reinforcement of the same ideology with each other.
In my opinion, this way of thinking is flawed as it rejects the concept of independence. If one of you is mistaken based on this mindset, then all of you are equally mistaken since the perception exists. You are reinforcing each other's questionable conclusions, while your conscience complacently allows it.
Explain how a plumber/engineer should be taken seriously despite your current status. What part of your public record is a lie, and how can you convince the public you have been reinstated as a witness given your sad attitude here? What was your mindset in 2020 that makes you expect people to embrace your distorted truths now, when they were dismissed before? In your case, there are numerous aspects that now seem utterly irrelevant and unworthy of discussion.
Once again, I must direct your attention to Xero's comment, as it accurately reflects the image you portray to the public. It appears that Jehovah's Witnesses are perceived as individuals with unstable mental states or as members of a deranged cult, given the actions and behavior displayed by your community. This raises concerns regarding the value of your education and the message you convey. How can such negative perceptions be beneficial in any language?
Ultimately, it's you who is leading yourself astray. You should not be confronting me, but rather confronting yourself. Embracing cognitive truth requires a rational mind.

James/Pudgy has been disfellowshipped, I misspoke about that. However, he is still a friend to the closed club despite this circumstance. The welcome mat is out. Why shouldn't they, since they allow apostates and opposers on this site? Thus, there is truly no difference when it comes to association.
I want to make it clear that I'm not implying that everyone here is a fake witness. I'm specifically talking about those outspoken individuals who constantly promote apostasy. They know who they are from the closed club and this open forum. Sometimes, a couple of more are added to that list. That's the kind of fellowship they really want. It appears that some individuals derive great joy from disparaging the Watchtower and indulging in gossip. I guess that's what they live for. 
 

This topic can also be applied to certain individuals who have lost faith in God.
Too easy. I don't know if you're trying to convince the public or yourself about your bad behavior and associations. If it's yourself you're trying to persuade, you're doing a commendable job. However, I must say that some of us can see right through your deception. You're not alone in that regard.
When it comes to proving your apostate behavior, I don't need to provide evidence as you are doing an excellent job of proving it yourself. Whether you accept it or not, is inconsequential. Therefore, your defense of each other does not matter. We simply need to see this group of people for who they are and what they represent.
The same can be said about your other viewpoints, such as education. However, the relentless pursuit of deflection and shifting the argument towards irrelevant matters, as well as employing deceitful tactics, proves ineffective.
Let me ask you this: How can someone without proper education and lacking skills in a specific field produce a credible and insightful result that presents an accurate depiction of reality?
If you rely solely on guesswork, the result will be nothing more than a guess. Consider the value of thorough research. What use is extensive research if your focus is solely on proving your own point, causing you to overlook a myriad of other possibilities?
Engaging in thorough and comprehensive research is crucial to avoid the pitfalls of subpar investigation, much like the unfortunate missteps taken by COJ. Merely expressing dissatisfaction when results fail to meet expectations is not the path to true learning. Instead, true growth and knowledge acquisition are fostered by delving into a wide array of sources and considering multiple perspectives - an approach akin to that is embraced by the Watchtower.
When you receive an alternative view, you categorically reject it as if you hold the ultimate authority. However, the truth is that you possess no expertise in the area you are presenting arguments on. You have no credentials to back up your claims.
Hence, personal interpretations or opinions serve as feeble justifications for claiming knowledge. Merely having work experience or a degree in one particular field does not entitle one to expertise in all other fields.
I am inclined to agree with Xero that your group should undergo a psychological assessment, as it seems that rather than thinking critically, you are being swayed by a mutual reinforcement of the same ideology with each other.
In my opinion, this way of thinking is flawed as it rejects the concept of independence. If one of you is mistaken based on this mindset, then all of you are equally mistaken since the perception exists. You are reinforcing each other's questionable conclusions, while your conscience complacently allows it.
Explain how a plumber/engineer should be taken seriously despite your current status. What part of your public record is a lie, and how can you convince the public you have been reinstated as a witness given your sad attitude here? What was your mindset in 2020 that makes you expect people to embrace your distorted truths now, when they were dismissed before? In your case, there are numerous aspects that now seem utterly irrelevant and unworthy of discussion.
Once again, I must direct your attention to Xero's comment, as it accurately reflects the image you portray to the public. It appears that Jehovah's Witnesses are perceived as individuals with unstable mental states or as members of a deranged cult, given the actions and behavior displayed by your community. This raises concerns regarding the value of your education and the message you convey. How can such negative perceptions be beneficial in any language?
Ultimately, it's you who is leading yourself astray. You should not be confronting me, but rather confronting yourself. Embracing cognitive truth requires a rational mind.

@xero I'll extend the same advice that I gave Pete/Pudgy, let me know when you want to start behaving like a real man rather than a little whinny girl.

That is absolutely correct, which is precisely why it is crucial for you to prioritize and assess your mental well-being. Doing so may help you recognize and address any signs of unconstructive behavior.

I’ve noticed that, too.
Nonetheless, we have his application on file and at the next meeting of the closed club top brass we expect to admit him, at least on a trial basis.

People who bloviate often exhibit certain psychological tendencies or motivations that drive their behavior. Here are some aspects of their psychology:
Need for Attention: Bloviation is often a way for individuals to seek attention and validation. They may feel a sense of importance or superiority when they dominate conversations or express their opinions forcefully.
Insecurity: Bloviation can also stem from feelings of insecurity. Individuals may feel the need to constantly assert themselves or demonstrate their knowledge in order to mask their own insecurities or feelings of inadequacy.
Narcissism: Bloviation can be a manifestation of narcissistic tendencies, where individuals have an inflated sense of self-importance and believe that their opinions are inherently superior to others'. They may disregard or belittle opposing viewpoints.
Desire for Control: Bloviation can be a way for individuals to exert control over a conversation or situation. By dominating the dialogue, they can influence the direction of the discussion and maintain a sense of power.
Lack of Self-awareness: Some individuals who bloviate may lack self-awareness regarding the impact of their behavior on others. They may not realize that their excessive verbosity or grandiose speech can be off-putting or alienating to those around them.
Difficulty Listening: Bloviation often coincides with a lack of active listening skills. Individuals may be more focused on expressing their own thoughts and opinions than on genuinely engaging with others or considering alternative viewpoints.
Validation Seeking: Bloviation can be a way for individuals to seek validation and approval from others. They may believe that by impressing others with their knowledge or rhetoric, they will gain admiration and respect.
Intellectual Insecurity: In some cases, bloviation may stem from a fear of being perceived as intellectually inferior. Individuals may overcompensate by attempting to demonstrate their intelligence or expertise in a particular subject.
Habitual Behavior: For some individuals, bloviating may simply be a habitual behavior that they have developed over time. They may not even be consciously aware of their tendency to dominate conversations or monopolize attention.
Overall, the psychology of bloviating individuals is complex and multifaceted, often involving a combination of factors such as insecurity, narcissism, and a desire for validation and control

I do not go door to door on Christmas to entice children outside, unlike some of you. This reflects more on your behavior as disfellowshipped and villains.
I believe it is important to mention that insults have no effect on me, as they only inflict pain on individuals who are whinny little girls like yourselves. So, you let me know when you want to grow up and start acting like real men, not obtuse boys, because at this point, I must say, you are truly an embarrassment to the entire human race.
When it comes to being invited to brotherly gatherings, it seems like I have to turn down an invitation every week due to my busy schedule. But what about you? What will be your justification for being asked to join an apostate club? It's high time for you to reflect and not let your age show so clearly, Pete/Pudgy. Unlike me, who is not bound by any laws or restrictions, I am free to come and go as I please, without being confined to any sort of house arrest.