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  1. "I see you're a fan of scotch, do you know anything about Irish whiskey?", says the man videotaping Mr. Morris. Why would he say that if he hadn't seen what was in his cart, since Mr. Morris wasn't holding a bottle in his hand? And if that wasn't his cart, where was it, in the wine aisle? In his email sent to Lloyd, he described how he removed the bottles from the boxes at the checkout. "My impression was that he had done this many times before. He removed the bottles from their boxes before going to the register, a security protocol at this store. Also, he had them throw away the individual boxes, which to me shows he wasn't purchasing them as gifts".
  2. The wine in Jesus’ day was mostly “peasant wine”, harvest wine. It was barely fermented and had to be cut with water to make it palatable because of the lack of filtering. Wine today is not the same wine as thousands of years ago. The fermentation process has come a long way since then. I wonder what the reaction would be if a JW happened to walk into a liquor store for a bottle of whatever…and found his “neighbor” from the kingdom hall buying up over $900.00 worth of whisky and other alcohol, on any day of the week. My, how the rumors would fly. They fly if a man offers an unmarried woman a ride to the kingdom hall. But something like this, would most likely catch the attention of the elders who would be moved to make a “shepherding call”. But in this case, a GB member, who had his opinion in the creation of the opening video below, is given all sorts of excuses for his actions. I can’t believe JWs do not see the hypocrisy. JWs don't WANT to see it.
  3. Well, Mr. Morris has all of his personal needs met, plus available “ice cream money” to use as he pleases. The general message by the GB to JWs world-wide is to give, give, give to the organization; and many do, out of their personal needs. Many gauge their livelihood around what they can give to the organization, with nothing to spare. jv chap. 21 pp. 340-351 - Those who are accepted for special full-time service at the world headquarters of Jehovah’s Witnesses all subscribe to a vow of poverty, as have all the members of the Governing Body and all the other members of the Bethel family there. This does not mean that they live a drab life, without any comforts. But it does mean that they share, without partiality, the modest provisions of food, shelter, and expense reimbursement that are made for all in such service. Nothing modest, drab or uncomfortable in $900.00 worth of liquor. Perhaps he is sharing with Bethelites? As if that is a good idea.
  4. Here's another one, @TrueTomHarley He snuck out on Sunday morning to go to a liquor store (bypassing many others stores close by) out of state to spend almost $1000 bucks on whiskey. He should have been doing 'pastoral' duties that Sunday morning in the Headquarters where he lives and runs the place. Instead he dressed up in disguise; a trenchcoat, tennis shoes, and a low billed hat to go out of state at a special 'spiritual' time to get his liquor instead of dressing up in a suit with other brothers and going like normal, or having those under him purchase it. Many critical thinkers here believe that it belies a dishonesty. He could have picked a better time and place, and manner of dress to get his 12 bottles of high end scotch, at the least. Also, the manner of his purchase suggests a bigger problem, not only with him, but within the compound itself, if this is allowed, while they preach the opposite to the masses.
  5. The Society admits that the Beast of Revelation 13:1 is an “organization”, which according to Rev 13:12 is directed by a false prophet. To me, these descriptions slide perfectly in place with the WT and the GB leaders, since the anointed are involved. Already we see God’s “tabernacle”/Temple blasphemed and the saints overcome by “Jehovah’s spiritual temple”. Rev 13:5-7 What will cement the deal, is when we see the organization disfellowship the GB. Rev 17:16,17
  6. A FORMER JEHOVAH'S WITNESS IS USING STOLEN DOCUMENTS TO EXPOSE ALLEGATIONS THAT THE RELIGION HAS KEPT HIDDEN FOR DECADES. In an organization, what sort of prevailing spirit would enable and encourage its people to hide its dirty business? The spirit of God, who always exposed the sins of His people? What spiritual atmosphere promotes child abuse by ignoring a child’s call for help and justice, from their own parents? What sort of spirit promotes parents to threaten their children using disgusting ‘weaponry’ against them, and at the same time, teaching them of “Jehovah’s paradise” as a promise if they were good? What spirit resides in the heart of an elder who would ask a child suffering from parental abuse, “If her mother did end up killing her, could that prevent Jehovah from resurrecting her at Armageddon? “Of course, I said no,” Kimmy said, rolling her eyes. “They told me, ‘Go home and obey your mother.’” How can the Watchtower call itself “Jehovah’s theocratic organization”, or “Jehovah’s spiritual temple” when at the inner core of its “whitewashed tomb”, “the bones of the dead and everything unclean” exists? Matt 23:27 Child abuse is everywhere, but it is a rampant evil sickness in an organization that proudly claims to belong to “Jehovah”, to be a protection in times of distress, and an ark of salvation. What hypocrisy. Has it ever occurred to a JW that God sees the sins of His people? And when God sees His people sinning, He refuses to aid them in times of crisis? Remind yourself again of what is happening in Russia. Since the organization obviously hides its sins; yet, blatantly practices idolatry by ignoring the true temple of God in the anointed ones, (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22; 2 Thess 2:3,4) God has no interest in coming to Watchtower’s aid in times of distress. Tell me why He would. Judges 2:6-23; Rom 1:18-25 We have a deliverer, and it isn’t the GB or the organization who has refused to offer any aid to thousands who have suffered from abusive individuals residing in the “spiritual paradise”. Our deliverer is the Father and Jesus Christ. Judges 3:7-9; Rev 2:2-6,19-22; 3:17-21 From The Atlantic: https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2019/03/the-secret-jehovahs-witness-database-of-child-molesters/584311/
  7. “Theocratic organization” Defining “theocratic” – Simple definition (Oxford Dictionary): relating to or denoting a system of government in which priests rule in the name of God or a god. “Jehovah’s spiritual temple” - “Jehovah’s theocratic organization”: Head: the Governing Body Priesthood: the elder body Conclusion: “Jehovah’s spiritual temple” is another god – an IDOL God’s “organization”, outlined by scripture: Rev 21:22-24; (2 Cor 11:2; Rev 14:4; 21:2) Head: Jesus Christ – Eph 2:20-22; 1 Cor 12:12,27; Heb 9:8,9,11,12,15,23,24 (correction made) Priesthood: the anointed Body – 1 Pet 2:5,9; Acts 7:48; 1 Cor 3:16,17; 6:19; Acts 17:24; Col 2:17; Rev 5:9,10 Conclusion: an “organization” belonging to God. “Then I looked, and there was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him were 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads.” Rev 14:1 What stands, sits, rules over God’s Temple, God’s chosen “organization”? Dan 9:27; 11:31; 8:25; Matt 24:15,16; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2 It is a false priesthood, a counterfeit “organization” that calls itself “Jehovah’s spiritual temple” It is the Man of Lawlessness, "standing where it doesn't belong". Mark 13:14 "And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue for forty-two months. 6 Then he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, (Rev 15:5; 21:2,3) and those who dwell in heaven. (Heb 12:22) 7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation. Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666. Rev 13:5-7,18 So they asked Him, saying, “Teacher, but when will these things be? And what sign will there be when these things are about to take place?” And He said: “Take heed that you not be deceived. For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am He,’ and, ‘The time has drawn near.’ Therefore do not go after them. Luke 22:7,9
  8. I caught my breath when reading this one. I know I’ve mentioned this before, but it bears repeating to any JW that would pay attention to scriptures. The anointed are compared to stars. These stars – “angels” do not symbolize the elder body, as the WT teaches regarding Rev 1:20; 2:1; Rev 12:1; (Gal 4:24,26) Angels are messengers, the anointed are messengers. Mal 2:7; John 1:51; Matt 22:29,30; 1 Pet 3:22; Heb 12:22,23; Luke 10:20, etc. “Do everything without grumbling or arguing, 15 so that you may become blameless and pure, (Rev 14:3-5; 2 Cor 11:2; Heb 7:26); “children of God without fault in a warped and crooked generation.” Then you will shine among them like stars in the sky (Matt 5:16) as you hold firmly to the word of life. And then I will be able to boast on the day of Christ that I did not run or labor in vain. Phil 2:14-16 These anointed “stars” can fall from their stable “heavenly” position. “Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position.” 2 Pet 3:17 During the last days, there are anointed ones “carried away by the error of the lawless”, who fall from God's grace. “See to it that no one falls short of the grace of God and that no bitter root grows up to cause trouble and defile many.” Heb 12:15 In order to defile many, one must lead many, into iniquity. Revelation 12:4 speaks of anointed who fall by swallowing deceptive teachings/water from a false prophet. Wormwood is a bitter root.* · *bitter gall; extreme wickedness, a bitter root, and so producing a bitter fruit. Matt 7:15-20 Wormwood represents fallen anointed leaders who produce spiritual bad “fruit” that defiles many. Rev 13:11,14 When one falls from God’s grace by breaking the covenant with God, he or she commits spiritual adultery. “The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water— 11 the name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter.” Rev 8:10,11 Truly, Jehovah’s people do not hunger spiritually or thirst for truth. Neither does the scorching heat of God’s fiery judgments fall upon us. We know how good the spiritual provisions taste and how nourishing they are. Km 5/88 p. 5,6 There is nothing nourishing about falsehoods, no matter how they are dressed with ‘side dishes’; but as the quote says, lies poison slowly, cautiously, and I will add, deliberately. The cup that Wormwood offers, is brimming with lies. Micah 2:11; Eph 5:18; Rev 17:1-4 Accepting this Harlot’s cup induces numbness; and the distinction of what is a lie and what is truth is impossible to determine, unless one sincerely turns to God, and asks for His help. Jonah 2:1-9; Lam 3:19-25
  9. Oh, but I do walk in harmony with Christ. This does not require walking in harmony with the Watchtower. SHOULD THERE BE UNITY AT ALL COST? A “worldly preacher” from decades ago said, “If good men were all for union and bad men for division, or vice versa, that would simplify things for us. Or if it could be shown that God always unites and the devil always divides it would be easy to find our way around in this confused and confusing world. But that is not how things are. Light and darkness are incompatible; to try to have both in the same place at once is to try the impossible and end by having neither one nor the other, but dimness rather, and obscurity. Truth is slain to provide a feast to celebrate the marriage of heaven and hell, and all to support a concept of unity which has no basis in the Word of God. When confused sheep start over a cliff the individual sheep can save himself only by separating from the flock. Perfect unity at such a time can only mean total destruction for all. Power lies in the union of things similar and the division of things dissimilar. Maybe what we need today is not more union but some wise and courageous division.” Watchtower’s historic false teachings are darkness, never were they light. Only a fool would say they were from Jesus Christ, who only imparts truth. John 14:6 Only a fool would say they trust a leadership that runs the same institution that calls darkness “Beliefs Clarified”. Jesus Christ: “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn “‘a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law— 36 a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’[a] 37 “Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38 Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39 Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it. Matt 10:34-39 This divisive sword between light and darkness was not put back in its sheath when Jesus was resurrected. The Lord says to my lord: “Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet.” 2 The Lord will extend your mighty scepter from Zion, saying, “Rule in the midst of your enemies!” Ps 110:1,2 Those who desire to follow the light of Christ; and who reject all darkness, all teachings that have proved to be rotten, are the ones who may have lost their loved ones, for the sake of Christ, for the sake of obtaining light. John 8:12; Matt 7:15:20; John 15:16; Rev 13:15 As long as they remain with Christ, they will never walk in darkness. WT’s leaders lead sheep on vast, “slippery” trails of darkness. It has been proven to be so. “For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open.” Luke 8:17 “You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons too; you cannot have a part in both the Lord’s table and the table of demons. 22 Are we trying to arouse the Lord’s jealousy? Are we stronger than he?” 1 Cor 10:21,22
  10. The anointed who realize there is no unity allowed under a counterfeit priesthood, are "thrown out of the synagogues", because they speak against such blasphemy. John 16:2 They leave captivity to an operation of error, and join Christ. I have found anointed who follow only one Master.
  11. Not all of them. Many are seeking out the true anointed ones/"Daughter Zion" Isa 62:1-12
  12. In reference to scriptures used by Billy the Kid: 1 Cor 1:10 – “no divisions among you”. Paul was teaching the new anointed members of Christ’s Body, who were “sanctified in Christ” and “called to be his holy people”, to be one under Christ. No divisions were to occur in the Body of Christ. Again, Watchtower’s take on the anointed ones today: "In addition, anointed Christians do not view themselves as being part of an elite club. They do not seek out others who claim to have the same calling, hoping to bond with them or endeavoring to form private groups for Bible study. (Gal. 1:15-17) Such efforts would cause divisions within the congregation and work against the holy spirit, which promotes peace and unity." Wt/16/1 pp. 22-27 Paul didn’t consider the anointed members bonding together as one body, an “elite club”. He taught it was absolutely necessary for them to bond as one Body. 1 Cor 12:21-26 Together, through successfully surviving all that Satan would throw at them, they would be the Bride of Christ; and together, they would know truth as long as they remained in Christ. Together, they would reign on the earth as "kings and priests". Rev 5:9,10 “As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him.” 1 John 2:27 Who has the authority to divide Christ’s Body? 2 Cor 11:1-4 Who has the authority to transgress the Word of God and demand the Temple priests to remain separate from each other? The elder body has been given this blasphemous authority, under the direction of the GB. Rev 13:4-6,11,12 There is no scriptural validation for this, unless one has built his own "temple". In that case, he can authorize whatever he wants. It will not be recognized by God, though, as worthy to receive His blessing. Rom 1:25; Matt 7:21-23 Eph 4:11-13 also applies to the anointed. 1 Cor 12:27-31; Eph 4:1-4 There should be no division within the anointed body. Since it is obvious that there IS a determined division by decree of the GB, and what is promoted is unification of all members instead, there is no distinction made between what is holy and what is common; who comprise the holy priesthood and who do not. There is no understanding of what God’s priesthood is assigned to do. Lev 10:8-11; Ezek 22:26; Mal 2:7; 1 Pet 2:5,9 And, they have submitted themselves to this falsehood; they have allowed those who rule over them to keep them divided. 1 Cor 12:25 Division causes desolation to what should be a united people, a special possession of God. 1 Pet 2:9 The Watchtower quotes from the October 2017 magazine that I gave early, state that “Jehovah’s spiritual temple” is the entire organization. Within that idolatrous “temple” there is to be no division among its members. Does God recognize it and bless it? ARE ALL JWS, NOW PRIESTS? ARE ALL JWS, CHRIST’S BRIDE? When the Man of Lawlessness is “set up” in God’s Temple, (2 Thess 2:4) it “exalts himself” above the Temple priesthood. He ‘opposes’ the Temple of God, by dissolving the defining element between the holy and common. 2 Thess 2:4 – “set up”: “sitteth” – “to set, appoint, to confer a kingdom on one, to fix one’s abode”, “to seat oneself” It has been accomplished by the elder body "representing the royal priesthood". JWs, the Temple of God in the anointed priesthood has been replaced by an idol – “Jehovah’s spiritual temple” called the Watchtower organization. It is the accomplishment of “false christs” and a destructive “Beast”/organization/elder body. Rev 13:1,11 "For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect." Matt 24:24 Matt 24:15 - When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand) “the holy” - most holy thing, a saint “place” – “place, any portion or space marked off, as it were from surrounding space, an inhabited place, as a city, village, district” Addressing the saints: 1 Cor 3:16,17 - Do you not know that you (the saints) are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells (an inhabited place) in you? The only “holy place” Jesus recognizes is the Temple of God built on his Body. If anyone can discern this, if anyone can visualize the desolation of God's Temple, they are to flee. Matt 24:16 Pearl Doxsey - "The Disgusting Thing", 4womaninthewilderness blogspot
  13. Believe me, what you propose could never happen. In order for me to be accepted back into the organization I would have to repent for my “apostate” ways….for rejecting 1914, for rejecting the rulership of an elder body and GB who expect full devotion to their teachings (falsehoods or not). For turning completely to the Father and Christ, realizing an organization is not needed to be guided by Holy Spirit I would have to basically lie to get back in; and, once reinstated, wouldn’t I be condoning the very falsehoods I was disfellowshipped for rejecting initially? Rev 2:2; 2 Cor 6:17; Rev 18:4 I do appreciate your sincerity, but I don’t think you realize how many anointed have been disfellowshipped, and how many have been bullied by the elder body for speaking up. To be “shining as illuminators” we are to speak truth. Ezek 13:17 Anyone who illuminates truth and exposes a lie in the organization is disfellowshipped. It’s much different when speaking here on a forum about Watchtower’s lies, then voicing your disapproval of doctrine or false rulership among the very ones you see many times a week. Before I was disfellowshipped, I shared my troubled concerns about a few topics with three very close friends. Immediately, and I mean within minutes after hearing me out, they cut me off. I never heard from them again. They did this because of their own fear of also being disfellowshipped, if they were to sympathize with my concerns, if they were to listen any further to what I had to say. Can you see? What you are saying is pie in the sky. How far do you believe truth, that deviates from the GB's teachings, from the mouth of someone like me or any anointed one, will get them? My initial comment is about the Man of Lawlessness. You mentioned the organization has “sprung so many anointed ones”. This isn’t by accident, but fulfills prophesy. Rev 13:5-7; 20:7-9 The Man of Lawlessness “tramples” the anointed Temple. 1 Cor 3:16,17 They, the priesthood, are kept quiet and not allowed to be “illuminators” of truth. 2 Thess 2:3,4,8,9; Matt 24:15 Do you believe it is approved by God to shun or disfellowship anyone who speaks aloud and exposes such lies? The organization isn’t God or Jesus, but a rather new development created by men who require loyalty to what they have built. Remember Russell said, "Beware of "organization." It is wholly un-necessary. The Bible will be the only rules you need. Do not seek to bind other consciences, and do not permit others to bind yours. Believe and obey so far as you can understand God's word today, and so continue to growing in grace and knowledge day by day." (Zion's Watch Tower, 1895, p. 216.) My conscience would not allow me to re-enter a faulty operation of error. Jesus did not expect his people to tolerate false teachings from the Pharisees. Matt 15:14 Should we do so today? Every false and failed teaching uttered by the GB shows them up for being blind teachers. If truth brings us salvation, why would we settle for anything less? John 14:6; 17:3,17 James 4:17 - “So it is sin to know the good and yet not do it.” To remain in the “same state in which you were called “(1 Cor 7:20) doesn’t apply to remaining where false teachings exist because that is not something God, Jesus or the apostles taught us to do. 1 Cor 10:21,22; Ps 26:4 If remaining in the same state is as you say, I could apply it to being a mother, a wife, a sister, a child of a mother and father, while also doing God's will as an anointed one. If you’ll notice verse 23 – “You were bought with a price; stop becoming slaves of men”. I was a slave to men, should I remain in that same state? The elders have authority over the anointed ones by the decree of men. It isn't Bible-based. Most certainly, no anointed one will be allow to “shine” the light of truth that comes from one’s own heart. You mentioned once, JWI, that you seemed to notice many of the anointed were not mentally sound, if I am right in what I remember. My first reaction was one of defensiveness; but I have thought about your statement, and I realize that preventing an anointed heart to speak out independently from the GB and elder body, causes emotional and spiritual breakdown. To be told that they are not to bond together or study the Bible together, or not to reach out to other anointed members of the Body, can subconsciously, without realizing it, cause spiritual pain. I was at that point, even if I thought all was well, I suffered mental heaviness and depression. Holy Spirit is living, and if an anointed heart succumbs to men’s wishes and resists its power, I believe mental unstableness and depression does result. Phil 2:12,13,16 (Acts 7:51; Isa 63:10) Just consider what comprises God’s Temple. Rev 11:19; 14:1-5 Every anointed priest who is sealed into it must be found blameless and pure, “with no lie found in their mouths.” That is an impossibility if they accept false teachings, past or present, and allow men to mold their thinking, instead of Jesus Christ. John 14:6 That is the organization’s mantra, and the criteria necessary to be one of its accepted members. The apostle Paul, a foundation stone of the Holy City of Truth (Zech 8:3; Eph 2:19-22): “Now, brothers and sisters, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. 2 By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain. 1 Cor 15:1,2
  14. Actually, I am the one to apologize. I should never have made reference to it. Well, every anointed one should be a shining light in a dark place. The only way that is accomplished is by speaking God’s Word, which is light. Ps 119:105 Jesus: “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.” John 8:12 An anointed follower of Jesus should radiate the same “light”. “You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden. Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven. Matt 5:14-16 Christ is the Word, he is light, and light is truth. Eph 5:8,9 Jesus also said, “My teaching is not my own. It comes from the one who sent me.” John 7:16 Jesus spoke the Word of God, continually. Although, much of it may have sounded new when he spoke, all of his teachings were based on God’s commandments. An anointed one should also speak the Word of God by obeying Christ’s teachings. Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them.” John 14:23 Should I interject Christ’s teachings by instigating doctrine not based on the Word and expect people to obey it? This is why backing up an anointed one’s teachings with scripture is so vital. Jesus spoke God’s Word. I am not Jesus, but it is imperative for me and all anointed ones to speak the Word of God as his ambassadors. What Jesus’ disciples heard is what we read today. Jesus expected them to obey his teachings. Every anointed one is measured by those standards of truth, not by the standards of men. I would never expect obedience to me, but would hope one would see that through the acceptance of Christ's teachings we become obedient to the Father and Jesus. The GB elaborates on scripture by adding to it. 1914, 1975, this generation, an organization as your “temple”, etc. They add their own rules. Who says that this should be done by any anointed one? The apostles and prophets who along with the chief cornerstone established the foundation of TRUTH to be built on by each anointed one. Everything the prophets taught, everything taught by the apostles encompasses the entire Bible. All of it, comes together at the opening of the “new scrolls” during the last days, in the understanding of Revelation; which really isn’t new, but its meaning is new, giving us awareness of how Armageddon plays out. Dan 12:4 What if I planned to lay a slab concrete foundation for a house I was preparing to build. Wouldn’t I be very careful how the slab was laid? A building contractor once told me, if the foundation is poorly done, the house will fail. The materials of concrete and rebar are the basics needed. What if, when ready to pour the slab, I decide to get cheap, and added more water than required for a good pour; and instead of spacing rebar at say, 12 inches, I choose 48 inches. Also, I decide not to make it at least four inches thick, but choose two inches instead. I have created my own faulty standards that lead to a cracked and ultimately failed foundation. What if I was pouring this slab for someone else’s house and their house in time began to suffer from a cheap foundation that I poured? The leaders of the Watchtower had the basics to lay a good “foundation” – the Bible, God and Christ; but what have they done? They’ve gotten cheap by changing the recipe of Truth, and have instilled their own doctrine. They teach the doctrine of men, with truth scattered here and there. Their foundation was shifting from the beginning (pyramids, those early books by both Russel and Rutherford, continually revised teachings).. and it still is shifting. In this case, not only was the word of Truth watered down, but too much sand was in the pour. Matt 7:21-27; Heb 12:15; Rev 8:11 So yes, I quote long passages because within them is spiritual truth that benefits us today. Authority. Truth has authority to bring us life, or because of its rejection, death. I am just a mother and grandmother who was anointed when young. I rejected it for a long time, only wanting to be a good JW, who thought about an earthly spiritual paradise to come. However, the organization’s hypocrisy pricked my spiritual integrity – and I resolved to find, and develop spiritual intelligence. With that, came the spiritual drive that is pretty hard to ignore, through the direction of Holy Spirit. Revelation’s “two witnesses” sound truth to their own people – Christ’s servants, who have allowed their own “house” to become cracked and unstable.
  15. All fantasy, which drives your world. I am so sorry because I thought you were beginning to see light. I actually reintroduced your name in prayer. You stood out among my generalized plea for all JWs to wake up. Besides the fact that you love thrusting a knife in my stomach and giving it a good twist, please, point out the irrelevant scriptures and why they are irrelevant. Was it my last post? Which Watchtower quote upset you? My comments were in harmony with the Insight Book’s statements.
  16. @Anna and all JWs, Today's "Daily Text": You will have to know that Jehovah of armies has sent me to you.—Zech. 6:15. How did Zechariah’s message affect the Jews in his day? Jehovah had guaranteed stability and protection for their work. His assurance that the temple would be built must have brought hope to their tired hearts. But how would just a few accomplish so much work? Zechariah’s next words remove any remaining fear or doubt. In addition to the support of faithful ones like Heldai, Tobijah, and Jedaiah, God tells of many others who would “come and take part in building the temple of Jehovah.” Confident of divine backing, the Jews quickly swing into action, resuming their building work despite the ban by the Persian king. Soon Jehovah removes the mountainlike obstacle of the official ban, and the temple is completed in 515 B.C.E. (Ezra 6:22; Zech. 4:6, 7) The words of Jehovah, however, describe things far greater for our day. w17.1029 ¶17 FROM THE ARTICLE THAT THE WATCHTOWER LINKS: Today, millions join in true worship, and they are moved from the heart to contribute their “valuable things,” which include their time, energy, and resources in support of Jehovah’s great spiritual temple. (Prov. 3:9) How can we be certain that Jehovah values our loyal support? Remember that Heldai, Tobijah, and Jedaiah brought the materials for the crown that Zechariah made. The crown then served “as a memorial,” or “reminder,” of their contribution toward true worship. (Zech. 6:14; ftn.) Likewise, the work and the love we show for Jehovah will never be forgotten. (Heb. 6:10) They will remain forever, cherished in Jehovah’s memory. 19. What effect should Zechariah’s visions have on us today? 19 All that has been accomplished for true worship in these last days is tangible evidence of Jehovah’s blessing and Christ’s leadership. We are part of a stable, secure, and everlasting organization. Jehovah’s purpose regarding pure worship “will occur.” Cherish your place among Jehovah’s people, and “do not fail to listen to the voice of Jehovah your God.” Then you can remain under the protection of our King and High Priest and of the heavenly riders of the chariots. Have as full a share as possible in supporting true worship. As you do so, you can be certain that Jehovah of armies will keep you safe and secure during the remainder of this system of things—and for eternity! The organization is your temple, and your idol. The true temple of God: Insight on the Scriptures Volume 2, page 1083 Anointed Christians—A Spiritual Temple. Anointed Christians on earth are likened to a number of things, including a temple. This comparison is fitting because God’s spirit dwells within the congregation of anointed ones. Paul wrote to the Christians in Ephesus “in union with Christ Jesus,” those who are “sealed with the promised holy spirit,” saying: “You have been built up upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, while Christ Jesus himself is the foundation cornerstone. In union with him the whole building, being harmoniously joined together, is growing into a holy temple for Jehovah. In union with him you, too, are being built up together into a place for God to inhabit by spirit.” (Eph 1:1, 13;2:20-22) These “sealed” ones, laid upon Christ as Foundation, are shown to number 144,000. (Re 7:4; 14:1) The apostle Peter speaks of these as “living stones” being “built up a spiritual house for the purpose of a holy priesthood.”—1Pe 2:5. Since these underpriests are “God’s building,” he will not let this spiritual temple suffer defilement. Paul emphasizes the holiness of this spiritual temple, and the danger to one who attempts to defile it, when he writes: “Do you not know that you people are God’s temple, and that the spirit of God dwells in you? If anyone destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him; for the temple of God is holy, which temple you people are.”—1Co 3:9, 16, 17; see also 2Co 6:16. The true Temple is no longer recognizable. It has been defiled by a false priesthood/elder body replacing God's true priests. 2 Thess 2:3,4 It has been defiled by a false prophet/Harlot and her lies. Revelation speaks of demonic expressions emanating from the mouth of a false prophet, a "Beast" that conquers the Temple of God, and from the devil himself. These expressions have not developed instantly, but gradually into a complete blasphemous lie against the Temple of God. The example given, is of a frog. A frog begins as an egg and eventually turns into, in this case, a plague of lies. Rev 16:12-16; 13:7 The organization is that Beast. Rev 13:1 The composite false prophet is the Beast speaking as if from Christ. Rev 13:11; Matt 24:24 Please JWs, can't you see the transformation of the organization into a complete blasphemous lie? Jesus has been the chief cornerstone of God's Temple since 2,000 years ago. It has been "building" since then, with faithful living stones being sealed into it. What is the foundation stone for the organization/idol? It isn't Jesus Christ. The organization is the mountainlike idol that will be removed. Soon Jehovah removes the mountainlike obstacle of the official ban, and the temple is completed in 515 B.C.E. (Ezra 6:22; Zech. 4:6, 7) God's true temple in the anointed ones will not survive among the haven of lies. It is imperative that they leave the idol, as should all JWs. Rev 18:4-8 The Temple will be completed, and the last "living stones" will be set in place outside the Watchtower's walls. Zech 4:6,7 it is then, that the Kingdom will arrive. Zech 4:6-14; Rev 11:1-4 "The second angel blew his trumpet, and something like a great mountain ablaze with fire was hurled into the sea." Rev 8:8
  17. The GB. God appreciates gifts of money. “A Gift in Hand for Jehovah” Our Christian Life and Ministry—Meeting Workbook—2018 “Jehovah’s organization” is apparently owned by “Jehovah”. To support his cause, it takes money. He needs your money to make it successful. Voluntary giving has always been customary among Jehovah’s modern-day servants. At times, however, some have not taken full advantage of their privilege of supporting God’s cause by making donations. W 92/1/15 p. 19 Love for God and neighbor and the urgency of the Kingdom-preaching work move God’s people “to come forward . . . with a gift in hand for Jehovah” by making voluntary donations. Wt 16/11 p. 20 If you’ll recall, the preaching work by the apostles was driven by Holy Spirit. (Acts 16:6-10) The organization is driven by money, validating the GB’s admittance that they are not inspired; and if they are not inspired by Holy Spirit, than neither is the organization. Rev 13:15 “God’s cause” is really the desires of men, and “a gift in hand” for the GB. God can do anything without the need for money. He can make “the rocks cry out”. Luke 19:39,40 So why would He have a cause in money-making schemes derived in Satan’s world; labeled a preaching work which tells made up stories about Armageddon, Christ not reigning as king until 1914, “this generation”, the “other sheep”, who is the “faithful slave”, etc….right down to the way you should dress? 2 Pet 2:3 I am not here to make enemies but to reveal truth and expose lies. If you will, consider reading Romans 10:6-13, and you will see that Romans 10:13-15 refers to calling on the name of Jesus. The majority of the Jews already professed belief in God, but not in Christ. It is Jesus and having faith in him, that Paul is speaking of. If you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,”and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. Rom 10:9 Christ’s true followers recognize this, but JWs have been deceived. Just this one sample of a scriptural change by the Watchtower, helps bolster its ideals that “Jehovah’s organization” is the road to salvation. This leaves Christ who through the power of God is our only salvation, powerless, as Satan would prefer it. Dan 8:25 Compare verse 9 and verse 13 together. Jesus Christ as the chief cornerstone of his Temple built on his body, has been rejected for an organization. It matters not that his name is mentioned. John 5:38-40; 2 Cor 11:4 Have you ever wondered how all the early faithful believers of Christ and the Father were able to obtain salvation without the Watchtower? Yes, we all can spread TRUTH; but, dear Anna, I don’t think you have noticed that I have mentioned a few times that the other sheep were the anointed physical Gentiles added to the “little flock” (Matt 15:24) of fleshly Jews to make a new Nation of “Israel”. Acts 13:46; 10:45,47; Rom 1:16; 2:9,10,28,29; John 10:16,27; Isa 56:8; Ezek 34:23; Rev 7:17 The primary preaching is an assignment given to the anointed ones. Mal 2:7; 1 Pet 2:5,9 In the time of the end, this service to God has been consumed by those not anointed. The elders have gradually taken charge of what is taught. 2 Thess 2:1-4 The message of Christ has been changed by the authority of an organization. Instead of Christ being our sole salvation, an idol that must be served by the hands of men, has become the path of salvation. Isa 2:8 This presents a difficult decision to be made by all JWs. Matt 24:4,5,15-22 The false promise of serving the organization’s needs is offered as leading one to eternal life. 1 Tim 4:3,4; 2 Thess 2:9-12 There is no scripture to verify this. The Watchtower has changed scripture to suit the desires of men; their voracious appetite to own, build, and obtain power over others, is manipulated by a belief in God as a driving force to win over hearts. Eccl 9:12; Amos 3:5 We do not live under the old covenant and the early temple arrangement, but the New Covenant which is the spiritual Temple. There is no more need for the earthly building endeavors by men. Gal 4:26 There is no more physical temple to maintain. “Our fathers had the tabernacle of witness in the wilderness, as He appointed, instructing Moses to make it according to the pattern that he had seen, 45 which our fathers, having received it in turn, also brought with Joshua into the land possessed by the Gentiles, whom God drove out before the face of our fathers until the days of David, 46 who found favor before God and asked to find a dwelling for the God of Jacob. 47 But Solomon built Him a house. 48 “However, the Most High does not dwell in temples made with hands, as the prophet says: 49 ‘Heaven is My throne, And earth is My footstool. What house will you build for Me? says the Lord, Or what is the place of My rest? 50 Has My hand not made all these things?’ The Jews were not willing to give up their material temple and accept Christ as the chief cornerstone of God’s dwelling. Stephen called them “stiff-necked” for resisting the Holy Spirit. He was stoned to death by the Jews. Today, God’s anointed ones and companions who realize what Stephen was speaking about, and who reject “Jehovah’s organization”, are symbolically “stoned” – considered spiritually dead. If I have turned to Christ and the Father completely, serving as He directs me to serve, am I really spiritually “dead” in His eyes, or only in the eyes of men who want me dead? Matt 5:11;16:25; Rev 11:1-3,7 Think about it, would Christ relinquish his name as our salvation by giving this title over to an earthly polluted entity, (no organization in this world can be pure) spawned and grown in his enemy’s material world, for a mere 100 years? Acts 4:2; Job 14:4 Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures: The stone that the builders rejected has become the cornerstone. This is what the Lord has done and it is wonderful in our eyes? 43 Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people producing its fruit. 44 Whoever falls on this stone will be broken to pieces; but on whomever it falls, it will shatter him.” 45 When the chief priests and the Pharisees heard his parables, they knew he was speaking about them. 46 Although they were looking for a way to arrest him, they feared the crowds, because the people regarded him as a prophet. Matt 21:41-46
  18. Do JWs need to be reminded of their website? There were a lot of little flags put to work on these cupcakes, for not symbolizing anything.
  19. They may invite Caleb and Sophia over for tea, though. Yes, children are taught kingdom halls are "God's House". https://download-a.akamaihd.net/files/media_publication/e2/pk_E_018_r720P.mp4
  20. One more thing, Allen. Deception begets deception. I see "Billy the Kid" has adopted the easy path of deception that his leaders have taught him.
  21. I suppose every JW child knows God doesn't live in kingdom halls also. Then why teach GOD needs your money? Just like you know God doesn’t live in Bethel, the "house of God", (I'm sure many JWs consider Bethel God's dwelling), we also know God doesn't need money, or an organization to get His work completed; since He works directly with His Temple priests who finally acknowledge what it means to worship in spirit and truth. 1 Cor 3:16,17 He works directly with those believers in Christ who want to do the same. Isa 2:2,3
  22. ; Luke 12:32 Ahh, you are thinking I am applying this to the anointed remnant that comes out of the Watchtower. No. The “little flock” were physical Jews; who, when added to the Gentile “other sheep”, became one anointed flock under Christ as the new Nation of “Israel”. John 10:16; Rom.9:6; 2:28-29; Gal.6:15-16; 3:28-29 If faithful, they would also receive the Kingdom. Rev 5:9,10 The number of anointed who survive Armageddon, are few. Eze.14:22; Luke13:23-24; 18:26-27; Matt.7:13-14
  23. Not sure how you get any of that out of "proclaiming the excellencies" of God as one of His priests.
  24. I don't think it was my interpretation, but the way you wrote. The above is much clearer. And I said that the one flock is comprised of all anointed ones - fleshly Jews and physical Gentiles uniting in one anointed Body of spiritual "Israel". If God's interests on earth are only of a spiritual nature, then why would He need buildings dedicated to Him? Why is Prov 3:9 interpreted by the GB as your donations? Why would one be disfellowshipped from the organization if the entire interest of God was spiritual? Why is Warwick called the "House of God"? Acts 7:48
  25. Perhaps I read it wrong: "This became the Christian congregation made up of not only anointed Jews (Israelites) but also anointed Gentiles. Hence, this new nation came to be known as "spiritual Israel", who with those not anointed (the other sheep) became one flock. 1 Pet. 2:9" But after reading again, I come up with the same interpretation. “Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; 20 but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. Matt 6:19
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