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  1. One monumental moment when they swallowed their pride.
  2. It’s a typical two-sided coin for JWs to make sense of, or remain thoroughly confused by it. They must be convinced they’re “proud of the organization”’ thus, proud to be a JW. “ Are you not proud to be part of an organization that cares so much for its members?” “Do you feel proud to be part of an organization in which people truly love one another?” Both quotes from the same magazine - w 14/12/15 Other side of the coin: “Proud people reject the idea that they need to be taught anything” w19 January pp. 1-32 We see that in action. JWs shut down all conversation at the cart or when speaking to an “apostate”. Some here, excluded. “One definition of pride is inordinate self-esteem. That kind of pride gives one an improper feeling of self-importance and superiority, perhaps because of beauty, race, rank, talents, or wealth. (James 4:13-16) The Bible speaks of men being “puffed up with pride.” (2 Timothy 3:4) In other words, they have an inflated opinion of themselves, one that is unjustified.” g 3/07 pp. 20-21 JWs must be proud to be a part of the organization, "puffed up with pride" over belonging to it; but also humble at the same time; otherwise they are not happy. Are they happy also when they are proud? I haven’t looked it up. “Why do those who are part of God’s organization need to be humble? 8 Those who are humble are happy in God’s organization and support the way things are done in the congregation. A humble person supports the elders and the way things are done in the congregation” ws12 11/15 pp. Can one be humble and proud at the same time for the same reason – being part of a religious, hypocritical organization? Ps 18:27; Prov 8:13; 16:18; 1 John 2:16 Now that I finally have the opportunity to see Watchtower’s contradictions placed side by side, I wonder how I lasted as long as I did in the organization, without going insane.
  3. Such as the hypocritical “Pharisees” of today - the GB. “Then he gave them strict orders: “Watch out! Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and the leaven of Herod.” Mark 8:15 Matt 15:7-9: You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, when he said: 8 “‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; 9 in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’” Exactly; which is why we are to recognize and reject rotten fruit when we hear it. Matt 7:15-20 Jer 23:16 - Thus says the Lord of hosts: "Do not listen to the words of the prophets who prophesy to you, filling you with vain hopes. They speak visions of their own minds, not from the mouth of the Lord." Ps 26:4 – “I do not sit with men of falsehood, nor do I consort with hypocrites.”
  4. He replied: “The one who sows the good seed is the Son of Man; 38 the field is the world; and the good seed—these are the children of the kingdom. The weeds are the children of the evil one, 39 and the enemy who sowed them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels. 40 Therefore, just as the weeds are gathered and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age. 41 The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will gather from his kingdom all who cause sin and those guilty of lawlessness. 42 They will throw them into the blazing furnace where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 43 Then the righteous will shine like the sun in their Father’s kingdom. Let anyone who has ears listen. Matt 13:37-14 His winnowing fork is in his hand to clear his threshing floor and to gather the wheat into his barn, but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.” Luke 3:17 “…just as the weeds are gathered and burned in the fire” "...burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire". Literal fire? “I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled!” “Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division. 52 From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three. 53 They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.” Luke 12:49-53 This is what takes place when a JW rejects the lies. The teachings/words of Christ are “fire” that burns against the lies. Jer 23:29 - “Is not my word like fire,” declares the Lord, “and like a hammer that breaks a rock in pieces? When lies are burned by "fire"/God's word through Christ, those who submit to His word, are refined and cleansed of lies, idolatry. "I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on your eyes, so you can see." Rev 3:18 This again supports Armageddon as a decisive battle between those who speak truth and those who speak lies. It is a war of words. Joel 3:14 Satan’s outlandish deception of “truth” is the lie. 2 Thess 2:9-12 Only Christ is truth, it is his words that we have in the Bible that give life; not the doctrine of men and their organization. John 3:36;John 14:6 God “sends” his “angels”/messengers to expose and burn the lie, using truth from Christ. 2 Thess 2:8; Rev 16:13-16; 11:1-3
  5. It does make a significant difference. Do you love the lie that the Watchtower has taught you about the anointed? Do you know what you have been taught? You made a misnomer that the anointed will "rule over the earth", which in WT language translates into, only from heaven. I revealed the truth from scripture. Oh Tom. When you get this part of the story right I'll continue to answer your comments.
  6. Those who leave the organization to follow only the Father and Christ, are then labeled as rejected. They found the “fruit”/teachings to be rotten. The leaving happens before the rejection, which Jesus stated would occur to those who turned to him. Matt 7:15-20; John 15:20; Matt 5:11,12 John 16:2 – “They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God.” “out of the synagogues” – “excluded from sacred assemblies of Israelites, excommunicated” Matt 10:18 – “You will be brought before governors (GB) and kings (elders) for My sake, as a testimony to them and to the Gentiles.” So, who “went out” from among who, to being with? John is speaking of the presence of the “antichrist”. He leads off by saying, “Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that theAntichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour.” 1 John 2:18 The first “antichrist” in the Jewish system was the rule of the Pharisees. They rejected Christ and had him killed by Gentiles. We have another prophetic “Jewish” system intact right now – the organization, led by those who reject Christ. How do we know they reject him although they speak about him? One way of knowing, is simply because the organization “excommunicates” those anointed in Christ and all believers of Christ, which gives proof of the presence of another antichrist. They realize that an “organization” steeped in the traditions of men is not SALVATION. They realize that there is “no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” Acts 4:12 The other validation of the organization as the antichrist, which is “lawlessness” against the law of God fulfilled in Christ, is the given power of the elders over the “saints”/anointed priesthood, who are the Temple of God. Matt 24:48-51; Ezek 44:6-9;2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:19-22 The Pharisees rejected the new “Temple” God was building. John 2:19-22 The GB rejects the “living stones” of that Temple built on Christ, because the GB has established their own “temple”, which is the organization. The rejection of the priesthood is not only inside but outside the organization. The Pharisees held on to the old structure of worship, and it was destroyed. The organization demands obedience to its fabricated structure of worship, and according to Revelation, it too, will be destroyed. Rev 13:4,5-8; Rev 19:20 The scriptures are like a puzzle that when joined together, give us evidence of this happening as John said, at the last hour. “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. 2 Tim 4:3,4 Those who “went out from us” are those from the anointed Body of Christ who “maligned the way of truth”. As all anointed are, they were tested by Satan and took up his offer to dominate their brothers in Christ. Luke 22:31; 4:5-7; Mat 24:48-51 They fell from God’s favor and pursued the riches of this world. Rev 8:10,11; Heb 12:14-17 Satan, now has his out to build his deception which captured all anointed with bits of truth. 2 Thess 2:9-12 “But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. 2 And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. 3 By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction [a]does not slumber.” 2 Pet 2:1-3 In verse 3 - Through, “greedy desire to have more, covetousness, avarice”, “shall they with “fictitious” words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.” Paul tells the anointed ones: “Beware lest anyone cheat you ("exploits" you, "make merchandise of you") through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ. 9 For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily; 10 and you are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power.” Col 2:8 This is what Revelation reveals, the true identity of the “antichrist”/”man of lawlessness” which is the elder body of the organization, “exalting itself” over the Temple, and “sitting”/ruling/judging the anointed priests. This is presently directed by the “false prophet”. 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 13:1,11,13-17 “The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send (“to bid a thing to be carried to one”) them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness." 2 Thess 2:9-12 We “fall” into this deceptive rule by men, by the “edge of the sword” – God’s word of truth ,used as bait. Heb 4:12 As true to prophesy, the anointed are now “captive” among the nations of people from all over the world. This "camp of saints" is surrounded, captive to Watchtower's "empty philosophy". Rev 16:13-16; 20:9 On the other hand, they are also dispersed, not allowed to be unified under their one Head, Jesus Christ. Joel 3:2 This captivity to “empty philosophy”, affects all JWs. The anointed are now “trampled” by uncircumcised “Gentiles”/elders who rule over them. It is this “man of lawlessness” that rejects them, by spiritually “killing” them. Rev 13:15 Those who are rejected/excommunicated from the "synagogues" by the "man of lawlessness" are not the ones who speak against Christ, but on behalf of him. 24 "And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.” Luke 21:24 It is the divisive sword that discerns each heart’s love, for either truth or lies. Rev 13:10 Truth is not found in half-truths spoken by men. It is found “outside” the camp where those who follow Christ suffer “disgrace” put upon them by their own people. They “seek the city to come”, not putting their faith in “Jehovah’s organization” – a “continuing city” that is full of blasphemy in every definition of the word, just as the early Jewish system had become in Jesus’ day. Heb 13:12-14 I wish JWs would reject living in blasphemy. To make this “tribulating” decision of either keeping the life one loves under false circumstances, or being rejecting and finding peace and truth from Christ, is the essence the great tribulation/Armageddon. Matt 16:25 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’ Matt 7:21-23
  7. Nice definition. Additionally, it has been found that some of the older explanations about types and antitypes are unduly difficult for many to grasp. The details of such teachings—who pictures whom and why—can be hard to keep straight, to remember, and to apply. Of even greater concern, though, is that the moral and practical lessons of the Bible accounts under examination may be obscured or lost in all the scrutiny of possible antitypical fulfillments. Thus, we find that our literature today focuses more on the simple, practical lessons about faith, endurance, godly devotion, and other vital qualities that we learn about from Bible accounts. w15 3/15 p. 9-10 So, the focus is on "moral and practical lessons of the Bible", "simple, practical lessons about faith, endurance, godly devotion, etc. Yet, this doesn't stop them from labeling Revelation's identities as they please. However, it gives them an excuse to stay clear of Matt 17:3,10,11 and the "restoration" of "Jacob." (Luke 1:16,17; Mal 4:6)
  8. That I am among? It is the role of every anointed since Christ, if they are found faithful and obedient only to Christ...and not to men.
  9. Back at it I see. Wrong. "And have made us kings and priests to our God; And we shall reign on the earth.” Rev 5:10 Do you see this? "ON". As priests, they are God’s “messengers”. Mal 2:7 - “For the lips of a priest should keep knowledge, And people should seek the law from his mouth; For he is the messenger of the Lord of hosts. Angels in Greek means…”a messenger, envoy, one who is sent, an angel, a messenger from God.” John 1:51 - And he saith unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man. Jesus was telling Nathaneal that this is how he would see the angel messengers/144,000 (and be among them) come down… “out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God. Rev 21:2,3 As a “new creation”, both spirit and human, Christ’s Bride, as well as Christ himself will have access to both heaven and earth. 2 Cor 5:17 Have you ever wondered how God would “dwell” with His children if not through the anointed priests/kings, who are His spiritual house, along with their Head, Jesus? 1 Pet 2:5 - you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 1 Cor 3:16 - Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? Eph 2:21 - in whom the whole building, being fitted together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord, 22 in whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit. This dwelling place of God's Spirit includes Christ. Jesus answered and said to them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. But He was speaking of the temple of His body." John 2:19,21 How can the Bride “come down from heaven” and not be on the earth? Rev 22:17 - And the Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let him who hears say, “Come!” And let him who thirsts come. Whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely. I will let you research the Hebrew meaning for “thousand”. You’ll find it on the internet. I can give further symbolic meaning of the number, but will you care to read it? Remember when you said you don’t always take time to read thoroughly? Well, you don’t. I said for over 30 years I never did partake of the emblems, rejecting my anointing for the entire time in the organization. They are. One of the signs of the last days to "deceive the elect", the called "saints", are "false christs and false prophets" showing great signs and wonders to deceive. Matt 24:24 They are found directing an "organization"/Beast. Rev 13. Have you read this chapter? You appear to love "great signs and wonders, the "high places" that are easily seen. Isa 2:12,17,18; Micah 1:3 Is your version of "track record" of acceptability the same as God's? Have they suffered for the sake of Christ, despised and persecuted for his sake, or for the sake of an earthly organization? They are insulated from all "persecution" that comes from "apostates"; which is nothing. They rule over their "brothers" in Christ. Luke 22:24-27; Matt 24:48-51; Rom 12:16 I have never done that. Please show me where I have held myself up as a preferred substitute over Jesus Christ, whom your leaders proclaim to be "ambassadors substituting for Christ". 2 Cor 5:20 Compare this reading in all other Bibles. If you find any translation, including the Greek Interlinear, that reads the same way as the perverted NWT, please let me know.
  10. In the recent Watchtower book, “Pure Worship of Jehovah, Restored at Last!”, it is stated: “In the past, our literature has referred to Christendom as the antitype of apostate Jerusalem. The conditions in unfaithful Jerusalem—including IDOLATRY AND WIDESPREAD CORRUPTION—certainly remind us of what is happening in Christendom. However, in recent years our publications, including the one you are now reading, have not taken the type-antitype approach to prophecy except where the Bible provides a clear basis for doing so. Is there a solid Scriptural basis for referring to Christendom as the ANTITYPICAL JERUSALEM? NO. In view of the foregoing, what may we conclude? When we examine Bible prophecies that were fulfilled on unfaithful Jerusalem, we may say, ‘This or that reminds us of what we see in Christendom today.’ But there appears to be NO SCRIPTURAL BASIS for referring to Christendom as the antitypical Jerusalem.” Pure Worship of Jehovah—Restored At Last! p. 174 First off, what do they mean by “antitypical”? An “antitype” is, …something that corresponds to or is foreshadowed in a type …or an opposite type. After many years, the Watchtower is now saying Christendom does not correspond in any way to ancient Jerusalem. Jerusalem was the “holy city” of God. Under the New Covenant promise, “Jerusalem above” is the “city whose architect and builder is God”. Heb 11:10 It is referred in scripture as the “mother” of the anointed ones. Luke 22:20; Gal 4:26,24; Heb 9:15 Mothers bring life, and this mother/promise brings immortal life to those faithful sealed anointed ones. Together, they become the “New Jerusalem”, Zion. Heb 12:22,23 As the fulfillment of that New Covenant/promise, “New Jerusalem”, the Holy City, will be seen “coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. Rev 21:2 And, as the fulfilled promise, the Bride will bring life to the rest of the children of God. “And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s DWELLING PLACE is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God.” Rev 21:3 Rom 8:19-21; Rev 22:17 The city of Jerusalem was the location of God’s dwelling place – His temple at the time. Today, God “dwells” within the hearts of His anointed priests through His Holy Spirit. His dwelling place, or His “house”, is His Temple. 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; 2 Cor 6:16; Eph 2:20-22 “New Jerusalem”, the Temple, the Holy City, all refer to one and the same; comprised of this priesthood joined under Christ, their High Priest. Heb 7:26 This makes “New Jerusalem” the “city/house that bears My name”. Acts 7:49; Rev 3:12 If Christendom is no longer taught as the “antitypical” Jerusalem, the organization can no longer point to Christendom to fulfill the many prophetic scriptures that concern the “holy city”/Temple/New Jerusalem. JWs, this means all the earlier teachings by the WT that point to Christendom as that “city” which receives condemnation for its abominations, realistically points to the anointed under covenant with God. The organization admits: “Jerusalem was the ONLY city in all the earth that was DIRECTLY ASSOCIATED WITH GOD’S NAME. (1 Kings 11:36; Matthew 5:35) It was the capital of a God-approved earthly kingdom. 06/7/15 p. 5,6 Past teachings of the WT tell a different story in the following quotes from the Watchtower: #1 – Christendom’s congregations say ‘Lord, Lord,’ even as sexual immorality flourishes in their midst. “Will you steal and murder, commit adultery and perjury, burn incense to Baal and follow other gods you have not known,” Jehovah asks, “and then come and stand before me in THIS HOUSE, WHICH BEARS MY NAME, and say, ‘We are safe’—safe to do all these detestable things?”—Jeremiah 7:4, 8-10, g89/1/22 pg 11 #2 - Christendom will be the FIRST PART of this system of things to go down, for she is the modern-day counterpart of the apostate kingdom of Judah and Jerusalem. To typify that, the kingdom of Judah was made the first to drink the “cup” that contained “the wine of rage.” Jehovah said that it was with “THE CITY UPON WHICH [HIS] NAME IS CALLED” that he would start off in bringing the international calamity. (Jer. 25:29) Unchristlike Christendom is the most accountable religious section before God and Christ, and so from her the world calamity would go, as in a chain reaction. W79/9/15 pp. 22-29, par 23 Now, going back to the same book that declares, “there appears to be no Scriptural basis for referring to Christendom as the antitypical Jerusalem”, the statement is made, #3 - “During the war of Armageddon, Jehovah will execute people, not in a cold, clinical manner, but in a “great rage.” (Read Ezekiel 38:18.) He will direct the explosive force of his anger, not against one army or one nation, but against countless individuals living across the globe. On that day, those slain by Jehovah “will be from one end of the earth clear to the other end of the earth.”—Jer. 25:29, 33. RR, chapter 18, pp. 189-199 Do you notice in all three quotes, reference is made by either listing scripture or by quoting it in the paragraph, to the “city” or “house that bears My name”, which today is the anointed in covenant with God? Paragraph #1 quotes Jer 7:4,8-10: “Do not trust in deceptive words and say, “This is the temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord!” “But look, you are trusting in deceptive words that are worthless.9 “‘Will you steal and murder, commit adultery and perjury, burn incense to Baal and follow other gods you have not known, 10 and then come and stand before me IN THIS HOUSE, WHICH BEARS MY NAME, and say, We are safe”—safe to do all these detestable things?” Is it not true that the “safe haven” for JWs is in “Jehovah’s spiritual temple” – the organization and a counterfeit Zion? This idol tramples down the authentic Temple of God, His priesthood. 1 Cor 3:16,17 Isn’t this a sign that God’s people are committing “spiritual adultery and perjury” through their devotion and dedication to “Jehovah’s spiritual temple”? Matt 24:15; 2 Thess 2:3,4, 9-12; Rev 11:1,2; 13:1,4-6 Paragraph #2 quotes Jer 25:29 – “See, I am beginning to bring disaster on THE CITY THAT BEARS MY NAME, and will you indeed go unpunished? You will not go unpunished, for I am calling down a sword on all who live on the earth, declares the Lord Almighty.’” #3 - In this new book, although it clearly states Christendom does not correspond to Jerusalem, again Jer 25:29 is sited, which says the disaster in the last days comes upon THE CITY THAT BEARS MY NAME. Did you catch this, JWs? Can you untwist the history of Watchtower teachings and perceive what and where the disaster will fall? Yet, they deceitfully continue to put the blame of the prophetic disaster to come, on everyone else, except on the now apostate “city that bears My name”, the anointed under covenant with God. Deut 12:2-5; Zech 4:7-9; Rev 6:15,16; 8:8; 16:20 Pearl Doxsey wrote the following in 2013, well before the “new light” (barely visible) came into being: God Himself says of His own people, "The faithful city has become a harlot" Isa.1:21; 63:18; Rev.17:1 Is "Christendom" the "faithful city"? If not...Then it is not the "harlot". Hosea makes clear that this "harlotry" is the act of an "adulterous wife" (Hosea9:1; 1:2; 5:4; 9:1). Being as a wife to God requires a marriage covenant (Isa.54:5,6,7; 48:17; Jer.3:8,14; Hosea2:19; Ps.73:27). Is "Christendom"/"nominal Christians" in covenant with God? Revelation's Harlot is not "Christendom"/"nominal Christians" at all!...but are ruling, unfaithful anointed in covenant with God... the "wicked steward" (Luke12:42,45; Rev.17:6) (Luke12:46; Hosea6:5; Jer.5:14; 23:29; Rev.18:8) and all anointed who stay a part of her organizational Beast, are committing fornication with her (Rev.13:1; 17:2,12,16; 18:9; 1:5; 5:10; John18:36). From within that Sodom-like City, God will cleanse a remnant and restore them, IF they are repentant. They are restored back to being "the city of righteousness, THE FAITHFUL CITY". (Isa.1:25,26,27; Zech.13:9; Mal.3:3; Zech.4:9,6,12,14; Rev.11:4,3; Rev.3:12; 21:2; Ps.48:8) Is that faithful remnant from the city OF JERUSALEM, from "Christendom"? According to Jesus, "Jerusalem" is "the City of the living God/Great King" (Matt.5:35; Ps.48:2). IT IS NOT “CHRISTENDOM”. These prophecies about "Jerusalem" are not about "Christendom". THESE PROPHECIES DO NOT APPLY AS THE “WATCHTOWER” HAS TAUGHT. There is no "anti-typical Jerusalem" according to scripture. If the Bible says "Jerusalem", it means "Jerusalem". While their pride refuses to apply God's warnings and discipline to themselves; the scriptural clarity of "Watchtower" ERROR, is inescapable. The prophets of Jerusalem were compared to Sodom (Jer.23:14). Their land was to become a desolation (Jer.49:18; 50:39; Rev.18:2). This speaks of God's people...Lam.4:6 DO NOT BE DECEIVED! (1Thess.5:3,6,7; Mark13:36,37,35) As a result, can Revelation’s end time fulfillment to come against God’s people, be sourced outside of the Watchtower and outside of where the House/dwelling/now “apostate” city of God resides? No! Not even Watchtower’s interpretation of the “King of the North.” “Son of man, will you judge her? Will you judge this city of bloodshed? Then confront her with all her detestable practices 3 and say: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: You city that brings on herself doom by shedding blood in her midst and defiles herself by making idols, 4 you have become guilty because of the blood you have shed and have become defiled by the idols you have made. You have brought your days to a close, and the end of your years has come. Therefore I will make you an object of scorn to the nations and a laughingstock to all the countries. 5 Those who are near and those who are far away will mock you, you infamous city, full of turmoil. Again the word of the Lord came to me: 24 “Son of man, say to the land, ‘You are a land that has not been cleansed or rained on in the day of wrath.’ 25 There is a conspiracy of her princes within her like a roaring lion tearing its prey; they devour people, take treasures and precious things and make many widows within her. 26 Her priests do violence to my law and profane my holy things; they do not distinguish between the holy and the common; they teach that there is no difference between the unclean and the clean; and they shut their eyes to the keeping of my Sabbaths, so that I am profaned among them.27 Her officials within her are like wolves tearing their prey; they shed blood and kill people to make unjust gain. 28 Her prophets whitewash these deeds for them by false visions and lying divinations. They say, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says’—when the Lord has not spoken.29 The people of the land practice extortion and commit robbery; they oppress the poor and needy and mistreat the foreigner, denying them justice. Ezek 22:2-5,23-29 “Armageddon” – Obadiah’s blog Pearl Doxsey, 4womaninthewilderness: “Sodom/Four Horsemen” “End of the New Covenant” “The Disgusting Thing Standing in a Holy Place”Matt 24:15
  11. Sugar-coated, empty calories; otherwise known as "nourishing food".
  12. Matt 5:11 - Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Matt 19:29 - And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life. Matt 10:39 - Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it. What "life" have many "found" and dare not lose? "When we use our time to prepare for God’s new world, are we missing out on a better way of life today? No! Serving Jehovah is the best way of life. To prepare for everlasting life in the new world, we need to obey the direction from Jehovah’s organization now. WT 15/8/15 pg 19-20 When anyone rejects this "life", giving full attention to Jesus and the Father only, division occurs. Luke 12:49 - “I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled! 50 But I have a baptism to undergo, and what constraint I am under until it is completed! 51 Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division. 52 From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three. 53 They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.” The division and persecution for following Christ is experienced among God’s people, just as it was in Jesus’ day. Many claim to follow Jesus Christ around the world, but Jesus gives the indication of who is persecuting God's people. John 16:2,3 - "They will put you out of the synagogue (“congregation); in fact, the time is coming when anyone who kills (Rev 13:15) you will think they are offering a service to God. 3 They will do such things because they have not known the Father or me." The synagogue today is where spiritual "Jews"/"Israel" are found. (Rev 7:4; Rom 9:6; 1 Pet 2:9,10) Do JWs suffer for Christ’s sake? No, they suffer on behalf of an organization, but they are taught they suffer because “Jehovah” expects them to have steadfast faith and dedication in an earthly organization under any circumstances. They have created a counterfeit fortress to protect them, instead of relying fully on God. Dan 11:36-38; Rom 1:25 Those who are ‘put out’ of the congregations for following Christ, are reviled by their own people, in the same way Jesus was. Matt 11:28-30 - “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble inheart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.” Are JWs finding rest as part of “Jehovah’s organization”, or are they experiencing turmoil in nations around the world? Ps 106:40-43 - "Therefore the Lord was angry with his people and abhorred his inheritance. 41 He gave them into the hands of the nations, and their foes ruled over them. 42 Their enemies oppressed them and subjected them to their power. 43 Many times he delivered them, but they were bent on rebellion and they wasted away in their sin." The call is to “come out of her, my people”. Who’s sins are magnified in front of God; those of Christendom, or those of “Jehovah’s organization” where God’s “chosen” anointed people are found captive to empty philosophy, the misguided teachings of a Harlot and a Beast/organization? Rev 18:4-8; Isa 43:10; 1 Pet 2:5,9; Col 2:8; Rev 13:1,4-10, 11,12,14-17
  13. Just in case this developmental change escaped the notice of JWs: 1955/7/1/411: A Christian, therefore, cannot be baptized in the name of the one actually doing the immersing or in the name of any man, nor in the name of any organization, but in the name of the Father, the Son and the holy spirit W 1966/10/1 - We do not dedicate ourselves to a religion, nor to a man, nor to an organization. No, we dedicate ourselves to the Supreme Sovereign of the Universe, our Creator, Jehovah God himself. 1958,1960, 1973 - On the basis of this faith in God and in his provision for salvation have you dedicated yourself unreservedly to God to do his will henceforth as he reveals it to you through Jesus Christ and through the Bible under the enlightening power of the holy spirit? 1985 - The second is: Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with God’s spirit-directed organization? 1987 4/15 - Recently the two questions addressed to baptismal candidates were simplified so that candidates could answer with full comprehension of what is involved in coming into intimate relationship with God and his earthly organization. Simplified for full comprehension of one’s stand taken before God, or before an earthly organization? It has been a gradual methodical change from what was true in 1955 to 1984, to now baptizing individuals into an idol. I am clueless why JWs gave this a thumbs up when baptism in the organization has moved completely away from unreservedly dedicating oneself to God to dedication to the organization. JWs now practice this fully developed lie, with little comprehension of what they are believing, otherwise they would question the change. Jesus’ command has been stripped down by men and redressed, to “serve/believe the lie”, but which is thoroughly accepted as truth. 2 Thess 2:9-12 Then I saw three unclean spirits like frogs coming from the dragon’s mouth, from the beast’s mouth,(organization) and from the mouth of the false prophet. (GB) For they are demonic spirits performing signs, who travel to the kings (anointed Rev 1:5) of the whole world to assemble them for the battle on the great day of God, the Almighty. 15 “Look, I am coming like a thief. Blessed is the one who is alert and remains clothed so that he may not go around naked and people see his shame.” 16 So they assembled the kings at the place called in Hebrew, Armageddon. Rev 16:12-16
  14. I focused on “God’s standards”, but after reading the comment by Srecko and John, I realized I missed this part highlighted : Typically, JWs believe qualifying to be a JW is following God’s standards. One must enter into a religion formulated by men to “qualify” for life, which is why a person becomes a Mormon, a Seventh Day Adventist or a Catholic. They gather their flock and pin them down with rituals to be observed and interpretations called doctrine that must be adhered to. When men rule over men, God’s standards which are based on Christ’s teachings, do not exist. The captive treasure that the Watchtower uses for its unique validation as “the truth”, are the anointed ones. Rev 20:7-9; 13:10 See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces of this world rather than on Christ. Col 2:8 The “elemental spiritual forces” that instigate the need of an earthly organization, a labeled religion to serve God, is sourced in Satan. The man in the video who is being slandered because of his desire to put faith in the truths of the Bible, is beginning to wake up to this fact. He has every reason to be angry.
  15. You are saying it is assumed that all those disfellowshipped for rejecting the organization, will reject God's standards as well. I doubt the elders have the ability to peer into the future and determine that the person they are disfellowshipping , will soon become trinitarians, homosexuals, etc. God's standards require rejection of idolatry. Exod 20: 4,5; Judges 10:14; Isa 44:9;46:3-5; Acts 4:12; 7:49-51; 17:24;25; Rev 13:1:4-7 God's standards require rejection of false prophesy. Deut 18:20-22; Ezek 13:9; Matt 7:15-20; 24:24; 2 Tim 4:3,4; Acts 20:28-30; 1 John 4:1; Rev 13:11,15 JWs may say they have faith in God, but practice both idolatry and tolerate false prophesy.
  16. There's a simple message in this video that doesn't require watching all 10 of them, or waiting to hear the "rest of the story". The reason I posted it is only to show the contradiction of Watchtower’s teachings, and what the consequences are for not having FAITH in the organization. Rev 13:4 What was told him on the day of baptism is also quoted in the Bible Teach Book: Baptism represents something very important. When you are immersed in water, it means that you have died to, or abandoned, your former way of life. When you come out of the water, you will begin a new life doing God’s will. It shows that you will serve Jehovah from now on. Remember that you are not dedicated to a human, an organization, or a work. You have dedicated your life to Jehovah. "Should I Dedicate My Life to God and be Baptized?" par 24 Hundreds of people are disfellowshipped every year for rejecting the organization, but STILL maintain their faith in God and Christ. What the C.O. stated is exactly what the organization believes. Rev 13:15 If one doesn’t put faith in the organization, their faith is garbage. Watchtower 79/3/1, pg 12-18, the article is entitiled, "FAITH IN JEHOVAH'S VICTORIOUS ORGANIZATION" God is NOT an organization. We are to put faith only in Him and His Son. “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments. Exod 20:4-6 Only those who see the hypocrisy and face the day they question it, will understand what this man is going through. I just hope there is a JW here asking the same questions as this man has.
  17. One more link, we can both perceive what's on the other side of the GB's veneer.
  18. None of the prophets' words pertain to God's people today? Salvation through the organization is in the bag?
  19. Pearl Doxsey and I work together; both of us are anointed. I quote pieces of her articles in some comments I place here, and give mention to the names of topics that one can research on her blog. With her help and what she has written, I now understand how Revelation’s judgments pertains to God’s “saints” and those with them. I’m not upset at all, John No man, no person should have authority over us and expect obedience. Our obedience is to God and Jesus and his Word. John 8:31,3 Whatever is presented by Pearl and myself is up to the reader to judge if it is “good fruit” and “fruit that will last”, as sourced in Holy Spirit from Jesus Christ. Matt 7:15-20; John 15:16; 13:20; (Matt 23:34) Preposterous. You are in the UK, I am in the states, on the far side of the country. I am a woman; and you, I gather, are the man in the picture. Our only link is that both of us appear to have suffered from child abuse. He's upset that I compare him with Foreigner, and the other identities that he swears he doesn't use. (I had forgotten about Felix the Cat) I view it as a conundrum when it comes to telling the truth - when I compare his actions to the religion he professes to follow - "the truth". Sounds like he's trying his best at using a straw man argument.
  20. Then I said, “Listen, you leaders of Jacob, you rulers of Israel. Should you not embrace justice, 2 you who hate good and love evil; who tear the skin from my people and the flesh from their bones; 3 who eat my people’s flesh, strip off their skin and break their bones in pieces; who chop them up like meat for the pan, like flesh for the pot?” 4 Then they will cry out to the Lord, but He will not answer them. At that time He will hide His face from them because of the evil they have done. 5 This is what the Lord says: “As for the prophets who lead my people astray, they proclaim ‘PEACE’ if they have something to eat, but prepare to wage war against anyone who refuses to feed them. 6 Therefore night will come over you, without visions, and darkness, without divination. The sun will set for the prophets, and the day will go dark for them. 7 The seers will be ashamed and the diviners disgraced. They will all cover their faces because there is no answer from God.” 8 But as for me, I am filled with power, with the Spirit of the Lord, and with justice and might, to declare to Jacob his transgression, to Israel his sin. 9 Hear this, you leaders of Jacob, you rulers of Israel, who despise justice and distort all that is right; 10 who build Zion with bloodshed, and Jerusalem with wickedness. 11 Her leaders judge for a bribe, her priests teach for a price, and her prophets tell fortunes for money. Yet they look for the Lord’s support and say, “Is not the Lord among us? No disaster will come upon us.” 12 Therefore because of you, Zion will be plowed like a field, Jerusalem will become a heap of rubble, the temple hill a mound overgrown with thickets.
  21. The investigation allegedly feared that the revelations in the programme might lead the movement's leaders to destroy incriminating evidence... Matt 10:26b - For there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known.
  22. I can say the same about you, dear Tom. Remember Fred Franz, one of your leaders? Here is his speech on the preaching work and how it was spread. Granted, he had a selfish view in mind when giving it, but his words are factual.
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