DeeDee

4 minutes ago, Bible Speaks said:

15 hours ago, DeeDee said:

How Beautiful...Thank you for the post!

 

@DeeDee

Thank you ? Jehovah Bless Us All! 

He never fails to give us hope and his promises will never fail!

How Beautiful...Thank you for the post!

 

18 hours ago, Queen Esther said:

It is amazing how Jehovah has used this prohibition and the unjust treatment of our brothers as a catalyst to get people interested in the truth.

It shows a good example of how Jehovah sees things differently than we do:

Something that we see as a BAD thing, Jehovah knows how to "Cause it to Become" something GOOD!...YAY JEHOVAH!!!

16 minutes ago, Anna said:

Ok, but I don't think that really answered my question. Just because someone says they will tell you what the Bible REALLY says doesn't guarantee they are telling you the truth does it. 

I had received regular "informal" return visits with two sisters a few years before seeing the book and had been given a JW Bible. Also, I always respected the way JW's knew and used the Bible so thoroughly. And, as I said earlier, I KNEW that the TRUTH would be found IN the Bible [because I had ALWAYS believed that the Bible was truly God's Word and not man's.] So, when I saw that the JW's actually had a book that taught what the Bible REALLY teaches, I started to study. As I started learning what the Bible REALLY says, I quickly learned that "JEHOVAH" truly was God's name! That proved to me that the JW's MUST truly have the truth.

23 minutes ago, Anna said:

So what convinced you it was the Truth?

I had been devoted to God since a child, but as a Roman Catholic. I was planning on becoming a Catholic Nun. In high school I read Matthew, which taught me many interesting things about the future that I was not being taught. Then at 17 I was babysitting...there were JW books and brochures at the home, which I read. At that point I decided that I could NOT become a Nun because what I read was so VERY different than anything taught by the Church. I began searching to find the truth. I knew it would be in the Bible, so I used to search for early copies to learn what was REALLY God's message. It became impossible to find the truth. When the brother came to the door, and I saw that the JW's had a book that REALLY taught the Bible, I KNEW that I had FINALLY found the TRUTH!!!

Anna's post: So what was the KEY that finally helped you to find the Truth?

A brother came to my door and showed me the book "What does the Bible REALLY Teach?" I said to him: "That is what I have ALWAYS wanted to know!!!" I started a Bible Study immediately and have been grateful that Jehovah rescued me from Satan's system ever since!!

P.S. That is why the work that we do is so VERY important...We are helping Jehovah to save the lives of people who love him so very much, but don't know how to find him.

2 minutes ago, Anna said:

1 hour ago, DeeDee said:

Satan had used my love for God and zeal for the truth and turned that zeal into an "idol" to mislead me AWAY from the TRUE God...

If you don't mind me asking, how?

I spent YEARS of my life searching for the truth in other religions.

Anna's post: I think what you mean is that we should not allow head knowledge to override our emotional attachment to Jehovah? [sorry, the system would not let me copy it when doing an edit]

Yes, that would be a good way to express it. While we have love of the knowledge, we wouldn't want that love to be greater than our love for Jehovah and doing his will.

On ‎1‎/‎2‎/‎2018 at 8:06 AM, TrueTomHarley said:

it is time to make peace with Israeli.

I agree...

21 minutes ago, Anna said:

6 hours ago, DeeDee said:

 

Obviously, No…but we must be sure that we do not make the Bible an “idol” or love it more than loving Jehovah and wanting to please Jehovah by doing his will.

I agree with a lot of your sentiments, but I find this statement of yours really strange.

If we are not careful, our deep love for knowledge and the truth can become more important to us than our love for Jehovah and doing his will. Instead of using that zeal to do his will, we can misplace that zeal...Whatever item we have misplaced zeal for, becomes the "idol." And, as I described in an earlier post, Satan is VERY sneaky and can use a GOOD thing (God's WORD, for example) as a snare to distract us from doing Jehovah's will. Obviously, we must love, study and meditate on Jehovah's word to grow closer to him. I was only cautioning that Satan is VERY sneaky...We have to make sure that our love and zeal does not get misplaced.

I am speaking from a personal experience from BEFORE I learned the truth...

Satan had used my love for God and zeal for the truth and turned that zeal into an "idol" to mislead me AWAY from the TRUE God...

I was only expressing the need for ALL of us who love Jehovah to be cautious of Satan's distractions and of being distracted AWAY from Jehovah and DOING his will.

My Bible Student once made a beautiful observation....

She said: From Jehovah's viewpoint, a Rainbow looks like a SMILE!

This website did not submit my reply. It somehow signed me out while I was typing it in. This is the second time that this website has done this, but I don't know who to advise.

So this is a copy of my reply:

Hi Israeli,

 

5 hours ago, Israeli Bar Avaddhon said:

However, I invite you to reflect that you have not read the article I posted to you (the one titled "Death really cancels sin").

 

Note: I have not had the time (and I doubt that I WILL have the time) to read your ENTIRE article, so I could not make any comments. My free time is limited. I happen to have some time this morning so I am replying fully to you now. Normally, I do not have the time to reply fully this way.

 

8 hours ago, DeeDee said:

You remind me of me when I was young…

 

I did not say that YOU are “young” or “inexperienced.” By the things you have written, you obviously have been delving into God’s Word for years.

 

8 hours ago, DeeDee said:

My deep desire to learn the truth made me fall dangerously into one of Satan’s snares.

He used my desire to learn the truth to take me away from God, before I ever got to know Jehovah.

 

 

I was only stating that when “I” was young, Satan managed to misuse that sincere desire to know the truth. He used it as a snare that nearly cost “ME” everlasting life.

 

5 hours ago, Israeli Bar Avaddhon said:

But I would like to ask you a question: where do we learn about the personality of God?
Through what we learn to know God better?
Through what do we learn about God's way of thinking and acting?

We learn all this through the Bible, it's true?

 

 Yes, through God’s Word – the Bible.

 

5 hours ago, Israeli Bar Avaddhon said:

Can we honestly say that we love God if we do not love His Word?

 

Obviously, No…but we must be sure that we do not make the Bible an “idol” or love it more than loving Jehovah and wanting to please Jehovah by doing his will.

 

5 hours ago, Israeli Bar Avaddhon said:

We must also make an honest critique and ask ourselves if we ourselves, ourselves, have not become the victim of a tradition or of prejudice

 

 We must also ask ourselves if we are DOING Jehovah’s will or Satan’s will.

 

5 hours ago, Israeli Bar Avaddhon said:

If I relied on my intelligence, then I would not consult the Bible.

 

 True…Yes, you deeply search God’s Word.

 

5 hours ago, Israeli Bar Avaddhon said:

I have full confidence in Jehovah.

 

I am sure that you do…

But, do you have “full TRUST in Jehovah?”

Do you not TRUST that if Jehovah wants us to know a truth, that he WILL make that truth known to all of us?

 

5 hours ago, Israeli Bar Avaddhon said:

I would have been happy that you had answered the question: "When Paul says that we are dead with Christ, does he mean it literally? Or when he says that "we were buried with Christ "does he mean it literally?"

 

Obviously, not literally.

 

5 hours ago, Israeli Bar Avaddhon said:

Or I would have liked you to have answered the question: "Is it the death that erases the sins or the sacrifice of Christ?"

 

Obviously, the sacrifice of Christ.

 

5 hours ago, Israeli Bar Avaddhon said:

Do you know why this happened?

 

Obviously, because of Jehovah’s great love for us.

 

5 hours ago, Israeli Bar Avaddhon said:

is it possible (only possible) that you focused on the fact that I was "under 35" and so I needed advice?

 

 No, because I do not know HOW OLD you are. I just know from my own personal experiences (MANY) just how devious and sneaky Satan is. And how he delights in stealing away very faithful followers of Jehovah of any age, especially young people. Since you are obviously a faithful follower, I was only warning you how dangerous Satan is. He is incredibly tricky!

 

5 hours ago, Israeli Bar Avaddhon said:

Are you really willing to do it anyway?

Or the fear of discovering that something that has been taught to us is wrong prevents us from getting closer to the Word of God (and therefore to God)?

 

My LACK of “fear of discovering that something that has been taught to us is wrong” is how I became easy prey to Satan. Yes, I am willing to learn the truth, but I also TRUST that Jehovah WILL provide any information that we truly need to do

his will, so I devote time to teaching others what they need to know to come to the truth. (see my post of December 1, 2017 https://www.theworldnewsmedia.org/topic/50543-can-anyone-explain-this-to-me-the-rest-of-the-dead-did-not-come-to-life-until-the-1000-years-were-ended/)

 

5 hours ago, Israeli Bar Avaddhon said:

is it possible (only possible) that we love our tranquility more?

 

Sadly, having been tricked by Satan brought NO tranquility whatsoever! Yes, we should keep attentive to Jehovah’s word.

 

Now that I have answered your questions,

MY QUESTION FOR YOU is:

Should we spend more time on “STUDYING” his Word than we do “EXERCISING” our faith and “DOING” the will of Jehovah?

 

“However, become DOERS of the word and not hearers only,

deceiving yourselves with false reasoning…

the one who peers into the perfect law …and continues in it

has become, not a forgetful hearer, but a DOER of the work;

and he will be happy in what he does.” (James 1:22-25)

 

FULL Scripture for Reference  (James 1:22-25):

²² However, become doers of the word and not hearers only,

deceiving yourselves with false reasoning.

²³ For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer,

this one is like a man looking at his own face in a mirror.

²⁴ For he looks at himself, and he goes away

and immediately forgets what sort of person he is.

²⁵ But the one who peers into the perfect law

that belongs to freedom and continues in it

has become, not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work;

and he will be happy in what he does.

 

I am "happy" to spend much of my time preaching “so that I might by all possible means save some.” (1 Cor. 9:22)

14 hours ago, Israeli Bar Avaddhon said:

I will take these advice to heart but I will continue to talk about the things I have understood because this is true respect for the Word of God.

 

 

On ‎1‎/‎2‎/‎2018 at 5:26 PM, DeeDee said:

P.S. Satan is EXTREMELY SNEAKY and MEAN!!! He uses things that are good and “Light” as snares!

 

Dear Israeli,

You remind me of me when I was young…

My deep desire to learn the truth made me fall dangerously into one of Satan’s snares.

He used my desire to learn the truth to take me away from God, before I ever got to know Jehovah.

Thank God Jehovah gathered me back into his arms.

You have great love for “the WORD” of God.

But remember what Jesus said:

 

     “‘You MUST LOVE JEHOVAH your God

            with your whole heart and with your whole soul

            and with your WHOLE MIND.’

     This is the GREATEST and FIRST commandment. (Matt. 22:37, 38)

 

Trust in Jehovah and do what is good…

     Find exquisite delight IN JEHOVAH,

And he will grant you the desires of your heart. (Psalm 37:3, 4)

 

Trust in Jehovah with all your heart,

     And do not rely on your own understanding.

In all your ways take notice of him,

     And he will make your paths straight.

 Do not become wise in your own eyes… (Prov. 3:5-7)

 

Please…NEVER underestimate just how sneaky and cunning Satan is…

He truly is “like a roaring lion, seeking to devour someone.” (1 Pet. 5:8)

…especially someone who love’s Jehovah and the truth as much as you do.

 

17 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

You did not respond to any inquiries about your ministry.

Yes, Israeli, I will not respond until later as I have things to do now.

What context do you mean?

 

12 minutes ago, Israeli Bar Avaddhon said:

Does death really erase sins?
The point is exactly this.
Will the dead be judged by what they "do" (future) or what they will do when they were alive?

God's word says "the one who has died has been acquitted from his sin." (Romans 6:7)

20 minutes ago, John Houston said:

Now how if in you scenario, after Satan is destroyed, dead ones are raised, not being educated from the scrolls, not worshipping shoulder to shoulder, using the pure language of obedience to Jehovah's sovereignty?

John, Excellent point!

 

On ‎12‎/‎31‎/‎2017 at 5:34 AM, Israeli Bar Avaddhon said:

it is not "four people" who decide whether it is written in chronological order or not but the context.

  

Thank you for explaining your thoughts. Now I understand your point. Your thought that Revelation is in chronological order might be right, or it might not be right… After all, “He… Gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to those with discernment. He reveals the deep things and the hidden things…” (Daniel 2:21, 22) Daniel had been given knowledge of things that only he was made privy to. Perhaps due to your diligent study of Jehovah’s word, Jehovah has also done this in your situation.

 

Our unified understanding of Scripture has changed in the past. And it will continue to change so long as scriptural light grows brighter “until full daylight” (Proverbs 4:18). Only Jehovah knows for sure what order he means in Revelation. Whenever he wills that we ALL understand something he makes that understanding known to the F&DS, who then provides that food “at the proper time” to ALL of us (Matthew 24:45; Psalm 145:15).

 

Fortunately, whether or not Revelation is in chronological order has absolutely no effect on the Bible’s wonderful message to mankind. To be considered worthy to partake in that wonderful future that Jehovah promises us in that message, it is important that we continue to obey Jehovah and do his will. Since his will is that NO PERSON will be destroyed and ALL will attain to repentance, we need to do whatever is in our power to help others to come to know Jehovah’s love for them and to come to love him, as well (2 Peter 3:9; John 3:16).

 

When we love Jehovah, we never want to go against his will. That is why we never want to be the cause of “stumbling” to ANY person (Romans 4:13; 14:20; 16:17; 1 Corinthians 1:22, 23; 8:9; 10:31-33; 2 Corinthians 6:3; Philippians 1:9, 10; 1 John 2:9-11). Surely your diligent study and devotion to Jehovah’s word is bringing a large smile to Jehovah! May you keep yourself “in God’s Love”(Jude 21).

 

P.S. Note that the Scripture (Matthew 24:45) only promises that "FOOD" will be provided at the "PROPER TIME"...It does not claim that the food (knowledge) itself is "PERFECT" and "UNCHANGEABLE." There is every possibility that Jehovah will decide that there is a time in the FUTURE that will be the "PROPER TIME" for us ALL to understand something differently than we do at the PRESENT TIME.

 

I do not understand some things that you are stating in you statement below...

I "have" not "established" whether OR NOT Revelation is "written in chronological order"...that is for Jehovah to know.

And what seems "logical" from Jehovah's point of view could seem completely "illogical" from man's point of view.

What confusion are you speaking about?

33 minutes ago, Israeli Bar Avaddhon said:

That Revelation is not written in chronological order, you have established it. Jehovah did not establish it. I understand that it is easy to get confused.

 

On ‎12‎/‎29‎/‎2017 at 3:48 AM, Israeli Bar Avaddhon said:

Obviously someone will say that Revelation "is not written in chronological order" but this is not logical.

P.S. Maybe "this is not logical" to man...But no one can know "what is logical" to Jehovah.

 

14 hours ago, DeeDee said:

¹⁴ But a physical  ["logical?"] man

Dear Israeli Bar Avaddhon,

You are right about who judges, so you can rest assured that I was not speaking in judgment of you. You are obviously deeply using the magnificent gift that Jehovah has given us (the brain). It is one of my favorite gifts to use, as well. My only points were these:

• Jehovah’s thoughts and reasonings may not seem “logical” to any human, not specifically to you, yourself.

• You are trying to fit Jehovah’s thoughts into some “logical” timeframe.

• Jehovah has placed the knowledge of “the times…in his own jurisdiction,” so it is not for us “to know the times.”

 

Isa. 55:8, 9

 ⁸ “For my thoughts are not your thoughts,

And your ways are not my ways,” declares Jehovah.

 ⁹ “For as the heavens are higher than the earth,

So my ways are higher than your ways

And my thoughts [are higher] than your thoughts.

 

Acts 6, 7

⁶ So when they had assembled, they asked him:

“Lord, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?”

⁷ He said to them:

“It does not belong to you to know the times or seasons

that the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction.

 

As you will see from the Scriptures below, there will be no “try[ing] to refute the arguments.”

 

Prov. 20:3

It is honorable for a man to refrain from a dispute…

 

Eccl. 6:11

The more words, the more futility;

and what advantage do they bring to man?

¹⁴ But a physical  ["logical?"] man

does not accept the things of the spirit of God,

for they are foolishness to him;

and he cannot get to know them,

because they are examined spiritually.

 

¹⁵ However, the spiritual man examines all things,

but he himself is not examined by any man.

 

¹⁶ For “who has come to know the mind of Jehovah,

so that he may instruct him?”

But we do have the mind of Christ.

 

– 1 Corinthians 2:14-16

I also did not understand Rev. 20:5, so I posted the question: Can anyone explain this to me?: The rest of the dead did not come to life UNTIL the 1,000 years were ENDED.

I received a reply explaining that Scripture. By "come to life" it is talking about the "REAL" life, after the final test at the end of the 1,000 years: Hello, DeeDee, think about what this verse is speaking about. It is not as hard as one think. Who partake of the 'first' resurrection? Those of the heavenly hope, and when they are given life, they are immortal, death has no hold there is no last test for them, correct? But those brought back to life during the reign of Christ, what happens when Satan is let loosed upon the earth? We all must past this final test, because if any fail they will end up where? So after this test death will be no more, all who pass has nothing but life in front of them, no testing of where their sovereignty lies, they have proved it. So the writer could put this what he saw in the future in those very words. Everyone else, the dead, would not come to life without death, until the 1000 yrs had ended.

Thank you, John! That's what I thought it MUST mean... I was just concerned that if I use this scripture in teaching my Bible Student, that they would only see it for what it actually says. Yes, the REAL life won't be experienced until after we prove our loyalty and get through that final test! Thanks, again!