Patiently waiting for Truth

Even more encouragement!! No, threats. They only allow a person to become inactive when it suits their own purpose. For example, when I told them I was leaving and gave them the reason, they said i could just quietly go inactive. The obvious reason they said that was, if i remained in the Org they still had control over what i could say to others, because the thread of D/fed would be there. They wanted me quiet but controlled. But normally congregants are told to do more hours, put in more effort, make more time for the ministry. and those that do not are given warnings and shunned. Yes I've seen it happen to some that I was close to way back then.

Sounds doubtful. Almost as if it needs to be true just to make that particular interpretation work. Worse than eisegesis. Perhaps @Witness needs to go careful ? She may find herself at the end of Billy the Kids rope as i did. We have to be careful what we say about the GB don't we ?

If you don't report you become an inactive publisher and you get a talking to. Been there done that. And on top of that the number of JWs is counted by the number of reports / active publishers. Now this should be a new topic

NNWT Act 20 : 20 while I did not hold back from telling you any of the things that were profitable* nor from teaching you publiclyp and from house to house So, Yet another misinterpretation / misuse of scripture by your Governing Body, as a means to control it's congregation and distribute it's propaganda... And on top of that they demand a report of the hours you spend going from house to house.

Love it !. What you seem to be saying possibly (and yes i have to be careful what i attribute to you) is that some of the rules and some of the practices handed down by the Governing Body, are in fact totally unecessary and 'wrong'. A certain Elder i know is the literiture servant in a big multinational town near London. He covers all the literiture for three congregations that use the same Kingdom hall. This Elder is 80 years old, of poor health, and is deteriorating mentally. He tells me that none of the younger men in the congregation are interested in taking on the responsibility. And as you say 'old magizines' are a big problem. Brothers and sisters acutually take mags' from years ago back to the hall and just pile them up and leave them there. This same Elder actually 'dresses down' to go into the ministry. No suit, shirt sleves in the summer. Here in Devon England we were allowed to go into the ministry, in the countryside, in an open neck shirt and smart trousers. Devon being farming country people seem more ready to talk to a person dressed more 'normally', not 'poshed up'. At that time I actually believed the things I was told to tell others, so the ministry was very enjoyable.

In times of serious importance, then Yes. But nothing that important goes on here. In my opinion most people here do have a few things thing in common. We all want God's Kingdom to be firmly established in Heaven and on Earth. We all want God through Yeshua / Jesus to rule over mankind. We all want peace on Earth. We just have different views as to how those things will be accomplished.

I don't tend to dig deep into such things but are you saying that Muslims in China are being treated as bad as JWs in Russia ?

I never did hear from any of them

There seems to be a couple of points being brought out here. 1. That from the time Rutherford took over, the doctrine became that the Organisation is the New Ark. From this it seemed to evolve into "You have to be a baptised JW to be saved". Baptised into that 'new ark' 2. @Anna and possibly others, 'not happy with' the doctrine of 'always obey the GB's instructions through the Watchtower or Elders'. Obey without question. Which evolved into the GB saying that "God and Jesus trust the GB so therefore every JW must trust (and obey) the GB". There was a third point concerning Armageddon and the yeat 2000, which @JW Insider didn't answer, but no matter. Only point one seems relevant to topic and I thought JWI was going to move all other comments to a different topic, but i suoopse the other points have been discussed a million times before. WP makes some good points and seems sincere in his comments. Such a shame he is so aggresive with it all . Peace and Christian love to all.

BUT, your GB state that 'God and Jesus trust the GB so all JWs must trust the GB' So isn't that a contradiction ? Would God want the GB to say those words above, and then the GB give false inforamtion ? You JWs do not think it all through do you.

If this is the case then it would prove that your leaders have learnt nothing.

Are you admitting here that the Watchtower / GB / JW org stated that Armageddon would happen by the year 2000 ? A simple yes or no, please.

Maybe some folks want to know the foundation that the JW Org is built on. Rock or sand ?

And you wonder why some are now onthe outside ?

WONDERFUL WORDS but when I say anything similar or if @Witness, or @Srecko Sostarsays so, then we get shot down for it.

I haven't seen that On Friday 6pm -10pm UK time I was in A&E and haven't been on here much since. I really don't think I've seen that one ..... WP = BTK I'm laughing at this one.

And there you have it in context. My point has been proven I DID NOT THREATEN ANYONE. The context being "If God can send an angel to wipe out thousands of soldiers overnight, therefore............. As for any flagging or warning, I didn't see any or was not aware of what i should look for, BUT my account was deleted so in fact i couldn't see anything. Billy The Kid was allowed to take ONE SENTANCE out of context, to use for his advantage, to remove me and to pretend I was making a threat, and because of that -------- I ws banned without question. This proves to me that the 'boss' here is an Elder or higher rank JW.

Well I would change my name back to my real name if it was allowed, and I still have no idea who banned me or why. Being banned without even one warning does give a person a good reason to come back with a false name, and in my case I was not allowed to return using my real name. If the forum boss had contacted me before banning me maybe the situation could have been sorted out. Billy the Kid on here pretending that I was threatening the GB then total ban, no warning. The Boss Elders (or higher ranks) run their forum as they see fit, which is fair enough. And other 'admin types' here, it seems, can alter people's comments, move comments, remove comments, so who is to know what is genuine or not.

Ya know guys, trying to read all this rubbish is more painful than the 4 hours I've just spent in A&E. I've been told to take the meds and just rest, so I came on here. But this is all so, well, pathetic. I hope you are all well .

He is many different people, don't you already know that ?

Next subject the Twin Towers

Yeh it was a good film studio Almost convicing Things like it have been done on film a hundred times.

The pretend moon landing was an experiment into examining the intelligence of the American population.

Surely you know he writes 99% rubbish here. A tiny bit of it is humour but not much That's not an insult Pudgy it's the truth.

Nothin' spiritual here then. I was thinkin' of startin' a new topic but they all end up like this one has . Oh well, back to Facebook then. At leat that has some sensible content and will accept two way conversation in a polite manner. (We know SM doesn't like FB but does he like this rubbish on here ?) Hope you are ALL safe and well and well fed.