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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Arauna in Bible Prophecy and 2034. Will you gain spiritual discernment to become a Survivor of the Last Days?   
    I was going to make a topic on this subject, mainly on the bit I've highlighted in red.
    BUT unfortunately I find myself with a warning from @The Librarian for what i don't know ecactly, so I'd better just keep a low profile for a while  
    I dare not comment on the bit I've put in bold. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from JW Insider in Bible Prophecy and 2034. Will you gain spiritual discernment to become a Survivor of the Last Days?   
    I find your comments on this subject to be the most uplifting, and have certainly given me food for thought. Thank you. 
    I think others are 'digging too deep' and losing the real meaning behind it all, as you have said. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Arauna in Bible Prophecy and 2034. Will you gain spiritual discernment to become a Survivor of the Last Days?   
    You start your week on a Monday ?  The week has always started on a Sunday and ended on a Saturday. 
    Saturday was always the Sabbath, even though we do not keep it now. 
    Or am i just 'old school' ? 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Arauna in Bible Prophecy and 2034. Will you gain spiritual discernment to become a Survivor of the Last Days?   
    My discernment is that Jesus had not need for any purification or any added symbolism regarding his death - the "sign" of Jonah was a "sign" not an exact replication - Jesus was not in a fish for three days.  We do not want the superstition of the Jews who find numerology in almost anything to overwhelm us.  We then lose the purpose of the illustration/sign and meaning of his death.
    All the symbolism about the death of Jesus is found in Hebrews. How he replaced the Passover lamb, being High priest of the new covenant; his flesh died and was disposed of by Jehovah (curtain of the Most holy) tore,  and so forth.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Arauna in Bible Prophecy and 2034. Will you gain spiritual discernment to become a Survivor of the Last Days?   
    Yes -  I do see the pattern of the purification and cleansing of the number 40.  It rained 40 days and nights to clean the earth during the flood ... and there are many other examples. ......BUT..... Jesus was perfect - he needed no cleansing or purification. .
    1 peter 2: 22 " 22  He committed no sin,o nor was deception found in his mouth."
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Arauna in Bible Prophecy and 2034. Will you gain spiritual discernment to become a Survivor of the Last Days?   
    A royal three course meal - fish, then Passover lamb, dessert and coffee
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Arauna in Bible Prophecy and 2034. Will you gain spiritual discernment to become a Survivor of the Last Days?   
    Nowhere does it say it is exactly 72 hours.  It would have been more accurate to say 72 hours if God meant exactly 72 hours.  So they could have thrown him onto the sea very late late night of first day  (which fits in with Jewish day which starts at sundown), and shortly after the third night when daylight came - spewed him on dry land.....  did not think this through but just an idea.  
    Jesus also spoke of the SIGN of Jonah.  A sign is not literal but an indication of something.  So we do not expect literal 3 days and nights but FOCUS on the SIGN..... just as the budding of the first flowers on trees is a sign that spring is arriving.  
    The focus of all of this is the sign and the fact that Jesus died.  The other additional things are the side events.
     
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Pudgy in Bible Prophecy and 2034. Will you gain spiritual discernment to become a Survivor of the Last Days?   
    I am sure there is a correct answer, but does it really matter? What I have been trying to convey with my quasi-satirical comments is that in my opinion it doesn’t really matter, and when you try to conflate several things that won’t fit, and can’t fit, wanting to make them fit, and seeing that they might fit, and then it would be fitting if they did fit or they fit or not, it’s enough to give you a fit.
    ….. meanwhile, it’s all a distraction to keep one from and the important things like  justice and truth and righteousness, and fairness and equity in the brotherhood…… And making sure that orphans and the disadvantaged have food in the refrigerator and clothes on their backs,And have sound guidance and a warm place to sleep.
    I know too well how easy it is to get distracted by irrelevant things, and lose sight of important things. Been there, done that.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to JW Insider in Bible Prophecy and 2034. Will you gain spiritual discernment to become a Survivor of the Last Days?   
    No. Because the night on the third day would not have been completed before dawn of that second day.
    If someone dies on Friday afternoon and they are buried that Friday night, then the night of the first day is completed on Saturday. The night of the second day is therefore begun on the next night, Saturday night, and completed on the dawn of that second day which is Sunday morning. The night of the third day, would have been completed, therefore on Monday morning.
    This is true even in our current conception of when a day begins, but would have been even clearer with the Jewish conception of when a day began, because their day started with nightfall.
    You can begin the start of his judgment then if you wish, but the sign of Jonah was that he was in "Sheol" for three days and three nights. Christians saw no need to take this to any kind of literal count of hours. The very fact that it could apply when Jesus may have been in Sheol for only two nights is good evidence that there was no good reason to try to count the exact hours to make something spiritually significant out of them.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Pudgy in Understanding the Sign of the Son of Man...   
    ( ….. biting satire alert for previous post …. Woogah! Woogah! …. )
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to BroRando in Bible Prophecy and 2034. Will you gain spiritual discernment to become a Survivor of the Last Days?   
    When you learn Modern English someday, maybe I'll teach you the A,B.C's. Then again, maybe not in view of what JESUS said. Another part of the Sign of the Son of Man...You. 
     41  The Son of man will send his angels, and they will collect out from his Kingdom all things that cause stumbling and people who practice lawlessness, 42  and they will pitch them into the fiery furnace.h There is where their weeping and the gnashing of their teeth will be. 43  At that time the righteous ones will shine as brightly as the suni in the Kingdom of their Father. Let the one who has ears listen.
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Pudgy in Bible Prophecy and 2034. Will you gain spiritual discernment to become a Survivor of the Last Days?   
    See…. It did not subtract from your scholarly reply at all!
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Arauna in Bible Prophecy and 2034. Will you gain spiritual discernment to become a Survivor of the Last Days?   
    I guess you only speak one language.... because if you have learnt any other you will know that sounds are different in different languages.  A  J  in some languages are pronounced as "Y" in other.   In my own language (Afrikaans) a J is pronounced the same as a Y   in Albanian....... (where I live now).
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Peter Carroll in Bible Prophecy and 2034. Will you gain spiritual discernment to become a Survivor of the Last Days?   
    " the poster witness is one twisted individual ,what a lot of crap " The words of a long serving JW.  
    No wonder the JW Org is so bad. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from BroRando in Bible Prophecy and 2034. Will you gain spiritual discernment to become a Survivor of the Last Days?   
    What a pathetic and stupid comment. We all know that the name you use did not exist when the Scriptures were written. 
    YHWH. YHWH YHWH.  There you have it. That is the four letters from the original scriptures. 
    PC you have let yourself down here  
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Chioke Lin in Bible Prophecy and 2034. Will you gain spiritual discernment to become a Survivor of the Last Days?   
    " the poster witness is one twisted individual ,what a lot of crap " The words of a long serving JW.  
    No wonder the JW Org is so bad. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Witness in Bible Prophecy and 2034. Will you gain spiritual discernment to become a Survivor of the Last Days?   
    Are you frightened to give the TRUE reason that YHWH will cut the time short ? 
    Matthew 24:22
    Berean Literal Bible
    And unless those days had been shortened, no flesh would have been saved; but because of the elect, those days will be shortened.
    God will shorten the time for the sake of the Chosen ones.  But JWs just do not like it that the Chosen as so much more important than the earthly ones. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth reacted to Arauna in Bible Prophecy and 2034. Will you gain spiritual discernment to become a Survivor of the Last Days?   
    Sexist again - .....keep sitting on your brain and hands.... 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Peter Carroll in Bible Prophecy and 2034. Will you gain spiritual discernment to become a Survivor of the Last Days?   
    Yet again a pretend servant of God is full of insults. A woman that moans about others being rude or insulting. 
    It is as Yeshua said. It is what comes out of the mouth, or in this case the written word, that defiles a person. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Peter Carroll in Bible Prophecy and 2034. Will you gain spiritual discernment to become a Survivor of the Last Days?   
    Multi-national but all american GB  . 
    It's me that has been saying for a looong time, that the True Anointed would be from different parts of the Earth. 
    Your org is not multi national in the true sense. It is american run, american dictated. Hence it has no love, no mercy, and does not care about the collateral damage. Satan uses the american way to protect your immoral Org. This can be seen by the ARC, Charity Commision, IICSA, Reclaimed Voices, and others that have brought the CSA in the JW org out into the light. Whereas the amercian way allows your GB and their lawyers to continue to hide Pedophiles in the american part of the Org and to continue to hide that 25 + year database. 
    To think that in Australia, Netherlands, UK the truth has been revealed. BUT in America the GB continue to build their castles and hide the truth. And you people still worship them. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Pudgy in Bible Prophecy and 2034. Will you gain spiritual discernment to become a Survivor of the Last Days?   
    Yet again a pretend servant of God is full of insults. A woman that moans about others being rude or insulting. 
    It is as Yeshua said. It is what comes out of the mouth, or in this case the written word, that defiles a person. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from Pudgy in Bible Prophecy and 2034. Will you gain spiritual discernment to become a Survivor of the Last Days?   
    Multi-national but all american GB  . 
    It's me that has been saying for a looong time, that the True Anointed would be from different parts of the Earth. 
    Your org is not multi national in the true sense. It is american run, american dictated. Hence it has no love, no mercy, and does not care about the collateral damage. Satan uses the american way to protect your immoral Org. This can be seen by the ARC, Charity Commision, IICSA, Reclaimed Voices, and others that have brought the CSA in the JW org out into the light. Whereas the amercian way allows your GB and their lawyers to continue to hide Pedophiles in the american part of the Org and to continue to hide that 25 + year database. 
    To think that in Australia, Netherlands, UK the truth has been revealed. BUT in America the GB continue to build their castles and hide the truth. And you people still worship them. 
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    Patiently waiting for Truth got a reaction from BroRando in Bible Prophecy and 2034. Will you gain spiritual discernment to become a Survivor of the Last Days?   
    Multi-national but all american GB  . 
    It's me that has been saying for a looong time, that the True Anointed would be from different parts of the Earth. 
    Your org is not multi national in the true sense. It is american run, american dictated. Hence it has no love, no mercy, and does not care about the collateral damage. Satan uses the american way to protect your immoral Org. This can be seen by the ARC, Charity Commision, IICSA, Reclaimed Voices, and others that have brought the CSA in the JW org out into the light. Whereas the amercian way allows your GB and their lawyers to continue to hide Pedophiles in the american part of the Org and to continue to hide that 25 + year database. 
    To think that in Australia, Netherlands, UK the truth has been revealed. BUT in America the GB continue to build their castles and hide the truth. And you people still worship them. 
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