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    Kick_Faceinator reacted to Dmitar in It's called, "You have a right to know"   
    Like a former member that lost their way, just like a tax collector or Pagan without repentance. You seem to forget, Paul was a tax collector. Yet, he repented. Now, use the apostate definition to reflect on the individual's action and behavior. Don't just focus on the word.
    NIV Galatians 3:19
    [Because of transgressions] On account of transgressions, or with reference to them. The meaning is, that the Law was given to show the true nature of transgressions, or to show what was sin. It was not to reveal a way of justification, but it was to disclose the true nature of sin; to deter people from committing it; to declare its penalty; to convince people of it, and thus to be "ancillary" to, and preparatory to the work of redemption through the Redeemer. This is the true account of the Law of God as given to apostate man, and this use of the Law still exists. This effect of the Law is accomplished:
     
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    Kick_Faceinator reacted to Srecko Sostar in It's called, "You have a right to know"   
    No mention of "apostates" here. 
    How you treat pagan or tax collector?
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    Kick_Faceinator reacted to Dmitar in It's called, "You have a right to know"   
    When you recite scripture, whose words are you using? I really like to know.
    Why do you, and why do you quote from it? Does this mean you're a "Pearlite" every time you quote her? If she misuses scripture, then what are you people worshiping and serving if not your own self-interest?
    Christians you're not, that's clear enough with your behavior, what's left? Mormon, Buddhist, Hindu, Islam, Magic?
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    Kick_Faceinator reacted to Witness in It's called, "You have a right to know"   
    Prove to me that I actually said that.
    I’m not part of an institution, an earthly organization, or a corporation.  You are too use to the ways of the Watchtower.  I follow the scriptures, not “bylaws” created by men. 
    A once JW, I don’t know who, wrote this years ago about your institution and its policies:
     
    The Watchtower Society is clearly an organizational IDOL. Anyone who has been a JW for even a short length of time should have no problem discerning this as we are continually commanded to:
    1. Reject ALL information pertaining to the bible and its interpretation if it does not come from the "spirit-anointed organization" exclusively
    2. Reject ALL persons that do not fully agree with and adhere to all the "spirit-anointed organization's" doctrines, policies and procedures.
    3. Reject/dismiss ALL our inner doubts/concerns and even our God-given conscience when these bring into question any of the teachings of the "spirit-anointed organization".
    Further, just as in the case of King Nebuchadnezzar and the three Hebrews, bowing down to this imposing, shiny image-- the "spirit-anointed organization"--is required by all who do not wish to be thrown into the Governing Body's fiery furnace by their attendants --the elders and others in the congregation! Those that refuse to bow down to, or worship (i.e., loyally obey) this image/idol/god are either marked, shunned or disfellowshipped and also told that they are rejecting Jah; spearing His slave; mentally diseased; awaiting death at Armageddon, etc. (I was marked and shunned [an old WT teaching that's still practiced by some] though never disfellowshipped.)
    Any who may be shaking their heads in disbelief can prove this to themselves by simply commenting at their meeting that the "faithful and discreet slave" as mentioned in Matthew and Luke has not been appointed by Jesus yet (this is an accurate statement scripturally [Luke 12:39-46], but not organizationally). It may take more than one attempt before the elders and others decide to act, but they will without fail nonetheless. (Try it –I dare you! Lol)

    Anyone with even a negligible amount of bible knowledge should be able to see that these man-made commandments and policies in themselves directly violate Jah's command to "have no other gods/images against my face...nor be induced to serve them" (Exodus 20:3-5). Contrary to the frequent admonition by the Gov. Body to resist "independent thinking", God's word also tells us to use the thinking ability He gave us to distinguish false prophets from true (Matthew 7:15; 24:23-25; 1 John 4:1) by appraising or scrutinizing them and their teachings (1 Corinthians 4:1; Acts 17:11; Romans 3:4); to not put our trust in earthling man (Psalm 146:3,4); and to obey Him (Jah) as ruler rather than men in ALL things and at ALL times, regardless of how insignificant it may seem (Acts 5:29; Luke 16:10). Most JW's can recite many of these verses in their sleep; yet they unwittingly disobey them by blindly and hypocritically clinging to the unscriptural teachings of their own religious leaders (the men of the Governing Body)while at the same time zealously exhorting others to do just the opposite (Romans 2:21-24; 12:9; Matt 15:8). This interesting dichotomy is clearly due to highly-effective cognitive programming by the GB, not God's word which tells us that Jah is NOT partial (Acts 10:34a).

    I will never forget one particular meeting where a well-respected elder of many years made the comment to all in the congregation that "whatever comes out of the mouth of the Governing Body should be considered as coming out of the mouth of Jehovah." That in a nut-shell truly sums it up, leaving no doubt as to the real identity of the so-called "spirit-anointed organization". These men are not inspired by God and even admit to this yet put themselves on equal footing with Him (2 Thessalonians 2:4), even going so far as to enforce exclusive devotion to their so called “spirit-anointed organization”.

    Why JW’s even possess bibles is beyond me; they are of no real use to them anymore than they are to the Mormons. As one individual stated recently, JW’s should change their official name to “Watchtowerites” as this would accurately describe who they really worship/serve.
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    Kick_Faceinator reacted to Srecko Sostar in It's called, "You have a right to know"   
    This is an interesting view.
    When JWs go preaching to other people, we can say that these other people are members of religions that, according to WTJWorg, are called "Babylon the Great", and thus not only fell away from true worship and became apostates, but were doomed to destruction because of their affiliation to "Babylon," right?
    Yet, JWs discuss “spiritual truths” with them and argue to convince them of their “truth”. Interesting absurd in light of your question and claim?
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    Kick_Faceinator reacted to Dmitar in It's called, "You have a right to know"   
    I don't need to prove your insinuation. However, go back to 2017.
    You want to tell visitors here you're a lone wolf even though you follow a fake anointed Pearl Doxsey"? Clearly, more lies coming from one that professes to be Christian. 
    The Watchtower bylaws are reflective of its constitution, the Bible. Therefore, you have a problem with what was started by one man, then later commissioned to many men.
    Do you ever get tired of copy/paste from Pearl's meaningless website? However, 1-3 sure looks like "bylaws" to me. Care to change your position, before I outright call you a liar again?
     
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    Kick_Faceinator got a reaction from Witness in What's going on in Ukraine 🇺🇦???   
    You’re pretty uneducated, the “Jehovahs Witness brotherhood” believe every sign Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24 is literal. 
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    Kick_Faceinator got a reaction from Dmitar in What's going on in Ukraine 🇺🇦???   
    You’re pretty uneducated, the “Jehovahs Witness brotherhood” believe every sign Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24 is literal. 
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    Kick_Faceinator got a reaction from Pudgy in What's going on in Ukraine 🇺🇦???   
    You’re pretty uneducated, the “Jehovahs Witness brotherhood” believe every sign Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24 is literal. 
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    Kick_Faceinator reacted to Pudgy in What's going on in Ukraine 🇺🇦???   
    In my opinion, I think the most notorious and despicable example of those who might be identified as the King Of The North (KON)are the infamous red suits. I understand they have a secret fortress somewhere in northern Canada where  tens of  thousands of  slaves with pointed ears (possibly Chinese), toil Without pay for an autocratic leader that crosses all international borders directing havoc with the disciplining and instruction of children.
    and of course, I’m indentifying this King Of The North (KON) as a agent of German manufacture, “Papa” Noel, otherwise known as Santa Claus.
    You may be naysayer to this new light, presented to you today, but I assure you with all earnestness that MY ALLEGED screwball inspiration has the exact same factual basis as YOUR ALLEGED screwball inspiration.
    Where do you think the Chinese get all those toys and Ronco Bass-a-Matics?
    WalMart?
     
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    Kick_Faceinator reacted to Witness in What's going on in Ukraine 🇺🇦???   
    Do JWs feel they have not been deceived when they believe the exact line of reasoning as the majority who apply the Bible’s signs as literal evidence of the coming Kingdom? Of course they don’t believe they have been deceived.   Yet, all Christian religions have their “king of the north/south”, as nations in the world which Satan has dominion over.  So do JWs.  What then, sets JWs apart from the masses in Christendom?
    Nothing.  Almost all believers see most of the signs in Matt 24, Luke 21 and Mark 13, as LITERAL.   These are Satan’s signs, in his world  – fake, a deterrent, a counterfeit from the real war at hand. They are not the signs of the coming Kingdom of God.
    JWs in Ukraine are not all anointed – a small number compared to the general population of JWs. The organization houses most anointed ones that have remained inside, among all the anointed “saints” who were “taken captive” (Col 2:8) and attacked by "empty philosophy".  It is they, who come against the two Beasts of Revelation – two – a Gog/false prophet and a Magog/Beast/organization - compiled king of the north that crushes, tramples, removes the power of God's priesthood,  and “kills” any who stand up to it. (Dan 11:31,32; Matt 24:15,16; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1-3; 13:1,2,5-7,11,12,15-18; 20:7-9)
     So, how is it possible that the signs are fulfilled by one country at war with another, while JWs are doing their best along with many other Ukrainians to successfully get out of there? Is God only helping JWs get out?  How are the other people escaping?  Who is helping them?  What foolish thinking; especially when a typhoon comes along and kills JWs in their kingdom hall, known to be “God’s house”.   
     “Then the disciples came and said to him, “Why do you speak to them in parables?” 11 And he answered them, “To you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given.” Matt 13:10-11
    It is not a secret or a mystery that the world has suffered for eons down to this day from famines, wars, earthquakes, etc.
    “For to the one who has, more will be given, and he will have an abundance, but from the one who has not, even what he has will be taken away. 13 This is why I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.”  Matt 13:12,13
    Parables are the key that unlock the secrets of the kingdom.
    Matt 13:34 – “All these things Jesus said to the crowds in parables; indeed, he said nothing to them without a parable.”
    JW leaders tend to dismiss parables, as just “stories”.  They invalidate the words of Jesus by saying they are simply “warnings” if the parable doesn’t follow their manmade doctrine.  They change scriptures to read their way, to hide the connection to truth.
    Matt 13:8 NIV – “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be earthquakes in various places, and famines. These are the beginning of birth pains.”
    Birth pains, not “pains of distress” (NWT) that covertly focuses the eye on the world instead of on the “woman” which represents the New Covenant (Gal 4:26) giving “birth” in Rev 12:1,2 -
    "A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2 She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth."
    Because of this, God’s anointed have been deceived, taken captive by empty philosophy. They're not applying these signs to themselves, but to the world as they are taught by false prophets.   The signs of war, famine, earthquakes, etc. during the last days, are parables; their meaning is deeper than what the physical eye witnesses in the world of politics.
    Matt 24:3-5– “As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?” 4 And Jesus answered them, “See that no one leads you astray. 5 For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray.”
    This is said right before the rest of the signs are given.  Who is telling God’s people that the signs are literal?  Those who have led them astray.  Again, the anointed under the New Covenant “woman” (Gal 4:26)  experience the signs in a spiritual way.  They are presently under the authority of false prophets and a false priesthood. (Matt 24:24,25; Rev 13:11,12,18; 2 Thess 2:3,4) This signifies the war at hand, with its outcome leading to the coming of the Kingdom of God, when the last faithful anointed who perceives the signs, is sealed into the Temple of God.  Satan, and the nations with Russia at the fore, can fight indefinitely, but it will not bring about the Kingdom. (Zech 4:7-10; Rev 12:5,17)
    As all of you feast your eyes on what you can apply physically to the fulfillment of God’s word, Jesus said,
     Now having been asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He replied, “The kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed or with a visible display; 1 nor will people say, ‘Look! Here it is!’ or, ‘There it is!’ For the kingdom of God is among you (in the midst of you).  Luke 17:20,21
    Sadly, these words of Jesus Christ most likely will not reach your spiritual ears, or the ears of God’s holy priesthood who have disregarded the signs that apply to them, who are under the New Covenant.  (1 Thess 5:3)
    Indeed, in their case the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled that says:
    “‘“You will indeed hear but never understand,
        and you will indeed see but never perceive.”
    15 For this people's heart has grown dull,
        and with their ears they can barely hear,
        and their eyes they have closed,
    lest they should see with their eyes
        and hear with their ears
    and understand with their heart
        and turn, and I would heal them.’  Matt 13:14,15
    The Sign of the End
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    Kick_Faceinator got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in What's going on in Ukraine 🇺🇦???   
    Death spoken here is spiritual. It’s being thrown out of the synagogues/Kingdom Halls, shunned. We gotta remember, Revelation is symbolic and spoken in signs.
    It about the anointed and their JW’s friends that don’t fear being disfellowshipped while losing their lives in the organization for speaking the truth in their congregations. They loved the truth more than their status, more than keeping their friends or any love of their family in organization (Matthew 10:37; Luke 14:26; Philippians 3:7-9). 
    “They will put you out of the synagogues. Indeed, the hour is coming when whoever kills you will think he is offering service to God.” John 16:2
    “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and put you to death [once you are put the death you will be shunned and hated], and you will be hated by all nations for my name's sake.” Matthew 24:9
    Taking a bullet to the head is the easy way out. If Putin were an enemy that would be great, but he’s just a distraction. Satan knows being called trash for the rest of your life till’ you’re physically dead for speaking the truth to an organization is much, much harsher on the back, he’s a master at this.
    “We appeal gently when evil things are said about us. Yet we are treated like the world’s garbage, like everybody’s trash—right up to the present moment.” 1 Corinthians 4:13
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    Kick_Faceinator got a reaction from Dmitar in What's going on in Ukraine 🇺🇦???   
    Death spoken here is spiritual. It’s being thrown out of the synagogues/Kingdom Halls, shunned. We gotta remember, Revelation is symbolic and spoken in signs.
    It about the anointed and their JW’s friends that don’t fear being disfellowshipped while losing their lives in the organization for speaking the truth in their congregations. They loved the truth more than their status, more than keeping their friends or any love of their family in organization (Matthew 10:37; Luke 14:26; Philippians 3:7-9). 
    “They will put you out of the synagogues. Indeed, the hour is coming when whoever kills you will think he is offering service to God.” John 16:2
    “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and put you to death [once you are put the death you will be shunned and hated], and you will be hated by all nations for my name's sake.” Matthew 24:9
    Taking a bullet to the head is the easy way out. If Putin were an enemy that would be great, but he’s just a distraction. Satan knows being called trash for the rest of your life till’ you’re physically dead for speaking the truth to an organization is much, much harsher on the back, he’s a master at this.
    “We appeal gently when evil things are said about us. Yet we are treated like the world’s garbage, like everybody’s trash—right up to the present moment.” 1 Corinthians 4:13
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    Kick_Faceinator reacted to Melinda Mills in What's going on in Ukraine 🇺🇦???   
    Re-read the Acts of the Apostles, the book of Revelation and the Yearbooks especially the ones on Germany and Malawi and see if you still feel so.  Will quote one from the book of Revelation.
     
    Revelation 12:9-11:    9 "So down the great dragon+ was hurled, the original serpent,+ the one called Devil+ and Satan,+ who is misleading the entire inhabited earth;+ he was hurled down to the earth,+ and his angels were hurled down with him. 10  I heard a loud voice in heaven say:“Now have come to pass the salvation+ and the power and the Kingdom of our God+ and the authority of his Christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our God!+ 11  And they conquered him+ because of the blood of the Lamb+ and because of the word of their witnessing,+ and they did not love their souls*+ even in the face of death."
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    Kick_Faceinator reacted to Srecko Sostar in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    I think opposite, how your conclusion (about me) is wrong. But as i said, i am fine with your claim how BS titled Russell with "elder" too.
    If we start from the fact that I put an excerpt from the official JWorg site that confirms why BS called Russell a “Pastor,” then this statement of yours goes in the direction; that the official WTJWorg publication makes a false statement, that it deceives its readers. Also, that readers of WTJWorg publications cannot find out the exact historical facts, because better connoisseurs of history, like you, claim that readers of WTJWorg publications (JW and ex-JW and others) will not be able to understand what is true and what is not without correction of people like you .
    This may, of course, be somewhat true, as WTJWorg literature tends to skip historical facts or misrepresent them or, like you in this case, claim that readers misunderstand the text read.
    All of this could mean that someone in WTJWorg is engaging in intrigue while writing “spiritual food”. Or that you are engaged in manipulations. Either way, many of you don’t seem to be trusted.
    Good question. :)) I will let you know when i find answer.
    According to your opinion (or their opinion) , what is "my kind"? 
    Although your words are “dry letters” on internet paper, I feel a negative vibration through the monitor screen. :))
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    Kick_Faceinator reacted to Srecko Sostar in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    Sorry, on what basis did you come to the conclusion that I mean this or that around the name "elder" and Russell? Virtually all JW literature calls Russell a "pastor." If they call him "elder" somewhere, I don't mind, but I don't know. Maybe you have the proper link to a WTJWorg publication that shows and proves.
    Mistake from me? Not for now. I just conclude based on what I know. And that never can be wrong. hahahhahaha (Translation: joke, for those who don't understand my humorous expressions)
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    Kick_Faceinator reacted to Pudgy in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    I seriously doubt that Jehovah God has any opinions at all about how we do, or do not, calculate celestial navigation to be able to cross the oceans safely, and even nowadays use GPS. in our cars.

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    Kick_Faceinator reacted to Srecko Sostar in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    How my former fellow believers feel about me is their problem. It's not mine, and I don't think it's your concern either, is it? Or you still care, given the comment you made.
    What is your need to find out how JW feels about me? Well, if you’re interested, please read their publications and listen to what they say about former members, so you’ll know how they feel and what they think about ex-JW. Satisfied?
    I have no inferiority complex, so to think that JWs are better than other people, ex-JW or me. :))))
    Good for you, even better for others. 
    But by the way. Do you act like a "pastor" with respect to the people around you?
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    Kick_Faceinator reacted to Witness in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    For a man who demands facts, you use a lot of "bias" opinions.  
    Again and for the last time, I did not post the video because of the racial aspect, but to show JWs that a separate login is available for a select few, providing access the database of Wt. publications.   If you don't think this is "news" to JWs, then read the comments under the video to see the reaction of those people who are, or once was, a JW.
     
     It looks to me that you are quite guilty of applying this yourself. 
    This coverup is intentional by the Wt., to lock away their faulty teachings from the public and from the general population of JWs, which shows the necessary hiding of their sins.  This was my focus.  I have nothing to repent because of it.  
    The GB are modern day Pharisees, cleaning the outside of the cup - the face of their website that the population sees -  but inside, are full of "greed and evil".  (Luke 11:39)  The history of the publications shows them as false prophets, false teachers, prophesying/teaching "delusions of their own mind".  Jer 23:26 
     
     
     
     
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    Kick_Faceinator reacted to Witness in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    No.  I chose the one I cared to answer.  You have such a habit of ordering people around.  
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    Kick_Faceinator reacted to Witness in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    I'M still a member of that forum.  So?  I already told you it is accessed from the blog.  Where's the deception?  It hasn't been used for how long?  Check and see.  No "revisions" or "adjustments" have been made, as the Wt is so adept at doing.  
    Care to end your false presentation?  My goodness.  
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    Kick_Faceinator reacted to Witness in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    JWs in general?  NO!!  They don't all know about it!  They blindly follow their leaders advice to stay away from anything that is not approved by the GB!  
    This was posted by a JW, for JWs:
    To My Beloved Brothers and Sisters. New Light is here!
    I wanted to share something quite profound with you, penned by our own founder and published in the Watchtower before it was called "The Watchtower". He was so right about this point! I've included the first paragraph for context, but I would really like your opinions on the second paragraph especially. I tried to pick points that would warrant highlighting, but I found that the whole paragraph would then be colored and it would be moot. The whole thing is important, then as it is now and will be into the future. This is the truth about New Light. Much peace and love to you all.
    1881 Zion's Watch Tower https://archive.org/details/1881ZionsWatchTower/page/n49/mode/2up
    The above source is an archive site, a safe and public library featuring much of the last century's print works, free of charge. It includes much of our old publications, even well beyond what we can access through JW.ORG What a treasure trove, don't you think?
    Obviously, the intention here is to help his brothers and sisters use some critical thinking skills. But, If every JW knew about the Archive, why would this JW NEED to assure his brothers and sister that it was available...and that it is safe?  This is the same man who was surprised at finding out that there is an inaccessible database already on the JW website.  Still, many will not go to the Archive out of fear.  I've been there, I've been in that situation.  You haven't been a JW to understand this.  Why can't you just accept it?  I presented the video with no written personal opinion.  I posted it for anyone to see and form their own opinion.  They can accept it as fact, or reject it.  You, on the other hand, pick it apart and blame me for what you find is inaccurate...as if I was the one who produced it. 
      
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    Kick_Faceinator reacted to Witness in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    If this bothers you that I have expressed my opinion of confidence in what the video reveals about concealment of publications, then perhaps it should be you that should do "legitimate research".  
    Obviously, I touched a nerve, but thank you for explaining.  It must be admitted that the regular joe would question your choice.  
    I know you took great pains to write out all that you did on racism, but this isn't why I posted the video.  The primary reason is concealment of Wt's history of publications, from the general JW.  
    Regarding a secret database, this is one JW's opinion when watching the video:
    "Will you just look at that. How strange that we would make it so difficult to read our past writings. Wow. This reminds me so much of Scientology. You are only allowed certain information once you are deep enough into confidence."
    Get the facts.  Start asking every JW you know if they realize there is a database of every publication the Wt has published, and is available only to a chosen few, on the website. 
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    Kick_Faceinator reacted to Witness in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    Who was the majority that persecuted Christ for speaking truth?   Christ and his disciples were the minority.  
    It is the same with Jesus' faithful disciples today where modern-day Pharisees rule over "Israel" - the anointed.   The "majority" are the unified organization of Jehovah's Witnesses, which expels any who speak truth, and against the doctrine of men and their idol - ("Jehovah's organization").  (John 16:2,3; Mark 8:35; Rev 11:1-3,7; 13:5-7,14-18; 12:10,11)
    The mountainlike organization is already "on trial" in the eyes of God.  
    So he answered me, “This is the word of the Lord to Zerubbabel: ‘Not by strength or by might, but by my Spirit,’ says the Lord of Armies. 7 ‘What are you, great mountain? Before Zerubbabel you will become a plain. And he will bring out the capstone accompanied by shouts of: Grace, grace to it!’”  Zech 4:6-7
    He will speak words against the Most High and oppress the holy ones of the Most High. He will intend to change religious festivals and laws, and the holy ones will be handed over to him for a time, times, and half a time.  (Rev 13:5-7)  26 But the court will convene, and his dominion will be taken away, to be completely destroyed forever. 27 The kingdom, dominion, and greatness of the kingdoms under all of heaven will be given to the people, the holy ones of the Most High. His kingdom will be an everlasting kingdom, and all rulers will serve and obey him.’
    “Then I wanted to be clear about the fourth beast, the one different from all the others, extremely terrifying, with iron teeth and bronze claws, devouring, crushing, and trampling with its feet whatever was left. 20 I also wanted to know about the ten horns on its head and about the other horn that came up, before which three fell—the horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spoke arrogantly, and that looked bigger than the others. 21 As I was watching, this horn waged war against the holy ones and was prevailing over them 22 until the Ancient of Days arrived and a judgment was given in favor of the holy ones of the Most High, for the time had come, and the holy ones took possession of the kingdom.  Dan 7
    Truly, you should be wise, Allen, not woefully foolish, and get out of there before its too late.  Rev 18:4-8
     
     
     
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    Kick_Faceinator reacted to Srecko Sostar in BETHEL'S BIG SECRET   
    You justify other people's actions nicely. So, can one act unethically, morally questionable, or even unjustly because “unbelieving” people and (one other kind of Christians) Bible Students and later JWs lived in a time period when racism (or anything else) was the norm?
    The norm of behavior in different time periods of history and the present does not coincide with the interpretations of some norms we find in the doctrines of different religious communities before or now.
    This only confirms that the manifestation of religious beliefs can be manifested in at least two ways. Consistent and fanatical adherence to doctrines at the cost of ridicule, rejection, persecution and even death , to the point that compromises are made in order not to experience condemnation from the environment and society, under the pretext that it is okay because God does not ask for more. 
    (society required them to do so + kept neutrality and adhere to secular laws and customs.)
    In some of the behaviors of JW members, it was clear that the neutrality they displayed was not related to obedience to the laws and customs of society.
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