Pudgy

NOTHING you wrote refutes my statements. You are grasping at straws.

You continue to live in fantasy.

Simple! ZERO EVIDENCE The Great Tribulation NEVER happened. Armageddon NEVER happened. Out of 8 million JWs, 184 JWs die per day! God’s Kingdom is a future event. THE SENSELESS ONE IS YOU!

Want to test that premise? Refute and reprove my enumerated points.

Gibberish …. and “….Still waiting how astronomy is the link to all history and the word of God isn't. “ not even a pretense of rationality.

Your arguments are completely out on the farm, going through Booger’s Woods, dragging dead possums on a rope. They have NOTHING to do with anything I have EVER written. Or even care about! EVER! All the historical references you mention I have absolutely NO PROBLEM WITH … I will stipulate the hard historical facts you present are probably true ….. because …. they do nothing to prove that God’s Kingdom was established on Earth anywhere around 1914, and a war in Heaven that took years and cast about one-third of super powerfull life forms down to the Earth …. a multi-year battle between Jehovah God and Christ, and his Enemy and minions … … there is ZERO EVIDENCE. How do I know there is ZERO evidence? I can get up out of my chair, open the front door, walk to the street and stand on the sidewalk and with my own two eyes look around, and not see any! 1.) No evidence of a “Great Tribulation”. 2.) No evidence of Armageddon. 3.) No evidence that Jesus, after fighting a war where at least SOME galaxies would blow up …. or SOMETHING!….. now rules the Earth! None whatsoever! Why should I care one iota WHEN Jerusalem was destroyed? I don’t. EVERYONE who has cared has so far been wrong about its importance! Everybody who has ever lived. No exceptions! I can look out my window and SEE THAT! ”Still waiting how astronomy is the link to all history and the word of God isn't.” Hold your breath until you turn purple and fall over unconscious. I never said it was, and I never said the Word of God wasn’t. I do know what two system temporal benchmarks are, and you apparently don’t.

…. ah yes …. …… the “Closed Club” ….

The BIG question is … … is it worth all that effort to prove something happened that really didn’t happen, in 1914?

It’s not so much the tying of the shoes, but getting the head unstuck from the water bucket.

In Land Surveying it works the same way in spatial location as in temporal location. You have to have solid data in both systems to fit “System A” to “System B”, and only then can you translate and rotate so there are no gaps or overlap. Without a solid “benchmark” in BOTH systems, your data will not match.

One thing I have learned … Judges and Government officials msy be wrong, but THEY have the bayonets. Some things just have to be endured.

Well, that’s one less thing Ah has to worry about! I never really understood the difference between Avil-Marduk, and Evil-Knieval.

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… and, Georgie, if your reading comprehension was not so blinded by your Agenda, you would have read that my explaining my downvote had NOTHING to do with you … it was a common courtesy I felt was necessary. Me … not you. Knowing your propensity to misunderstand everything, I half-expected a protest against horseshoes.

Jehovah’s name and sovereignty cannot be “tarnished”. The opinions and ideas and slanders of mentally ill earthworms cannot tarnish humans. Same thing. The Sovereign Creator of the Universe is not a pouty liberal snowflake.

…. could be worse …. could be Hillary Clinton in a pants suit ….

Perhaps, someday, in the far distant future, somewhere around Armageddon or World War III, the Governing Body will decide that they are going to follow the instructions that Jesus gave on how the Congregation should be governed and operated … as detailed exactly In Matthew the 18th chapter. Then … Freedom and Liberty and Justice will be proclaimed throughout the land, and there will be life everlasting in the Freedom of the adopted sons of God.

It’s not about you, Georgie ……

I downvoted you, which I seldom do so it behooves me to give an explanation. You are so clueless it’s embarrassing to read your posts! It is NOT considered “cruel and unusual punishment” to execute people for crimes. It is considered “cruel and unusual punishment” to deny communications and citizenship to anyone, no matter how heinous they break the rules. Humans need the connections to other humans, same as food, water and air. Take Vitamin C out of a human’s diet and he WILL DIE , slowly and very painfully, his body disintegrating and falling apart. The same with disfellowshipping for matters that are not true, clear and present, REAL, emergencies. That’s why Jesus gave instructions in Matthew 18 EXACTLY how to do it. Do JWs do it that way? … not even close. The problem is … historically, organized religions and their minions LOVE a witch hunt.

… …. It just occurred to me! The subliminal hidden message with the Norwegian red white and blue “flag tie” is NOT FOR JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES! … IT’S FOR THE NORWEGIAN COURT SYSTEM OFFICIALS!

OHHHHHhhhhh NOooooOoo, a downvote from Alphonse … what EVER SHALL I DO? Just thinking about it gives me the VAPORS! ( flutters eyelashes rapidly ….)

I think Anna was exactly correct about this !! Norway Flag Remember the hidden message in the propaganda photograph of captured sailors from the U.S.S. Pueblo that slipped past the North Korean military? Same idea…… https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/north-korean-officials-had-no-idea-what-their-hostages-were-signaling-in-this-photo

I try to see both sides of the issue, and both sides and perspectives, so occasionally I think about how the Elders who over 60 years persecuted the brotherhood about the never-ending issue of beards … I myself being called into “the little back room” / “the red room” (some walking out embarresed to tears, with red eyes) / “room 101 (where Winston Smith was tortured with a cage of rats attached to his face) at least five times that I remember, from Virginia to California,Texas, North Carolina, sometimes several times ….. and how these God fearing men of good conscience must NOW feel for having been agents of unwarranted and continuous tyranny that has divided the Congregations, and literally soured the Truth in tens of thousands of Brothers (and their women, girlfriends and wives … destroying, and I do mean DESTROYING the credibility of the Governing Body, and any valuable principles of righteousness they may have tried to impart. Whew! THAT was a very long sentence… When I was a young man, I would on Fridays after work to a bar with fellow employees and the Client, ( who expected us to pick up the tab on our overhead account) and we all got thoroughly plastered. No matter how drunk I got I never forgot … in fact I focused on … that I was one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, and it was a great protection , always. After everyone else went home I sat there hyperventilating to burn off alcohol, then took a cab home. But, I am rambling ….. In over 55 years, because of MANY COMMON SENSE issues like “beards” I can truly say as I worked all over the United States and three foreign countries, the Elders were never an encouragement to me, except in Pittsburgh PA, and Lima Peru. It will take another 50 years I am afraid, and soon for me it won’t matter anymore. But I worry about the young Elders that grew up watching this all , and were either willing or unwilling participants in this and suchlike tyrannies, including “shunning” as it has been practiced since the 1960’s. I suppose I also worry about the possibility that they are oblivious.

Too hard fer yer, eh ….? Agenda driven NEEDS dere sock puppets!

Good one! (…assuming my sub-references are interpreting correctly.) In addition to Zeros they made tanks and ships!