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  1. On 4/6/2020 at 3:21 AM, Witness said:

     

    I was thinking of my family’s resources for drinking water where I live. One son receives gravity fed spring water from a jagged faced mountain across the road, that has been tested to be on par with the cleanest source of drinking water in the U.S. It is delicious. Our other son’s well taps into water that has seeped through bedrock under the flowing waters of a mountain stream, located just a few hundred yards from his little house. It too, is delicious and refreshing. On the other hand, the well water I drink must be filtered twice, to remove any murky sediment and gravel bits, to ensure an adequate drinking source. Although my well was dug into the earth at a depth of 365 feet to miss the iron layer that pollutes many water systems in the area, I have had better mountain well water than what I drink from now. My son’s well is 150’ deep and of course there is only a holding tank to capture the spring water feeding my other son’s 90 year-old cabin.

    So, what is the definition of pure drinking water? My source must be made purer than its original form, but it will never be considered pure; whereas I believe the two other sources are naturally purified and superior drinking sources.

    Robert Luccioni, a GB helper recently used the term “pure waters of truth”, as never before offered by the organization. Has the WT’s water/teachings ever been truly “pure”? And are they today? The speaker defended his source of spiritual provisions by using an exaggerated argument. He said all around the world you will find “brothers and sisters” feeling closer to the organization than ever before. How does this statement show the organization has “pure waters of truth”? Numbers and growth of a religion do not prove anything, since there are many religious organizations that teach lies with much larger numbers than the WT. (Luke 13:24; Matt 7:21) This GB helper left a vague picture of an earthly organization producing what is deemed as the only spring of “living waters” that one could find on this earth.

    Here is our true source:

    “Now on the last and greatest day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, ‘If anyone is thirsty, let him come to me and drink! He who believes in me, as the Scripture has said, from within him will flow rivers of living water.’” John 7:37,38

    "But whoever drinks from the water that I will give him will never get thirsty again. In fact, the water I will give him will become a well of water springing up in him for eternal life." John 4:14

    A true disciple of Christ would be distinguished by the water source he or she “drinks” from; and subsequently, offers to others. His “well”, or heart is filled with living water. (Luke 8:8,11,15)

    Certainly, JWs look toward the organization as the source of “living water”; but through the abundance of doctrinal errors, and changed teachings, much like dirty water filters, it show it has taken a route from the true, pure living water Source, Jesus Christ. It has contaminated Christ’s teachings with men’s ideas and deceitful lies. In this impure state, its ability to spiritually nourish one to “life”, is impossible. (1 Cor 10:21; Isa 28:8; 2 Tim 4:3,4)

    The speaker made an interesting comment which I will paraphrase. He said Satan’s intent is to ‘neutralize’, or eliminate the effect of…or ultimately dissolve…God’s “life-giving guidance”. Isn’t this exactly what the organization has done by neutralizing the truth from Christ, with a copious amount of “new light” in the form of men’s doctrines, historically and today?

    He quoted Jer 2:13 - “For My people have committed two evils:
    They have forsaken Me, the fountain of living waters,
    And hewn themselves cisterns—broken cisterns that can hold no water.”

    “Living water” is found at the Source, Jesus Christ; yet, at the time of the end, God’s people are thirsting for this life-giving water, with the majority not realizing it. Truth has slipped through their fingers. (Amos 8:10-12)

    The speaker mentioned one’s “treacherous heart” could stop a person from responding to God’s “directives”, or His wisdom. (Jer 17:9) These directives which the WT blatantly ignores, are found in Christ’s words.

    “A good person produces good out of the good stored up in his heart. An evil person produces evil out of the evil stored up in his heart, for his mouth speaks from the overflow of the heart.” Luke 6:45

    “For there is no good tree that produces bad fruit, nor on the other hand a bad tree that produces good fruit, 44 for each tree is known by its own fruit. For figs are not gathered from thorn plants, nor are grapes harvested from thorn bushes. 45 The good person out of the good treasury of his heart brings forth good, and the evil person out of his evil treasury brings forth evil. For out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks.” Luke 6:43-45

    Can a well suddenly produce pristine water after offering a polluted version for years? Not my well. It is either just adequate to drink, or cloudy, indicating the filters need changing. I can always depend on sediment returning in my water system. In the organization, not only has years of sediment polluted their “waters”, but a heavy iron layer…the “man of lawlessness”/elder body…has corroded and weakened the hearts of the anointed who are to carry and teach the laws of God – the Truth of Christ’s Word. (Ezek 34:18,19) (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Heb 8:10; Mal 2:7) (Luke 21:20,21; Matt 24:15; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2; 9:3,4,9,10; 13:5-7)

    Yet, those with eyes that see, have discovered that WT’s glass of “pure water”, is instead, pure poison. It is only those whose hearts are “treacherous”, believe their ‘filtered’ waters are now offering pure teachings of truth, never to be had before. From the beginning, the organization has leaned on its “own understanding”, outlined in Prov 3:5 and quoted by the speaker.

    “From the same mouth come blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so! 11 A spring does not pour forth from the same opening fresh and bitter water, does it? 12 A fig tree is not able, my brothers, to produce olives, or a grapevine figs. Neither can a saltwater spring produce fresh water.” James 3:10-12

    In the last days, there are two sources of waters – teachings – that declare to be truth; one that neutralizes any living truth from Christ, through the deceitful work of “Wormwood”. (Phil 2:15; 1 Cor 10:12; 2 Pet 2:1; Jude 1:12,13; Rev 9:1,2; 8:10,11)

    The other choice, is offered by Christ’s genuine faithful servants, producing “good fruit”; devoid of all the fanfare, organization, or exaltation of men with their assigned titles, or the sensational announcement of heightened numbers of “brothers and sisters” found all over the world. (John 7:18, 38; 16:13; Dan 12:4,9; Rev 22:6; 1:1; Rev 19:7,9,10; Matt 22:2,8,9) 

    Jesus said, "Wisdom is PROVED RIGHTEOUS by its children/results/works" (Luke 7:35) (John 7:17,18; 8:54,50).

    Although the governing body claims that they are "the faithful slave", and they enforce that claim with an army of Gentile "elders"...
    If by their own admission, the "wisdom" that they previously declared, is conceded as error (needs to be changed), then it was never God's wisdom (Jer 14:14; 23:16,15; Rev 8:10,11).

    How does a teacher "PROVE RIGHTEOUS", and therefore, exhibit genuine wisdom?
    Rom 3:4 tells us...
    "Let God be true, and every human being a liar. As it is written: "So that you may be *proved righteous* (John 7:18 16:13) when you speak, and prevail when you judge."

    There it is. If our speech is to be proven righteous and therefore wise and true, we must accept that God is true, and each of us, is a liar.
    We prove our belief that God is true, when we derive ALL we teach, from scripture (John 17:17; 16:13; 7:17,18) and Holy spirit (John 4:23,24). If we don't, it is not God who lied, but us.

    If our teachings are from God's Word, it will be found wise and true, and be proven righteous. It will not need to "vary" or change (1 John 1:5; James 1:17).

    Pearl Doxsey - "My Master is delaying" / Two witness policy

     

    “My child, do not forget my instruction,
    and may your heart guard my commands.
    2 For length of days, years of life,
    and peace they shall add to you.
    3 May loyal mercy and truth not forsake you;
    bind them around your neck,
    write them upon your heart.
    4 And you shall find favor and understanding
    in the eyes of God and humankind.
    5 Trust YHVH with all your heart;
    do not lean toward your own understanding.
    6 In all your ways acknowledge him,
    and he will straighten your paths.
    7 Do not be wise in your own eyes;
    fear YHVH and retreat from evil.

    13 Happy is the one who finds wisdom,
    and one who obtains understanding.
    14 For her income is better than the income of silver,
    and her revenue than that of gold.
    15 She is more precious than rubies,
    and all your desires shall not compare with her.
    16 Length of days is in her right hand;
    in her left hand are riches and honor.
    17 Her ways are ways of pleasantness,
    and all her paths are peace.
    18 She is a tree of life for those who seize her;
    those who take hold of her are considered happy.” Prov 3:1-7,13-18

     

    https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/

    Famine and Thirst / "buying" / Scrolls / "Mark" 

    Christ's Return -- When? 

    "Wormwood" / The False Prophet / Armageddon 

    “Who Has the Key to the Abyss?” 

    The "Garden of Eden" / New Creation / Seven Spirits / Tree of Life / The True Vine 

    Who are the "fine trees"? Matt 7:20

     

     

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    Well said.... 👍

  2. Hmmmmm ok.

    hypothetically

    Well Moses was indeed chosen by God and miracles confirmed it.

    Jesus was also chosen by God and miracles confirmed it.

    Watchtower and GB no chosen by God and no miracles either to proof it otherwise. 

    Thats where my faith is at, miracles does not apply to the watchtower as they do not have any proof what so ever they were chosen.

  3. 57 minutes ago, Witness said:

    David Splane continues:

    “By the end of the century, he certainly had shown he had blessed the efforts of the brothers, do you know that every year since 1983 more than 144,000 have been baptized each year and our brothers today don’t have the gifts of the spirit. 

    So what does this indicate?  It indicates that Jehovah has made a mighty outpouring of his spirit in these last days.  It’s a marvelous thing to behold.  When you think of it, we sort of had our explanation backwards in the past, because in the past the idea was that the spirit was poured out in 1919 and the locust went to work because the locust were Jehovah’s people.  But that’s not what the Bible says, is it.  The Bible says the locust finished their work and after that the spirit is poured out. “

    The change in the locust identity was made in 2019.  The “mighty outpouring” of holy spirit has now become evident as beginning in 1983 onward. 

    This was the teaching of the locust in 1989:

    • Joel’s prophecy gives us even more food for thought. Why, “the great and fear-inspiring day of Jehovah” is imminent! Mankind must be warned. Like the locusts in Joel’s prophecy, Jehovah’s Witnesses devastate Christendom by relentlessly exposing her spiritually barren state. This arouses the fury and opposition of her leaders, but any wall-like obstacles they try to set in the path of the symbolic locusts prove ineffective. Jehovah has poured out his spirit upon his people, equipping them to announce his judgments. Therefore, in the short time remaining before God’s fear-inspiring day, let us have a full share in helping others to ‘call on the name of Jehovah so as to get away safe.’
      w89 3/15 pp. 30-31

     

    The same year - 1989 “They have a modern Governing Body of older Christian men from various parts of the earth who give needed oversight to the worldwide activities of God's people. these men, like the apostles and older men in Jerusalem in the first century, are anointed members of the faithful and discreet slave class designated by Jesus to care for all of his Kingdom interests here upon earth. History has proved that they can be trusted to follow the direction of the holy spirit and that they do not rely on human wisdom in teaching the flock of God the ways of genuine peace. (The Watchtower; Dec. 15, 1989; p. 6)

    Well, no.  They can’t be trusted whatsoever, because THEY taught that JW “locusts” were devastating Christendom in 1989, six years after Splane says the Holy Spirit was beginning to be “poured out” onto the organization. 

    They rely totally on human wisdom.  There is a Spirit of Truth and a spirit of falsehood. (1 John 4:6) David Splane harbors the spirit of falsehood.  Luke 6:45

     

    The things that comes out of the mouth of this GB 🤦🏻‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤷‍♂️, are we just plain ignorant all for believing this utter nonsense in the past.... 

  4. 28 minutes ago, Leander H. McNelly said:

    Either way, He never mentioned there is a problem with CSA, other than to agree with the ARC the victims need to be cared for. The easiest way was if the government took full control of those cases out of the hands of the watchtower. That way, the government would be fully blamed if they didn't meet the public's expectation. The governments answer, we won't consider that. Therefore, you are a dishonest person for attempting to manipulate Jackson own words.

    But, I will agree with you on this. I didn’t want to waste my time with a bitter ex-witness, and therefore, I will agree not to answer your comments. Avoiding a person that has confused their loyalty just like the ancient Hebrews to satisfy their personal wants and needs instead of staying loyal to God and allow his process for the wicked, that neither me nor people like you can eradicate is a far more honest outlook in life.

     

    So, good luck to you as well. Just keep in mind 2 Peter 2:21 about the deliverance from false prophets and their judgement placed upon them. No one can be blamed except themselves, why? They have condemned themselves to that judgement by looking at things as the world does.

     

     

    Atleast we agreed on something, 👍.

     

  5. 41 minutes ago, Leander H. McNelly said:
    8 hours ago, JJJ-AUSTRALIA said:

    Hmmm im sorry buddy but u r not talking tp ur jwbuds here, if you want to act honest and sincere u must admit the watchtower is indeed hiding pedophiles even Geoffrey Jackson admitted to it

    I know I’m talking to apostates bud! If you Think Bro Jackson admitted to hiding pedophiles, you’re dishonest and a boldface liar, pal!

    No worries pal, i never said Geoffrey jackson is hiding pedophiles i said he admitted there was a problem within the organization in regards of CSA which is pretty much the same to me but hey thats their problem to sort out, 

    I am not dishonest at all and thats why i dont have to make excuses to defend them... 👍 And thats the reason why i left the organization because of their dishonesty and i have said it to all my PIMI friends who have said in reply Jehovah will sort it out 🤣🤣🤣

    Anyways pal, like what the society used to say get out of her if you dont want to share in their sins.

    Wont waste my time talking to jwbuds good luck... 

  6. 1 hour ago, Leander H. McNelly said:

    That’s the point, the watchtower doesn’t hide pedophiles, it's your gig! A profound anti-establishment just because you decided to listen to nonsense from the internet and fake members here.  However, there needs to be a rule of law, an objective not demonstrated here, yet foretold in scripture.

     

    Peddle those goods elsewhere with your kind, Tinker!

     

    Hmmm im sorry buddy but u r not talking tp ur jwbuds here, if you want to act honest and sincere u must admit the watchtower is indeed hiding pedophiles even Geoffrey Jackson admitted to it at the Royal Australia Commission the watchtower has a problem with CSA, he even admitted that the GB is not the only spokesman of God on Earth or are going to denied that too?

    It was also admitted at the Montana case!

    So if u are going to denied all this you better talk to ur jwbuds that they will agreed with u.

  7. 10 minutes ago, Witness said:

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxUV5Y-u3fY

    I’ve listened to this video a few times.   He makes good points, and although I am not sure what the organization’s intent is, I must agree with the maker of the video, that a change, a new teaching/”new light” appears to be afoot. 

    Will the doctrine of the “144,000” become an unlimited number to accommodate the massive “Gentile” elder body?  I say this, because the 2017 March Watchtower study magazine speaks highly of the elder body, stressing to give honor where it is “due”.  The captivating drawing depicts the symbolic “24 elders” of Revelation 4:10,11 laying their crowns before the throne of God. The article does not mention the “144,000” sealed anointed as those depicted in the picture; thus, through default – through subliminal suggestion -  who is thought to be the “24 elders” depicted deceitfully by this article?  I believe it is the “man of lawlessness” that sits in/rules and “tramples” God’s Temple/sanctuary priesthood– the “Gentile” elder body.  Matt 24:15; Mark 13:14; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2; 13:1,2,4-8   https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matt+24%3A15%3B+Mark+13%3A14%3B+2+Thess+2%3A3%2C4%3B+Rev+11%3A1%2C2%3B+13%3A1%2C2%2C4-8&version=NKJV

     “And it grew up to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and some of the stars to the ground, and trampled them. 11 He even exalted himself as high as the Prince of the host; and by him the daily sacrifices were taken away, and the place of His sanctuary was cast down.  Because of transgression, an army was given over to the horn to oppose the daily sacrifices; and he cast truth down to the ground. He did all this and prospered.”  Dan 8:10-12

    The “stars” who are trampled are the anointed ones. Dan 12:3; Phil 2:15; Rev 1:20 

    The elders are indeed, an "army".  

    "What army does Micah’s prophecy say that Jehovah would use against this cruel enemy, called “the Assyrian”? A very unusual one. The Bible says that this army is made up of “seven shepherds” and “eight dukes,” or princes. (Micah 5:5) Who are they? They are the congregation elders. (1 Peter 5:2) Today, Jehovah is using many faithful elders to shepherd and to strengthen his people for the future attack of “the Assyrian.   ws13 11/15 p. 20

    This possible new teaching would be the ultimate ‘shattering’ of God’s saints within the organization.  Dan 12:7 

     

     

    https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/09/trample-how-does-it-happen.html

     

     

    Maybe they are started to read the revelation scripture about the 144000 in context as they did with the locust 🤣🤣🤣

  8. 3 hours ago, 4Jah2me said:

    Matthew 5 v 38 through 42.

    “You heard that it was said: ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.’a 39  However, I say to you: Do not resist the one who is wicked, but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other also to him.b 40  And if a person wants to take you to court and get possession of your inner garment, let him also have your outer garment;c 41  and if someone in authority compels you into service for a mile, go with him two miles. 42  Give to the one asking you, and do not turn away from one who wants to borrow from you.

    I think Jesus made it clear that those serving God properly should not resist the Authorities of the world. Those Superior Authorities are placed in their position by God. 

    “Let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except by God; the existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God.”—ROMANS 13:1.

    So why would JWs want to resist an investigation by the Superior Authorities if they have nothing to hide ? 

    Because they have something to hide, if not they shouldn't be afraid of anything... 

  9. 1 hour ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

    So, JJJ.... um ... what was predicted in 2014 that did not happen, and what is SUPPOSED to happen that "we" predicted to happen in 2033?

    I musta been asleep about those two.

    2014 the annointed generation of 1914 that will not see death.

    2033 or 2034...!

    W03 12/15 pp 14-19

    👇 WT links the 120 yrs of noahs day to our day so since 1914 and 90 yrs has passed already so there is only 30 years left so they are giving the suggestion that 2034 might be the one finally get right 😆😆😆

     

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