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    Israeli Bar Avaddhon got a reaction from Cognitionis in The Bible is all you need   
    it is very easy to apply scriptures to others and never to themselves. Try answering the post's merit. Has the post taught to create other religions or divisions? Instead, he taught what the supreme authority is. The Bible. If someone teaches a doctrine that goes against the Bible, then it is a false doctrine. Did I say that this is not the people of God and so you have to abandon it?
    Try to distinguish an unjustified criticism from a biblical teaching. Did I say that the name of God is not Jehovah?
    Did I say that Jesus is the part of a Trinity?
    Did I teach that there is hell of fire?
    Absolutely no.
    However, the people of God will be severely disciplined (shortly) because they have not followed the Bible as they should have but have taught as doctrines of men commanded - Joel 1: 5-8
    You can not even do a search with the Bible because you have raised some people above the Bible.
    If you believe you have not yet understood everything, try to make your reflections - Amos 5: 18-20
    Just like the ancient Israelites, most of you have a false sense of security - 1 Peter 4:17
    The ancient inhabitants of Judah were too sure of them and had to wake up a good morning.
    You have the Bible: try to study it really
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    Israeli Bar Avaddhon got a reaction from Cos in The Bible is all you need   
    Dear AllenSmith,
    you will surely have noticed that I use the translator (with many errors) because my english is poor.
    So if I misunderstand a question or the purpose of a question, you will understand the reason.
    Regarding the meaning of the article, I speak of personal experience (and not presumption). I know very well that with many of my brothers, who have many good qualities, you can not talk about doctrines, you can not challenge an "official truth" because otherwise you are automatically a murmur or apostate.
    It's not a novelty that we can not recapture a doctrine so we're not talking about science fiction.
    Continue to apply the scriptures to whomever you want. It is not my problem. You will not be judging
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    Israeli Bar Avaddhon got a reaction from Cos in The Bible is all you need   
    Dear AllenSmith,
    If you want to push me to say "The Governing Body" then say "Then you are an apostate!" I assure you that this is not the point.
    If I follow any person who has authority (true or supposed) above the Bible, then I am an idolater - Matthew 23: 8
    If, on the other hand, there is someone who is able to enter the subject without taking a political position, let's see what the article is about to be published.
    The article has highlighted the correct (right, right) method of doing a biblical search.
    Who has the authority to determine whether a doctrine is correct or wrong?
    Only the Bible - Matthew 4: 4, 7; John 17:17
    The Son of God, every time he taught or responded to his adversaries, never forgot his own wisdom, but always mentioned the Scriptures - Matthew 15: 3-9
    How can we make the Bible, and only the Bible, speak when we need to understand a doctrine or teaching?
    We have to search the subject in all the scriptures that speak (and also read the context, obviously).
    To do this, Concordance is very useful (as seen in the picture).
    By doing this you will find that some doctrines are correct and some are wrong.
    Those who really love the Bible will respect the Bible.
    Those who love their religion, more than the Bible, will pretend nothing and find all "justifications" to continue in error.
    Is the article intended to be a rebellion to religion or to create another religion?
    Absolutely not because this is the people of God.
    However, although this is the people of God this does not mean that there are both doctrinal and organizational errors.
    If we read the warnings to the congregations reported in Revelation, we see that false teachings and bad people can enter into the people of God - Revelation 2: 1, 8, 12, 18; 3: 1, 7, 14 (see also 2 Timothy 2: 20-22)
    He who examines the congregations will put things into place (even with severe discipline) so we look forward to him, without creating divisions.
    But this does not mean that we do not have to study the Bible personally.
    It does not mean that we do not have to understand what the Bible really teaches (though we find that some things taught are wrong) and does not mean that we do not have to act according to knowledge acquired according to conscience.
    Studying the Bible is a duty of every Christian.
    So, for some who understood the article, the encouragement is to study the Bible with the only truly neutral and accurate help: the Bible itself.
    When the discipline comes (and it will come) no one thinks to say "I could not know. I was so taught in this way" because judgment will be individual on each of us.
    Each of us has a Bible and has the ability to understand it, asking for help from God.
    The reaction that someone has been commenting on this article should make us realize that some of us have become idolatrous.
    Someone has put their own religion above the Word of God.
    When it is not possible to discuss a doctrine (or anything else) even in the face of biblical evidence, it is evident that some people have been placed above the Word of God - Matthew 15: 6
    This is one of the reasons (not the only one) for which God will punish his own people.
    Individually, though, each of us can be protected from calamity.
    I hope that each of you can evaluate this article carefully and personally ascertain what the will of God is for us.
     
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    Israeli Bar Avaddhon got a reaction from Cognitionis in The Bible is all you need   
    But what a beautiful deep talk! How many scriptures! Unfortunately, however, the Bible teaches that each of us must "make sure of the truth" - 1 Thessalonians 5:21
    Jesus says that only the Bible is the truth - John 17:17
    The responsibility to know the Bible is of each of us and the Bereans are praised for comparing the scriptures - Acts 17:11
    Anyway I understand it's annoying to admit that you're wrong.
    All the scriptures you have mentioned do not deny these deep truths.
    You have the Bible and I have the Bible. Each of us has to study the Bible and carefully evaluate what it really teaches.
    In the end, the speech is very simple.
    There are those who love the Word of God above all else and those who pray for their own team - Revelation 3: 9
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    Israeli Bar Avaddhon got a reaction from Cognitionis in The Bible is all you need   
    Those who have "spiritual maturity" are guided by the Bible as it is the only and true authority - Proverbs 2: 1-6
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    Israeli Bar Avaddhon got a reaction from Gnosis Pithos in The Bible is all you need   
    The glory and honor belong only to Jehovah - Psalm 150: 6 Keeping this in mind, the article that follows is not intended to be a personal celebration or celebration of the blog (Romans 3:23), but make a list of achievements will serve as encouragement to all those who wish to continue to examine the Bible without conditions. For many people, in fact, examine the Bible is "too hard", "it is just one group of people chosen", you have to have some kind of education or skills, you have to follow "what they write other", you should consult some kind of scholars etc etc . These ideas clash with scriptures as Proverbs 2: 1-6, Matthew 11:25, 26, John 17: 3; 2 Timothy 3:16, 17 and others. The Bible is a great gift that Jehovah has given to mankind and the only way to appreciate the show is to study hard and respect - Acts 17:11 Our loving Father desires that each of us is received accurate knowledge of truth so that no one is destroyed - Ezekiel 33:11; 1 Timothy 2: 4 Obviously if God deliberately prevented someone to know His Will would be a partial God but we know that is not so - Deuteronome 32: 4; Acts 10:34, 35 One of the fundamental reasons why God could "stop" to understand His Word has to do with the attitude of the person as we saw in Matthew 11:25, 26 (see also Daniel 12:10). Another reason could be that the time to understand certain details, including certain prophecies, has not yet reached - compare Daniel 9: 2; 12: 9 Perhaps there may also be other reasons, but other than that nowhere in the Bible it is said that to understand His Word is a privilege reserved for a few. On the contrary, the responsibility to investigate this remarkable book is aimed at all because even the decision will be a personal thing - John 3:19; Romans 14:10; Revelation 20:13 Beginning to overcome the barriers that exist only in our heads, maybe we can approach the study of writing having confidence that Jehovah will help us - James 1: 5 Since Jehovah's Witnesses want to be the Bible to speak and not their own ideas , some may wonder how it is possible to do this. It is useless to deny that the Bible is a very large book, and that some things are objectively difficult to understand - 2 Peter 3:15, 16 Before seeing the goals achieved, thus, the article will show which method was followed to date to ensure you have really talk about the Bible. What you will learn will highlight the guidelines of proper research and is not to be understood as something perfect and not customizable. We therefore invite all those readers who have appreciated at least some of the articles posted so far to assess the ability to break away from some paradigms and start their research autonomously using only the Bible to explain the Bible * (see footnote)   The material. What do you need. The Bible (maybe three or four different translations) and Concordance. The Concordance is the publication which has been used in all the articles posted so far. Each aid can be useful but the Concordance is the only truly neutral publication because it "limits" to put the parties together without comment, outside of context and without giving emphasis to one side than the other. On more than seventy items previously posted were used books Insight three or four times (especially for historical references), we looked for an original Greek word with an explanation of the beauty of two times but every time it writes are compared via the Concordance and these comparisons are born articles. H with a Bible and a Concordance? Then you have 90% of the material you need. So grab a pen and paper and think of a subject, any. Following real example of how the articles until now have been developed. Subject: judgment, death and sin (chosen according to the doctrine which provides that death delete sins)   The Bible is all you need   As seen in the picture, you take the subject and put aside all the scriptures together with their context. Of course the context is very important and to understand it we must, at times, input entire previous and consecutive chapters. If only  highlight writing mentioning that particular person would risk to make huge mistakes because, as Christianity has taught us well, even the Bible can do to say just about anything you want - compare Matthew 4: 5-7 In doing so, speaking of judgment, we might see as "the way of Jehovah" means to do righteousness and judgment, as the "breastplate of judgment" did robe of the High Priest and so on. Writing two or three keywords to all scriptures united by the same person, we have to learn many things on God Almighty even if they have to directly to do with what we were looking for . Let us not forget what we're looking for and why. Maybe we can set aside this information and resume them at another time. It is not excluded that a subject takes us somewhere else but for now we do not lose sight of the goal. We're trying to figure out if death really gates sin and if so you can not go to trial for the sins committed before he died. Going forward we will find Matthew chapters 5 to 23 (part highlighted in yellow), and here we begin to find something strange about current understanding. Matthew 7: 2, for example, says "because with what judgment judge, you will be judged, and the measure with which you measure, it shall be measured to you" and the question that should come to mind is "When? When will we be judged to the extent that we judged? ". The only way to make this statement of the Lord coincide with the official intention is to deduce that we will all be judged in this way before his death but also with this hypothesis things do not add up. Meanwhile, Jehovah does not put on trial the people of the first century (as is with us today) and if he did ... what's the point if then death would all be cleansed from sin and start from scratch ? That 'it s what we have been taught, right? Continuing towards the next write, we read that "the Day of Judgment it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah than for that city" - Matthew 10:15 Okay, we're told that Jesus used a hyperbole but we chose the Concordance because of its neutrality! Reading simply the context of Matthew 10, it does not seem that we should read something other than what is written simply. However we put aside even this writing, along with its context, and we score two or three keywords. Continuing in this way will come to light many other details. If the emerging framework goes to "bump" against our understanding, what should we do? Maybe we should "pretend nothing" thinking that is not our business, that there are people chosen specifically for these things, it is better not find out the "Pandora's box" because what we might discover could be very different from what we have been taught? This would denote love and loyalty to our religion, not against the Word of God - 2 Samuel 22:26: John 17:17 Collide with something different from what we have been taught reveals that there is more at heart - Matthew 6:21; 22:37 They make an honest examination of conscience those who, rather than questioning their own beliefs, they said they " can not follow the logic of the articles" . Is this really the problem? If, as mentioned, the picture that emerges seems to bump into one of our doctrine, then we have to go see what this doctrine is based. We all agree that the Bible does not contradict itself, is not it? Always following the same method we get to the crux of the dispute: " For he who has died has been acquitted from [his] sin" - Romans 6: 7 What, then? It is a contradiction? Just as we have done so far, we look at the context. If we make the effort to read without preconceptions context we will see how Paul speaks of death compared to sin (verse 2) that we all were baptized in the death of Jesus (verse 3), and said that we were indeed buried with him (verse 4). There seems honestly literal language? How many of us have been buried with Christ in baptism? In addition, "we know that our old self was put to the pole with [him], so that our sinful body might be made inactive" - Romans 6: 6 Has anyone killed us when we are baptized? It 'clear that Paul is doing a lot easier than it might seem speech. If we appreciate the solemnity of baptism, we will prove to be dead with reference to sin (ie, not sinning anymore). In fact, since we are baptized we started to live a new life. From other scriptures we understand that it is not possible to "sin no more" but relying redemption and continuing to make every earnest effort, we can have a clear conscience before God. All this talk is not about the dead ones literally but in fact is the example that Paul has to make sense. But "the wages sin pays is death" .... What, then? We are once again at the head point? Absolutely not, because writing mentions the obvious: the sin leads to death. This means that in order for sin to be paid must remain in that condition - compare James 1:15 Comparing each write in their context is really a complete picture of the matter. Sin leads to death. From dead, of course, there is no longer any sin. If there were no resurrection , no one would answer for their sins. In the future, however, there will be a resurrection and that the time will respond to it - compares John 5:29 This makes us understand that Jesus was not doing hyperbole when he spoke of Sodom and Gomorrah, the profound reason why we use the term "salary" as if sin is a debt and other interesting details. And of course, this understanding does not conflict with the doctrine of the ransom because maybe not all have noticed that it is death to take away sin, then it is not the blood of Christ to do so - compares Romans 6:23 And 'death to take away sin, or is the blood of Christ? Let this simple question. If it is the blood of Christ to take away sin, those who will take advantage of the ransom will not in court - John 5:24 This topic was covered in the article entitled "Death erases really sins?" at the following link   http://attenzioneallaprofezia.blogspot.it/2017/06/la-morte-cancella-davvero-i-peccati.html   As we have achieved this goal? We had to become experts in ancient greek, we consulted hundreds of ancient manuscripts, asked for advice to various scholars, learned something from other religions or have been around the world? Absolutely not (if we did, we'd be back with more confusion than before). We have only compared the writings in context. To understand the Bible, we used the work of better consultation, the most accurate, the most objective, the most accurate : the Bible. Surely it is challenging but not difficult. Any of us can compare scripture is not it? In this way also our wisdom (presumed) passes in the second floor - 2 Corinthians 3: 4-6 What will come of it it will show what the Bible says: It is all we really need. However the human being, has a strange emotional need to complicate your life. Really such a simple method can help to reveal the Book of God? This question can only be answered with facts. With that the assumptions made at the beginning in mind , let's see what goals have been achieved and why we can be reasonably confident of being on the right track. Each subject reported below has been treated in older articles. To "make sure of all things" the reader is invited to look for these items and see if they are in harmony with Scripture.   Thanks to Jehovah, we realized that ...   1) Babylon the Great is the modern nation of Israel, NOT the world empire of false religion, and this makes logical many things including the fact that it will see only after the Lord's day and ride the UN - compares Revelation 17: 3   2) Its destruction precedes Armageddon and not the great tribulation - see Revelation 16:12, 13; 19: 11-16   3) The horsemen of the apocalypse of war, famine and deadly plague are led into battle by Jesus Christ (it is his "arrows") and this is in keeping with many judgments of the past where Jehovah has used the pagan nations - see Revelation 6: 1, 2, 3, 5, 7 and Psalm 45: 1-6   4) The first plagues of Revelation indiscriminately affect God's people as the people of the world just as happened during the plagues of Egypt.   5) There will be a world war that will bring down the king of the south and this harmonizes both Daniel and the last and only power that we see in Revelation and which so far has been erroneously identified as the Anglo-American empire.   6) The Revelation trumpets are sequential, and then is written in chronological order - compare 1 Corinthians 15:51, 52; Revelation 11:11, 12, 15   7) The anointed did not start to rise again in 1919 but will start to rise again at the sound of the seventh trumpet, shortly after the killing of two witnesses in sackcloth (future event).   8) The war in heaven break out soon after the ringing of the seventh trumpet, and will last about 30 days. These are also the "days shortened for the elect" in the likeness of what happened in the first century.   9) At the end of the war Satan will be thrown on the ground and from that moment can only act for 42 months (1260 days), which is a short period of time. 10) These are the 42 months of the great tribulation period.   11) At the end of the 1260 days of great tribulation will start Armageddon (with the fall of Babylon the Great), which will last 45 days.   12) Before Armageddon God he will lead his people to "Edom" and "Moab" that is, in a free zone where their lives and prepare to cross the Promised Land. The literal repopulation of Israel (after the destruction that has liberated from Babylon the Great) harmonises the scriptures that say that the people of Israel would be rejected but the nation was inhabited from generation to generation as the nation chosen by God to reside His Name. This situation makes us understand what it refers to writing when he says that the king of the north "will be troubled by news from the east and from the north" because it will come to know that God's people survived his fury and now is reaching promised land in fulfillment of Bible prophecy.   13) The War of the Great Day of God Almighty will take place in a relatively small area of the earth but it will be the greatest war in history where they will die the kings of the earth and their armies.   14) The Jerusalem Above is the organizational part of God's people and not heavenly organization made up of faithful spirit creatures and loyal men. This explains how it is possible that Satan tries to "drown her" spewing a river of water behind her. This awareness helps us to understand many basic things such as what is the one people of God on earth, because Christ is called "son of man" and the depth of meaning of Genesis 3:15 prophecy. 14 a ) The Above Jerusalem, towards the end of satanic system, will be led by members of the great crowd and be nourished by God to the end.   15) Armageddon will destroy the wild beast, the false prophet, all those who have the mark of the false prophet, who has opposed true Christians etc. There will be destroyed all people nor all the nations, apart from the dominant power that will end up in the lake of fire, the other kingdoms will be "removed the domain" but an extension of life will be granted for a time and a season. This period refers after Armageddon and until the end of the millennium .
    This awareness helps us to understand how is it that Satan's bait to mislead "the nations which are in the four corners of the earth" after a thousand years of sinking and to understand who is Gog of Magog and how he can "check" in the middle of the Millennial Kingdom   And many other things (the original post had a list of 26 important subjects but the article would become long, boring and certainly confusing for those who come to this post for the first time).   Article wanted to highlight a simple concept as it is profound. The Bible was also written for you. You can understand it. If you will have the intellectual honesty to get back fully into question, they will come to understand many things. Do not be afraid to find things very different from what we have been taught. Paradoxically, although this process has called into question some doctrines and virtually all the prophecies , has also shown that there is only one people of God on earth and it is this . According to the prophecies of this people it will be disciplined for this reason. Know the prophecies will allow us to not be shocked when these things begin to come true. The prophecy enables us to see beyond the darkness that is going to get even giving us the chance to help others. The prophecy, among other things, says that at one point "knowledge will become abundant." We will be among those who have insight and who will enjoy the blessings future? By our attitude, we decide it even now.
    If we continue to appreciate the Word of God above all else humbly asking Him to enlighten us to understand it, we will not be disappointed - Job 36:22; Psalm 119: 99   Footnote. The article is not meant to imply that, following such a method, you can not make mistakes. Even you do not want to diminish the importance of Hebrew or Ancient greek but today will be provided with many versions of the Bible that nornalmente you need to compare multiple versions to understand what fits best not with our preconceptions but with the context. The harmony of the Bible, alone, is able to refute all acts speeches to demonstrate unbiblical beliefs.   Plaese, visit https://attenzioneallaprofezia.blogspot.it/          
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    Israeli Bar Avaddhon got a reaction from Noble Berean in 1290 and 1335 days   
    The fact of the matter is that after having personally studied the Bible and meditating on it, certain decisions should be left to the conscience of each individual - 2 Corinthians 1:24
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    Israeli Bar Avaddhon got a reaction from Noble Berean in 1290 and 1335 days   
    The people of God, in the past, believed many wrong things about his God and his purposes, and yet remained the people of God. The people of Judah believed that they had contracted a "pact with death" and believed that Jehovah would not have them never punished because they had the Temple. On many occasions the Israelites did wrong and had misguided ideas about God's personality.
    So the point is not "change religion" because there is only one people of God.
    Paradoxically some "people in the world" can be better and more spiritual than some brothers. In the Bible, we have many examples of non-Israeli people (Raab, Rut, the Roman soldier who shows more faith in the Israelites, the Syrian-Phoenician woman with his damned daughter, etc.) who were blessed for their faith and, on the contrary, many belonging to God's people who were rejected for taking everything for granted and not really "seeking Jehovah".
    We must not think that every thought that is not in line with the governing body is apostasy or serves to weaken the faith.
    We carefully study the Bible without having a stinging attitude towards any human being.
    The Bible was written for each of us
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    Israeli Bar Avaddhon reacted to TrueTomHarley in How will it end the proscription of Jehovah's Witnesses?   
    Find the book and read it if you can. it is the only book I'm aware of that covers the persecution of Jehovah's Witnesses exclusively from Stalin's time to its publication date (2007 or so). It is secular. It does not get into prophetic patterns at all. But it is probably good background for you, as you write of these things. 
    I will look at your post in time. Thanks for it. I don't go into such things in a big way - one cannot do everything. I leave it to those smarter than me. But in time I will get to it.
    (Blush) I am also chronicling present matters pre and post-Russian ban and will release it soon in an Ebook. The Ebook will be free - it will be the first book I will try to get into print (which will not be). When released it will be on my profile page, which is now referring to another book.
    No special credentials here, other than being a long-time Witness, faithful I hope, who follows world events both spiritual and political, and who indulges a hobby of writing now that the kids are gone and the bills are paid. 
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    Israeli Bar Avaddhon reacted to JW Insider in 1290 and 1335 days   
    Just another note. An older publication of ours (One World Government - God's Kingdom) from 1977, attempted to put exact days (Month, Day, Year) on each of these time periods, but the inconsistent lengths never made sense to anyone because none of them matched, often being more than a month off, and beginning and ending at times when there was no event to pin it to.
    Here's an example:
    Beginning date:
    *** go chap. 8 p. 131 par. 23 Marked Days During the “Time of the End” ***
    This they accomplished by the end of the foretold three and a half years on June 21, 1918. Thus this period began on December 28, 1914, in the first northern winter of World War I. End date:
    *** go chap. 8 p. 140 par. 43 Marked Days During the “Time of the End” ***
    September 14, or, Elul 21, 1922, Bible calendar time, when would the 1,335 days end? As the 1,290 days amounted to three lunar years and seven months, so the 1,335 days would amount to three lunar years, eight months and fifteen days. Counting now from Elul 21 (or, September 14), 1922, we find that three lunar years from that date would end on Elul 20 (or, September 9), 1925. To this we add eight lunar months and fifteen days and arrive at the date Sivan 6 (or, May 19), 1926. Seemingly referring to this same book which was under discussion at a dinner table at Bethel in the summer of 1977, Brother Sydlik said we ought to just scrap our entire chronology and start from scratch. There was an embarrassing amount of discussion about how the math didn't work out on any of these time periods.
    But more importantly, overall the entire period of these 1260, 1290 and 1335 days from about December 28, 1914 to May 19, 1926 is a total of 4,160 days. If we were to add 1260+1290+1335 they total 3,885 days. So there are obvious gaps between the time periods, too.
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    Israeli Bar Avaddhon reacted to Noble Berean in 1290 and 1335 days   
    "Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired expression, but test the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with God, because many false prophets have gone forth into the world" (1 John 4:1).
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    Israeli Bar Avaddhon got a reaction from Noble Berean in 1290 and 1335 days   
    People of "noble mind" are those who carefully study the scriptures. The Bible was written for all mankind. The Bible teaches that if you seek truth with constancy and impregnation, you find it - Proverbs 2: 1-5
    Each of us, individually, has the duty to study the Bible.
    Judgment will also be a personal thing.
    If any of you prefer to believe that they are always "the others" to study and dig for you, you are free to believe it.
    Unfortunately this is not what the Bible teaches.
    If you think that every topic should be tested with the scriptures, okay.
    If, on the contrary, you think you do not have to study, look for and understand why "there are other people in charge of doing so", I'm sorry for you.
    Perhaps one day you will find that the Bible encouraged you to study and understand it personally.
    I have nothing else to add because these conversations are a waste of time.
    Those of noble mind, such as the Bereans, will seek in the Bible if an affirmation is true or false
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    Israeli Bar Avaddhon got a reaction from Noble Berean in 1290 and 1335 days   
    I'm not a fan of Martin Luther but the principle of studying the Bible and being guided by it is valid.
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    Israeli Bar Avaddhon got a reaction from Noble Berean in 1290 and 1335 days   
    "Because Your Majesty and Your Lordships want a unambiguous answer, I will answer without ambiguity and without bitterness. Unless I am convinced with Scripture and with clear reasoning (since I do not accept the authority of popes and conciliators who contradicted each other), my conscience is bound to the Word of God. I can not and I do not want to retract anything because it is not right or healthy to go against conscience. Here I am. I can not do otherwise. God help me. Amen". Martin Lutero
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    Israeli Bar Avaddhon got a reaction from Noble Berean in 1290 and 1335 days   
    Dear brothers,
    you should not blend the nonsense of numerologists or persecute prophecies with biblical scriptures.
    Be clear that I disown these people and these religions.
    The article may be fair or contain errors, but the only thing we need to do is understand whether the subject is a personal idea or is supported by the Scriptures of the Bible.  There are many false prophecies and many false prophets for which it is right to be cautious.
    However, "being cautious" does not mean that we have to close the Bible and not strive to understand. We can all compare the scriptures, is not it?
    We all have the Bible, is not it?
    We do not pass to the other extreme!
    The only true authority is the Bible and each of us has the chance to understand it.
    We can do an honest Bible examination without prejudice.
    The article can be questioned but it must be done through the scriptures.
    I invite you to take every single affection and test it in the light of biblical truth - John 17:17
    If there are mistakes, then let us help ourselves to understand something more but do not adopt a superficial and passive attitude towards prophecies.
    If the prophecies have been written, it is evident that we can understand them.
     
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    Israeli Bar Avaddhon got a reaction from Noble Berean in Who acts as a restriction? In what time is it fulfilled?   
    And now you know what acts as a restraint, in view of its revelation the appointed time. In fact, the mystery of this lawlessness is already at work, but only until the one who now acts as a restriction is not out of the way. Then, in fact, will be revealed illegal, that the Lord Jesus will suppress the spirit of his mouth, and reduced to nothing by the manifestation of his presence "- 2 Thessalonians 2: 6-8   Who acts as a restraint to the man of lawlessness? Part of the discussion that follows has already been mentioned in the article entitled "The beast that ascends from the sea and head slaughtered to death" * (see footnote) However, that article was devoted in particular to the beast that John saw as "slaughtered to death" and the false prophet so easily is not given due attention. The scriptures are so cleverly linked together that you can not delve into a subject without going to touch others. This reinforces the belief that the method is correct and, therefore, also the intention. To correctly understand "who acts as a restraint," and when, then we resume the discussion starting from the beast with two horns lamb. The description of this beast is very similar to what the Bible says the man of lawlessness, and so we must also seriously reviewing what we know about its possible "restriction" - Compare 2 Thessalonians 2: 9-12 with Revelation 13:13, 14 The apostolo Paolo says this man of ell'illegalità "stands in opposition and exalts himself above all that is called" god "or object of reverence, so that he sits in the temple of God, showing publicly be a god "- 2 Thessalonians 2: 1-12 Needless to deny that this description "looks like" the one that makes Daniel in chapter 11 and verses 36 and 37 ... "The king really do according to his own will, and he will exalt and magnify himself above every god; and he will speak marvelous things against the God of gods. It certainly will be successful until [the] complaint has not come to fruition; because the thing decided upon must be done. He will not consider the God of his fathers; and will not take into account the desire of women and any other god, but magnify himself on anyone. " These two scriptures seem to connect? As we have already seen, the fact that this beast possesses lamb horns is not simply indicative of its image "peaceful" (among other things does not seem very peaceful from the description which is made of) but it is a contrast with what is said shortly after the 14th chapter of Revelation. This beast with two horns lamb is a contrast to the true Lamb - Compare Revelation 13:11 with Revelation 14: 1 This contrast is so embarked, that is suggested , that even the mark of the beast is contrasted with the "seal" or the name of the Lamb and His Father that the 144,000 are on their foreheads - compare with Revelation 13:16 Revelation 14: 1 So it is clear, if we read without prejudice, you are talking of a "something" that you put in contrast to the true God and true worship. Thing? Who can get in opposition to God and to true worship? But it is clear! He says the apostolo Paolo in 2 Thessalonians 2: 4: "He stands in opposition and exalts himself above all that is called" god "or object of reverence, so that he sits in the temple of God, showing publicly to be a god "- See also Daniel 11:45 So we're talking about the man of lawlessness, of course, pretending to be what he is not, is also a "false prophet" - Revelation 19:20 So far we have been told that the apostles were to act as a "restriction" (or, at least, the first-century Christians). In fact after the death of John apostasy exploded in all its power and before the end of the second century there were already seven divisions and utterly false beliefs. Although we are talking about the false prophet, and then the events for the last days, this is not a contradiction in what the apostle said that this lawlessness "was already at work" in his day. It should be noted that there is a fundamental difference between "being at work" (which may occur behind the scenes and with limited means) and the open "revelation." Paul is talking about a particular period of time ... "about the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him" - 2 Thessalonians 2: 1 He says that before this had to be the man of lawlessness. As soon as possible? He meant perhaps 2000 years before? To understand this we must identify two key events: the presence of the Lord and the gathering together unto him. In simple words the apostolo Paolo is saying ... "Seeing this ... then we can talk about the presence of Christ and our gathering together as spiritual creatures with him." It is evident that, although the man of lawlessness was already at work at the time of the apostle Paul, it would be completely revealed in the end time and precisely the approach of "gathering together unto him." Needless to say, the gathering with Christ, which is the spiritual resurrection, did not occur at the end of the first century, Jesus began to rule the world at that time. So if the prophecy of the Apostle Paul had an initial and partial fulfillment at the end of the first century (there is no doubt that at the end of the first century, the congregation was corrupted at the speed of light), it is in the end time we have to wait the full revelation of this false prophet. This is fully in keeping with the last book of the Bible. Whatever idea we made about it, if we read in chronological order Revelation 11: 7 and then 13: 11-14, everything will become clear. The beast with two horns lamb is also known as a "false prophet" and says it is misleading the entire inhabited earth because of the "signs which he had power to do." This is reminiscent of the words of Jesus recorded in Matthew 24:23, 24. In harmony with the words of the Apostle Paul, only in the vicinity of the abduction at Christ the man of lawlessness he would be truly revealed. When it begins, according to Revelation, the spiritual resurrection? In that time, the kingdom of the world becomes the kingdom of Christ? Let's try to read the following verses in chronological order - Revelation 11: 12-15 If, then, Daniel, Matthew and Revelation are connected ... who is to act as a restraint against the man of lawlessness? In the book of Revelation it is clear: are the two witnesses in sackcloth . Exactly as it happened towards the end of the first century with the death of the last apostle, an event that started the apostate Christendom, in the end time we expect a second and complete fulfillment. What happens as soon as they are "out of the way"? Once killed, quickly it appears this beast with two horns lamb which you adore and performs signs exactly as it is described in Daniel and in Matthew. Another interesting detail confirms this understanding. Again the apostle Paul, speaking of the same subject, says that "the Lord Jesus will suppress the spirit of his mouth, and reduced to nothing by the manifestation of his presence." Yet Babylon the Great, which would include the man of lawlessness (according to the official intent) is not suppressed either directly by Jesus or God. We know that God (not Jesus) puts in the hearts of these kings that make up the wild beast to destroy Babylon the Great, but not destroy it He directly. Instead, with respect to the false prophet, the Bible says ... "And the wild beast was taken, and with him the false prophet who had performed in front of it the signs with which he misled those who received the mark of the beast and those who render worship to its image. While they were alive, they were both cast into the lake of fire burning with brimstone "- Revelation 19:20 The scripture references are so many: just put them together. The death and resurrection of these two witnesses, an event that kicks off the general spiritual resurrection and at the sound of the seventh trumpet that makes the kingdom of the world the Kingdom of God (1 Corinthians 15:51, 52), you see this strange beast - Read Revelation 11:12, 15; 12: 1, 5; 13:11 If we read Revelation chronologically it will become much simple.    
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    Israeli Bar Avaddhon got a reaction from Noble Berean in 1290 and 1335 days   
    Dear Brothers, we must make sure of everything in the light of scripture - 1 Thessalonians 5:21; 2 Corinthians 13: 5
    I am willing to question any statement. I'm not inspired and I have no pretending infallibility.
    However, it is incorrect to have a passive attitude towards prophecies and the Bible in general - 1 Thessalonians 5:20
    We have the duty of studying the Bible, meditating and praying to understand it.
    it is wrong to think that the others must always be doing it for us. We have a responsibility. I want to remember that even the judgment will be personal - Romanos 14:10
    What has been written can be objected and discussed. I am willing to discuss and even retract if Scripture convinces me that we must do it.
    Unfortunately, many brothers have an attitude of subjection to the one who takes the directive. You can not object, you can not discuss anything that comes "from above".
    Does our total loyalty go to a group of people or to the word of God?
    The Word of God says that we must seek, dig, engage - Proverbs 2: 1-5
    Some prophecies are fulfilling under our nose and almost no one realizes it. Kids wait for someone to tell them what to do.
    But God has given us the Bible and said to use our faculty to reason.
    If anyone wants to contest the article is free (and encouraged) to do so. Together we can get to understand something more.
    However, every challenge must have the support of the Bible. it is pointless to make a "political forum" where everyone says what he thinks. Every subject must be supported by sacred scriptures.
     
     
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    Israeli Bar Avaddhon reacted to JW Insider in Russian JW's Begin to Remove Kingdom Halls Signs   
    I found the article, and read several of the other ones, too. (At least in a Google Translation from Italian to English.) I thought that most of your articles were very clear, and I appreciate that you are asking good questions about the many gaps and inconsistencies in our current explanations. Since Daniel is a book that many of us have just recently been reading in our Bible reading schedules, I think a separate topic would be great and timely. It would have to be under "Controversial Posts" because, of course, even the potential existence of gaps and inconsistencies is something that many of us must deny.
    I have not yet come up with a good explanation that resolves all the gaps, although, the vast majority of them are automatically resolved by just accepting certain verses at face value, instead of imposing unlikely interpretations of them. Still, prophecy in Daniel, Ezekiel and Revelation are some of the most intriguing and I have not considered any of my digging to be conclusive. I can tell you have put a lot of thought and time into understanding them through scriptural references. I must tell you right from the start that my approach is similar, in always using other scriptures to find explanations, or just admit that we won't know if no specific scriptural support can be found. Still, even though you apparently think in the same terms, I can tell that we will still disagree on most of our current opinions. Of course, different opinions are just fine with me . . . so I still think a further discussion is worth the while.  
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    Israeli Bar Avaddhon reacted to JW Insider in Russian JW's Begin to Remove Kingdom Halls Signs   
    Your take on this is interesting. I agree that there is a gap in the Watchtower's reasoning here. This was just barely touched upon at the convention this summer. I watched your video but didn't go to your site. Can you say what you think is a more likely view of the King of the North and South in your opinion?
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    Israeli Bar Avaddhon reacted to Queen Esther in Hope in Jehovah, and Be Courageous !   
    Hope in Jehovah, and Be Courageous !
    “Hope in Jehovah; be courageous and let your heart be strong. Yes, hope in Jehovah.”—PSALM 27:14.
    There brothers and sisters genuine hope is like a bright light. It helps us to see beyond present trials that we may be passing through now, and gives us strength to face the future with courage and joy. Only Jehovah can give us a sure hope, which he does by means of his inspired Word. (Read 2 Timothy 3:16) In fact, the words “hope,” “hoped,” and “hoping” appear over 160 times in the Bible and refer both to the eager and sure expectation of something good and to the object of that expectation.* Such hope is superior to a mere wish, which may have no foundation or prospect of fulfillment. So When we are faced with trials and hardships, we should keep in mind Jesus fine example. Jesus looked beyond the present and hoped in Jehovah. “For the joy that was set before him he endured a torture stake, despising shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.” (Read Hebrews 12:2) Because he was keenly focused on the prospect of vindicating Jehovah’s sovereignty and sanctifying His name, Jesus never deviated from his course of obedience to God, no matter what it cost him. King David is another fine example he points to the connection between hope and courage, saying: “Hope in Jehovah; be courageous and let your heart be strong. Yes, hope in Jehovah.” (Read Psalm 27:14) If we want our heart to be strong, we must never let our hope become vague but always keep it clearly in mind and close at heart. Doing so will help us to imitate Jesus in manifesting courage and zeal as we share in the work he commissioned his disciples to do. (Read Matthew 24:14; 28:19, 20) Indeed, hope is placed alongside faith and love as a vital, enduring quality that characterizes the life of servants of God.—1 Corinthians 13:13. Brothers and sisters we have a wonderful future before us. Anointed Christians eagerly await serving with Christ in heaven, while the “other sheep” hope to “be set free from enslavement to corruption and have the glorious freedom of the [earthly] children of God.” (Read John 10:16; Romans 8:19-21; Philippians 3:20) That “glorious freedom” includes deliverance from sin and its horrible consequences. Indeed, Jehovah—the Giver of “every good gift and every perfect
    present”—would extend nothing less to his loyal ones.—James 1:17; Isaiah 25:8. So to keep trusting in Jehovah we need to imitate Jesus, our Exemplar, he thrived on God’s Word. By considering him closely, we avoid ‘getting tired and giving out in our souls.’ (read Hebrews 12:3) It stands to reason that if our God-given hope grows dim in our mind and heart or if our focus shifts elsewhere—perhaps to material things or to secular goals—spiritual weariness may soon overtake us, eventually leading to loss of moral strength and courage. In that frame of mind, we may even experience “shipwreck concerning [our] faith.” (1 Timothy 1:19) On the other hand, true hope strengthens our faith. We now so close to the time the bible call God's new world we all need to keep trusting in Jehovah and keep out hope alive Gods new world is soon at hand
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    Israeli Bar Avaddhon got a reaction from Alexa in Does death really erase sins?   
    Referring to those cities that would not listen to the message, Jesus said that on the Day of Judgment he would be more bearable to Sodom and Gomorrah than to them - Matt. 10:14, 15; Matthew 11: 20-24

    Before saying that he used a hyperbole, we would think about another writing.
    Matthew 12:36 says, "I tell you that any unprofitable word that men will say will account in the Day of Judgment."
    If we only read what has been written without seeking articulated interpretations, it is well understood that "they have said" is in the past, referring of course to what has been said in this life and not what they could have said in the future (in fact, Jesus he is condemning the Pharisees who have just asserted that He drives out demons by Beelzebub).
    Let's think about one last writing.
    In 2 Timothy 4:14, the Apostle Paul said, "  Alexander the coppersmith did me a great deal of harm. Jehovah will repay him according to his deeds "
    Jehovah would have repay his works when?
    Before his death, that is in the first century?
    Did Jehovah perhaps intervened to punish all persecutors of Christians in the first century?
    Is it not clear that the Apostle Paul is saying that Jehovah would remember the actions of this Alexander on the Day of Judgment?

    The fundamental question is therefore the following:

    We are certain that when the apostle Paul spoke the words in Romans 6: 7, he meant what we believe he understood?
     
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    Israeli Bar Avaddhon reacted to The Librarian in Il nome di Dio è "Geova" o "Signore"? Cosa è scritto nella Bibbia?   
    Il nome di Dio è "Geova" o "Signore"? Cosa è scritto nella Bibbia?
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