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Perhaps, but the scrubbing issue is quite annoying by Google and others like them. There is a lot more in that thread I am referring to, I was only brief here, but the claim was the faith community in question made the claim to be Prophets Inspired, at the level of having the ability to have accurate predictions, but this in of itself is an incorrect claim. Butler also made a similar assertion, even here when he didn't know of what is being conveyed. But as mentioned, often then not, the same thing has often repeated to the same persons, time and time again. Members of the Mainstream have come here, and their influence also spills over to specific persons. The reason why I mention some have sided with Atheists and Trinitarians just to attack members of their former faith, even going as far as to use misconceptions and same tactics. @Cos was one, relentless ones are usually Shiwii and Jesus.Defender. For not only they embolden EXJWs, so to speak, they also try to twist Scripture to make it seem Jesus was God, and in Shiwii's case, he had quite a twisted view concerning Jesus' Resurrection, attempting to include the Trinity Doctrine into specific verses concerning that, for these things can fool the visitors. The irony in this also is the fact the others did not challenge him because they depended on him at the time to create more opposition of their former faith. The only Trinitarian who is still somewhat active here is Matthew, of whom you are familiar with who created a specific thread concerning you. True, but as you can see, that in of itself is a battle. Someone tried to start grounded discussion before, a few people actually, but the same group of people often come around to create issues. Which is true, but still we have to battle against the Mainstream. As of the last several years, concerning the Bible it has brought in more people to combat the people who defend later sources of which to push the Trinity Doctrine which never originated with the Early Church. I have made some threads in the past calling out claims of Trinitarianism when it comes to Translation changes of which they use to push the Triune teaching. Yes. There are Prophets, however, there aren't any of which who can transfigure, have visions, predict specific events, heal/raise dead, etc. of which is granted by means of God's Spirit, around John's time. Prophets, as with Seers, are Spirit led (Inspired by Holy Spirit), this is what I stated to @Witness and Butler here and in the original thread, in addition to what these kinds of Prophets are doing, i.e. preaching gospel of the Messianic Age. To them, it seems as though they're attesting to the fact Inspired Prophets who are capable of such abilities are still present today, which puts Christianity's history itself into a contradiction, as is John's Students, and their history. Christians today are like that of Prophets who are led by the Spirit. Which is true, but then you have Rebellious Angels who do the opposite, moreover, such pose as God's Messengers, which is why Paul's words in Galatians is one of which that provides counsel. And speaking of Rebellious Angels, those who claim to be Prophets Inspired, for instance, being able to raise the dead or heal, do not have God's Spirit with them, but a Rebellious one, which can fool people. This also relates to what @Equivocation brought up in his thread about a man who claims to be a Prophet Inspired and had been to/seen Hell, which is something not true. Another example is a contact I have in Russia, who talked about a guy who claim to be Jesus with the Holy Spirit (The Russian Jesus). Those who are of God can see such people like this are in err. It is, and even now, speaking about his influence, Babylon has been making a few moves recently concerning the Information War over in the EU. For in times like this, people need be aware of the real enemy of whom is deployed by the Devil.

Speculation. That reminds of the, ironically, the 1975 discussion. As we can see, concerning what the Information War (and Hot War) can turn into, there are both sides. Not to mention, False Flags can make people jump to conclusions, even take action. That being said, conflict overseas won't be one's only concern, but a Systematic Warfare among the people in the US and elsewhere, for neighbor will come against neighbor with ill intent, to survivor, to attack their own, etc. Something of which myself and @Kosonen has always talked about on here. Then you got the Reset, which will truly cripple the people even more. @Araunahas been vocal on that. As the US dollar drops even more, the moral compass of some will also fall, for when ill intent is at an all time high, men, women and children, who are unaware won't be safe. By the time unaware people figure out who the true enemy is, it will be too late.

True. Even a couple years ago when the Truther community did speak about the actions of NATO and the US allies, along with the United Nations, we were censored. It was inevitable that an action will cause an International Conflict. The difference is that the US and their allies is dealing with a Nuclear Super Power. That being said, the information we had was someone from NATO several years ago stated there want to start wars with several countries, those who were not on their side. We seen what they did already with the aid of the UN. For the Wild Beast knows what it is doing. But this time, the fear and panic the unaware are succumbing to vs the aware who saw this coming and are prepared. This is also a reminder that man cannot bring true peace or security, for only God and his Christ is capable to do such. For whatever man touches, something gets tainted elsewhere. That being said, violence, famine, fear, death is at an increase, especially in the US. Granted the economical Crisis taking place in the US, it is confirmed to slowly spill over into the EU. Elsewhere, heavy weaponry is being moved around in Glasgow, six deadly warheads making it's way over to the Royal Navy depot. Fighter Jets flying over the skies of the United Kingdom.

True, but as of recent, Google has done a bit of scrubbing, so you have to be more detailed in the search. Normally if I look up the thread name, it is the first pick, but after the last 3 months, it has been moved to pages, and eventually, a detailed/advanced search must be done. One has to remember that Google is part of Big Teach and they are no stranger to Censorship and they support it. True, you can be banned, but Google wills scrub what it needs to scrub. At times they get more serious about it too, for instance, Loudon County, those who spoke up, as myself included have, were targeted by keyword censorship effectively making what we say non-existent, more so, anything YouTube related, Google is tied into YouTube so censorship is in full force. So one cannot put too much trust in Google, granted in specific cases, they want you to see what they take a liking to. I have done so, even in her original thread. However, the adoption of Mainstream concepts concerning such Prophets, she thinks otherwise, as do most people who do not truly know the difference. But as pointed out, the events of 325AD is a dead giveaway, as is the students of John, who they themselves were Prophets Not Inspired. Yes, and still the Mainstream is like that of an enemy that does not know it is put down. Granted the fight between both factions persist, it will only end when the End Time Tribulations come, as is when the Commission ceases. But around that time, Babylon will use those for her to go after God's people with a serious intent to put them down, as is the Beast who will have it's role to play. During that time, endurance is going to be key as is keeping one's faith strong (Jude 3). For False Prophets will be even more callous in action. Yes I am aware of that, but in the fight for Bible Translation, people were indeed attacked, killed for it. And by whom, the side who took favor with Roman Emperors. I believe even at the time of Jerome, some people also attest to the fact the Church was Latinized, to some extent. True, likewise with knowing those today vs the time of when John was alive.

And this is why I am against KAIROS and PEAK, not only they are of the Mainstream, but they are the opposition to the legitimate core teachings of the True Church.

A single name - Madeleine Albright. For the situation that led up to this is far more deep and serious. Then again, you never paid attention to when it was said how the Wild Beast and Babylon was moving. So the rest you can figure out on your own.

World War III has not begun yet, it is only an Information War as is a Hot War, remember, do not speculate of a possibility. The dominos for WW III has yet to happened. As for Ukraine, the US and their allies do not truly care for them, for Ukraine is only a tool to be used as a crux against Russia, granted the US and their allies with NATO affiliates and their actions. That being said, the same thing of what I had told you many times, years ago, is taking effect, as we can see, granted the actions of Russia and their allies; then again Truthers are always targeted by the MSM, perhaps now you see. For you were always told of who the true threat is, for the majority, it will be already too late, the white throne those will have to answer to eventually. Going forward, you should be concern of what your next steps are in the coming Reset and the actions of both Babylon and the Beast. As we speak, weaponry and resources are being moved in the UK area, namely Scotland, and the area of which I associate you with, Glasgow. A US ally is playing their hand in something serious, just so you know.

@Witness The Them remark was in regards to you and Srecko, granted originally you made the thread about False Prophets. The Chosen has nothing to do with the non-existence of Prophets Inspired after Apostle John. Therefore, you cannot name one, or call to existence any who came forth after John. For if his students were simply Prophets Inspired, it is 100% accurate to note no Prophet Inspired existed afterwards, especially with the events of 325AD and onward. As a side note there were Chosen who were indeed Prophets Inspired, but these persons were around John's time, and the majority died out, with the last of Inspired Prophets to remain alive was Apostle John himself, hence Apostle Paul's message to the Corinthians in his First letter regarding of such a time to come.

There is a possibility, as is with Elon being a cog in the machine in regards to the events of Ukraine/Russia.

The thing is they do hang out in the main page, which is outside of this club. In the past, visitors had the ability to speak their peace, but not anymore, they can come to this club and after a few clicks the club is blocked. Guests, at the time who did interact were usually the ones who didn't like the misinformation or falsehood being spoken. This was the case with some of them interacted with the likes of Witness, Srecko, Jesus.Defender and Cos. The only time a visitor did ask to use something here was the information addressed concerning child abuse, and this guest in question was not on a warpath as our friend on this forum who often yells from the roof tops about it, but does not do anything. This is the main page - https://www.theworldnewsmedia.org/ I cannot speak for the other clubs though since majority of the traffic is here, however, one club that was opened up because of cause, a guest did interact more concerning a missing persons issue, granted at the time, myself and others were posting everywhere concerning people instead it being in an isolated community. True, a Spirit Led Prophet and or Christian, I mentioned this. Likewise with the counterpart, those who are influenced by the Devil who assume their experience is of God, when it isn't. The very reason I quoted Galatians 1:1-11's point to Witness. I had ran into a lot of people who assume they have some level of inspiration, as is abilities, even debated them. The show they give when they assume they have the spirit is quite silly. Then you have the Demonic types, manifestation of evil spirits, etc. Who, in most cases, are dangerous, even towards Christians, in some instances, such people can break someone's faith if caught off guard. No Christian is immune to such if they do not notice such an enemy, this is the same case with JWs, who are caught off guard by such and they themselves can fall. Yes, but this also treads beyond Catholicism, i.e. PEAK, KAIROS, etc. who believe they can heal and cleanse. The fact such False Prophets exist also causes people to be confused of who is and who isn't a False Prophet in most cases, especially if the latter is heavily involved with Babylon the Great. This is why when the day comes when Babylon goes after God's people, it will be a critical time to be enduring. This is why I discern and maintain neutrality with individuals who show what spirit they have and my reaction/response towards such persons, hence the verse I always quote. Although Bible Tampering was a thing, even winning out, there were people who fought to protect God's Word and Translate the Bible with the earliest sources known compared to those who have violated Deut. 4:2. Some where even killed for it, i.e. William Tyndale. Those who make up the latter are the majority of Mainstream Christendom, unfortunately for the EXJWs, in this regard, they are consumed by it, granted, whenever they talk about Bible Translation, the talking points of the Mainstream they adopt. Yes, and due to that, such ones discover the truth concerning Bible Translations, as is the sources. Coming to the realization of the actions of Mainstream Christendom has fooled them. When they find truth concerning the Bible, yes.

@TrueTomHarley Sometimes when comments overlap, it can get confusing if one isn't paying attention. But as mentioned to @Dmitar a better approach concerning visitors would simply be to make a thread of the subject itself; this is what I did in the past concerning Trinitarian claims vs the Bible, as well as the Child abuse prevention, of which that topic in of itself someone translated into a different language, so I would have to update/revise it and create a thread, especially now due to how problematic the situation is in 2022. That being said, most visitors, well now, tend to stick around the main part of the forums granted they have little to and or limited access to see anything mentioned here.

As of recent, The Establishment is now targeting Elon Musk to adhere to censorship. Although it is unlikely he'd give in, granted his view of Freedom of Speech, but a possibility is they might do something to effect him in order to do so. Big Tech may get involved.

Sadly if anyone points out the difference as I mentioned, a thread will pop up later with those who believe otherwise. The reason I often use quotations or source a thread. Perhaps a better idea would be to create a thread to give the difference in full detail so should something like this come again, simply source/cite it. Revelator should be added to that list also, since many do not know or confusion that, as is, Visionary. Visitors can easily get to said thread if need be without cutting vines to find information.

The alluding was quite obvious, as for where I quoted myself. It came from a thread concerning False Prophets. I quoted the Word to be inspired several times, however, there was a time Bible tampering did exist and they had won out, only for Textual Criticism to come into play. That is why I told Srecko the following concerning early and later sources. Well the reality is, Mainstream Christendom have and continue to use this as a tool to the truth itself for the majority are KJV-Onlyist who believe Jesus to be God when the Scriptures does not even suggest that. But as mentioned it all points back to 325AD, and evidently the issue with the Bible Translations later on. If I recall, JWI is aware of this, concerning the birth of the Trinity Doctrine, as is the creation of the KJV, along with Bibles that use a later source, which caused confusion to many.

Although alluded to Seers also, I believe this was said concerning those who are under God's Will and Purpose. But as mentioned, the latter adhere to the Mainstream Ideology, which does not reflect with what is written, nor the history itself concerning Christianity. But I left them with a question to name someone who is indeed inspired, and still, no answer was given. That being said, those who claim to be inspired, are the ones to kid themselves when such went out with the last Prophet Inspired who outlived everyone, Paul, Peter, those of Pentecost, etc.

Essentially what I told Witness concerning the difference of those who are Prophets Inspired vs Prophets Not Inspired. Although both have Spiritual Insight, only the Prophets Inspired had such abilities to heal and raise the dead, even have visions, etc. What I do not understand is the mainstream idea that such things people assume those Inspired still exist despite the very history of Christianity refuting the claim itself. This was mentioned in a response to Witness. Pages 39-41

Someone who who is under God's divine Will, having the ability to discern, have insight, to see and understand things the common person cannot, and or the general public, to perceive a hidden truth about things. They also offer counsel if need be. A man of God, even of whom are found to be inspired, a teacher of a known truth. Through God's Will they make God's purpose and Will known to the people; profess an inspired message. They are also like that of a Spokesman and or Representative of God, often times, perhaps most times, act under Shaliach Principle/Agency (Messenger), speak on God's behalf, to speak His message to the people. Although a Seer and a Prophet are similar in some aspects, they are different, but if anything, a Seer is mostly the type to discern things. Another thing to note is that in olden times Prophets previously used to be referred to as Seers.

True, there are many who claim to do the same thing, to have the ability to heal when it is untrue, mostly staged. In the Caribbean Islands, even in the days of my mother and father they seen this, but also saw some who claim to raise the dead; hence why my mother was very careful in her youth, and was encouraged by not simply super heroes, but the fact she came to learn God's Word, it has emboldened her when she got older whereas my Father grew up by Scriptures, for even then he himself didn't believe the Trinity to be true. Onward to present day, such an idea of healing and raising the dead still persist, so much so, it can also be associated with Spiritism, hence the very thing Christians on the island is cautious about as is being against, Black Magic, which is something serious. Even in Scriptures, we see examples of Moses vs The Pharaoh's Magicians, as is the one person who claimed to call Samuel who had since passed. That being said, there are many out there who said they or claim to have the spirit, and due to their actions, as to what spirit they gained, isn't the holy spirit, hence an entirely different spirit. An example that the Devil and his followers do not have time left so they use their shenanigans on people on the earth, so much so, they gain converts, so to speak.

Also for the record because I know you won't bring it up after this. After John Butler was banned possibly around October of 2019, a few months later, John Butler II emerged around December, pleading with Admin, both in 1st person and in 3rd person, hence you wearing a mask (so to speak), in a few remarks. It is also noted that it was not anyone else, but you, granted of not only the mannerisms, but what was said. Admin essentially shut that down too, with the thread involved, effectively wiped, likewise to your use of Ebonics, which I will find should the situation calls for it. Of what Admin did, difficult to track with Archives, but the name was found, even if anyone looks at the members of the club itself, the name is found, present day. Next time, understand the order of your own house, for if something is said, it isn't without reason. So the order it seems, concerning you, John Butler > John Butler II > 4Jah2me > Patiently Waiting For Truth (current) https://www.theworldnewsmedia.org/profile/18849-john-butler-2/ 3rd person talk concerning your tenure is quite the mask of which is worn. That being said, I believe this matter, has concluded, Mr. Butler. If there is an Allen Entity, I guess one can say there is Butler Entity as well, but such an Entity is aware of his tenured sentience.

@Witness By the way, granted I can't edited, pertaining to Galatians 1:1-11, this is true. No one can have visions at the level of a Prophet Inspired, therefore, anyone claiming, for example, an Angel showed them what Heaven looks like, or Hell; the claim of what God does to the wicked for an eternity to men, women and children, not only is the claim false, but that is indeed a legitimate Prophet who is false, especially one who claims to be a Prophet Inspired.

I run into such people a lot, so at some point one has to understand these type of people and their mindset; discernment. Ms. Ashton is no different. The Christian Right, Conservativism Christians, are part of the paradigm, as is their Left counterparts, so they tend to be all over the place. Mainstream Christendom has their hands on them also, so much so, as to what I mentioned to @Dmitar concerning the events of 2016, such ones were swept away by Babylon; like a wave of water crashing into people, only a few left standing while the others vanish, type of deal. The person running the show was Pope Francis, with the backing of the UN. This is why I do not like KAIROS or PEAK because they are affiliates, as is Religious Powers who are of the Beast, one in question who had a hand in the banning of your faith in Russia back then.

Due to the history that transpired after Apostle John, you can't attest to the Mainstream notion to assume such abilities still take place today. You need be careful, for if the abilities that the Chosen and John had; people having this today, we would have never had the events of 325AD. I had reasons to bring up Constantine. That being said, what I quoted originally of which you ignored, refutes the claim, for Prophesying cannot be confused with what a Prophet Inspired is capable of vs a Prophet Not Inspired. Also read carefully next time, for this was presented to you before: It is not wise to confuse things as the Mainstreamers do. As a side note, I talked about this when someone brought up those who claim to have visions of Hell. The added irony to this, @Kosonen, who is also said to be chosen, would say something to a similar effect as I have.

The thing is, this is true, there is no one after John that is an Prophet Inspired, who outlived everyone, even those at Pentecost, who is a Prophet Inspired. This is extremely obvious due to the fact you have many denominations regarding the Abrahamic Faith, the existence of 2 factions of Christendom, etc. Likewise with the numerous Bible Translations, even revised. This is why I said to @Srecko Sostar and @Witness before, even now, for should a Prophet Inspired did exist, be it one or a few, we would not be in the position we are in now, essentially. Not to mention, the students of Apostle John and their ordeal cannot go unnoticed. God has already made this clear, as did our Christian brothers and sisters before us. I do not see why you take such disdain for a Prophet Not Inspired, which is what you are, myself, and others. For we have things we can do although our Inspired counterparts have done better. I do not pretend. Hermeneutics is vital. As is research and study. You are now focus on the chosen, even concerning them, the abilities of which was mentioned, died with the Last Apostle. None of them today, Solider of God, and or others, or the ones of whom the Jehovah's Witnesses say is chosen, all of them are not Prophets Inspired. Although our past counterparts had such abilities, those today, 2nd century and onward, do not. Granted, I mention this all the time and now you seem to notice this. I am well aware, but clearly no one after John had such abilities. You can't even prove it, should you try. But if you want to be my guess, and if I am in the wrong here, what is stopping you from naming a Prophet Inspired today? We both know about the Chosen, but the Bible is clear on things pertaining to Apostle John. And what transpired afterwards prior to Constantine having his hand in Christianity. As pointed out, if Prophets Inspired existed after John's death, his students would not be in a difficult position, Christianity would still be like that of the Apostolic Early Church with no shift or change from Roman Emperors of the rise of Catholicism. No Holy Wars would exist in which blood is spilled on soil, for God's people will be unified against threat, and there would not be any other faction of Christendom, let alone denominations. The only thing we'd be dealing with possibly is those who have a believe in False Gods/Goddesses only like that of God's people in Ancient Israel, or something to a similar effect. Because John's students and those after them do not have such abilities. No one can transfigure, no one can attest to having visions and or revelations from God concerning the things to come. All we have is what is written and we do out best to adhere to it. Likewise with the events, 2nd century, to the 4th concerning the Council of Nicaea and onward, Bible Translations, etc. It's pretty obvious. Not really because if that were the case, you'd realize the position of the students of the Apostle, who knew God's Word on the same level of Apostle John. You never apply discernment, so how can you tell? Not really. But that is quite the accusation. The Watchtower is aware that they are not Prophets Inspired. If they did have absolute power, then they would have been in KAIROS as the majority of Christendom. You aren't if you didn't realize Apostle John had students. Actually you have in the past. A specific Bible Strong's can be coined. That being said, it is pretty odd as to how both you and @Witness or not only downplaying the students of John who was at his level concerning God's Word, but the history of the 2nd century to the 4th century. For what reason? A mystery. Surely, former Jehovah's Witnesses would do better than that, but as I said in the past, even recently, Mainstream ideas tend to get the best of you.

Granted how grave the situation is, unlikely.

Quite simple, The Early Sources, then you have the Later Sources, for which some of them contain text that is not inspired, rather, are simple narratives, we've been through this several times already, i.e. The Adulterous Woman narrative, Acts 8:37, etc. As is with Hebrew and Greek Strong's. This also connects to Prophets Inspired and the ones Not Inspired.