DefenderOTT

Actually, I don't think so. "Fair use" is a pretty bedrock principle of American law. Otherwise there could be no commentary of anything and most of the news and print and internet media would implode into a black hole. 
Fair use allows for short passages to be quoted. Long segments are another thing entirely.
I try to be careful on this and not abuse what is permissible . While I do have some short quotes (not many, really, at least not in comparison) I have not used the organization's artwork or logo, as though it were my own. 
It is obvious why they would not want a liar doing this. But even a friend - to use their artwork suggests to the casual reader (which is the majority) that you are them. You thereby impute all of your idiosyncrasies to them. (I have none, of course, so this is not a big deal in my case, but all others here are absolute lunatics.  )
 

Perhaps, to opposers and unscrupulous people that don’t adhere to Caesar’s law much less God’s law, until they find the words “slander” and “defamation” attached to their senseless rhetoric. Even then, a dying atheist wants to believe in a higher being.

They can restrict EVERYTHING.
Copyright law says ..... they cannot.

It’s hilarious when opposers attempt to sway their argument by introducing an “interlinear” to make a point. First, the Bible Students were criticized for relying on the Emphatic Diaglott Bible with the Westcott and Hort interlinear (Vatican Manuscripts), and now, the Watchtower is being criticized for thinking it hasnÂ’t consulted the TR-MSS. No different with what the J.P. Green SR interlinear offers. What will people think of next?

Textual basis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Translation_of_the_Holy_Scriptures

The Greek New Testament Textus Receptus (Stephanus 1550)

Modern Midrash: The Retelling of Traditional Jewish Narratives By Twentieth-century Hebrew Writers SUNY Series in Modern Jewish 1987

Midrash-and-Multiplicity-Pirke-De-Rabbi-Eliezer-and-the-Renewal-of-Rabbinic-Interpretive-Culture-Studia-Judaica-48 2009

Targum and Testament Revisited 2010

The Vatican Manuscript of Spinoza's Ethica (Brill's Studies in Intellectual History) (English and Latin Edition) 2011

 

WhatÂ’s, even funnier the J.P. Green SR, GLT bible, agrees with the NWT in certain text, by using the name of God (Jehovah) NOT (Yahweh) such as in, 2 King 24:1-2

Therefore, an interlinear is as good as its interpretation with the proper context attached to the ancient script. Anything else is meaningless rhetoric.

Masoretic Text 1524

2 Kings 24:1

????? ??? ???????? ??? ??? ???? ?? ??????? ??? ??? ???? ???? ?

24:2        ????? ???? ?? ?? ????? ????? ??? ????? ??? ??? ????? ???? ??? ????? ??? ???? ?????? ?????? ??????? ???? ???? ??? ??? ??? ????? ???????

In his days, Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon went up and Jehoiakim became a servant for three years, and sat down:

24: 2 And Jehovah sent to him the battalions of Gadim, and the divisions of Aram, and the battalions of Moab, and the battalions of the Ammonites, and sent them in Judah to destroy him, as the word of the LORD was spoken by the servants of the prophets.


 
24:2

 

Young's Literal Translation 1862

 

24:1     In his days hath Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon come up, and Jehoiakim is to him a servant three years; and he turneth and rebelleth against him,

24:2     and Jehovah sendeth against him the troops of the Chaldeans, and the troops of Aram, and the troops of Moab, and the troops of the sons of Ammon, and He sendeth them against Judah to destroy it, according to the word of Jehovah, that He spake by the hand of His servants the prophets;

 

Reina Valera 1909

 

4:1

EN su tiempo subió Nabucodonosor rey de Babilonia, al cual sirvió Joacim tres años; volvióse luego, y se rebeló contra él.

24:2

Jehová empero envió contra él tropas de Caldeos, y tropas de Siros, y tropas de Moabitas, y tropas de Ammonitas; los cuales envió contra Judá para que la destruyesen, conforme á la palabra de Jehová que había hablado por sus siervos los profetas.

 

GOOGLE TRANSLATE: Substitutes JEHOVA for LORD. This shows the bias in translation.

24: 1 In his time Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon went up, and Jehoiakim served for three years; He turned then, and rebelled against him.

24: 2 But the LORD sent against him troops of the Chaldeans, and troops of Syrians, and troops of the Moabites, and troops of the Ammonites; and he sent them against Judah to destroy it, according to the word of the LORD, which he spoke by his servants the prophets.

 

 
ALL these translation derive from the TR-MSS. Only a selective few honor God by using his proper name, (i.e. translated in its CORRECT context) and doesn’t hide his name like many bibles out there. Where does that leave that ideology, when applying an interlinear as bases for an argument? But, this also falls in line, when, POPE John Paul II “ordered” the REMOVAL of the Tetragrammaton and use of God’s personal name from all Catholic Churches services.

http://forum.yadayah.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=1230#post7756

https://vn.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130804071545AAj7aHJ

Reprinting ZENIT's articles requires written permission from the editor. http://www.zenit.org/article-23414?l=english (dead-link) Permission, not granted!!

 
Any other disingenuous argument can be scrutinized by the works, like Norman L. Geisler.

Since this forum is hypothetically anything but an academic forum, Copyright rules apply.

 “No portion of this e-book may legally be copied, reproduced or transmitted in any form and by any means, electronic or mechanical.”

A similar clause, the Watchtower has for its printed material.

Copyright

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This website is published and maintained by Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc. (“Watchtower”). Unless otherwise indicated, all text and other information on this website are the intellectual property of Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania (“Watch Tower”).

“But please do not reproduce its contents on another website or application.”

You may not:

·         Post artwork, electronic publications, trademarks, music, photos, videos, or articles from this website on the Internet (any website, file-sharing site, video-sharing site, or social network).

·         Distribute artwork, electronic publications, trademarks, music, photos, text, or videos from this website with or as part of any software application (including uploading such materials to a server for use by a software application).

·         Reproduce, duplicate, copy, distribute, or otherwise exploit any artwork, electronic publications, trademarks, music, photos, text, or videos on this website for a commercial purpose or for money (even if no profit is involved).

 

Therefore, I recommend everyone keep their views of opposition to works that donÂ’t VIOLATE copyright law.

2018 has become a different beast. There are forces out there, which will get, people to start complying with the LAWS of the LAND. No exceptions, LBR, TTH, JTR. This, however, doesn’t apply to “public domain” works. I’m sure you would agree on TTH, you wouldn’t want your published work on an open forum to be butchered by opposers to make irrelevant claims when they don’t have a cognitive understanding of scripture, to begin with. So, why turn a blind eye to the Watchtower publications. I hope people will finally understand the irony why the Watchtower doesn’t attach a name to any of its publications in order to preserve their works from becoming public domain.

In general, works published after 1977 will not fall into the public domain until 70 years after the death of the author, or, for corporate works, anonymous works, or works for hire, 95 years from the date of publication or 120 years from the date of creation, whichever expires first.

An organization is an organized group of people with a particular purpose, such as a business or government department. A corporation is a large company or group of companies authorized to act as a single entity and recognized as such in law. An organization can be a part of a corporation.

https://iclg.com/practice-areas/copyright-laws-and-regulations/usa

https://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap5.html

https://abovethelaw.com/2017/12/its-a-wrap-what-to-expect-from-the-copyright-wars-in-2018/

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/01/copyright-week-2018-join-us-fighting-better-copyright-law-and-policy

 
So, this infamous ideology that JWI keeps suggesting, what is “fair use” will be a thing of the past. So, gear up folks, Web sites are included in this battle. Yes, that also applies to archives of published works without the expressed permission or consent of the owner.

I am sure that if they awoke to just who they are, the rest of the anointed ones in the organization -  may agree with Paul:
 
"Now, brothers and sisters, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying: “Nothing beyond what is written.” The purpose is that none of you will be arrogant, favoring one person over another.  
For I think God has displayed us, the apostles, in last place, like men condemned to die: We have become a spectacle to the world, both to angels and to people.  We are fools for Christ, but you are wise in Christ! We are weak, but you are strong! You are distinguished, but we are dishonored!  Up to the present hour we are both hungry and thirsty; we are poorly clothed, roughly treated, homeless;  we labor, working with our own hands. When we are reviled, we bless; when we are persecuted, we endure it;  when we are slandered, we respond graciously.
Even now, we are like the scum of the earth, like everyone’s garbage." 1 Cor 4:6-13
 
 
 

I was wondering where this post went.  The connection is the announcement about the new GB member.  It seemed necessary that two large pictures of him needed to be posted under that particular thread.  I felt it necessary to remind JWs that there are many potential "faithful and discreet slaves", if only they would wake up and consider Paul's words, and I'll include Matt 25:19-30 also.  
It is interesting that a scripture landed in "controversy".
I know you've got a big job, Librarian.  And I know I don't make it any easier.  Thank you for letting me continue here.

Your comment was referencing an entire group of Anointed ones and not just Kenneth Cook so I felt it should go on it's own thread.
Thank @admin .... not me. ;-)

John4:21 
"Jesus said to her, “Woman, believe Me, the hour is coming when you will neither on this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22 You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews. 23 But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him. 24 God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”
 
Heb.10:14 
"For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified. 15 But the Holy Spirit also witnesses to us; for after He had said before, 16 “This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them," 17 then He adds, “Their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.”
 
John2:18 
"So the Jews answered and said to Him, “What sign do You show to us, since You do these things?” 19 Jesus answered and said to them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” 20 Then the Jews said, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?” 21 But He was speaking of the temple of His body. 22 Therefore, when He had risen from the dead, His disciples remembered that He had said this to them; and they believed the Scripture and the word which Jesus had said.”
 
Jesus was not speaking here of his body of flesh. He said “in three days, *I* will raise it up”. Jesus did not raise up his own body of flesh. (see Rom.10:7,9; Acts 2:32). 
Clearly, it was God who raised Christ from the dead. What “body” and “temple” then, did Jesus himself raise by his death and resurrection? 
The scriptures are clear, that by Jesus’ ransom (Rev.5:9,10), he raised up the anointed (messianic/chosen ones) temple (Eph.2:6;1Cor.3:16; 1Pet.2:5,9; Eph.2:22,21,20; Ps.118:22; John2:19,21; 1Cor.12:27) of his body of 144000 (2Cor.1:21,22; Rev.7:4,3;14:1), the united body of which, each Chosen one, is a member (1Cor.12:12,13,14,20,27). 
 
This is the very same temple, where the Father is worshiped in “Spirit and Truth” (1Tim.3:15; 1Pet.2:5; 1Cor.3:16; 2Cor.6:16;1Cor.6:19); those of the New Covenant who have God’s laws written on their hearts (Heb.10:16; Deut.6:6,8; Rev.14:1). This is the new place of worship, since the death of Christ. With his blood, he bought these chosen ones for God, to be God's priests (Rev.5:9,10), and to be Christ's "bride" (Eph.5:25; Rev.21:9,10).
These are the representatives of the “True Religion” here on earth (2Cor.5:20; 1Cor.4:1; Mal.2:7; John7:18,38; Rev.21:6; 22:17;14:3,5).
 
Jesus did not describe this arrangement of worship as being organized by men into a "religious" organization or corporation (Acts 17:24; Heb.9:11; Eph.2:10), 
but rather, described it as guided by Holy Spirit and Truth (John4:24; 3:8; 16:13,14) under Christ as Head (Eph.5:23). The anointed did not consult and obey, nor were they under the direction of, a "governing body" in Jerusalem (Gal.1:11,12,17,15,16,10; 5:1; 2:4; Rom.6:16; 1Cor.7:23; 2Cor.11:20; Rev.2:20; Col.3:24) or some other man-made hierarchy. They were and are, taught collectively by Holy Spirit (1John2:20,27; John7:38,39; 17:26; Luke 12:12; 21:14,15; Rev.11:5,3,4;Matt.10:27,20; John16:13,14,15; 6:45), through the arrangement of Christ's "body"/"temple" (John15:4,5; Eph.2:20,21,22;1Pet.2:5,9; Mal.2:7), according to the various assignments of it's "parts" (Eph.4:11,12,13; 2:20,21; 1Cor.12:18,28,29,27;Eph.4:11,12). 
As a collective "body" under Christ as Head; it is anointed with spirit, and is thereby sustained by the working of spirit, within it (1John2:20,27; Eph.4:11,12; Rom.12:5; John13:14) (John15:4,5; Rom.11:17; 1Cor.12:6,7).

Paul confirms that he himself was lead directly by Holy Spirit, and not by an arrangement erected by men, atGal.1:10,11,12,15,16,17,18,19,20; Acts 15:8,9,10,36,41; Acts 16:6,7; John16:13; 14:17,26.
For the "body of Christ", Jesus himself is the Head. As his "bride", all the members of his body submit to the arrangement of the parts, according to their order as arranged by Christ and God (Eph.4:11,12; 1Cor.12:28; Eph.4:14,15,16). 
In this way, order and peace are established within Christ's "body" of chosen ones (1Cor.14:12,22,26,29,32,33,37,38,40; 12:18,28;Rom.12:6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13).
The anointed priests are like branches attached to a vine / rootstock (John15:4,5; Rev.22:16; Rom.11:16). What they receive is sourced in Christ, not from men (John15:1,2,3,4,5,6,7,15,16; Eph.5:29; Rom.11:17,18,22; Col.2:2).

Jesus once described the individual members of his body, as "trees". This illustration applies well, because just as a grapevine and its branches produce fruit (John15:5,8); these “trees” also provide “fruit” as spiritual food [Matt.12:33,35; Luke 6:45; <(Heb.13:15; Hosea14:2); Matt.7:17,20; Jer.17:7,8; Ps.1:2,3; Rev.22:1,2; John7:38; Prov.4:23]. 
All the faithful fruitful ones, are dependent upon the sap/holy spirit/living water, coming from the throne/true vine/olive root (Col.2:7; Rom.11:17; John15:4,5; 1Cor.12:13; John 6:63; Luke 8:18). 
If Christ removes holy spirit from an erring chosen one, that tree dries up (Mark 11:14,20,21; Joel 1:12; Mark 4:25; John 15:2,6;Col.2:19; Eph.4:16,11,12).
 
Jesus described the fruit/teachings of the fine, true prophets, as being: SOURCED IN GOD’S WORD (John7:16,17,18; 8:47 a;John17:17; Matt.5:14; Ps.36:9; 1John1:5; Luke 11:35,36; John8:12; 1:4,5,14) and as PROMOTING THE GLORY/Righteousness OF GOD, not self-glory (Matt.6:33). This they could do, due to having God’s Laws written on their hearts, combined with the blessings of insight which Holy Spirit would grant them (1John2:20,27; 1Pet.2:9; Matt.13:11; 1Cor.2:12-14). They receive that spirit through their union with the Head (1Cor.6:17; 2:14; Eph.2:18; John17:23; 14:20) and the harmony with the whole "body" that would result. 
This Chosen Priesthood, serve within God’s spiritual Temple, the "body" of Christ (Rev.3:11,12; 5:10; 7:15; 22:3,4; Mal.2:7;1Pet.2:5,9,10).
 
In more modern times, many of these anointed priests congregated together. They became organized. Of course, Satan was not going to leave their activities undisturbed (Matt.13:24,25,26,27,28; Isa.63:18; Rev.11:2; Luke 22:31). The faithful work of doing God’s will, would always be resisted and opposed; right within the midst of these priests (Acts 20:29,30; 1Tim.4:1;Matt.24:4,5,24,25; 7:15; Rev.13:11; 2Thess.2:4,9; 2Cor.11:12,13; Matt.13:30). Those who form an organized hierarchy outside the body of Christ, help Satan to resist, defy, and malign God's arrangement (Isa.1:21; 1Cor.6:15 B; Rev.17:2,1; 2:20; Rev.18:4;2Cor.6:17)
("Who are the Kings of the Earth?").

Not all anointed will prove faithful (Matt.25:1,2; 22:14). 
Those who prove unfaithful, exchange love for their brothers and for truth, for worldly power and self-serving doctrines of men (John5:44; 1John3:10,11,13,14,15; Rev.17:6; 1John2:15; Rev.2:4; 2Thess.2:10,12; 1Cor.4:8; John7:16,18; Mark7:7; Rom.1:25). Those proving unfaithful, are the very ones who become proud, prominent, powerful, tyrannical, and abusive (Luke 16:8;22:24,25,26,27; 1John4:20; 2:9,11; 3:10,15), and dominate their brothers to their injury (Ec.8:9). 
Where would anointed ones get such power? (Matt.4:8-10; Rev.9:1,3,7; 13:4,11,15)
These unfaithful leave their subjection to Christ, leave unity with the body of Christ as arranged by God, and ally themselves with the power of Gentiles (not anointed), instead (Jer.17:5; Dan.11:31). 
They betray their covenant with God [to have His laws on their heart -Jer.31:33; (*Deut.6:6,8; 11:18)], 
to enter a covenant with Satan 
[Jer.11:9,10,11; Rev.9:1,11; 13:1,4,11,12,15 (*Rev.13:16,17); Rev.17:1,3,5; Isa.28:15] (http://pearl-666.blogspot.com/). 
They leave their confidence in the strength of God (Phil.4:13; Ps.18:2,3), for the worldly advantage and power that come from forming an alliance with those not anointed, and with them, create an Organization.
 
This structural arrangement, (of unfaithful anointed heading up a non-anointed counterfeit priesthood), is a fabrication that stands in defiance of the authentic body/temple/priesthood of God, within which His spirit operates and dwells. It is a "disgusting thing" standing in a holy place...a "man of lawlessness" dominating the body of Christ, usurping Christ's headship over his Bride members.
(Not anointed--spiritual Gentiles --Rom.2:28,29) 
(Jer.17:5,7,13; 11:3,10,11,12; Rev.6:16; 2Chron.32:8; Ps.118:8; Isa.2:22; 30:1; Rev.17:3,7).
This decision to dominate their brothers in Christ by means of the "muscle" of Gentiles, changes their designation from a chaste virgin of Christ 
(2Cor.11:2; Rev.14:4,5; Eph.5:25,26,27; James 1:27; 1John2:15), 

to that of a harlot 
(Hosea 9:1; Jer.5:5; 2:20,19,21; 3:1,2; Isa.1:21; Eze.16:15)....

....from a vessel of truth and life 
(John7:38,39; 1Tim.4:16; 2Cor.4:6,7; Rev.22:17) 

to a vessel of deception and death 
(Jer.2:21; Isa.5:2,4; Deut.32:32,33,15,18,6,16; Rev.13:15,8; Jer.11:17; Rev.14:9,10,18,19; 8:10,11). 

Faithful anointed, are to have nothing to do with these unfaithful leaders (Ps.26:4; Isa.1:21; 1Cor.6:15; 10:21,22; 2Cor.6:16,17,18;Rev.18:4; 2Tim.3:5; Eph.5:11; 2Thess.3:6; Rom.16:17; Mark 13:14).
But not all anointed stay clear of these unfaithful leading harlots (Rev.17:1,2,18,13)

These too desire the stature which only inclusion within a worldly Gentile Organization can offer (Rev.17:2,12,13,17,18,16;1John2:15; John17:16; 8:13,23,37,40,59,42; 15:18; Isa.66:5; John16:2; Matt.24:9,10,11; 10:22). 
The "world" into which Jesus came, was the unfaithful religious system of those in covenant with God. (Matt.15:24; Rom.1:16;Acts3:26) (John1:11; 3:19; 7:7; 8:44; Matt.23:33). 

Just as that part of Satan's "world" (which hated Jesus -John15:18,25), were those unfaithful among God's people...
So too, the unfaithful of God's people today, are also the "world" which hates the faithful 
(John15:18; 16:2; Acts 5:33; Luke 12:45; 1John4:20; 3:12; John7:7; Rev.11:7,10).

To be a genuine faithful ambassador of Christ, means to be rejected, despised and abandoned by that religious part of Satan's "world"...those who have rebelled against their covenant with God, which exact type of hatred and persecution, imitates the path of our Master, Christ (Rev.11:8; John15:18,20; Matt.10:24,25; 12:24; John16:20; 17:14; Matt.23:34; 1Cor.4:1,2,3,9,10,11,12,13;Heb.13:13; Matt.5:10,11,12; 1Pet.2:19,20,21,22,23).
The secular world did not hate Jesus (Luke23:4,14,15; Matt.27:23; John18:36; 19:4,6).
It is those whom the truth condemns, that hate the faithful (Mark 11:18; John7:1; 8:37,40; 11:53; 1John3:12; Jude 1:11;Rev.2:14,16; 2Thess.2:8,4; John3:20; Matt.24:9; 23:27,28,34,35; Rev.18:24; 17:6; Jer.51:49).
The knowledge of who it is that persecutes and "kills" Christ's faithful end-time slaves, must be used to guide our interpretation of Revelation's warring identities, if we hope to understand it accurately.
The “lawlessness” or, lack of Christ’s “law” of love displayed among the unfaithful anointed (John13:34; James 2:8; Matt.7:22,23;24:12; 25:42,43,44,45,41), has manifested itself in the midst of the faithful chosen, right from the start (2Thess.2:7; 1Cor.4:8). It was prophesied to intensify in the last days (Matt.24:12; 7:23; 2Tim.3:1,5,7,13; 2Thess.2:8).
 
Yhwh aptly conveyed, that at the time of the end, when all would face judgment before God’s Throne (Rom.14:12; 2Cor.5:10;Matt.12:36), that there would be a people who would call themselves by His name (Jer.25:29,30; Rev.14:18,19). 
There are many detailed prophecies how this people would fare during God’s inspection and judgment. 
All those prophetic details are becoming clearly manifest in association within the unfolding events of the Organization known as "Jehovah’s Witnesses". Those details include the faithful anointed alongside the unfaithful…the constant scenario and climate which has always existed for the Chosen (Matt.13:30; Gen.3:15). The details of Revelation's symbolic scenarios and symbolic identities are also being fulfilled in association with that religious mountain (Rev.8:8; Zech.4:7).
 
Because the parasitic anointed seek to garnish the blessing being received by the faithful, by exploiting, condemning, and yet capitalizing on their spiritual success and insight (Matt.25:8; Luke16:3; 13:24; John6:27; Matt.25:26); the “True Religion” will always be adulterated by those who cause divisions in the anointed body of Christ, and shame Jude 1:12,13,16,17,18,19. 

Yet part of proving faithful, eventually requires that the faithful divorce themselves from the unclean...those who have been spotted by the world (1Cor.6:15,16,17; Isa.63:18,19; Matt.24:15,16; 2Cor.6:17). But not before they give a warning. 

They will then be cast out, for this simple adherence to truth and subjection to Christ (Matt.10:16; 23:34; John16:2; Rev.11:2,3,7;13:15; 17:6; 6:9,10,11; 12:10,11; Matt.10:16,17,18,19,20,21,22,32,33; Mark 8:35).
At the arrival of the Kingdom, those who exalt themselves will be humbled; and those who have humbled themselves and have continued to provide spiritual blessing in the midst of this persecution, will then be exalted (1Pet.5:6,10; James 4:10; Matt.23:12;2Thess.2:4,8).
The challenge for all those seeking the “True Religion” is to identify the Chosen which are proving faithful. Jesus provided ample direction and instruction to empower us to do so. 
According to prophecy, we must expect that the faithful, will be associated for a time with a powerful organization (of spiritual Gentiles) under the direction of the unfaithful (2Thess.2:4; Dan.7:25; 8:11,12,24,10; Rev.12:4,17; 11:2; 13:7). This is why Jesus illustration of his wicked Steward, points to anointed who are over other anointed (Matt.24:45,48,49,50,51; Hosea 6:5). 

None should oppress, but rather, Jesus appoints such a one, to serve (1Pet.5:1,2,3,4; John13:14,15,16,17). 
Jesus well knew ahead of time, that those proving unfaithful, would be those dominating their brothers without mercy and love (Matt.24:49,12; 7:23), and supporting that position based upon a lie of premature stature of divine approval (Matt.24:48; Matt.25:5; 2Thess.2:1,2,3; 2Cor.11:13; 2Tim.3:13) and the power of organized Gentiles (Wild Beast from the "sea"/"abyss"), who would seem directed by God's spirit/breath, due to the lies of a false prophet (Rev.13:15,14,7; 11:2). 
But these unfaithful leaders would not have enough Holy Spirit to provide the “proper food at the proper time” (Matt.24:45; 25:8;John15:4; Col.2:18-19), but would substitute the truth with their own doctrines (John7:18,17; 8:47), which would empower the Beast/Organization that enforces their own authority (Rev.13:12,14; 9:1,2,3).
Yet the faithful would continue to provide good fruit as fine trees….for the sustenance of any who “received” them (Matt.10:40,41,42; John13:20; 12:48; 15:8) and their sayings/teachings/fruit (Matt.7:20). 
By accepting living water by means of the faithful vessels, (John4:10,14; 7:38; Isa.12:3; 1Tim.4:16; 2Cor.4:7; Matt.5:14,15,16;Rev.22:17), these accepting sheep can exercise faith in Christ according to Truth, and receive that living water's benefits (John17:3; 3:16; 4:14; Matt.10:40,41,42).
“Where is the True Religion – Christ’s Body – God’s Temple”  Pearl Doxsey, 4womaninthewilderness
 
 
 
 
 

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Personally, it was serendipitous to find a video – a “discovery”  - beneficial to further expose Wt’s darkness.
It is apparently acceptable that Russel established 1914 on the measurements of the Pyramid of Giza.   And it is excused that he called it “God’s Stone Witness”.   There are two sides of the coin presented; are you saying one is blessed by God, the other evil? 
If God was setting up an organization to restore true worship, it would not begin with falsehood and several changed dates each taught as facts with divine blessing.   From the outset, the Wt. had its foundation on lies, and lies shift to make room for more lies. Through Russel’s foolishness, the Bible Students were deceitfully misled, no different than today’s Wt. leaders do – continually misleading with mankind’s ideas.  Matt 7:24-27 
Both sides of the coin presented in the video are evil, a reflection of the other. 
I suppose this also has very good excuse and is coincidental
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHgH8KP7uGI
The organization is Satan’s testing ground for the remaining anointed, and all others who fall into his trap.  Spiritual “Israel”/”Jews” are the anointed ones.  Those not anointed are spiritual “Gentiles”.   “Gentiles” stand watch over God’s anointed priesthood in the organization, not for their good but to scrutinize their actions.  Rom 8:29,20; Matt 15:24; 10:6; Rom 9:6-8
“In addition, anointed Christians do not view themselves as being part of an elite club. They do not seek out others who claim to have the same calling, hoping to bond with them or endeavoring to form private groups for Bible study. Wt 16/1
According to Romans chapter 12, 1 Cor chapter 12; Eph 2:21,22; 4:1-8; 5:29, they are to seek out and show loving care for, their fellow anointed ones.  JWs turn away from these scriptures, preferring men’s authority over God’s, just as they prefer men’s choice of “shepherds” over God’s choice.
Who is behind it? I’ve asked before, would God condone the replacement of his own priesthood?  His Temple?  Matt 24:15; 2 Thess 2:3,4;1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22; Rev 11:1-3
Revelation is the book of signs and symbolism (Rev 1:1). John received the letters to the congregations when he was in the Spirit, on the Lord’s Day”, showing there was future meaning concerning the “seven stars and seven churches”. 
"The mystery of the seven stars you saw in my right hand and of the seven golden lampstands is this: The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches.”  Rev 1:20
The lampstands are the congregations of “holy ones”  1 Cor 14:33 
Stars signify messenger/angels with their foundation in the apostles and prophets. Eph 3:4,5; 2:20; Amos 3:7; Rev 10:7
In the Lord’s day, “two witnesses” prophesy truth to their congregations of brothers in Christ. They are the two olive trees of the lampstands.  They serve Christ and are as messenger/angels to their brothers in Christ. Rev 11:1-3; Zech 4:11-14
They shed “light” to the lampstand/congregations – the light of truth.   All anointed ones are to shed “light”, but Revelation 8:10 speaks of a fallen ‘one’ who seduces his fellow servants to believe in HIS lies, rejecting the teachings of the foundation stones of the Temple – the apostles/messengers/angels. 2 Thess 2:1-12; Rev 13:
These “two witnesses” reveal the spiritual immorality committed by genuine anointed ones who move to dominate their brothers in Christ, without mercy. Matt 24:49,12;7:23  All those anointed who go with the flow of the program also remain in a fallen state:
"Remember then how far you have fallen; repent, and do the works you did at first. Otherwise, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place, unless you repent.” Rev 2:5
When a literal star falls, it loses it light – when an anointed one falls, no longer is it held in the hand of Christ as an illuminator in his truth which he shares with those who remain with him.  Rev 22:16   A “Beast from the earth” arises having “two” horns like a lamb – signifying anointed in Christ – but speaks like a dragon; deceit and lies on the tongue.  Rev 13:11 This beast fabricates/breathes life into/ another Beast with help from Satan.  It is a Beast that requires devotion, and organization that is loved.  How many believe it is invincible?   “Who is like the Beast ?  How many believe no one, no entity, can wage war with “Jehovah’s organization?”  Rev 9:1; Rev 13:11,12,14,15,1,2,4,5
Revelation reveals in many illustrative ways, the last two Beasts to come against God’s chosen people.  Satan uses a fallen star/(s) to spearhead his last deceitful ploy against the anointed ones.  Russel did not illuminate truth, but lies.  Rutherford…on down to today’s GB illuminate their own human thinking which is obvious in changed/failed/false doctrine and failed dates.  The organization won’t be restored, although many hope it will;  but only those individual “stars”, living stones of the Temple of God, who listen to Christ’s warnings and respond, will be ‘restored’. Isa 43:1; Zech 4:6-10  Only those who are presently with them and who listen and respond to Christ’s warnings will be saved.
“Write to the angel of the church in Smyrna:  “The First and the Last, the One who was dead and came to life, says:  I know youraffliction and poverty, yet you are rich. I know the slander of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan. 
How does the elder body “Gentiles”/pseudo “Jews”/priests slander God’s anointed people?  By telling them not to meet together, questioning their anointing, disfellowshipping them for serving Christ, and condoning the replacement of God’s anointed priesthood with “Gentile” elders.”
10 Don’t be afraid of what you are about to suffer. Look, the Devil is about to throw some of you into prison to test you, and you will have affliction for 10 days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crownof life. Rev 2:8-11
(Matt 24:21; Rev 7:14) 
“And the Lord said, “Simon, Simon! Indeed, Satan has asked for you, that he may sift you as wheat.”  Luke 22:31
“Be careful that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deceit based on human tradition, based on the elemental forces of the world, and not based on Christ.”  Col 2:8
Every false teaching, every failed doctrine, every failed date in the timeline of the organization is empty deceit, that cannot originate with Christ, although the Wt. boasts Christ is the “Head of the congregation”.  The “faithful and true” Christ, does not have a share in “empty deceit”; not in the Pharisees time, and not in the organization.  Rev 19:11
“Therefore, everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them will be like a sensible man who built his house on the rock.  The rain fell, the rivers rose, and the winds blew and pounded that house. Yet it didn’t collapse, because its foundation was on the rock.  But everyone who hears these words of Mine and doesn’t act on them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand.  The rain fell, the rivers rose, the winds blew and pounded that house, and it collapsed. And its collapse was great!”  Matt 7:24-27
Each of Wt’s leaders has rejected Christ – the rock.  Through their own self-will they boast in their  human thinking; and far from the words of Christ.  Rom 9:33; 1 Pet 2:8 
For those who successfully reject this empty philosophy IN FRONT OF A JUDICIAL COMMITTEE, and uphold only truth in Christ – HIS WORD-, proclaiming to all their anointed brothers and brethren the deceptive lies that Satan holds them to, Jesus says:
“I know your works. Because you have limited strength, have kept My word, and have not denied My name, look, I have placed before you an open door that no one is able to close. Take note! I will make those from the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews and are not, but are lying…
The elder body has adapted scriptures pertaining to the anointed Body of Christ…to themselves, authorized by their rulers, the GB.  Matt 24:48-51; Rev 2:20
“Gifts in men” also help us to “attain to the oneness in the faith.” (Ephesians 4:8, 13) This means that elders help the congregation to stay united. They help us to improve our Christian personality when they work along with us in our service to Jehovah and when they come to us and give us counsel from the Bible.  Wt 12/7/15
JWs, if you truly want to know who the appointed “gifts in men” are, read Eph. 4:11,12 which they cunningly left out.
…—note this—I will make them come and bow down at your feet, and they will know that I have loved you. 10 Because you have kept My command to endure, I will also keep you from the hour of testing that is going to come over the whole world to test those who live on the earth. 11 I am coming quickly. Hold on to what you have, so that no one takes your crown. 12 The victor: I will make him a pillar in the sanctuary of My God, and he will never go out again. I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God—the new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God—and My new name.  “Anyone who has an ear should listen to what the Spirit says to the churches.  Rev 3:8-13
Each anointed one must be found pure and blameless to be accepted into the Kingdom.  2 Cor 11:2; Rev 14:4,5; Eph 5:25-27; James 1:27; 1 John 2:15   If they continue to drink from a cesspool of lies emitted from the mouth of their harlot leaders, they simply will not get there. Rev 17:1,2
To you, dear JTR, whose eyes are almost completely open; I pray you allow Holy Spirit to open them completely.  Rev 3:18  It is time for all JWs to get out of the synagogue of Satan. Rev 18:4-8
 
 
 

You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons. You cannot share in the Lord’s table and the table of demons.  Or are we provoking the Lord to jealousy? Are we stronger than He?  1 Cor 10:21
For nothing is concealed that won’t be revealed, and nothing hidden that won’t be made known and come to light.  Luke 8:17
Now this is the message we have heard from Him and declare to you: God is light, and there is absolutely no darkness in Him.  1 John 1:5
 
 
 
 

scholar JW pretendus wrote:
It's more correct to say that WTS publications are often scholastically dishonest.
Yes indeed! WTS literature provides a rich source for such studies.
Wrong. That practice is known as quote mining. It is a thoroughly dishonest practice of those who have no way of defending their claims aside from dishonesty. It's a practice that young-earth creationists and the Watch Tower Society are especially known for. For example ( https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Quote_mining ):
<< Quote mining (also contextomy) is the fallacious tactic of taking quotes out of context in order to make them seemingly agree with the quote miner's viewpoint or to make the comments of an opponent seem more extreme or hold positions they don't in order to make their positions easier to refute or demonize. It's a way of lying. This tactic is widely used among Young Earth Creationists in an attempt to discredit evolution.
Quote mining is an informal fallacy and a fallacy of ambiguity, in that it removes context that is necessary to understand the mined quote. >>
Another example ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quoting_out_of_context ):
<< Quoting out of context (sometimes referred to as contextomy or quote mining) is an informal fallacy and a type of false attribution in which a passage is removed from its surrounding matter in such a way as to distort its intended meaning. . . Contextomy refers to the selective excerpting of words from their original linguistic context in a way that distorts the source's intended meaning, a practice commonly referred to as "quoting out of context". The problem here is not the removal of a quote from its original context per se (as all quotes are), but to the quoter's decision to exclude from the excerpt certain nearby phrases or sentences (which become "context" by virtue of the exclusion) that serve to clarify the intentions behind the selected words. >>
And a third, which mentions WTS dishonesty: https://jwawaken.com/2016/06/08/what-is-quote-mining/
Still lying about this, eh? We had extensive debates about this years ago, and various posters fully established that the Aid book was lying -- despite your many attempts at rationalizing its quote mining.
The fact that WTS writers dropped it from Insight proves that even they knew the lie was unsustainable.
AlanF

That's true, and we should be glad of it. But you are also talking about a record of what has been said on the forum(s). Remember "evidence"? This isn't the first time you got an idea that was never true, and then even when you quoted the supposed evidence that you still it thought meant one thing, and it turned out that it meant something else entirely, sometimes the very opposite of what you were claiming.

I think you should read what I said again, unless this just another example of blame-shifting or projection. My point was that you seemed to have been exploiting the word "own." As you appear to now admit. You at least understand that it is possible to "exploit" the word. That was my point.

It seems that the Watch Tower Society has finally bowed to the scientific evidence and now admits that evolution is true. Note these frank admissions in Watch Tower publications:
"The Bible is a myth" and "evolution is true".
"Evolution is true".
"Evolution is true . . . evolution is true . . . evolution is true".
"Evolution is true" and "The Bible is myth".
"The theory of evolution is true".
And the history book "Jehovah's Witnesses: Proclaimers of God's Kingdom" has moved the history of the Watch Tower organization back by 100 years, now saying that:
"In [1776], an article written by Charles Taze Russell was published in the magazine Bible Examiner."
"Beginning in about [1776], arrangements were made each year by the Bible Students for commemoration of the Lord’s death."
"Ever since [1776] the year [1874] had been Scripturally identified as a turning point in human history."
Note: this post was composed using "The Scholar JW Manual of Style".
AlanF

Allen,
Imagine there are 100 people in a room and 98 of them say 2+2=4. Two of them say 2+2=5. Who are the opposers? It's not the 98 who are "opposers." It's the two people claiming they have their own "good" reasons to say that 2+2=5, and it might even be a belief that stands alongside some of the best beliefs one can imagine. Still, if they continue to insist that 2+2=5 then those two persons are the more natural opposers. They are the ones who oppose mountains of overwhelming evidence. Sure, the 98 would "oppose" the idea that 2+2=5, but the more natural "opposers" are the two who oppose the facts and evidence.
Another thing is this idea of "their OWN secular history." It's another sign of not thinking clearly. Secular history and the evidence for it is not something that belongs to the people you oppose. It's not their OWN secular history. You are merely referring to the facts and the weight of the evidence available to all of us, you and me, and billions of other people.  It would be more accurate to say that you oppose people who try to sync the secular evidence to Bible chronology. But, of course, this doesn't make sense because both 539 and 607 are secular dates that you and other opposers of the evidence have tried to sync to a version of Bible chronology.
It's a legitimate concern to wonder whether you can sync the non-Biblical chronological evidence with the Biblical chronological evidence. If you can't then you might consider the following options: 
there might be something wrong with your understanding or interpretation of the Bible, or the Bible is wrong, or there might be something wrong with your understanding of the secular evidence, or the secular evidence is wrong, or it is some combination of the four possibilities above. As you know, Thiele for example, did a pretty thorough job matching up the kings of Israel with the kings of Judah with the secular chronology of Assyria, Egypt and Babylon. But he finally got to a couple points where he just said that the Bible must have it wrong. McFall and others take another pass at it, some in defense of the Bible and some in defense of secular evidence. (And some just to improve Thiele's work, in any way they still can.)
But after finding a solution to 99% of the issues, there is a controversy over this 1% that is still unsolved. It feeds a conflict that the secular data is somehow the enemy of the Bible data. Now, any time someone comes up with something that seems to fit a Bible interpretation, they can now get support for it by just claiming that "opposers" to their interpretation are taking the secular data over the Bible. They have made use of a ready-made propaganda tool. Bible vs. Secular. Just by approaching the problem this way, it's obvious who is going to win among Bible believers.
But what happens when those Bible believers look into the data and evidence for themselves and find that there is no conflict at all? In this case the Bible believers are very happy that the secular data corroborates the Bible data. No problem.
But what happens to that key interpretation that was set up as a supposed conflict to the secular data? What if they built a life or religion around that interpretation? They have a couple of choices. They can look at the data and be honest and humble about it and explain that the evidence doesn't seem to support their interpretation. But this doesn't mean they are immediately required to change their belief. They might be able to admit the strength of the opposing data, but still go through each and every bit of it and still explain why they think their interpretation supersedes the data. This might end up being right or wrong, and honest people would appreciate being given the opportunity to make up their own mind. They might still consider the interpretational theory as a strong possibility. At least it's a more honest way to deal with it.
But what would you think if you saw them do the following?
Perhaps they avoid most of the data, avoid trying to explain the differences, and try to keep other people from seeing the data, even pretending that experts agree with them about the data. Any books or websites that consider the data are presented as apostate, poison, cancerous, "spiritually pornography," etc. They can pretend that they have explained all the opposing data by misrepresenting that data. Perhaps there are 12 strong pieces of data and one of them has a weak point, and they deal only with that one weak point and hope no one notices that they ignored or misrepresented the other 11. They can find unrelated quotes that people have said about different sets of data and hope that their listeners don't notice it was unrelated. They can use two sets of scales to be able to utilize pieces of the evidence that they accept, without explaining why those pieces are any better or worse than the pieces they reject.

In addition to @scholar JW's infamous attempts, I have to mention again that the "Insight" book and other Watch Tower publications have also done something just like it many times, even adding bracketed secular dates of their own choosing to contexts discussing secular chronology which are in complete disagreement with the dates the Watch Tower has added:
*** it-2 p. 480 Nebuchadnezzar ***
The inscriptions further show that news of his father’s death brought Nebuchadnezzar back to Babylon, and on the first of Elul (August-September), he ascended the throne. In this his accession year he returned to Hattu, and “in the month Shebat [January-February, 624 B.C.E.] he took the vast booty of Hattu to Babylon.” (Assyrian and Babylonian Chronicles, by A. K. Grayson, 1975, p. 100) In 624 B.C.E., in the first official year of his kingship, Nebuchadnezzar again led his forces through Hattu; he captured and sacked the Philistine city of Ashkelon. *** it-1 p. 1025 Hamath ***
According to an extant cuneiform inscription (British Museum 21946), after the battle of Carchemish in 625 B.C.E. (Jer 46:2), Nebuchadnezzar’s forces overtook and destroyed the fleeing Egyptians in the district of Hamath. (Assyrian and Babylonian Chronicles, by A. K. Grayson, 1975, p. 99) In this same area, a few years earlier, Pharaoh Nechoh had taken King Jehoahaz captive. (2Ki 23:31-33) Then in 607 B.C.E., with the fall of Jerusalem, Zedekiah and other captives were taken to Riblah . . . *** it-1 p. 1267 Jehoiachin ***
It appears that Jehoiakim died during this siege and Jehoiachin ascended the throne of Judah. His rule ended, however, a mere three months and ten days later, when he surrendered to Nebuchadnezzar in 617 B.C.E. (in the month of Adar, according to a Babylonian chronicle). (2Ki 24:11, 12; 2Ch 36:9; Assyrian and Babylonian Chronicles, by A. Grayson, 1975, p. 102) *** it-2 p. 359 Medes, Media ***
Following the Median capture of Asshur in Nabopolassar’s 12th year (634 B.C.E.), Cyaxares (called Ú-ma-kis-tar in the Babylonian records) met with Nabopolassar by the captured city, and they “made an entente cordiale.” (Assyrian and Babylonian Chronicles, by A. K. Grayson, 1975, p. 93) *** it-2 p. 410 Minni ***
. According to a Babylonian chronicle, in his tenth year of reign (636 B.C.E.) Nabopolassar “captured the Manneans who had come to their (i.e. the Assyrians’) aid.” (Assyrian and Babylonian Chronicles, by A. K. Grayson, 1975, p. 91) *** it-2 p. 480 Nebuchadnezzar ***
But a mere three months and ten days thereafter the reign of the new king ended when Jehoiachin surrendered to Nebuchadnezzar (in the month of Adar [February-March] during Nebuchadnezzar’s seventh regnal year [ending in Nisan 617 B.C.E.], according to the Babylonian Chronicles). A cuneiform inscription (British Museum 21946) states: “The seventh year: In the month Kislev the king of Akkad mustered his army and marched to Hattu. He encamped against the city of Judah and on the second day of the month Adar he captured the city (and) seized (its) king [Jehoiachin]. A king of his own choice [Zedekiah] he appointed in the city (and) taking the vast tribute he brought it into Babylon.” (Assyrian and Babylonian Chronicles, by A. K. Grayson, 1975, p. 102; PICTURE, Vol. 2, p. 326) *** it-2 p. 505 Nineveh ***
With reference to Nineveh, a Babylonian chronicle reports: “They carried off the vast booty of the city and the temple (and) [turned] the city into a ruin heap.” (Assyrian and Babylonian Chronicles, by A. Grayson, 1975, p. 94; PICTURE, Vol. 1, p. 958) To this day Nineveh is a desolate waste, and in the spring, flocks graze near or atop the mound of Kuyunjik. Date of Nineveh’s Fall. Though effaced from the extant cuneiform tablet that relates the fall of Nineveh, the date for this event, the 14th year of Nabopolassar, can be supplied from the context. It is also possible to place the destruction of Nineveh in the framework of Bible chronology. According to a Babylonian chronicle, the Egyptians were defeated at Carchemish in the 21st year of Nabopolassar’s reign. The Bible shows this to have taken place in the fourth year of Jehoiakim’s reign or in 625 B.C.E. (Jer 46:2) Therefore, the capture of Nineveh (about seven years earlier) in the 14th year of Nabopolassar’s reign would fall in the year 632 B.C.E. It was almost as if there was a Watch Tower policy stating that whenever a book is quoted that gives evidence of secular chronology, it is almost always necessary to make it look like it supports Watch Tower chronology even when anyone who reads the books in question can easily see that they do not.

@Nana Fofana,
This was addressed to you, @Nana Fofana, but with reference to my own discussions with @AllenSmith on this forum and jw-archive before this one going back 3 years. @Anna has already counseled me on my habit of responding to posts meant for other people, but I think I should make another exception here.
I do happen to know all those discussions quite well, and I can tell you with assurance that AllenSmith is playing a deceitful game with you here, as he tries to do with everyone, Witnesses and non-Witnesses alike. By purposely not being clear, he attempts a kind of plausible deniability each time he is caught. @Arauna pegged him perfectly, if inadvertently, when she said the following in this thread, referring to someone else.
And again, referring to someone else she said the following, which perfectly describes someone who does not care for real scholarship even if one professes it. She also mentions one who won't show the reasonableness to look at all aspects of a subject, and who always goes back to her old arguments even if good arguments are given.
AllenSmith has, indeed, "posed a new theory." He has spoken about it, given several details of it here, and even mentioned here that he has had such a theory published by a ghostwriter for reasons he stated, just two weeks ago.
You can reconstruct some of this thesis by statements that AllenSmith has made about it himself in the last three years. But it is better to ask him of course because there are some seeming contradictions and I'm sure there is much more to the thesis than the portions he has revealed so far.
If he is willing to explain further, I'm sure you will see that it is an interesting theory, but it is also pretty clear that most JWs would see it as doing exactly what AllenSmith has called "deceptive:"
I don't consider his theory deceptive at all, but if he is willing to explain it, I do believe you will see that it contradicts too many Biblical facts. For example, potentially equating Nebuchadnezzar II with Nabopolassar, and making "Nebuchadnezzar the Great" the same as Nebuchadnezzar III might have some coincidental support here and there in later works. (AllenSmith has pointed to the book of Judith and its references to "Nebuchadnezzar" and also a 19th century "typo" in a scholarly work.) But it is not directly evidenced in any contemporary Babylonian artifacts. Also, what does AllenSmith do with the Bible's data that Evil-Merodach followed Nebuchadnezzar in the 37th year of Jehoicachin's exile? This is a fact that perfectly fits the "secular" and "Biblical" evidence, but not AllenSmith's thesis.
(Jeremiah 52:31) Then in the 37th year of the exile of King Je·hoiʹa·chin of Judah, in the 12th month, on the 25th day of the month, King Eʹvil-merʹo·dach of Babylon, in the year he became king, released King Je·hoiʹa·chin of Judah and brought him out of prison. You would have to drastically shorten the reign of "Nebuchadnezzar the Great." This might clarify why AllenSmith tries to discredit the contract tablets, especially the Egibi tablets, too. That's because the Egibi tablets agree with the Biblical chronology, but not the Watchtower chronology or AllenSmith's proposal. As Insight says:
*** it-1 p. 453 Chronology ***
For Awil-Marduk (Evil-merodach, 2Ki 25:27, 28), tablets dated up to his second year of rule have been found. For Neriglissar, considered to be the successor of Awil-Marduk, contract tablets are known dated to his fourth year. By the way, much better examples of this kind of "deceptive spin" in linking WT chronology with secular chronology were found in the first few posts by @scholar JW in this thread, and which matched the first arguments he put forward in a previous thread, too. Here's an example. See if you can see it:
 

The usual gobble-de-goop.
AlanF

So much blah blah blahing without saying anything.
You don't even know your own "proposals" because you have none.
At least, none that can be stated outside your head.
AlanF

Nana Fofana wrote:
Ok.
My compliments! Unlike many JW defenders, who will go to the mat even when they're dead wrong, you have integrity.
Hope you have a great day!
AlanF

Nana Fofana wrote:
Nice try, but no cigar. Here's a small sample of Rutherford's teaching:
 
<< The remnant are instructed by the angels of the Lord. The remnant do not hear audible sounds, because such is not necessary. Jehovah has provided his own good way to convey thoughts to the minds of his anointed ones.(Preparation, 1933, p. 64; The Watchtower, October 15, 1933, pp. 247-8; The Watchtower, September 15, 1938, p. 286) >>
<< Jehovah would employ his power through his angels to put in the minds of his servants to take the course that he would have them take.(The Watchtower, November 1, 1937, p. 326,¶14; 1938 Yearbook of Jehovah's Witnesses, Daily Texts and Comments, February 15) >>
<< Certain duties and kingdom interests have been committed by the Lord to his angels, which include the transmission of information to God's anointed people on the earth for their aid and comfort. Even though we cannot understand how the angels transmit this information, we know that they do it.(Preparation, 1933, pp. 36, 37; The Watchtower, August 15, 1933, p. 243 ¶3; The Watchtower, March 1, 1938 p. 79,¶4) >>
<< Angels are delegated by the Lord to convey his instructions to the members of his organization on earth. Just how this is done is not necessary for us to understand.(The Watchtower, December 1, 1933, p. 364) >>
<< Without a doubt the Lord uses his angels to cause the truth to be published in The Watchtower... Certainly God guides his covenant people by using the holy angels to convey his message to them.(The Watchtower, February 1, 1935, p. 41) >>
<< No man can properly interpret prophecy, and the Lord sends his angels to transmit correct information to his people,.... The Greater Gideon [Jesus] does not begin the Armageddon battle until the message of truth from Jehovah God concerning the same is transmitted by his angels to the faithful remnant on the earth.(The Watchtower, February 15, 1935, p. 52,¶7, 8; 1935 Yearbook of Jehovah's Witnesses, Daily Texts and Comments, November 13. See further, The Watchtower, July 1, 1938, pp. 199, 200,¶24, 25; 1939 Yearbook of Jehovah's Witnesses, Daily Texts and Comments, June 22; J.F. Rutherford, His Vengeance, 1934, p. 6) >>
These are direct claims of inspiration.
AlanF

Nana Fofana wrote:
Of course, but if you want to make a point, you need to argue for that point, and cite enough evidence -- like source references -- to prove it.
<< In the 23rd year of Neb·u·chad·nezʹzar, Neb·uʹzar·adʹan the chief of the guard took Jews into exile, 745 people. >> -- Jer. 52:30
Do you believe the Bible or not?
Not necessarily. The WTS's claims notwithstanding, many scholars agree that Judah was not completely devoid of inhabitants after Jerusalem's destruction. And the Bible itself says nothing about captives being taken from Egypt in Nebuchadnezzar's 23rd year -- it only says that Jews were taken into exile. Therefore it is pure speculation to say where those Jews were taken from.
AlanF

Nana Fofana wrote:
I know from dozens of their own statements in WTS literature that they claim to speak for God. J. F. Rutherford, for example, wrote many times that angels inspired him. Would you like me to cite examples?
And of course, if you consider yourself a loyal JW, the Governing Body requires you to accept their words as being equivalent to God's words. Again, do you want me to cite such demands from WTS literature?
Well actually they talk out both sides of their mouth at the same time, so it's understandable that you would be a bit confused. But yes, they do literally claim to speak for God. That's what "theocratic rule" literally means.
     
Yes, they do. Would you like me to prove it, using WTS literature?
They deceive the JW community about their teachings. They allow that the earth and universe could be as old as science says -- 4.55 billion years old for the earth and 13.7 billion for the universe. But they have long taught that animal life was created just 20,000 years ago -- not the ~600 million years that science shows.
You don't believe me? I encourage to do your own research in WTS literature. You'll find that the Watch Tower Society nowhere teaches, or even admits, that animal life is more than 20,000 years old.
I can easily cite dozens of WTS statements proving this, but you'll do much better to figure this out for yourself.
AlanF

For Nana Fofana,
Nana, I'm afraid you're very confused about the timeline of the period 609 BCE onward through about the end of the Babylonian empire, so I'll give a brief timeline of the most accepted secular history.
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609: Nabopolassar's 17th year, Assyrian empire ends at the battle of Harran, Jehoiakim's accession year
605: Nabopolassar's 21st year, Nebuchadnezzar's accession year, battle of Carchemish, first siege of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar, 1st deportation where Daniel and other elites taken captive to Babylon (this deportation possibly occurred in 604), Jehoiakim becomes vassal to Nebuchadnezzar
602/601: Jehoiakim rebels against Babylon, Jehovah sends marauder bands against Judah
598: Nebuchadnezzar besieges Jerusalem, Jehoiakim is killed, Jehoiachin becomes king for 3 months
597: Jehoiachin surrenders, 2nd deportation where Jehoiachin and many others taken to Babylon, Zedekiah's accession year
589: Babylonian forces besiege Jerusalem
587: Nebuchadnezzar's 18th year, Jerusalem destroyed, many more captives taken in 3rd deportation
582: Nebuchadnezzar's 23rd year, 4th deportation of captives
562: Nebuchadnezzar dies, Evil-Merodach's accession year
539: Babylon falls to Cyrus, Cyrus' accession year
538: Jews released, return to Judah
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This timeline agrees almost exactly with that given by Oded Lipschitz.
Now, AllenSmith has claimed many times that Carl Olof Jonssson (COJ) in his various editions of "The Gentile Times Reconsidered" stated that only TWO Jewish exiles occurred. But this is false, as I've shown by actual quotations that COJ described at length in various parts of his books that Jews were taken captive in 605/604, 597, 587 and 582. Clearly, AllenSmith is lying, because various people have corrected him many times.
The dates of exile stated in AllenSmith's link ( https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/exhibits-events/tablets-of-jewish-exiles/ ) are 604, 597 and 587 B.C.E. The 604 date reflects the uncertainty between it and 605, as mentioned above. The Bible gives no details about the exile of 582 aside from the number of Jews taken, so many historical narrators fail to mention it, since it is not entirely clear where the exiles came from.
With the above information in view, I'll go on to some comments on your post.
Well then, you should make sure that your information is correct, or not bother to comment at all. And you should say exactly what you mean, or what you agree with.
Then you should have said that. Furthermore, had you been reading all the posts on this matter -- if you have not, then why are you even commenting? -- you would have seen that several times I showed exactly where AllenSmith's claims about COJ and a host of other things were out and out falsehoods.
He has no idea what he's talking about, and spouts gibberish, so it's impossible to know what he really means.
     
See how confused you are? The discussion was restricted to the exiles in 605/604, 597 and 587. Nothing was said about the exile of 582. Anyone familiar with WTS chronology knows perfectly well that they claim THREE exiles -- 617, 607, and 602 -- but your citation from the Insight book only explicitly mentions the first (it does not give the date, which is given elsewhere in WTS literature). Your citation says nothing about Jeremiah 52:30.
AlanF