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I’m glad you finally admit, what a false prophet you are. I agree with your assessment that you alone can mislead more JW’s than 8 men. The good thing, those 8 men don’t have the support of Satan, much as you do, witness.

I see you still try to impress everyone by your long post. When will you and JWinsider learn, expanding your comments weakens your position of not applying scripture in a manner consistent to Christ teachings. Misrepresenting Watchtower literature is so last, year.

With your comment, you condemn Christ. You crucify him once again, and for what. As you stated, to mislead more JW’s.

I framed it for prosperity. I assume you will try to clean what is actual truth in your statement. Let, Pearl know she needs to get better students.

Since you entered Psalms 140:1, what danger do you feel those 8 men pose to you that you alone pose to yourself? Keep in mind, the context here is “prayer for rescue”, not exactly the same as in Matthew about fruits of the tree.

Matthew’s context that you submitted has to do with, knowing them by their fruits. Matt 7:15-20

So, who is them? Are you them? What fine fruits can you bear with hate in your heart?

 In 2 Corinthians 4:1-4 Paul is making a distinction between the “light of Christ gospel” “A treasure in Clay jars” “Treasure in earthen vessels”

So, what fine gospel of Christ can be compared to the disdain you harbor for your fellow humans, especially those you hate, the 8 men? What kind of pearl of wisdom can be applied by your standards, that others would be willing to accept?

How does this comparison give you a sustainable argument against the 8 men you so hate?

You must be confused TTH. I know the parrot is you. I don't think you would "BAN" yourself, unless you feel you need to do it in order to confuse people or make a deceptive point. I've known that Parrot since Jehovah's Witness dot net when you spoke harshly about the Watchtower.
So, try to keep your deceptive story straight. You will make a better storyteller. But, I will agree, I have been banned because of people like you, Anna, JWinsider, JTR. People that are far from being witnesses. So, I don't see why you argue with "witness" another false prophet, when you should be, agreeing with her.
I don't see the need to continue being deceptive about whom the Admin and the Librarian is. Who the old hen is. That boat sailed long ago when you gave up that info by trying to computer hack a member of my group.
Therefore, stop trying to be cute and witty, you're no better a liar than, JWinsider.
Ban me again!

True,  but I do not go beyond what is written in the bible.  NEVER!  If we are to meditate on things in the bible, we definitely will come up with insights that are not broadly accepted but this does not mean it is wrong to speculate.  .... or wrong to see a new insight.  Even Angel's wish to peer into these things.  
I see what is in the bible and what is in the world and make a connection.   I see what is in the bible about scientific subjects and  make a connection with what I know or have read.... it has enriched my thinking and love for the truth.
I have prayed about this..... that jehovah chastize me if I am moving in a wrong way...... I am ready to be corrected. ...... running ahead can be like spiritism.... so it is something to be careful of...... show caution..... on the other hand I do think things are moving in certain directions in the world and I think think things are moving fast. 
I do not "bend" scriptures as I have seen some do here. 
 

In this case, YES! I think you should know the difference between the word "insult" and the word "rebuke".  Without TTH having to insult people instead of rebuking opposers would be the understanding. I didn't know I needed to spell it out to anyone here. But, I'll make an exception in your case.

I understand the power you have. You must be confused on whom the bad ones are. Try a little honesty.

 

Keep blowing hot air as you normally do. I don't pay attention to insane people.

This YouTube community has been around since 2014. What would they know what did or didn’t happen back in the 70s.

The fact they are not JW's nor claim to be apostates just gives more credence to them being “born again” with an intellectual substance of zero.

“This channel is created by a non-Jehovah's Witness - never was a member - no "apostate" - with a view to help Jehovah's Witnesses in keeping with God's counsel through the Apostle John at 1 John 4:1. The aim is not simply to point out the errors and false prophecies of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, but to point to a better alternative - chiefly, Jesus Christ.”

The enlightenment is, it takes an opposer to support other opposers, while claiming to be representing Jesus Christ. Especially when using 1 John 4:1 to advance their agenda. Why don’t opposers consider, that very text can be applied to them in a manner that does reflect the words of Christ? By refusing to honor Christ other instructions. 2 Timothy 2:23-25

The good thing, Bro Splane is the narrator not the storyteller. The inspirational story is told by former members that actually witnessed and participated on that event. Firsthand knowledge goes further than secondhand guessing. I guess “Winston” forgot to apply 1 John 4:1 to himself. Especially when he wants to manipulate the narrative as though “all” witnesses were talking and waiting for the world to end in 1975, when the Watchtower publications are printed in advance. That means, the Watchtower and Awake had already been printed for 1975 as a normal function of the Watchtower.

This video is truly a disgusting video plagued with speculation.

This is why, when something new is found that can educate the public just like how “Jesus” looked like, it would be disingenuous for a witness to speculate what Jesus really looked like.

The Early church fathers and early paintings depict Jesus as white, blonde hair, blue-eyed individual. Now science is saying Jesus was a dark, brown hair, brown eyed individual. Who is correct?

We know where Jesus was conceived, the people in that community; were lighter skin than your average Middle Eastern. The Iraq Jew is lighter in complexion by comparison.

To suggest, one appearance is wrong, can be applied to those that falsely follow the same determination of suggesting earlier Christians should know better.

I wonder how those that criticize the Org. Before they joined the Org didn’t imagine Jesus looking just like he has been depicted for centuries.


At what point can modern investigations conclude, all ancient portraits are wrong by today’s standard for the ancients, to have corrected their works back then?

I hope you understand the difference between the Bible Students and JW's. The fact there are witnesses combining the two doesn't mean there are no differences in doctrine. That just means those witnesses are conflicted.
You just said a mouth full. Does this mean Jesus was wrong to commission the apostles? Does this mean Jesus was wrong to appoint the 70 men? Do you “reject” the words in scripture about leaders? Did God’s commission stop just because you don’t like a certain group? Are other Christians following the letter of Christ instructions and God’s commands?

Can you provide how "exactly" Jesus looked, that I may be able to make the same claim. The  Org under the direction of JW's did make some changes in view from the early portraits and depictions of Jesus. Historical insight has Jesus seem a lot darker. This does not mean where Jesus was born weren't lighter skinned people.

Perhaps if you become more familiar with the Watchtower history, you will find, when Rutherford was imprisoned by the behest of the Catholic Church, Bro. Rutherford developed a pulmonary problem in prison. His doctor urged him to live in a clearer climate. Many brothers that considered Rutherford not just an insightful person but a friend as well, built Beth-Sarim for Brother Rutherford. Not the Watchtower, NOT Rutherford.
Your speculation then, becomes impractical. Now if you are suggesting how Brother Rutherford personally "felt" if one day the ancient prophets would suddenly walk on this earth once again? He would offer his house to have them feel welcomed just as those in ancient times offered their homes to weary travelers, I would offer my home for the same reason.

I would say, neither did Rutherford. Just because he wrote how he felt doesn’t mean it was made to be a doctrine.

It was meant to be inspirational. The kind of difference not taken into account by anyone here. I suspect no one here has a good grasp of the Org history. I would say, only those that taunt and display “dishonesty” usually chime in to in other words, misunderstood person. But it doesn't surprise me at all.

How can this not be applied to you or Srecko, Matthew and any other opposer? You have just answered yourself with the embodiment of bidding Satan's work.
Meaning, opposers here are their own worst nightmare.

Yes- you are judging historical sayings it by modern standards and expect perfection. 
All I know is there is no other religion teaching the name of Jehovah all over the earth.
Other Christian denominations believe in the immortality of the soul and believe that Jesus did not put his soul in death (Isaiah 53) . Hence they really do not believe that Jesus really died for all......and only after death  Jesus received immortality as a reward for his faithfulness to his father.
They do not understand that the kingdom will be a real government which will restore the earth......and we should be politically neutral. Most Christian's are quick to vote and grab their guns.... There are tons of other basic teachings which only JWs teach which are crucial to have a good understanding of what God and jesus did for us, so we can build a good relationship with God.  Thanks to the continued preaching efforts of JWs, I learnt the TRUTH.
Whatever the human flaws of our brothers 80 years ago or even 100 years ago, I always remember that Jehovah used Israel in his purpose and they were for sure also a bunch of imperfect men....... why ..... groups of men constantly thought they were better than Moses - and paid the penalty...... similar to what you are constantly doing.  
Moses did not realize that his son should have been circumcised - his wife saved the son's life.  Moses did not know all even though he was the mediator of the new covenant and went into the mountain.  He came back with his face shining, saw the glory of Jehovah as transmitted by angels.  He was also flawed and made mistakes...... 
You only focus on the mistakes and not the undeniable  truths that are taught by JWs. You use the bible and history as a misleading weapon.  I have seen your writings...... you do not fool me.  Nothing honest there but an accuser of our brothers day and night.   
 
 

This just proves who the owners really are. Thank you.
Some of us now know who the real Admin and Asst Admin are, TTH, and JWinsider. Some of us also know TTH gives JWinsider the position to "delete" people that are being honest and disagree. You can lie to the people some of time but you can't escape the inevitable when both of you start Instant messaging to get someone banned.
This just means the jokes on both of you.

On the internet, the above list can be a lot bigger. Satan has had a good control over apostates. Then again, it wouldn't be the end of days without them, would it. If he has influence here, there is no stoppage in those groups.

1.       Silent-Lamb

2.       Advocates for Jehovah’s Witness reform on blood (AJWRB).

3.       Barbara Anderson’s own website. The most evil female ever to enter Bethel only to choose fame. Fame that never happened. I mentioned it, since I didn’t see her website on the list.

4.       The Catholic Church. It includes the majority of traditional churches.

5.       Friends of Jehovah’s Witnesses (Formerly known as the Jehovah's Witness reform movement).

Many, Many more. Including some here.

it is subjective to turn things around by the opposition. You made a concrete statement. The Org is not, the visible organization even though the proof is with the increased proclamation of Jesus's words to preach the good news. Actions.
You have the opportunity to show that proof without conjecture and speculation that is part of the opinion. I'll ask again, show that absolute proof, the Org does not favor the Almighty.
Then, you refuse to answer how the ancient prophets were seen as well. I also made it a point for you to show just cause without being self-serving, and that is exactly what you did.
I will not continue a thoughtless debate.

Does this mean the ancient prophets were not sent by God to speak on his behalf? Does that mean Jesus rejected the temple?
Interesting concept. Does this mean you have “proof” The Watchtower is not God’s visible organization?
Please provide that proof. Does this mean that the apostles were not part of Christ’s plan because they saw physical evidence of God’s Holy Spirit even though they never personally saw God?
If the Pope believes he has the spirit of God?
If you believe you have the spirit of God?
By this conjecture, both of you would be false prophets with, speculation.
How do you counter such bible discrepancy without adding to scripture as it has been done to mislead the public. Revelation 22:18-19
I believe the actions and "works" spoke in favor of God's Holy Spirit. What works do you believe the Org is not providing without being subjective, objective, speculative, using conjecture, being biased, and self-serving?

It's good to admit your part of a team, and that team are fakers that don't speak for the Org. But instead against it. I'm hopeful people can now experience the truth about your team here. Thank you for your honesty. It was a long time coming.

I can see this comment does not conform to the "banned" post submitted earlier. I proof is on the actions that people seem to dominate. This is a good example of Hollywood drama, where the Oscar goes to?

I can see where this statement would be given to sway the insight of others. It would certainly be beneficial to your team and JWinsider, as being portrayed by your time as such.
The worldwide Brotherhood has seen one of our own team removed after experiencing the communication between you and JWinsider. It is not a question of whom, but the legitimacy of this open forum that falls into question.

Can there be a difference with an invisible being as our sovereign lord Jehovah that we are his witnesses thereof, with that of being a witness to the many miracles made by Jesus as a man.


I can’t see the logic with this kind of thinking. Especially when someone judges another as a newbie. Perhaps it’s time to get back on track with the original post.

I would imagine Brother Russell would have appreciated your stance on consecrated ground. Does that mean we should revere all churches as the Holy of Hollies places of God?

If false religion is not speaking in accordance to Jesus instructions, what Holy does that place hold. When Matthew spoke of an incident about Jesus in 21:12-13, it is clear Jesus meant that a house of God would not be treated as a place of business. It would be used as a dedication for prayer. Had Jesus thought the ground he walked on was consecrated ground, he would have made it a point that only the line of the royal priesthood could enter such a place and those selling inside would have “defiled” the house of God and would be, deserving of death.

The same circumstances that is used for the inference of the Holy land. Millions have died to retain that land. It holds three religious beliefs in modern time. Christianity, Islam, and Judaism. If that land is so sacred, why is there still bloodshed in its footsteps?

A place dedicated for such a gathering is called a house of prayer. Any building can be christened for such a purpose.

Scripture does not reveal a brick and mortar building as the “church” of Christ. That church is the body of Christ. Its members are temples (Bricks) and the mortar is “God’s Holy spirit” keeping those bricks together.

It is unconscionable to think ex-witnesses have influenced regular witnesses to such a degree that it has a profound impact as to think otherwise with Bible Truth.

It’s disheartening to see Christian maturity set aside for an inconstant debate.

I hope you understand the difference when holding a business in the temple. Were those money boxes circulated as a business? What would donations be in your eyes?
Does the Org use donated money to receive luxury items like planes, trains, boats? Do those donations support priest income and a home for that priest?
Some witnesses consider the Org headquarter as lavish. Should volunteers be housed in the field? Should the Org spend more in room and board paid to other benefactors because “bad” witnesses want to decide how the Org should, run?
Does the GB live in lavish mansions? Do those donations go to a 10 million dollar home like “Joel Olsteen” received, and have children sent to a good college with that donated money.
There are many ways those in opposition look at things to enhance a fruitless debate.
Joel Olsteens car
Featured snippet from the web
Joel Osteen - is an American televangelist based in Houston. He likes luxury car and has in his car collection this cars: Ferrari 458 Italia, Porsche 911, Mercedes G-class
 
It is clear what you are willing to accept is not the truth.
 

I hope you understand the difference when holding a business in the temple. Were those money boxes circulated as a business? What would donations be in your eyes?
Does the Org use donated money to receive luxury items like planes, trains, boats? Do those donations support priest income and a home for that priest?
Some witnesses consider the Org headquarter as lavish. Should volunteers be housed in the field? Should the Org spend more in room and board paid to other benefactors because “bad” witnesses want to decide how the Org should, run?
Does the GB live in lavish mansions? Do those donations go to a 10 million dollar home like “Joel Olsteen” received, and have children sent to a good college with that donated money.
There are many ways those in opposition look at things to enhance a fruitless debate.
Joel Olsteens car
Featured snippet from the web
Joel Osteen - is an American televangelist based in Houston. He likes luxury car and has in his car collection this cars: Ferrari 458 Italia, Porsche 911, Mercedes G-class
 
It is clear what you are willing to accept is not the truth.