Patiently waiting for Truth

1 Corinthians 12 : 12 & 13 For just as the body is one but has many members, and all the members of that body, although many, are one body, so too is the Christ. 13 For by one spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink one spirit. THIS IS THE ANOINTED 1 Corinthians 12 : 18 But now God has arranged each of the body members just as he pleased. THIS IS STILL THE ANOINTED The whole of that scripture is about the Anointed. I'm sorry that JWs don't have the spiritual wisdom to understand that.

Unfortunately this comment of Mr Harley's shows that he has a serious problem in his life, and that problem is not me. Here is what i said. Plain for everyone to see. All that Tom mentions is the world Leaders, not the ordinary people living their daily lives. And i never even mentioned trying to 'patch up the world' as Tom suggests. As for the Doomsday clock, it belongs to Men, not GOD. Only GOD knows the day and the hour, but Men still pretend to know.

It that like the Leaders of the Watchtower repeating predictable response patterns about the 'last part of the last day' and the 'oh so close to the end' and the 'you must be a JW to be saved'. Is that because they have chosen themselves as their own root. Yes, seems to make sense now.

With something snide ? Yes Tom, that say's it all

What is funny @César Chávez is that you talk about " living a Christian life was too hard and not what you expected, because you lost certain human freedoms, especially those practiced in today's world of debauchery? " But when some one turns that full circle and mentions that the JW org is full of immorality, you don't like it. This whole JW thing about the whole world being wicked, is wrong. The idea that everyone who is not a JW is part of a wicked world, is wrong. The idea that JWs can be neutrel but no one else can, is wrong. I'm sure there are many people that are not JWs but are good honest people with good moral standards. I think this scripture is very important. Romans 2 from v 14 For when people of the nations, who do not have law, do by nature the things of the law, these people, although not having law, are a law to themselves. 15 They are the very ones who demonstrate the matter of the law to be written in their hearts, while their conscience is bearing witness with them, and by their own thoughts they are being accused or even excused. 16 This will take place in the day when God through Christ Jesus judges the secret things of mankind, according to the good news I declare. This is talking about people in the 'world' that you and others accuse of being so wicked. But by being pure of heart they prove they have God's law written in their hearts. And that has nothing to de with being a JW.

I would just like to say I forgive you all for your nastiness toward me. It is unfortunate that you people calling yourselves Christians should act in this way, but ......... With all the going on we all know that God's 'name' in English is YHWH. The funny thing is, this is one of the first things I learnt as a young man studying the Bible with JWs. We are of course a long way off topic. Something i was constantly being told off for. But I accept that JWs will always side track when they don't like a topic. Have a good day. Matthew 6 : 14 & 15 “For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you; 15 whereas if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Are you saying that Yahweh is not English, or Yehowah. Who's to say what is English ? After all it is YHWH. Surely by changing the letters you are changing the true meaning ? Can you honestly say that the meaning is not changed. And how would you honestly know without the gift of Holy Spirit. Just because some scholar says this or that. Wheras if that scholar said something else you would say they are not guided by God.

You are so funny. You NEED to be told what name to use by MEN. A name that was invented by MEN. A name that was invented without the guidance of Holy Spirit. But you put your faith in MEN. I hope that God through Christ will forgive you.

Is this person guided by God's Holy Spirit ? Are they a JW ? Can you be sure they are guided by God's Holy spirit ? Oh dear, but you put your trust in earthling men.

The reason is that GOD'S TRUE name IS NOT KNOWN. Whereas you choose to follow men who tell you what name you must use. And Almighty God's name is far more important than any other name because it has a far more important meaning. But when the True Anointed are revealed by God through Christ, then maybe they will, through the power of Holy Spirit, tell us God's true name. But then maybe those of the Earthly class will not be told. You see xero, the True Anointed are far more important than the Earthly class in God's eyes, so you just need to relax and be humble and wait for God through Christ to give guidance.

So, JWI is almost saying here that Zalkin has over 100 CSA cases against Elders and Minsterial Servants. Thank you JWI, you have just proved a point, which @TrueTomHarley constantly denies. Tom says it is rank and file that commit CSA. JWI is proving it is Elders and MS. Zalkin is a top lawyer. He would only take cases he can prove.

Yes it's called being a JW.

Now that is funny, coming from a so called JW that belongs to an immoral Org.

You keep playing the same old record. But your old record does not give any proof of how Almighty God wants His name pronounced in any language. Only with Holy Spirit can God's true name be known, but you JWs no longer believe in God using His Holy Spirit. You rely on Men's words to teach you.

Well, don't you JWs pretend to know God's view on things. You even pretend to know 'the day and the hour' of Armageddon.

Oh dear @TrueTomHarley and @xero , two bullying elders or ex-elders, showing their true colours as the bullys they are. When i was a JW I was humble enough to use the name for God that i was TOLD to use. But now i am not under that pressure from the Elders or others. Therefore I call God, Almighty God or Heavenly Father, becaue I personally do not know the true pronunciation of God's name. From my standpoint I am again being humble as i do not want to insult Almighty God. It is only you bullies that wish to insult me. It shows your lack of love, that love which Jesus spoke of, even to love your enemies. You are showing the true colours of Elders in the JW Org, and I thank you for doing so. You show your domineering attitude and your judgement of others.

A young brother that commited adultry (possibly with the wife of an elder) if i remember corrrectly. You said the young man needed help but instead was completely shunned and turned out of Bethel. He then commited suicide, and i think you said he jumped in front of a train.

BUT you are quick enough to judge people and to say horrible things about them tom.

Yes it says that ex-JWs question the use of a man made name. When in truth it is YHWH.

God indeed had YHWH put into HIS word. But HE did not have the name Jehovah put anywhere.

Oh dear Tom. You moan at CC for his insults, but here you are no different. Why would i use the term ALMIGHTY GOD, if i did not know the God was ALMIGHTY ? Jesus has been given 'all authority' but he is still in subjection to the ONE that gave Jesus the authority.

Almighty God's true name YHWH has a very serious meaning and therefore should not be misrepresented by man's interpretation. The Leaders of the Watchtower / JW Org are not inspired of God's Holy Spirit so they do not know the true pronuctiation of God's name in any language. You know yourself that the letter J didn't even exist. So the closest you could get is Yehowah for YHWH. Or Yahweh of course. But your Org relies on the words of Men. Men who are not inspired of God's Holy Spirit.

I think the clue is in the AL as in ALMIGHTY GOD. The name JWs use is a man made name, and is not God's real name. YHWH does not spell Jehovah. But you can insult Almighty God by using it if you wish. It's strange that your Leaders will believe MEN when it suits them. Only under inspiration of Holy Spirit will God's true name be known. And your Leaders do not have that inspiration.

TOM SAYS : Here you go in exactly the opposite direction as you draw on the pandemic. Someone please explain to Tom that, One is spiritual, the other is physical.

A child raies in that environment is probably dictated to by their parents and told to do those things. That is what the article is saying. We've even read on here about a GB member saying with hold things from children unless they do such and such, including baptism. Meaningful religion ? Forcing children to serve MEN. Forcing children to do ministry even if they do not believe, what they have to tell others. Having read reports online, which yes i do believe, about teenagers that left home as soon as they were able, because they had been overly controlled by their parents. Especially if dad was an Elder. Because Elders have to prove a point by displaying their children as 'perfect little JW's'. Not to mention those that have done the complete opposite. Adultry in congregations is well known. Elders running off with the lady they study with. Child Sexual Abuse. to name but a few. Stop living in a dream world tom, see the truth of the Watchtower / JW Org.