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@Kosonen You are entitled to that opinion.

The lack of spirituality here is very sad. JTR Jr talks about money. Arauna talks about adultery. Whereas the Bible talks about spiritual matters. Matthew 24 v 48 - 49 48 “But if ever that evil slave says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying,’ 49 and he starts to beat his fellow slaves ... This isn't talking about physically beating someone, this is about one part of the slave class spiritually bullying or putting down their Fellow Slaves. And as I mentioned :- @TrueTomHarley Still says that no one can disfellowship the GB. So this 'evil slave' can spiritually bully their fellow slaves, and no HUMAN in the CCJW or W/t can stop them. The clue lies in the word HUMAN.

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/jesus-sacrifice-ransom/ How Is Jesus’ Sacrifice “a Ransom for Many”? Payment. The Bible says that Christians were “bought with a price.” (1 Corinthians 6:20; 7:23) That price is the blood of Jesus, with which he “bought people for God out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation.”—Revelation 5:8, 9. Can we please take a look at this little quote from a JW Org page. Link is above for reference. It looks all good doesn't it ? But is it in fact deceiving ? It's the bit that I've highlighted in RED. It's a part quote from a scripture, AND, it is where I say that JW Org misuses scripture. Lets look at the Revelation scripture Ch 5 v 8, 9 BUT also include verse 10. When he took the scroll, the four living creatures and the 24 eldersk fell down before the Lamb, and each one had a harp and golden bowls that were full of incense. (The incense means the prayers of the holy ones.)l And they sing a new song, saying: “You are worthy to take the scroll and open its seals, for you were slaughtered and with your blood you bought people for God out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, 10 and you made them to be a kingdomp and priests to our God,q and they are to rule as kings over the earth.” In the top sentence ( marked as 1. Payment ) the GB / Writing department of CCJW / Watchtower make it look as if the Revelation scripture referenced is talking about ALL Christians. BUT, if we look at verse 10, we can see that it is talking only about the Anointed. How ? Because it says those ones are to rule as kings over the earth.” So, Jesus was slaughtered and with his blood he bought Anointed Ones from every tribe and tongue and people and nation, Do people fully understand this ? These ones eat the flesh and drink the blood of Christ. John 6 v 53 - 56. So Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in yourselves. 54 Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has everlasting life, and I will resurrect him on the last day; 55 for my flesh is true food and my blood is true drink. 56 Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood remains in union with me, and I in union with him. When Anointed ones are resurrected to heavenly life they have no further testing, because they have eaten the flesh and drank the blood of Christ and they are in union with Him. Whereas, the Earthly class do not eat and drink those things, so the ransom has not yet paid the price for them. Therefore the Earthly Class will get a testing at the end of the Thousand Years. Only on passing that test will the ransom of Christ pay the price for them and then they will 'come to life'. I feel these are not my words, but God's. I have never thought of myself as inspired but if i can be of use to God through Christ, then may that take place according to God's will.

@Arauna says there is no hierarchy in the CCJW. @TrueTomHarley says NO ONE can disfellowship the Governing Body. Can you see the contradiction here. @Arauna says the GB are the 'slave' BUT :- From 1927 until 2012, this faithful and discreet slave was interpreted as all anointed Jehovah’s Witnesses. (see Jehovah’s Witnesses – Proclaimers of God’s Kingdom, p.626) BUT :- Since July 15 2013, Jehovah’s Witnesses have been told – and now believe – that the “Faithful & Discreet slave” is their governing body only. Confirmation of this fact is found in The Watchtower July 15 2013 page 21, paragraph 10: This relates to Matthew 24 v 48 - 49 48 “But if ever that evil slave says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying,’b 49 and he starts to beat his fellow slaves ... The reason that the (GB) evil slave says that " My Master is delaying " is because the ( GB ) evil slave have been concerned about the exact time of Armageddon. They have been predicting the 'time of the end' over and over again. They are now embarrassed about their false prediction and have had to admit to NOT being inspired of Holy spirit. This of course makes them more worried about their position and escalates the beating of their Fellow Slaves. BUT @TrueTomHarley Still says that no one can disfellowship the GB. This shows that the GB have exalted themselves above the rest of the Slave Anointed ones and shows proof of the hierarchy in the CCJW.

I also find verse 1 of chapter 1 of Revelation interesting too. A revelation* by Jesus Christ, which God gave him,a to show his slavesb the things that must shortly take place. And he sent his angel and presented it in signs through him to his slave John, As is shown in the Matthew 24 scripture (at top of page), the Slaves are the Anointed. Now we can also see in the Revelation that it was written to show HIS SLAVES the things that must shortly take place. Surely this proves that it was written for the Anointed to understand not for the Earthly class to fully understand.

Many years ago I worked for the Post Office in a big sorting office, doing late and night shifts. The money just rolled in. However it ruined my marriage at that time, ( which unfortunately was too late to save ). When i told everyone there that I was leaving to find a better job, they all laughed at me and said there are no better jobs. They seemed to almost worship the Post office and the money they were earning and could not see outside of that 'box'. It seems that you also are inside a 'box'. The W/t and the CCJW are not essential for serving God. What / who is essential is Jesus Christ. However, if God so chooses, He may still use a selection of people from those organisations. At this time (Covid-19) many people are 'working from home'. And since the invention of the internet, communication earthwide is so much easier. It is not necessary to have the Anointed all in one place. With God's guidance and Holy Spirit all things are possible. Have more faith. I agree, many will be stumbled. But many have already been stumbled by the GB and the CCJW. The GB have made up rules and have exalted themselves to a position whereby many JWs say 'the GB cannot be disfellowshipped. Many congregants have been stumbled by the GB's rules, and hidden directions, concerning Child Sexual Abuse. Many more have been stumbled by the GB's false prophecies and constantly looking for signs. Many have been stumbled by the harsh rules and dishonest Elders in congregations. Many have indeed lost faith, but only if they had put their faith in MEN. Many people have left the CCJW because they know in their hearts that the GB and the CCJW / W/t are not serving God properly. Yahweh, Almighty God, notices these ones that have left the CCJW or want to leave for the right reasons, and HE keeps them in mind. HE will only act when HE is ready of course. Then HE will guide honest hearted peoples to here :- Zechariah 8 v 23 “This is what Yahweh of armies says, ‘In those days ten men out of all the languages of the nations will take hold, yes, they will take firm hold of the robe of a Jew, saying: “We want to go with you, for we have heard that God is with you people.”’” Remember Cornelius in Acts 10 v 30 and 31 :- Then Cornelius said: “Four days ago counting from this hour, I was praying in my house at the ninth hour; just then a man in bright clothing stood in front of me 31 and said: ‘Cornelius, your prayer has been favorably heard, and your gifts of mercy have been remembered before God. You asked me "So how will you be able to pick an anointed that will help you spiritually? @Kosonen I won't pick an Anointed, Almighty God through Jesus Christ, will guide me to them.

I can see from your comment that you have preconceived ideas, and that you think you know me. My understanding of scripture is very limited. But maybe Yahweh gave me direction in my new topic.

I was reading Mathew 24 v 45 onward in an effort to reply to Arauna concerning the Anointed and the Watchtower January 2020 Study Article 5 “Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time? 46 Happy is that slave if his master on coming finds him doing so! 47 Truly I say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings.48 “But if ever that evil slave says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying, 49 and he starts to beat his fellow slaves and to eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards, 50 the master of that slave will come on a day that he does not expect and in an hour that he does not know, 51 and he will punish him with the greatest severity and will assign him his place with the hypocrites. There is where his weeping and the gnashing of his teeth will be. Now lets look at this :- The Master, Jesus Christ, appoints a Slave over his Domestics. The master does not appoint a Slave over other Slaves. That Slave would be happy if the Master comes and finds that Slave feeding the Domestics properly. But if that evil Slave starts beating his FELLOW SLAVES, the Master of that Slave will punish him. NOTE that it mentions that evil slave beating HIS FELLOW SLAVES. It does not say the evil Slave will be beating the Domestics. Now if we go back to the Study Article 5 (January 2020 W/t) paragraph 1, the scripture in Zechariah 8 v 23, we note that the JEW is the complete Anointed remnant. Not just a small number of them. The paragraph itself says "The Jew here represents those whom God has anointed by holy spirit". So the GB / Writing Department here show that they recognise that the JEW is the complete number of Anointed remnant. That JEW, complete number of Anointed remnant, are also the Faithful and Discreet Slave. From 1927 until 2012, this faithful and discreet slave was interpreted as all anointed Jehovah’s Witnesses. (see Jehovah’s Witnesses – Proclaimers of God’s Kingdom, p.626) The Domestics are those of the Earthly Class, and they do not get beaten by the evil slave. The evil slave beats his Fellow Slaves, FELLOW ANOINTED ONES. The Evil Slave are the GB, that started to beat their Fellow Slaves in 2013, shown below :- Since July 15 2013, Jehovah’s Witnesses have been told – and now believe – that the “Faithful & Discreet slave” is their governing body only. Confirmation of this fact is found in The Watchtower July 15 2013 page 21, paragraph 10: This relates to Matthew 24 v 48 - 49 48 “But if ever that evil slave says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying,’b 49 and he starts to beat his fellow slaves The reason that the (GB) evil slave says that " My Master is delaying " is because the ( GB ) evil slave have been concerned about the exact time of Armageddon. They have so many failed predictions that they know the congregation has lost faith in them and no longer trust them. This of course makes them more worried about their position and escalates the beating of their Fellow Slaves. But now look at verses 50 and 51 of Matthew 24. the master of that slave will come on a day that he does not expect and in an hour that he does not know, 51 and he will punish him with the greatest severity and will assign him his place with the hypocrites. There is where his weeping and the gnashing of his teeth will be. This clearly shows that a time is coming soon when Jesus Christ will remove the evil slave and punish them. When that happens a true SLAVE (Anointed ones) will arise to lead God's true Domestics (earthly class).

@Arauna Well even your GB / Writing department seem to realise that the Anointed are the JEW in the scripture in Zechariah 8. Hopefully you've read the January 2020 Watchtower Study Article 5. The scripture below is from another source but is the same scripture.. Zechariah 8:23 New International Version (NIV) 23 This is what the Lord Almighty says: “In those days ten people from all languages and nations will take firm hold of one Jew by the hem of his robe and say, ‘Let us go with you, because we have heard that God is with you.’” Now I think that scripture shows clearly that the True Anointed have a job to do NOW here on this Earth. Not to 'rule' it over everyone else, BUT to give proper spiritual direction. Arauna your GB are not giving proper spiritual direction, and your GB are not the complete JEW. The very sad thing is that in the Study article 5 of that W/t, in paragraph 15 your GB, GO BEYOND THE THINGS WRITTEN. The GB give no proof whatsoever, from scripture, that they are the F&DS. I'm going to start a new topic on this now :-

I think in twelve months time this virus will just be another part of history. Why are some of you people still looking for a sign ? Like a member of your GB smiled and said It's gonna get worse ! When a person gets older they expect to be in lesser heath and ability. so it is with this old system of things, as it gets older it will get worse. It is run by the devil and he knows his time is short, so we must expect him to make things worse. BUT, that does not mean that Armageddon is 'so close' now. In fact isn't it a bit selfish to want it now ? Shouldn't you be wanting thousands more people serving Yahweh before the 'end comes' ? Some of you seem like those on the Titanic, you are 'in the lifeboat' so it's time to push off. Maybe after this virus is gone, things may move forward spiritually, so don't be in too much hurry for Armageddon.

Explain please. Are you saying Anna is the problem ?

I have said before that unfortunately @Arauna writes from her emotions, and I find her attack on @Witness to be very sexist. I know not whether @Witness is of the anointed but i can see by her writings that she is concerned for the spiritual health of all people. I seem to notice that it is the JWs that do the insulting here. An example is the way @TrueTomHarley insults me. But it was me that was given a warning by @Anna . Can we please try to be nice to one another. Even if we do feel that some are enemies, Jesus said to Love your enemies.

Quote @Anna "The "Jew" are all the anointed (spiritual Israel). The FDS are just a few of the anointed to give food at the proper time. Don't mix the two up" The truth is NO ONE know who the F&DS are. You are only relating what you are told by the GB through the W/t. But one main point is, that scripture says that, the earthly class want to follow or 'go with' the JEW, the Anointed. It does not say 'go with' the 8 men of the GB of CCJW. Next point. Quote "Peter was talking about the last days of what was going on at the time (destruction of Jerusalem was close)," I tend to agree with you on this but, was that a smaller fulfilment of the prophesy concerning the 'last days'. There seems to be an understanding that many scriptures had a smaller fulfilment and will have a bigger fulfilment. Only the Apostle John's writings were written after the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 C. E. So all other last day prophesies could have two fulfilments. 2 Timothy Chapter 3 for instance, talks about the 'last days'. But that was written prior to the destruction of Jerusalem. So Paul's letter could be referring to the last days before the destruction of Jerusalem. But it is generally accepted to mean the 'last days' NOW. So 'what was spoken of though the prophet Joel' 17 ‘“And in the last days,” God says, “I will pour out some of my spirit on every sort of flesh, and your sons and your daughters will prophesy and your young men will see visions and your old men will dream dreams,l 18 and even on my male slaves and on my female slaves I will pour out some of my spirit in those days, and they will prophesy. Could have a bigger fulfilment in THESE last days. And if so, who are those people mentioned in it ? In that scripture God is promising to POUR OUT SOME OF HIS SPIRIT but the GB admit to not having that spirit. Read that scripture again and see the promises in it that come from GOD. It mentions male and female being inspired by GOD'S holy spirit. IN the Last Days.

I've just been reading the January 2020 Study Watchtower. (Hard copy mag', not online) In particular Study No 5. Now my previous comment I wrote 3 hours ago on another topic, before I'd even seen this Study article. And what is this Study article about ? It's about the Anointed and WE WILL GO WITH YOU PEOPLE. The 10 men and the Jew. It shows that the 'Jew' are the anointed and the ten men are people that want to serve God properly, with an earthly hope.. However in para' 2 it says 'However they do not view the anointed as their leaders, realising that Jesus fills the role of Leader' Keep that in mind. In para 7, we find this hint once again basically telling Anointed ones not to meet together and not to have Bible discussions together. Saying the congregation would not be united if anointed ones 'did those things'. It also makes a very harsh statement, that the anointed 'would be working against the holy spirit' if they were to do those things. However in para' 8 it tells us about the bible, saying ".but it does not tell us that we can make any human our leader" Remember this too. Para' 10 says " we will never follow others, even those who are anointed or well known or those that have served Jehovah for a long time. Remember all this. Because you should also remember that the GB have said "Jehovah and Jesus trust us (GB) so you should trust us" Para' 12 once again uses the idea of some of the 'anointed' being mentally ill, BUT para 15 is the big one. Quote " Not all who have the hope of living in heaven are part of 'the faithful and discreet slave' It uses the excuse that 'Just as in the first century, Jehovah and Jesus today are using a few brothers to feed, or teach, many. Only a few anointed Christians in the first century were used to write the Christian Greek Scriptures ". What it completely fails to mention is that there were relatively few anointed disciples in the position of being with Christ at the time and therefore having the knowledge to write those things. It also fails to note that Paul was more of an 'outsider', not one of the twelve, but Paul was used to write the letters to the congregations. Para 15 goes on to say that " Today only a few anointed Christians have the responsibility to give God's people 'food at the proper time' ". That paragraph 15 is so tiny and slyly slipped in there. It's right at the end of the article deliberately to play on the minds of congregants. It has no scriptural backing at all. So the Study article starts off by saying exactly as I have said about the 10 men clinging to the robe of a Jew. It recognises the JEW as being the Anointed. It recognises the earthly class as Saying "We want to go with you, for we have heard that God is with you people" BUT then it ends the article by saying that only those 8 men are the F&DS. Hypocrisy of the highest order. No scripture in the whole Bible says those 8 men are the F&DS. And no scripture says who the F&DS are. The Governing Body of CCJW have given themselves that title and are still pushing this full tilt on the congregation. The scripture in Acts 2, from verse 14 where Peter implies that they are living in the last days, states that, from v 17, ‘“And in the last days,” God says, “I will pour out some of my spirit on every sort of flesh, and your sons and your daughters will prophesy and your young men will see visions and your old men will dream dreams,l 18 and even on my male slaves and on my female slaves I will pour out some of my spirit in those days, and they will prophesy. This scripture mentions women as well as men prophesying. It mentions young and old seeing visions and dreaming dreams. BUT it doesn't mention just 8 men that 'study together' (which they don't want other anointed doing) being the only ones to prophesy. I am grateful to the provider of the magazines i have. It's nice to be able to read it in print.

But then PEOPLE that think the true Anointed should be totally ignored, and that people should follow a Governing Body of MEN who pretend to be a 'faithful and discreet slave', but at the same time are ruling over others by man made rules, well it shows who THEY serve doesn't it. I don't think a true Anointed remnant would want to 'rule' whilst in human form, BUT, they may want to offer guidance. A think a true Anointed would see themselves as a servant of God not as a GOVERNING BODY. CSB Zechariah 8 v 23 The Lord of Armies says this: “In those days, ten men from nations of every language will grab the robe of a Jewish man tightly, urging: Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.” 23 “This is what Jehovah of armies says, ‘In those days ten men out of all the languages of the nations will take hold, yes, they will take firm hold of the robe* of a Jew, saying: “We want to go with you,k for we have heard that God is with you people.” King James Bible Act 2 v 17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: NWT Act 2 v 18. 18 and even on my male slaves and on my female slaves I will pour out some of my spirit in those days, and they will prophesy. So where do these scriptures in Acts fit in with your GB ? Your 8 men that lord it over the congregation. In v 14, it says Peter stood up and spoke to them, the people. And it seems that Peter related what was happening to them actually being in 'the last days'. So was that indeed the beginning of the 'last days' ? Now if so then it mentions twice about females prophesying, firstly 'and your sons and daughters will prophesy' and secondly, 'and on my female slaves ... and they will prophesy'. So where are these other men and where are these females that are to prophesy ? If it is only your 8 men of the GB that you rely on ? Note also that God promises to POUR OUT HIS SPIRIT OF THOSE ONES. BUT your GB admit to NOT being inspired on God's Holy spirit. I've started a new topic after just reading the January 2020 Study 5 which is rather interesting. WATCHTOWER JANUARY 2020 STUDY 5

How many scriptures would you like :- Ezekiel 36:23 Ezekiel 38:16 Ezekiel 28:25 Ezekiel 39:7 1 Kings 5:5 Isaiah 48:9 Ezekiel 38:23 Isaiah 43:7 Numbers 3:13 Ezekiel 39:27 Ezekiel 20:41 God / Yahweh has sanctified HIS own name many times and will continue to do so. Your idea that humans can do the same for themselves is just twisting the situation for your own use. YHWH is Almighty God and therefore is entitled to sanctify HIMSELF above every thing and every one. You do seem to place more importance on humans than is necessary. Now that is a fault of the CCJW. Don't you ever wonder what plans God has for when this little hiccup is over. Do you think this Earth and humans are the only things that Almighty God has in mind ? Really ? God has to be sure that all spirit persons in the heavens are true to HIM and love HIM. God almost completely wiped out the human race once (The Flood) and God is going to almost wipe out the human race again (Armageddon). Almighty God is far superior to everyone and everything. Understand it and live with it. Unfortunately the GB and the CCJW will not be humble enough to live with it, that is why they are failing and will continue to do so. As for your excuse as to why the GB wants the sins of the CCJW hidden, you are wrong. The reason the GB want their sins hidden is as I've said above. The GB and the CCJW are not humble enough to show respect to Almighty God through Jesus Christ. The GB and others with power in those Orgs (CCJW / Watchtower Soc ) are trying to keep their own power, they do not 'bend their knee' to God or Christ. I think you need a bigger and deeper perspective of all things. For instance, I often think on this :- Was the angel (that became the devil ) actually put in charge of the Earth ? If so, then did God and His Son have further plans for another planet ? Have those plans been put on hold for this short time, for it is only a short time in God's eyes. You see, I try to think more from a spiritual viewpoint. This Earth and us humans are just small fry. Important to a small degree, but not the most important. The important thing was for God to clear all blame from HIMSELF. He is still in the process of doing that. We are fortunate to be able to be part of it, but we are not the most important part.

I thought the Insight book description was very good and proper. It puts humans in their proper place. Whom ever wrote that did well I think, and i think God would be pleased with the way it was written. The praise and authority and respect was given fully to God, although I'm not sure the name of God is correct. I did note that higher up on the page it says, that Hebrew scholars are more inclined to the name Yahweh, which i agree with. However the Model Prayer says 'Let you name be sanctified' It does not say 'Sanctify your own name'. As God's 'name' is already holy in heaven, then it seems more to be asking that humans can do their part in making God's name holy here on earth.

Quote @Kosonen "But I have recently realized one particular doctrine in the Watchtower literature making it difficult. It is the doctrine of how important the sanctification of Jehovah God is for God himself." However what i don't see here IS, any example from any Watchtower magazine. Surely you should furnish proof positive by giving the details of the Watchtower mags' these things are written in ? If what you are saying IS true, then it would look as if the GB are heading in the way John Butler said they would be heading. @TrueTomHarley says 'No on can d/fed the GB'. A bit naive in my opinion. If God finds the GB turning their backs on HIM even more than they have already, then i think God will act in some way to put matters straight. As for the letter even getting read in a serious manner, I doubt that very much. Which Bethel / HQ are you sending this to ? BUT, God is not acting just for humans to benefit is HE ? The challenge did not start with humans did it ? The challenge started in heaven, by an angel. Then many more angels took the side of the main rebellious angel. So the main reason God is taking this forward is not for the benefit of humans. The main reason is for God to prove HE has the right to be in complete charge of all things. I hope you do not think that humans are the most important thing. We are not superior to heavenly beings. Therefore God needs to satisfy the 'minds and hearts' of all those heavenly beings once and for all time, so that rebellion will not start again. Sanctification is a strange word. We as humans trying to serve God, want to try to clear God of blame. We want to show other people that God does not do harm in this 'world', nor does HE do good in a general way. Basically we need to show people that God is not involved in daily life, but has a plan of action which HE will bring into play when HE is ready to do so. However God has to show all those heavenly / spirit beings that HE has the right to rule. And that HE is just, loving, kind and merciful, and that HE has the power to carry through HIS plans. So if that is what the GB means then it is right. But if the GB are suggesting God is selfish, wow, they are then heading for big trouble.

I don't think there is a problem with not being equal. If I ever get to know who the true remnant of the Anointed are, I will accept them as being above me. I certainly would not think that I am equal to the Apostles. I don't actually want to be equal to everyone else. In my opinion being humble means thinking of myself as a lesser one. As for Kos' idea of one body, I think that only refers to the Anointed ones. The Anointed are the one body of Christ, with Christ as the head. Jesus said "I have other sheep that are not of this fold". He of course meant the earthly class. So in my opinion they cannot be of the same 'body'. Would seem strange to me to have part of the body in heaven and part of the body here on earth. So I do not consider myself equal to the Heavenly class. God has made personal contact with them, and He has not and will not with me ..

Matthew 24 v 4 through 8. In answer Jesus said to them: “Look out that nobody misleads you,e 5 for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many.f 6 You are going to hear of wars and reports of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for these things must take place, but the end is not yet.g7 “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom,h and there will be food shortagesi and earthquakes in one place after another.j 8 All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress. Luke 21 v 9 through 11. Furthermore, when you hear of wars and disturbances,* do not be terrified. For these things must take place first, but the end will not occur immediately.”j10 Then he said to them: “Nation will rise against nation,k and kingdom against kingdom.l 11 There will be great earthquakes, and in one place after another food shortages and pestilences;m and there will be fearful sights and from heaven great signs. I think @JW Insider said that the so called signs were actually just the opposite. They are things not to get excited about, because it gives false hope. And as I've said before Jesus warned against those looking for 'signs'. Looking for physical signs is showing a physical viewpoint not a spiritual viewpoint. Surely there are many things to happen between now and the Judgement.

@Arauna Unfortunately you write emotionally not spiritually, so it is difficult to have a conversation with you. Proof of this is such things as :- Quote "maybe you are the only person God can use heh? It seems you think this way... How can I answer such things ? If you have read many things that i have written you would know differently. Quote " Pride is a blinding sin. When one judges for God that the spiritual Israelites he is using are not good enough for you." Firstly, it does not seem as if GOD is using anyone right now. Anthony Morris' comment concerning the Virus is not exactly loving is it ? The Virus is not from God, so why would that GB member be so happy about it ? And the CSA issue is of course not so important right now, but it is still there, and still to be answered for. And the misuse of scripture, overlapping generations etc... I only judge the GB and the CCJW for my own purpose, so that i can tell if it is the right way to try to serve God. In my eyes it is not the right way to serve God, because it can easily be seen as unclean and sometimes dishonest. And not least that the GB admit to not having God's guidance. It is no different to you or anyone judging the Catholic Church or any other religion as to if that religion is serving God properly. And lets be honest the CCJW has constantly judged other religions and condemned them. Arauna, you still seem to be putting your faith in those 8 men. So be it, if it suits your needs. But don't be so angry with others that are looking to God through Christ for a true answer.

@admin and @Anna I am offended by this comment. Please tell this Mr Harley to refrain from insulting me. Thank you in advance.

Yes the resurrected will get their judgement at the end of the 1,000 years, the same as anyone else. And Jesus was talking about those of the heavenly class, but you don't have to believe it if it doesn't fit with your comfort zone. And misusing scripture just shows that you are one of the CCJW. That's all. If i say more I will be accused of wrongful action, so I'll stop here.

Point 1. God does not need telling HE already knows. My prayers to God ask HIM to bring forth a clean people for HIM to use. God used the Nation of Israel for a couple of reasons. The main reason was to being forth Jesus Christ. But as I've said before, and of course I'm ignored for it, people were BORN INTO the Nation of Israel so they did NOT CHOSE to be Iraelites. Hence it was not voluntary. Do you not understand that ? And therefore do you not understand the big difference ? JW's volunteer TO BE JWs. It is a personal choice, a choice which Israelites did not have. There is no comparison between the Nation of Israel and the CCJW in that way. But one thing, the Nation of Israel got punished for disobeying God. They got punished for offering their children in the fire. They got punished for worshipping false gods. So if you really think the CCJW is God's chosen organisation, and if you really think it compares to the Nation of Israel, then I suggest to you that you get ready for the CCJW to be punished by God.

You are so funny James. Your 'test' is not important to me. If you are blind enough or lazy enough to remain with CCJW then why should i be concerned about your opinion ? I gave you an option, which you obviously do not like. Stay safe, America seems to be suffering badly.