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    John H Slaughter reacted to JJJ-AUSTRALIA in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    Lol this kind of reasoning cracks me up, too innocent to tell lies too innocent to appear in front of the court too innocent to be buying whisky 😆😆😆 
    How do U know as a fact they have never touched anyone inappropriately, not saying they have but to make such statement that they have never U must have good evidence.
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    John H Slaughter reacted to Srecko Sostar in JW.org Says Apostates are "Mentally Diseased"   
    Hi Tom. 
    I agree how we need to be "adapted". But that sounds also as in science books that explaining "evolution theory". Species were "adaptable" and .... survived. :)))
    Do you suggest and say how God's inspired words need GB and their human uninspired  intervention according to modern Technological progress?  And not only to technology, because why to stop on only such adaptations. Why you not going further and say, how God's inspired words need GB and their human uninspired  intervention according to modern progress in Culture and Thoughts? 
    You said how GB is unwilling to dictate people's conscience? What is base for your perception? GB made religious teachings and sorted them in 2 lines. They decide how things in one line are mandatory and in second are free choice. By such act they had already, prior to any of your attempt to make decision, made decision in your name and cancelled/ annulled  activity and pursuit of your conscience. If we have legal regulation, than we have no need for conscience. Conscience was designed for other purpose, not to be under Power of Law. 
    What shall we going to mix? :))
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    John H Slaughter reacted to Srecko Sostar in JW.org Says Apostates are "Mentally Diseased"   
    In one hand this way of reasoning is valid. But, of course i need to notice this too. We can argue or make consensus about "core" teachings and about those that are "less" important teachings. If such categorization even exist!!! 
    For example, blood transfusion.
    1) CORE teaching is: we do not take transfusion of whole blood.
    2) MINOR teaching is: we can take blood fractions.
    What makes this two teachings to be in 2 categories? The 1) is command, mandatory and disobey such teaching brings you dfd and JHVH judgment. The 2) is not command, but your personal choice and no one will ask you to give report on your decision. 
    Also, i would like to incorporate in this conversation and reasoning another element. But that doesn’t mean that the law has lost its force. It is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for the smallest point of God’s law to be overturned. ...... But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away, than for one tiny stroke of a pen in the Law to become void. - Luke 16 two versions
    In this Jesus' words i see just opposite of common custom when WT Society and elders interpret, and you repeat it here, how some teachings are core and some are not. Why? Another reasoning we also find in Bible. If you are faithful in little things, you will be faithful in large ones. - Luke 16 With this looking on subject about teachings, that some  people consider to be somehow small or smallest in  significance and value, we see how Jesus' perspective is not on same level that people have, about what is big and important and what is small and unimportant.
    With this what i wrote, I can't agree with explanation you offered, how some WT Society teachings are more important than others. Because, Jesus words showed me different way on how to look on details.
    Also, as conclusion, few JW doctrines that are supposedly the truth, can't save you from judgement about others doctrines that are supposedly lie.  :))    But I tell you that everyone will have to give account on the day of judgment for every empty word they have spoken. - Mat 12
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    John H Slaughter reacted to DespicableME in Suicide. God's view. Organisation's view   
    This is a spot on characterization here, that's also my opinion.
    Something like Aaron making the golden calf because the people told him to make that false idol, just because Moses was taking to long to return. I forget, what happened to those people?
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    John H Slaughter reacted to Srecko Sostar in Suicide. God's view. Organisation's view   
    Yes, people always doing what they want to do..... and sometimes they WANT to do things what THEY (other people) told them to do. 
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    John H Slaughter reacted to Srecko Sostar in Suicide. God's view. Organisation's view   
    :))) yes, supposed. Because "life saving information" have to come from GB onto worldwide elders and from them to flock. That is legal, legitimate and  official way how  "channel" of communication working and is blessed by god. :))))
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    John H Slaughter reacted to Srecko Sostar in Suicide. God's view. Organisation's view   
    Think, how both questions have good position. Maybe we can be in better position about answer, if we take in consideration what would be chance to survive and continue to live (in this life of course :))) ) in each of this situations. 
    On other side, by refusing blood you not participate in defending other people who had been attacked by evil force.
    Reason or reasons for refusing blood, standing in theological explanation of how should be understood verse in Bible, and how are your personal feelings about God's will.
    By this action (refusing blood) you directly help or harm yourself, and indirectly harm own family. Those people who going to war because they want to help people, are ready to put  themselves  in danger situation for (theoretically) only one reason - to help known and unknown people on cost of own life.
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    John H Slaughter reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    @Arauna How do you actually know that the GB members  " never personally touched a child (actually too innocent  to comprehend how wicked people can be - too good for this world), " ? 
    There is it seems a massive data base of Child Sexual Abuse accusations hidden within the Org. And do you have all that information, so that you know who is and who isn't on that list ?  Do you know why the GB are holding back that list ? 
    In Australia the brothers must have handed over their list of names about CSA accusations.
    Here in the UK, after court action, the brothers handed over their list of CSA accusation.
    But in the USA the GB and /or their lawyers are refusing to hand over their information ? 
    Someone will scream 'but the laws are different in USA'. It would make no difference if the laws are different in USA,   IF the GB would act on the scripture 'We must obey God as ruler, rather than men'. 
    Seems quite funny that the GB /Org tells people to disobey laws of man when it involves some things, such as joining the armed forces, but yet the GB hides behind laws when it suits them. 
    @Srecko Sostar  Thank you, but did you actually read ALL of that ?  Sorry i only read bits. Too much for me. 
     

     
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    John H Slaughter reacted to Witness in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    And the organization is sinless?  How easy it is for JWs to continually point to the world’s sins and refuse to acknowledge the sins of God’s people.  1 Cor 6:4-8  Whose sins are greater in God’s eyes?  The sins of those who claim to worship Him, or of those who don’t? 
    “My people are fools;
    they do not know me.
    They are senseless children;
    they have no understanding.
    They are skilled in doing evil;
    they know not how to do good.” Jer 4:22
    ‘How can you say,
    "WE ARE WISE,
    FOR WE HAVE THE LAW OF THE LORD,"
    WHEN ACTUALLY THE LYING PEN OF THE SCRIBES
    HAS HANDLED IT FALSELY?"
    “The wise will be put to shame;
    they will be dismayed and trapped.
    Since they have rejected the word of the Lord,
    what kind of wisdom do they have?” Jer 8:8,9
     
     
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    John H Slaughter reacted to Arauna in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    As I said before: eight old men who never personally touched a child (actually too innocent  to comprehend how wicked people can be - too good for this world), mentioned in court documents while people like Epstein who had 37 cases against him in 2007 got off because the FBI covered up for him and went after the victims. A plea bargain made without the victim's lawyers informed.
    All Epstein's workers who knew what was going on since 2007, all his high-up friends and his girlfriend who coached the girls - NOTHING!   New cases in England as well where rape gangs raped young girls - covered up.
    What does that tell you about the condition of the world when the real unscrupulous predators go off free and the innocent who do NOT condone this, are accused.   
    People like you - who just go after JWs- get so much joy out of this......... but this tells me personally that when good is bad and bad is good, we are ever closer to Armageddon.
    Just a little while longer and the wicked will be no more....... thanks to Jehovah, Jesus is the judge.
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    John H Slaughter reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    I know nothing about law and defo' nothing about American law. So can someone kindly break this down into simple terms for me.
    What exactly are the GB members being accused of ? I ask because I don't want to gain or give wrong information. 
    Does this involve the Child Sex Abuse database ? It is does would it mean the GB / Lawyers would have to hand over the database to the courts / authorities ? 
    Maybe @TrueTomHarley would have some kind of 'level headed' input on this ?
    @James Thomas Rook Jr.  I haven't got to understand where you are in / out of JW Org but do you have any 'sensible' input to this ? 
    You may or may not know but us British are not allowed to receive some info' / news reports etc, from some countries. I often go in to do research and get a bit NO from certain sites. Something to do with data protection maybe ? 
    So I am deeply interested in this info from @Jack Ryan . Thank you Jack. But I'd honestly like some level headed, neutral information to clarify what the GB members are being accused of and what it will or could mean for the JW Org. 
    I have often seen on this Forum that the GB are the top guys and cannot be removed from 'office' as there is no one in a position to remove them. Will this court action make a difference to the GB's position in the JW Org ? 
    I have to agree with @TrueTomHarley on many things he says. The JW Org speaks truth according to scripture on many things. And with a bit of tweaking it might just serve God well  . The GB or Writing dept' do spoil it all though with, what i call running ahead of God. So I do wonder what the future holds for JW Org. 
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    John H Slaughter reacted to Srecko Sostar in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    Perhaps these would help. It is good to read for your own first.  
    517900_2019_John_Michael_Ewing_v_John_Michael_Ewing_SUMMONS___COMPLAINT_1.pdf
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    John H Slaughter reacted to Jack Ryan in All Eight Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses members are now individually named on two New York Child Victims Act case documents   
    Google "New York Court"
    http://www.nycourts.gov/
    Scroll down, under "e-COURTS"
    click
    "e-Filing"
    https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/HomePage
    Left hand column, under "Login" click
    "Search as Guest"
    Then enter characters and click "Submit"
    https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/CaseSearch
    Click "Name" then type in "Watchtower" and click Search
    Then click on the "Sort By" box
    Select "Received Date : newest to oldest"
    Then click "Sort"
    . . .
    JW CSA Survivors in ALL 50 States can seek justice under the New York Child Victims Act
    This law firm confirmed it. You can ask them :
    Jehovah's Witness Sex Abuse Lawyers
    https://www.jehovahswitnesssexabuselawyers.com/
    Also, amongst other proof, Irwin Zalkin confirmed this on a video...links to that and other proof is in this video :
    The New York Child Victims Act is for JW CSA Survivors in ALL 50 States
    https://youtu.be/N3Kq_nG0434
     
    "Although McDaniel's alleged abuse occurred in Oklahoma, her attorneys said they would argue that Watchtower, which is based in New York, enabled the conduct by way of negligent policies."
    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/ywaj87/calling-out-sexual-abuse-in-the-jehovahs-witnesses-is-a-horrific-struggle
     
     
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    John H Slaughter reacted to Arauna in If JWs told people their real motivation for knocking at their doors on the initial call.   
    Now those few words tell me you hate all goodness or decency.  We understand fully why you hate JWs.   There is no respect and logic in the cesspit where those words were thought up.
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