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    Dmitar reacted to TrueTomHarley in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    I do believe this. That’s why I will take it seriously should SM ever check me on some point I have made, rather than blow it off as fault-seeking drivel, the way I realistically must do with so many here.
    I won’t go quite so far as to say it would be a Psalm 141: 5 moment…
    “Should the righteous one … reprove me, it would be like oil on my head, Which my head would never refuse,”
    but close.
    If you hate the good news, you will do everything in your power to find fault with the imperfect vessels that carry it. It is no more complicated than that. SM is on to these malcontents.
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    Dmitar reacted to Witness in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    I think my "half-truth" and your "truth" are saying the same thing.
     "Just think, brothers, there are only about ninety months left before 6,000 years of mans existence on earth is completed... The majority of people living today will probably be alive when Armageddon breaks out, and there are no resurrection hopes for those who are destroyed then. So, now more than ever, it is vital not to ignore that spirit of wanting to do more." (km 3/1968 p. 4) 
    "There is only a short time left before Jehovah will destroy this wicked system of things." (Wt 1/15/1969)
    "The Bible book of Revelation (chapters 20 and 21) reveals many of the good things that the thousand-year rule will bring. It also tells us that this millennium must be preceded immediately by the most destructive war in all human history. We can now see the political rulers or “kings of the entire inhabited earth” being gathered, under forces beyond human control, for that War of all wars, at the place called Har–Magedon"  (Wt 74/7/1 pg 397)
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    Dmitar reacted to Thinking in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Okay you win …
     
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    Dmitar reacted to Srecko Sostar in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Can I continue my madness now?
    @Witness put a picture of a magazine from 1968. You put a quote from a magazine from 1974.
    What it shows us?
    A little shift in the interpretation of the date when the end of the system of things begins.
    From the magazine you provide as evidence you should note what you skipped to emphasize. And it is:
    All we know is that the end will come within the generation that sees fulfilled on it the sign that Jesus Christ said would then be in evidence. (See Matthew chapters 24, 25.) All indications are that the fulfillment of this sign began in 1914. So we can be confident that the end is near; we do not have the slightest doubt that God will bring it about, the speaker stressed. - w74 10/15 page 635
    Mitigating the outcome of the end in 1975 with the claim that the end comes within the generation of 1914 means stretching the period in which the end (destruction of the evil world) will occur definitively.
    Your and SM's attempt to defend 1975 is in vain. 
    You need to be aware that "1975" was in fact within the lifetime of the "1914 generation", from WT perspective. It means that WTJWorg’s “prediction” was based, and even justifiably based, on the doctrine and interpretations of the time. Because if they were right with the definition of "generation", the end could really have come in 1975, if we had looked at it from their position at the time. :)))
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    Dmitar got a reaction from JW Insider in What's going on in Ukraine 🇺🇦???   
    Pray for the brothers in Russia and Ukraine.
    Jehovah's Witnesses flee Russia for worship without fear (msn.com)
     
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    Dmitar got a reaction from JW Insider in What's going on in Ukraine 🇺🇦???   
    Timothy (Phil. 2:19-24)
     
    He was a blessing to Paul and to his own church, and he is also a blessing to us today! He proves to us that the joyful life is the life of sacrifice and service, that the submissive mind really does work. He and Timothy together encourage us to submit ourselves to the Lord, and to one another, in the Spirit of Christ. Christ is the Pattern we follow. Paul shows us the power (Phil 4:12-19); and Timothy and Epaphroditus are the proof that this mind really works.
     
    Will you permit the Spirit to reproduce "the mind of Christ" in you?
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    Dmitar got a reaction from JW Insider in What's going on in Ukraine 🇺🇦???   
    *** ws18 June pp. 3-4 par. 2 “My Kingdom Is No Part of This World” ***
    2 Today, more and more people have attitudes like those three once had. Many political groups use violence to gain independence. It is common for people to fight about politics. And in many countries, people mistreat foreigners more and more. Just as the Bible foretold, people are “not open to any agreement” during these last days. (2 Timothy 3:1, 3) How can Christians remain united while the world becomes more divided? We can learn much from Jesus’ example. People in his day were also divided by strong political opinions. In this article, we will learn the answers to three questions: Why did Jesus refuse to get involved in any political group? How did Jesus show that God’s people must not take sides on political issues? And how did Jesus teach us that we should never use violence?
     
     
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    Dmitar reacted to Pudgy in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    …… and for the woman who wants to drive her man craaaazy! ……
     

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    Dmitar reacted to Thinking in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Or the succulent scent of Patience …
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    Dmitar reacted to Pudgy in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Yeah, the wafting fragrance of Pyramid Petunia.
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    Dmitar reacted to Thinking in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Your a nut…you wouldn’t even know what you know about Jehovah without the GB…you follow unreasonableness and demon spirit inspired people who contribute absolutely nothing to anybody..and nobody knows  anything about them if they were never associated with witnesses…they contribute nothing to poor uneducated people who have no computers or who do not read…and nothing to society at all…just people massively engulfed and drowned by their own pride…they are the modern days Sauls even…
    The GB have done such things…they have taught people to read…and see and study the scriptures for themselves….even if they didn’t go on to follow our beliefs….they have helped the deaf to hear the message of the Bible…..at no cost and even if they don’t follow our belief system…they have organized a world wide program to reach people…yes they have errors…and will continue to have them u til judgement day arrives….but the basic doctrines have always been solid…and you wouldn’t even have known them if it wasn’t for the GB down then the years.
    Do I like everything or agree with the way they may handle everything….no…but nobody else knocked on my door and explained the basic truths as good as they did…
    what have you and others like you done but sit at your computer and try to ruin others faith…do you do that to the Catholics or any other beleif system..
    Satan has fueled you with a sense of pride that excels that of Sauls…your as crazy as they come.
    Talking to you and your lot is like talking  to a stobie  pole..thick as a brick.
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    Dmitar reacted to Srecko Sostar in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    :))) 
    A lot has been said, because a lot of it has been written about 1975 in WTJWorg publications.
    There is no need to explain this from me, because it is the rhetoric that is widely used by GB and WTJWorg.
    But you haven't become a "Truther" yet, have you?  
    You have a lot of difficulty in various forms of perception, while you put other people in boxes that you shape yourself of your choice, don't you? Even Dmitar warned me about your modus operandi.  
    WT exposes itself by exposing its past by blaming its own flock of sheep for alleged rumors that the flock began to spread on its own.
    It is absurd to believe in GB claim that JW sheep started bleating about 1975 unprovoked. The then and present WTJWorg administration is a church hierarchy that does not allow anything to happen beyond their control.
    And today you are trying to sell us the claim that these were some insignificant or semi-insignificant JW rank and file members who started mass hysteria (rumors) of such magnitude that even today WTJWorg publications have to write about it on the pages of WT magazine that is studied at JW meetings ? If 8 million JWs have to read and discuss this in meetings today because GB decided it was important for today's JWs to learn, then it's hard to accept your thesis that it was just rumors that were the product of the intellectual incompetence of a few JWs from period before 1975.
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    Dmitar reacted to Witness in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    This is what I suggest.  Buy yourself a 25 piece puzzle on Amazon, and practice putting it together until you see the entire picture on the box.   Then, revisit 1975, put the pieces - all of the Wt  articles pertaining to 1975, together, and you will see the entire picture.  (but you already know that)
    Better yet, find a JW who sold his house around 1975, and forfeited his job to prepare for Armageddon.  Ask him, if he believed the organization's leaders told him that 1975 was the date for Armageddon.  (you already know his answer)
    If you can't envision the "picture" puzzle, or you don't believe the JW, you are either blind, hard of hearing, a liar, or a manipulator -  for whatever reason, only you know.  
     
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    Dmitar reacted to Witness in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    What do you think Armageddon means to JWs?  It means the destruction of the "world" as they know it.  Analyze the first paragraph, with eyes open.  
     
     
     

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    Dmitar got a reaction from Pudgy in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Hey, your talking about yourself, well done. It was a long time coming!
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    Dmitar got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    I hope this doesn't offend you, but I wouldn't want to be anywhere near you. 😁
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    Dmitar reacted to Pudgy in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    You mean the wild beast that attacks, lies about people, denigrates people for no reason to exalt them selves, and slanders them with false accusations?
    …….  Whom so ever could that be?
    Hmmmmmm?

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    Dmitar reacted to Witness in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    You can live it, breathe it, sweat over it, anticipate it, sell your house, land, belongings - and be complimented for the trust and faith you put toward the leadership of men and the direction of “Jehovah’s organization” – you can be a child of parents who received the praise for their faithfulness, and suffered the consequences later as they scraped to provide for their family -  but that testimony means nothing to SM. 
    Not until a JW leaves and expresses that 1975 was another false prediction made by the Wt, does SM then take note.  That person becomes the liar, according to him, because Wt never said specifically, these words: ARMAGEDDON WILL ARRIVE IN THE FALL OF 1975.  The leaders manipulated the time period and the date.  They built up the hype in every way possible without targeting themselves (the upper echelon leaders) as the instigators. They condemned those who later left, because of the failure.  
    Manipulation is a serious sin according to God. (2 Cor 11:13-15) It is called “lying signs and wonders”.  (Matt 24:24; 2 Thess 2:9)  It is blatant deceit; so to call the person a liar who can plainly see through the manipulation, tells me that the accuser who excuses the manipulation, and instead focuses on the person who knows more about living through it, or living under the umbrella of lying signs and wonders...shows that the accuser, could also be a manipulator. 
     Can a wolf, cry wolf?  Of course!  They howl as a form of communication. 
     
     
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    Dmitar reacted to Pudgy in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    The point is this:
    invisible things that supposedly happened in heaven in 1914, for which there is not a single shred of evidence their invisible kingdom with an invisible presence supported by invisible people, or angels as the case may be is completely indistinguishable …… Based on facts…… From a delusional fantasy.
    The Bible said that nobody knows when Armageddon is going to take place and it would surprise everybody.
    So far, every person, group, and organization that has claimed insight and ability to explain prophecy as always without exception been 100% WRONG.
    That arrogance, fraud and just being flat wrong has been going on for at least 2000 years.
    There have been no exceptions.
    And I believe, that is the point.

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    Dmitar reacted to Pudgy in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    For those that have been on the ARCHIVE for many years, we remember that what has been said about this if it was assembled and stapled  together it would be about  a 1000 page book.
     
    Everything that has been said or could’ve been said has been said, over and over and over and over. Then it’s been rephrased a dozen times In a dozen different ways and that has been resaid over and over.
    in a dozen different ways and that has been resaid over and over.
    It’s real simple for me, because I was there and I watched it happen from California to the Congo and in the state of Virginia in the middle.

    The battle cry was “stay alive till ‘75”
    .…. which, surprisingly, I’ve been able to manage, so far.
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    Dmitar reacted to Pudgy in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    The thing that often comes to my mind is the parable of the boy who continually cried “Wolf!!”, when there was no wolf.
    somehow I find the same sort of thing acceptable with Air Raid drills.
     
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    Dmitar got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Yet being a fool for displaying (suggestive) brilliant art work after a particular conviction. When people say, as you age, a person gets wiser, too many disprove the logic. 😏
    I guess the intelligence gene is in the hair. 😮
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    Dmitar got a reaction from Pudgy in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Yet being a fool for displaying (suggestive) brilliant art work after a particular conviction. When people say, as you age, a person gets wiser, too many disprove the logic. 😏
    I guess the intelligence gene is in the hair. 😮
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    Dmitar reacted to Pudgy in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    I was speaking about “our Theology” To include all living things on planet Earth. Please go back and re-read that post with my intended perspective and see if it looks better then.
    My “broad stroke” was intended to be understood as planetary in scope.
    Perhaps I should have been more specific, but I did not think it would be misunderstood.
    Also, I am five or more years older than you, and was in California when the hustle started, an the Congo in late 1974, so our experiences might be expected to be completely different.
     
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    Dmitar reacted to Arauna in Are JWs in America back on the 'door to door' work now ?   
    Sorry - broad strokes like that is not acceptable to me.  Our core teachings are absolutely solid!  no argument about that.  The few mistakes due to over zealousness or some human fault is zoomed into by critical people with superior feelings  and used as a pulverizer to trash everything!  Don't agree with you.  I was also around in 1975 and it was not as bad as you-all make it out to be.   
    Jesus always spoke the truth and the pharisees /(super apostles) found fault with him.  
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