Dmitar

I understand that. Also knowing God existed is also not the point. If Satan imagined Jehovah himself was the product of the realm in which he was able to view him, like me being in a room or in a world with defined boundaries and I see someone and imagine that they didn't create the realm that we both reside in, but in point of fact simply was the first on the scene, then you'd be getting the point the author is getting at.

Humans know different types of 'love' but I don't think humans understand love from God's perspective.
God's ways are far higher than human ways.
And this also, we can only see from a human perspective.  Arauna replied to me once that 'humans are important', but I think not in comparison to the Universal issue.  
It would seem that millions of humans will die at the Judgement time, and it will be a necessary 'operation'.  A bit like clearing a building site before building a nice new house. Many humans cannot handle thinking about it, they see it as hateful / cruel.. And in reality I think many JWs try not to think about it. But, God will do what God will do to solve the Universal issue. 

I was.
I did.
He wasn’t.
You’re wrong.
It’s his heart that it never came up into, his center of motivation. It is the furthest thing from what he would ever do. It’s not that he can’t imagine it.
There is division among translators over this verse. Someone want to spend some time looking into this? I’ll take the NWT any day in this case. It dovetails far better with everything else we know of God.
https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Jeremiah 7%3A31
One translation best captures the “mind” sense with, “I never entertained the thought,” which is not the same as being “surprised.”

It's a good read.  Claiming an announcement was never fulfilled BEFORE it's due time is rather cowardly.   
"But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here.  For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal,  having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness,  betrayers, headstrong, puffed up with pride, lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God,  having an appearance of godliness but proving false to its power; and from these turn away." (2 Timothy 3:1-5)
The question about this prophecy is when. Will it be revealed in the future, or are we living it today? In the first part of 1914, the Bible Students known as International Bible Students Association discussed the “time of trouble” on the printed page called The Bible Students Monthly. Early in 1914, an issue of The Bible Students Monthly was issued with the large bold heading “END OF WORLD IN 1914? Some have quoted the large headline of this tract as proof that Russell was expecting the “end of the world” in 1914. However, such neglect the subheading under the larger headline, which states: “NOT THE VIEW OF PASTOR RUSSELL NOR OF I.B.S.A.” International Bible Students Association: "Nevertheless, when viewed from God’s standpoint, we are still “shortly after” 1914. Although Russell himself did not think the time of trouble would be this long, he did allow that it could be. It is possible that the time allotted for this period is 120 years (1914+120=2034), but that these days will be “cut short” some time before they are allowed to reach their end. We do not put this forth as a “prophecy”, nor would we feel anything was wrong if 2034 came and went and nothing had happened as far the full binding of Satan and the destruction of his empire is concerned. All things are in God’s hands."

Yes, even those leaving the organization submit to the Father and Jesus for a good “cleaning” through repentance, for our time of listening to lies and falling into idolatry - that an organization built by men could lead anyone to salvation. (Acts 4:12)   When we leave, we begin to perceive the distinction between what is true and what is not, and what it means to practice righteous worship to the Father.  (Heb 10:22)
I have heard a small bit of D. Splane’s talk on JW forums and otherwise, and how they effect JWs.   I’m curious how JWs here would respond to that, since he said JWs who participate, “are not good for one another”.  In other words, JWs cannot think for themselves, help each other spiritually,  but must listen to these men who stumble over their own doctrine. 
  He said apostasy is “rot from within” – spiritual poison. (Matt 7:15-20; Luke 6:45)   He continued to say, it is hard to recognize apostasy and to avoid it. He mentioned “teachers” could destroy our faith, which I found his use of “teachers” interesting. There are anointed teachers outside of the organization who are threatening the position of the GB and exposing their poison.   We can definitely point the finger right back at the “teachers” on the GB, as the apostates instead.  
Another point he made was that “not many get deliberately involved with apostates, and that they ‘had no idea that apostates were behind it.’  “It’s tricky, because the apostates don’t advertise you are now on an apostate web page”
1 Tim 4:1 - "The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons."
We have access to one extensive, widely known web page where the teachings are not consistent, but take twists and turns – tight switchbacks on their path of “new light”, that still lead one down a rabbit hole of darkness.  Only through deception can one still "love" such teachings over the truth in Jesus Christ.  2 Thess 2:9-12
I have yet to listen to his entire talk.  If only JWs would realize that they are breathing and drinking in, the doctrines of apostates. 
 Rev 8:10,11
Apostasy
 

This verse is also useful to show how funny, how ridiculous it sounds when JW literature talks about “cleansing within an organization” in some specific time periods that were a turning point for the WTJWorg Administration.

Who can bring out clean from unclean? No one!  Job 14:4
What experience does God have with an organized form of religion? For centuries, the Israeli congregation struggled in conditions that eventually ended with two destructions of the Temple, prophesied by God, and perhaps, to put it this way, caused by God. Further, The First Christian Assembly was diluted into various denominations of Christianity. Also, the current WTJWorg organization, which is claimed to be the only true successor to the First Christian Assembly, is grappling with doctrinal and instructional-organizational lies and errors.
I would say this way: God does not fix what is wrong, but always seeks a new solution to every new problem.

I guess a good way to know is by being able to count how many outside people show up at the ZOOM meetings.
I have noticed more “regulars” are showing up with sharper webcams, and green screens, or virtual backgrounds.
I do wish they would adjust the camera angles so as not to emphasize neck waddles and nose hair. 

I think it's a few years away yet. God or Jesus Christ has to either cleanse the JW Org or form a new 'Association of Brothers'.   
To cleanse the JW Org the CSA  problem would need completely removing, and it's not enough just to do that, but it has to 'be seen to be done'.  The public would have to KNOW that the JW Org had God's approval. '10 men clinging to the skirt of a JEW' The GB would have to hand over that Pedophile Database which they are pretending doesn't exist. Then ALL the pedophiles in the Org would have to face their crimes, probably in court rooms. 
Yes it would take God's Holy Spirit to cleanse the JW Org or to form a new Association of Brother, but it has to be done to give people a chance of 'coming to know God properly' before the Judgement. 
JWs cannot grasp that people know about the CSA / Pedophile problem in the JW Org, and it is a BIG STUMBLING BLOCK  to people. So, the GB and their 'helpers' are blood guilty because they have created this stumbling block.
Luke 17 : 1, Jesus said to his disciples: “Things that cause people to stumble are bound to come, but woe to anyone through whom they come.

Another prophecy/chronology/dateology from JW members? I guess you have some date in mind when that "final" message will be delivered to people.

On contrary, JW publications claims how all other religious web pages outside of WTJWorg and many other secular pages that not supports WTJWorg teachings are apostates and/or enemies of ..., but in same time producing and multiplying own apostasy on various issues. 
Example of apostasy is visible in this: 
In WTJWorg preaching, several Endings of Last Days have been coming during these 140 years. Such teachings are in fact apostasy for several reasons. One of striking piece of evidence is that their announcements were never fulfilled. 

How is it cowardly?   Are you a prophet?  Can you verify this, if you are?  Have you had a vision?  Num 12:6
Or, are you conjuring up a date just as your “fathers” have, out of the personal motives of your heart? 
"How long will this continue in the hearts of these lying prophets, who prophesy the delusions of their own minds?"  Jer 23:26
 Since you uphold false prophets, we can easily assume that you are one also. (Matt 7:28) According to the word of God, there is no need to listen to your prediction.  (Jer 23:16)
 

Good point.
So why did D. Splane decide to pursue JW forums and the topic of apostasy? 
Well, this letter must have struck a harsh chord with the GB.  Pearl Doxsey has been exposing the leadership for many years, and I joined her around 2013-14.  But Rachel’s letter reaching elders at kingdom halls, branch offices and headquarters world-wide, most likely was the icing on the cake.
https://www.theworldnewsmedia.org/topic/88999-defining-apostasy/
They can’t hide their sins anymore.  They can only plead with JWs to stay away from sites such as this one. 
I will echo his words but direct them toward JWs who reside with false prophets  – “We are not so strong, so spiritual, so intelligent, that we cannot be affected by the poison of apostate ideas.”
 

Russell and the IBSA were NO part of the JW world.  It was Rutherford that 'stole' part of the association from the IBSA and, against the previous wishes of Russell, changed the whole way of running that Association, turning it into an Organsation.  Why JWs quote Russell, who was nothing to do with them, I do not know. 
 
Yes the Leaders / GB / Watchtower / JW Org has indeed been cowardly over the last 100 + years. 
Pretending that Armageddon was coming in 1941, early 70's, before the end of the century (2000). And pretending that a person must be a baptised JW to be saved. 
It's called fear mongering and yes it's very cowardly. 

All of this has been done by WTJWorg scholars over a period of 140 years ... and all of their interpretations are on shaky ground.

King of the north":
abomination of desolation, the sacrifices have been removed.   Dan 9:27 
disgusting thing standing in the holy place, Matt 24:24. "Gentiles" standing in the temple.  
abomination of desolation standing where it doesn't belong, Mark 13:14  "Gentiles" standing in the temple. 
The man of lawlessness who exalts himself and sits/rules over the Temple of God.  2 Thess 2:3,4 "Gentiles", standing/ruling /sitting in the Temple.
"holy place"=Temple of God
Temple of God:  1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22
Where are we, in the stream of time?  And who is standing where they don't belong; who is ruling over the TEMPLE of "living stones", the anointed? 
THE ELDER BODY, who "represent God's priesthood" . Who act as priests, who judge the royal priesthood, who spiritually "kill" the royal priesthood for not worshipping the "Beast"  - "Jehovah's spirit-directed organization" - that makes war against them. (Rev 13:6,7
But let no one come into the house of the Lord except the priests and those of the Levites who serve. They may go in, for they are holy; but all the people shall keep the watch of the Lord.  And the Levites shall surround the king on all sides, every man with his weapons in his hand; and whoever comes into the house, let him be put to death. You are to be with the king when he comes in and when he goes out.” 2 Chron 23:6,7
 If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are. 1Cor 3:16,17; 1 Pet 2:5,9
Rev 11:1,2 - Then I was given a reed like a measuring rod. And the angel stood, saying, “Rise and measure the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there. 2 But leave out the court which is outside the temple, and do not measure it, for it has been given to the Gentiles. And they will tread the holy city underfoot for forty-two months.
God didn't predict that the UN is the image of the Beast, abomination standing in the holy place, man of lawlessness, disgusting thing, Beast of Rev. 13:1.  That is your prediction.  God predicted that His priesthood/saints would be surrounded - by deceitful men who rule over them, and who feed them lies. 
Rev 16:13-16; 20:7-9
 
 
 
 

Rev 13:15 – "It (the false prophet, Rev 13:11,12) was permitted to give breath (spirit-breathed) to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast could both speak and cause whoever would not worship the image of the beast to be killed." 
What false prophet do you know of, that christened/inspired the United Nations with a spirit? 
Does the UN project a religious "image" of being spirit directed?
How many people have been killed by the UN lately for refusing to “worship” it?
 
 

What did it take for GB, as the final result of the discussion/debate, to conclude/identify that this is exactly that political creation / state and not someone else? Russia is not the only country that has persecuted dissidents of any kind in the past or present. Nor is the only one haunting JW. And, as far as I can see it is a one of more important argument (persecution of JW) that supposedly identifies it as the “northern king”.

When "Charity" organization writing articles, in so called "religious" publications, about "Russia and its allies", that is one aspect of political engagement.  

Are these publicly known allies or should secret allies and those who are yet to become their allies be involved? GB know anything about that?
In their study article GB 9 times mentioned phrase Russia and its allies. But they never named those allies.
 
STUDY ARTICLE 20
Who Is “the King of the North” Today? - https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-may-2020/Who-Is-the-King-of-the-North-Today/

Supremacy is gained through information management and propaganda. Electronic media and video production fulfill this purpose nowadays.

WTJWorg leaders from past, till today, showed a great desire for the "end of the world" to come in 1914, 1925, 1941, 1975, by the end of the 20th century, by the end of the overlapping generation" ... and, if we live long enough, we will still hear their new predictions in some new or changed format.

True comment.
"For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths."  2 Tim 4:3,4
"sound doctrine" - basically meaning "healthy" doctrine. It can refer to "Christians whose opinions are free from error".  
Healthy teachings are good spiritual food, good "fruit". (Matt 7:15-20)  Unhealthy teachings lead to spiritual sickness, even death.  But, if a leader/teacher who isn't producing sound doctrine because he is pursuing his own desires, does he really care if he is the cause of sickness and death in others?
Heb 12:15 - "See to it that no one falls short of the grace of God and that no bitter root grows up to cause trouble and defile many.
 Rev 8:10,11 - "The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water— 11 the name of the star is Wormwood.[a] ("bitter substance")  A third of the waters turned bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter."
 

SCENARIO ONE:   Let's assume that everyone reading these words has full and complete knowledge of the "King Of The North".
SCENARIO TWO:  Let's assume that everyone reading these words knows absolutely nothing about the "King Of The North", and visualizes either Santa Clause, or Superman in his Fortress of Solitude, or nothing at all.
NOTHING we can do about it.
Why not spend our time on something we CAN do something about?
Could be Theocratic or secular ... complicated or simple ... anything at all!
About the "King Of The North", whoever it is, and whatever occurs, we are completely powerless.
For you it may be more valuable to sit down with a protractor and a calculator, and teach yourself coordinate geometry.
For me, it might be more valuable to visit my Mom at the Daisy Hill Puppy Farm.
Infinite variety.