George88

It appears that the ignorance being displayed here is coming from you, Tom/Xero. Now you seem to want to act in a disrespectful manner, just like James. Your behavior is truly pathetic.

If you are unable to comprehend the thread, it reflects more on your abilities than on the thread itself. One crucial point to recognize is that Tom's understanding of the GB update #2 was inaccurate. Perhaps even your sad calculator could analyze that and make sense of it.

Yes, you will indeed find the pattern of a Christian life followed by most witnesses, just not in this place.
Their actions alone should be enough to convey their message, without the need for any further claims. I understand that you may have some issues with God and Christ, but rest assured that they will deal with them in due time.
Well, this is just a convoluted way of thinking, since we are living in the 21st century applying Christ's first century teachings. Therefore, what is not true is your way of thinking.
Absolutely! God's Holy Spirit is indeed in charge. Have you ever considered the countless instances in the Bible where God guided and redirected the Israelites and His people? It's truly remarkable how His divine intervention played out!
What part of that don't you understand?
For those who genuinely repent, this is a practical approach. Seeing that Jesus was dining with a Pharisee to make a point, it would be reasonable to expect that someone with a well-informed conscience would be allowed to greet a disfellowshipped individual who shows a sincere desire to return to God. However, Tom's perspective seems to overlook the importance of fellowship in this scenario.
That's precisely why the title is structured that way - as you've just demonstrated. Former witnesses often lack evidence, and are clueless when evidence is presented. It seems they simply enjoy boasting about nonsense, as you just have.
It appears that they possess a superior understanding of evidence and the divine purpose guiding this world, surpassing your comprehension.

Why don't former members of Jehovah's Witnesses recognize the impact that other religions have on societies as a whole here?
This site appears more interested in maintaining the status quo within their misconceived hierarchy, rather than actually making a meaningful contribution to the discussion about finding temporary solutions to the pressing issue troubling even those outside the community: the evil afflicting humanity at the hands of Satan by not separating church and state in their arguments.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/nuns-defy-vatican-and-seek-a-restraining-order-against-bishop/ss-AA1nzW9o?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=3c9a19f4fa9b43d3a7bd8ceaa485848b&ei=20#image=4
This week, Texas nuns are defying a Vatican order to vacate their Monastery after the Vatican issued a decree concerning their order. The nuns are now seeking government intervention by requesting a restraining order. However, a District Judge dismissed a previous order on the grounds it lacked jurisdiction.
In a striking turn of events, a French court went against the Vatican's sovereignty and issued a groundbreaking judgment in support of an excommunicated nun, thereby challenging the authority of a sovereign nation. 
It seems that the French Court overlooked a crucial fact when it ruled that the Vatican could not excommunicate a nun for violating the bylaws that govern any religious order.
The notion of "chastity" and its significance in the Catholic faith extends far beyond any criminal accusation. The French nun's struggle with "obedience" and failure to communicate is also noteworthy in her role as a high-profile teacher. It mirrors the biblical teachings on sexual morality, and obedience to authority serves as a guiding principle for believers.
There are, however, numerous theories surrounding these two issues, and I'm confident that people will contribute their own unique perspectives to them.
The French government's actions concerning the Vatican City's "Holy See", which is equivalent to the Watchtower Governing Body for the Catholic Faith, are a sovereign nation recognized by all nations of the world. Not only is it concerning, but also reminiscent of the restrictions being imposed on other organizations, such as the Watchtower, by other governments. Such interference in the affairs of a sovereign nation sets a troubling precedent.
What the French government is essentially saying is that they have the right to intervene and dictate to another nation. This verdict is essentially what it implies.
https://apnews.com/article/vatican-france-nun-pope-marie-ferreol-ouellet-937da5e4b91b3b591b72b9edeb4a1f76
In this case, apostates of Jehovah's Witnesses and some witnesses not in good standing serve as referees and consider disfellowshipping to be a barbaric action, even though it is supported by scripture and implemented in the bylaws of other religious institutions according to bible canon.
Even though scripture doesn't specifically mention the words "excommunicate" or "disfellowship," it implies consequences for those who have a heavy heart after committing serious transgressions against God, and have no desire to repent.
In another thread, the topic of repentance and being unrepentant was brought up. Is it possible to guide an unrepentant soul towards receiving God's grace, or does the individual need to show a genuine desire to repent on their own?
God demands that we demonstrate true repentance through our behavior. This new understanding, as highlighted by the Watchtower GB, shows that there is a pathway to fellowship for those who have strayed from God's teachings. Upon demonstrating genuine repentance, they can be accepted back into God's hands.
Is it the spiritual leader's responsibility to coerce or convince a sinner to repent? No, that decision belongs between God and the individual. The church's obligation is to keep the congregation free from negative influences. In the time before the New Testament, God communicated his wishes through the prophets.
This was God's will.
2 Chronicles 7:14 New International Version
14 if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land.
A person who truly repents should be shown leniency, as stated in scriptures such as Matthew, Luke, Acts, 1 Peter, and 1 John, etc. However, this leniency does not apply to those who choose to remain unrepentant. The words of the apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians 5:11-13 still apply to those whose conduct willfully denies the Lord through their personal actions and behavior.
Now, how do other institutions view those steps?
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/8-signs-true-repentance/
So, to whom should a devoted follower of Christ listen? They should prioritize attentiveness to scripture and adhere to the word of God. Moreover, they should comprehend those teachings that align with the principles of Christ, as conveyed by their spiritual leaders.

One confusion has arisen due to Tom's interpretation of the Governing Body's update number #2. He mistakenly assumes that Jehovah's Witnesses are allowed to associate with disfellowshipped individuals and therefore are in harmony with the spirit of update # 2. However, reading his comments elsewhere, it is clear that Tom is spreading misinformation. It is important to clarify that we are not "free" to associate with disfellowshipped individuals, as some may wrongly infer from Tom's words. The truth is quite the opposite.
The Brothers update suggests the following:
18. When a person has been removed from the congregation, we “stop keeping company”with that person, “not even eating with such a man.” (1 Cor. 5:11) However, as explained and demonstrated in the 2024 Governing Body Update #2, if the person attends congregation meetings, a publisher can use his Bible-trained conscience to decide if he will give a simple greeting and welcome the disfellowshipped person to the meeting or not.
19. A Christian may also choose to invite a disfellowshipped person—perhaps a relative, a former Bible student, or someone he was close to in the past—to attend a congregation meeting.
This update does not in any way imply a casual association with a disfellowshipped individual, as some people may interpret through their own subjective understanding of the publications from the Watchtower. The contact with a disfellowshipped individual remains with the Elders of the congregation whether they progress in repentance or not.
One of the signs of the end times is the increasing tendency of governments to perceive religion as merely another institution governed by rules, rather than as a sacred system of spiritual principles. This shift may enable more meaningful discussions about global political perspectives based on religious scriptures rather than individual opinions.
Therefore, when faced with attempts to trick him, how did Jesus handle secular political issues in Matthew 22:17-21?
These issues regarding the nuns should be addressed in the same way that Jesus did, by separating church and state, which those nuns failed to do.

It seems that you have never been around a group of scholars. We tackle issues directly by being straightforward, without behaving like timid individuals. If you are looking for something meaningful to write in your books, try to understand the real world from their perspective, not your own. You might gain some valuable insights, since you have failed to apply scripture in your lives just to be friends with this world.
How many have you led astray with your actions, thinking that you bear no responsibility for their plight? It appears to me that those who have squandered their lives pretending to be Jehovah's Witnesses are none other than yourselves.
It is hypocritical to complain about disrespect while offering the same in return. It's important for everyone to self-reflect and evaluate their own mental state. I believe in treating others the same way I am treated, and even more so when it comes to matters concerning God. Speaking ill of our creator is something that no one should ever do.

I would never even consider joining an apostate club worse than this one. At least here, apostates are honest about who they are, while you fake witnesses hide behind your foolishness. I will agree, after so long, you people still lack intelligence in most areas.  
In your anger you forgot the "y" in Pudgy, lol! Get a life Tom!
Your feeble attempt to accuse me of lacking Christian ethics pales in comparison to your own moral failings of permitting a disfellowshipped individual into the close club solely because you have a liking for him. It is clear that your judgment is far more lacking than mine, ex-elder. It's evident that the reasons behind your removal are significant. Therefore, your words, along with those of your followers, ring hollow in light of your own deplorable conduct, which is far worse than mine.

Your knowledge of God was erased from your conscience as a result of your betrayal. 

I would never even consider joining an apostate club worse than this one. At least here, apostates are honest about who they are, while you fake witnesses hide behind your foolishness. I will agree, after so long, you people still lack intelligence in most areas.  
In your anger you forgot the "y" in Pudgy, lol! Get a life Tom!
Your feeble attempt to accuse me of lacking Christian ethics pales in comparison to your own moral failings of permitting a disfellowshipped individual into the close club solely because you have a liking for him. It is clear that your judgment is far more lacking than mine, ex-elder. It's evident that the reasons behind your removal are significant. Therefore, your words, along with those of your followers, ring hollow in light of your own deplorable conduct, which is far worse than mine.

I don't know whether you just had a seizure, but you're not making sense. You're one step away from talking in word salads.

I'm not sure what the point of this thread is. Is there a recommendation to do something? Believe something? 
 
This phrase "Why don't former members of Jehovah's Witnesses recognize the impact that other religions have on societies as a whole here?" is weirdly ambiguous.
On the one hand it claims that "former members" have a certain belief in common, namely some ambiguous "[a failure to]  "recognize the impact that other religions have on societies as a whole here"".
I don't know how anyone could know anything consistently true about ex-JW's other than that they are ex-JW's. Their reason for being ex-JW's varies, and how any of the business of being an "ex-JW" could be queried such that one could speak of them as a bloc in holding any given attitude about anything is beyond me.

Then it seems there's some squishy words which we're supposed to imagine flows naturally to "What are you doing about evil in the world?" Implying that some unclearly named others aren't, w/o making an explicit argument. 

Then we're having our attention directed to a case of some nuns who have issues with their hierarchy, and somehow this is supposed to exemplify something, but what that is isn't clear either.

Then SS uses this as an opportunity to express himself, however how any of his expressions can in any way connect with the OP's ambiguous post is beyond me.

Maybe if I passed this through some gematria calculator, it will make more sense.

https://www.gematrix.org/?word=Why+don't+former+members+of+Jehovah's+Witnesses+recognize+the+impact+that+other+religions+have+on+societies+as+a+whole+here%3F
Turns out that phrase has the value of 8957, which is also tellingly the same numeric value as the phrase:
https://www.gematrix.org/?word=stalked by fallen ones then why they hiding in bunkers they must know something you useless eaters on the surface dont know hahahaha
 

Why don't former members of Jehovah's Witnesses recognize the impact that other religions have on societies as a whole here?
This site appears more interested in maintaining the status quo within their misconceived hierarchy, rather than actually making a meaningful contribution to the discussion about finding temporary solutions to the pressing issue troubling even those outside the community: the evil afflicting humanity at the hands of Satan by not separating church and state in their arguments.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/nuns-defy-vatican-and-seek-a-restraining-order-against-bishop/ss-AA1nzW9o?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=3c9a19f4fa9b43d3a7bd8ceaa485848b&ei=20#image=4
This week, Texas nuns are defying a Vatican order to vacate their Monastery after the Vatican issued a decree concerning their order. The nuns are now seeking government intervention by requesting a restraining order. However, a District Judge dismissed a previous order on the grounds it lacked jurisdiction.
In a striking turn of events, a French court went against the Vatican's sovereignty and issued a groundbreaking judgment in support of an excommunicated nun, thereby challenging the authority of a sovereign nation. 
It seems that the French Court overlooked a crucial fact when it ruled that the Vatican could not excommunicate a nun for violating the bylaws that govern any religious order.
The notion of "chastity" and its significance in the Catholic faith extends far beyond any criminal accusation. The French nun's struggle with "obedience" and failure to communicate is also noteworthy in her role as a high-profile teacher. It mirrors the biblical teachings on sexual morality, and obedience to authority serves as a guiding principle for believers.
There are, however, numerous theories surrounding these two issues, and I'm confident that people will contribute their own unique perspectives to them.
The French government's actions concerning the Vatican City's "Holy See", which is equivalent to the Watchtower Governing Body for the Catholic Faith, are a sovereign nation recognized by all nations of the world. Not only is it concerning, but also reminiscent of the restrictions being imposed on other organizations, such as the Watchtower, by other governments. Such interference in the affairs of a sovereign nation sets a troubling precedent.
What the French government is essentially saying is that they have the right to intervene and dictate to another nation. This verdict is essentially what it implies.
https://apnews.com/article/vatican-france-nun-pope-marie-ferreol-ouellet-937da5e4b91b3b591b72b9edeb4a1f76
In this case, apostates of Jehovah's Witnesses and some witnesses not in good standing serve as referees and consider disfellowshipping to be a barbaric action, even though it is supported by scripture and implemented in the bylaws of other religious institutions according to bible canon.
Even though scripture doesn't specifically mention the words "excommunicate" or "disfellowship," it implies consequences for those who have a heavy heart after committing serious transgressions against God, and have no desire to repent.
In another thread, the topic of repentance and being unrepentant was brought up. Is it possible to guide an unrepentant soul towards receiving God's grace, or does the individual need to show a genuine desire to repent on their own?
God demands that we demonstrate true repentance through our behavior. This new understanding, as highlighted by the Watchtower GB, shows that there is a pathway to fellowship for those who have strayed from God's teachings. Upon demonstrating genuine repentance, they can be accepted back into God's hands.
Is it the spiritual leader's responsibility to coerce or convince a sinner to repent? No, that decision belongs between God and the individual. The church's obligation is to keep the congregation free from negative influences. In the time before the New Testament, God communicated his wishes through the prophets.
This was God's will.
2 Chronicles 7:14 New International Version
14 if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land.
A person who truly repents should be shown leniency, as stated in scriptures such as Matthew, Luke, Acts, 1 Peter, and 1 John, etc. However, this leniency does not apply to those who choose to remain unrepentant. The words of the apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians 5:11-13 still apply to those whose conduct willfully denies the Lord through their personal actions and behavior.
Now, how do other institutions view those steps?
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/8-signs-true-repentance/
So, to whom should a devoted follower of Christ listen? They should prioritize attentiveness to scripture and adhere to the word of God. Moreover, they should comprehend those teachings that align with the principles of Christ, as conveyed by their spiritual leaders.

One confusion has arisen due to Tom's interpretation of the Governing Body's update number #2. He mistakenly assumes that Jehovah's Witnesses are allowed to associate with disfellowshipped individuals and therefore are in harmony with the spirit of update # 2. However, reading his comments elsewhere, it is clear that Tom is spreading misinformation. It is important to clarify that we are not "free" to associate with disfellowshipped individuals, as some may wrongly infer from Tom's words. The truth is quite the opposite.
The Brothers update suggests the following:
18. When a person has been removed from the congregation, we “stop keeping company”with that person, “not even eating with such a man.” (1 Cor. 5:11) However, as explained and demonstrated in the 2024 Governing Body Update #2, if the person attends congregation meetings, a publisher can use his Bible-trained conscience to decide if he will give a simple greeting and welcome the disfellowshipped person to the meeting or not.
19. A Christian may also choose to invite a disfellowshipped person—perhaps a relative, a former Bible student, or someone he was close to in the past—to attend a congregation meeting.
This update does not in any way imply a casual association with a disfellowshipped individual, as some people may interpret through their own subjective understanding of the publications from the Watchtower. The contact with a disfellowshipped individual remains with the Elders of the congregation whether they progress in repentance or not.
One of the signs of the end times is the increasing tendency of governments to perceive religion as merely another institution governed by rules, rather than as a sacred system of spiritual principles. This shift may enable more meaningful discussions about global political perspectives based on religious scriptures rather than individual opinions.
Therefore, when faced with attempts to trick him, how did Jesus handle secular political issues in Matthew 22:17-21?
These issues regarding the nuns should be addressed in the same way that Jesus did, by separating church and state, which those nuns failed to do.

James, that's not the main focus. We will all pass away before the arrival of judgment day, unless we're around 100 years old. Your repentance is what truly matters. Appreciate your soul and learn to love it as much as God loves all of his creations. Don't let pride, anger, or hate deter you from the path of everlasting life. Make the right choice, despite the misleading guidance from your own mind.

I strongly believe that we should not be false prophets. Instead, we should extend a sincere invitation to those who are willing to repent. Where do you and he stand on that? Perhaps the one that fails to understand the new light is yourself.
What truly constitutes genuine repentance when one speaks against the Watchtower organization and biblical truths? Why are you putting in so much effort to portray him as a martyr when he clearly is not one. You're persistently trying to make a sale, even though there are no interested buyers and everyone can clearly see through your deceitful act.
That's what he and the liars keep insisting. How much can honest people truly accept? You are currently tailoring your performance specifically for the exclusive audience within the closed club.
That is why your final comment to James exposes you and JWI as hypocrites as the Admin and Librarian, just like the Pharisees. That's not a good thing. 🤣

Manuel, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but considering that you have openly admitted it here, I strongly suggest that you refrain from using your actual name. Instead, opt for a different alias, much like James does with his amusingly named "Pudgy". 
Either that, or remain in the close club where people are indifferent to causing offense.

Manuel, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but considering that you have openly admitted it here, I strongly suggest that you refrain from using your actual name. Instead, opt for a different alias, much like James does with his amusingly named "Pudgy". 
Either that, or remain in the close club where people are indifferent to causing offense.

It's great that you're keeping a positive attitude. However, on judgment day, will God still find your laughter amusing? Also, it's important to remember that many witnesses secretly celebrate their birthdays, believing they are fooling others.

😂 I have no doubt about it, Pudgy. I've said it before. I am likely interacting with many individuals, with a cast of thousands. 😂

I was inspired by that Christmas song nonsense.
Rather than getting involved in fruitless arguments with someone determined to disrupt and spread hate towards me and the Watchtower, I have made the choice to present the essential questions that I believe should be asked to apostates and disfellowshipped individuals.
It's not worth investing time in someone who is dealing with mental illness. Now, for others that have sense enough:
Proverbs 26:11-13 English Standard Version
11 Like a dog that returns to his vomit is a fool who repeats his folly. 12 Do you see a man who is wise in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him. 13 The sluggard says, “There is a lion in the road! There is a lion in the streets!”
Will the unrepentant inherit the earth? God demands repentance from his creation. What drives people to believe they are superior and go against God with their words and actions? This behavior is damaging to the soul, leading to unrighteousness and ultimately to personal downfall.
The core of this fundamental truth lies in the eternal question of good versus evil, righteousness versus unrighteousness. The distinction between becoming a bearer of truth and a dissenter of truth is crucial. How can one truly discern the path of becoming a teacher of truth rather than falling into the trap of becoming a dissenter?
Biblically, there are only two paths that God has given that Christ mentioned. Matthew 7:13-14
What is the point of living a Christian life that is not in harmony with God's will?
This leads us to the judgment of conscience by Christ. Those who willfully understand their own actions and behavior will be judged as unrighteous according to God's laws. Those who have not come to know God or whose lives were cut short without knowing God's laws will be given the opportunity to know God through Christ in the resurrection, but not before.
There is no place on this Earth where the word of God is not being transmitted, in one form or another, by religious groups. Even in the most remote areas, indigenous people can witness the relentless efforts of Christian organizations who aim to connect with them, regardless of any objections they may have, in order to bridge cultural gaps.
Before the arrival of Judgment Day, everyone will come to understand God's purpose for humanity. Ignorance of God's purpose and truth will be non-existent. By then, we will all possess this knowledge. The only distinction will be that some individuals whose lives were prematurely ended by the actions of others have been spared from experiencing it firsthand.
So, what is the purpose of being a dissenter knowing what fate that awaits those individuals that cannot be changed? 
Romans 1:29-31 English Standard Version
29 They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless.
 

You consistently demonstrate yourself to be nothing more than a disciple of the devil, as evidenced by your adherence to false claims. What is the foundation of your truth, built upon such deceitful assertions?
You constantly make it all about yourself, even though you are insignificant. Consequently, you surround yourself with individuals you aim to impress, whereas I focus on influencing those who possess a superior moral compass, revealing the deceitful methods employed by the opposing side. 

Impressive plot twist. I'm not referring to you, Pudgy, even though your behavior now mirrors your behavior before being disfellowshipped. I'm not also talking about diehard apostates like Srecko and, Matthew. Their actions speak for themselves.
The question is: Who are the impostors claiming to be Jehovah's witnesses and pretending to be active members with ulterior motives? I have already identified some, and a few new ones have emerged to spread their negativity in the open forum just like in a closed club. What additional evidence do I need to present besides the evidence I have already gathered with their behavior, and presented for the public to see? There are thousands upon thousands of posted pages to prove it.
Please stop distorting my words like JWI does; it's pathetic. I have a question for them: why do they "accept apostasy," particularly when they fail to defend God? What is the point of being known as a Jehovah's Witness and acting like a Pharisee? Let me know if that makes sense to anyone.
You persist in obfuscating, choking and using double standards, which ultimately holds no weight. You consistently demonstrate that the original post is correct in all aspects, particularly you Pudgy, a verified dishonest individual.
So, what kind of proof do I need to offer that you won't accept as a nobody? Therefore, who cares what you think?

You consistently demonstrate yourself to be nothing more than a disciple of the devil, as evidenced by your adherence to false claims. What is the foundation of your truth, built upon such deceitful assertions?
You constantly make it all about yourself, even though you are insignificant. Consequently, you surround yourself with individuals you aim to impress, whereas I focus on influencing those who possess a superior moral compass, revealing the deceitful methods employed by the opposing side. 

You consistently demonstrate yourself to be nothing more than a disciple of the devil, as evidenced by your adherence to false claims. What is the foundation of your truth, built upon such deceitful assertions?
You constantly make it all about yourself, even though you are insignificant. Consequently, you surround yourself with individuals you aim to impress, whereas I focus on influencing those who possess a superior moral compass, revealing the deceitful methods employed by the opposing side. 

Tom, let me clarify something. I refuse to bear the blame for the situation, it's your associates who are responsible. You have completely misjudged me. I treat others based on how they treat me. If Pete, Srecko, or James choose to insult me, they are the ones initiating it, not me. Understand this clearly. The only contrast is, you, JWI and whoever is controlling this site have the power to ban people because you want to protect your illusion of a perfect environment.
Stop insinuating that you are the victims here. In reality, people like me are the victims. How many hundreds have you banned over the course of a decade to protect apostates, the disfellowshipped, disgruntled witnesses, and James? If you want to continue down this path, remember that you can't critique without being critiqued.
I may have a multitude of complaints surpassing those of all of you combined, yet I have made a conscious decision to adhere to God's commands and the teachings of Christ. Nothing in this world should hold a more steadfast position in one's pursuit of salvation.

The focus should be on enhancing the experience for visitors instead of trying to engage in illogical discussions with irrational individuals that just want to fight like little school children.
Scripture emphasizes controlling our tongue because words have the power to bring life or death, to build up or tear down. Our tongue has the ability to either bless or curse, and its impact is far-reaching. By controlling our tongue, we can cultivate wisdom, show love, and bring healing to others. Scripture guides us to use our words for good and to bring glory to God through the way we speak.
NAS  Proverbs 18:21 Death and life are in the power of the tongue, And those who love it will eat its fruit. (Prov. 18:21 NAS)
Where does it state in Proverbs that God is kidding? DEATH AND LIFE.
NAS  Proverbs 13:3 The one who guards his mouth preserves his life; The one who opens wide his lips comes to ruin. (Prov. 13:3 NAS)
NAS  James 1:26 If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man's religion is worthless. (Jas. 1:26 NAS)
NAS  1 Peter 3:10 For, "Let him who means to love life and see good days Refrain his tongue from evil and his lips from speaking guile. (1 Pet. 3:10 NAS)
NAS  Revelation 21:8 "But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death." (Rev. 21:8 NAS)
What is the second death? It is a permanent death without resurrection, redemption, or pardon, just like what Satan will experience in the end. This is why words matter, as well as one's mindset, since they lead us to our actions and behavior, and ultimately to our own destruction if not tamed. Therefore, there is no justification for criticizing what God views as good.
The Watchtower is not saying it, God is telling us.
 

It is disheartening that individuals continue to affirm the validity of the original post. Even those who support Satan fail to speak the truth; they simply prefer to behave in a reprehensible manner, further confirming the point raised.