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I'm having trouble finding anything particularly sinister in these comments. I'm hearing a man saying that if youths felt they were mature enough to have a driving licence but weren't ready to consider dedication and baptism, then maybe their priorities needed adjustment. However, to say this is promoting the encouraging of youths to get baptized in exchange for a driving licence??? That would be an own foot shot in my book and a recipe for spiritual disaster. Maybe someone would be idiotic enough to think such a strategy would work and save them the chore of having a Bible Study with their child, but I'm not hearing that suggestion here.

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/bible-prophecy/

How does 1 Samuel 24:4-7 sit with this?

This is a puzzling question. Of course no true prophet is recorded as getting Jehovah's message wrong. Whenever Jehovah's message is transmitted, it could only be right as Jehovah himself was transmitting it and saw to it that the message was transmitted as he required. Sometimes the message was not even understood by the messenger. Isn't that part of the understanding of what an inspired message is?

You are all at it again! Acts 23:7. Let me know when somebody wins!

More a case of demons agreeing with the truth: Matt 8:29 I have, and there are sufficient numbers of folk like your self arguing for and against trinitarian "church father" beliefs. Reminds me of Paul's experience at Acts 23:7. I will leave it to you people to fight it out. Let me know if anyone wins. Man. We are on different planets!! I will stick with Joel on this one.

Issues on this subject were also discussed in the Awake: July 8, 1998 issue, on pages 10-14, entitled "Jehovah's Witnesses-Courageous in the Face of Nazi Peril". Copy attached. 1933 in Nazi Germany.pdf

Jehovah's Witnesses understanding of this John 1:1 is in harmony with the authority of the inspirer of the Holy Scriptures and Jehovah God Himself. That is because their understanding of the text is in harmonizes with the whole Bible teaching about Jesus, God's Son. There are many others who agree with this understanding and rehashing their arguments here is unnecessary. As for Greber's alleged source of "inspiration", this is of no consequence. Even if his translation of the scripture was demon-inspired, the precedent of demon-inspired utterances AGREEING with the truth was set long before anyway, compare Acts 16:16-17 in Greber's translation (rendered in English) 16 One day as we were on our way to the same place of worship, we met a slave-girl through whom a spirit gifted with the power of divination spoke, and who in this way earned much money for her 17 employers. She followed Paul and us, and cried, "These men are servants of the Most High, and they are showing you the way to 18 salvation." This side issue in no way discounts that the Greek scriptures in quoting the text of Joel 2:32 should contain the Divine name Jehovah.

Do you mean like Moses added it in in Genesis? Or different? IN this discussion when asked if Moses inserted the name Jehovah into the book of Genesis you said: Shiwii: Posted 14 May Under inspiration, Moses wrote. When he wrote exodus, he said that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob did not know God's name. God told Moses this directly. It is my belief that no one before Moses knew God's name, based on Exodus. So to answer you plainly, yes

You wish.......

When it quotes from Joel 2:32:"Everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved." at Acts 2:21: "And everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved" and Rom 10:13: "For “everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.”"

Probably because "Concerning that day and hour nobody knows" Matt.24:36.

No need to prove this because it was not I would have thought??

3- part Turning Points in History documentary on the period of persecution experienced by Jehovah's Witnesses in Quebec, Canada under the tenure of Maurice Duplessis. Part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_jGrPTbmmg Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILLA_7ruZ0o Part 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jLEUGUPo78

This is getting a bit Apples and Oranges and going off point, although I would quite like to see a topic on old versus new methods of presenting material at K Halls and Assemblies.

I am responding to this one as I have been quoted, but only for this one posting. It is a reasonable question, but, like beards or not for male Jehovah's Witnesses, seems to trigger endless debate. Routine choice of clothing of those outside of the Jehovah's Witness community is not the final arbiter of their dress code for formal activities. Whilst the scriptures provide guidance, for example at 1Tim. 2:9-10, the practical application of this guidance to a dress code for formal activity in modern times is influenced more strongly by what is felt acceptable overall by the Witness community than by popular culture. Most Witnesses are happy to go along with the standard encouraged by those taking the lead in that formal activity. Of course in determining that standard, some consideration is given to the cultural setting, particularly in what would be generally expected by the public as a form of dress appropriate to the work that Jehovah's Witnesses do, and the life-style that they promote. That given, there may well be numerous styles of dress and forms of clothing that no longer generate the controversy or even offence they have done in previous years.These changes in style may well be reflected quite acceptably in the informal attire of Jehovah's Witnesses where there is no violation of Christian standards of modesty. The dress code adopted by Jehovah's Witnesses for formal activity does not violate standards of modesty either inside or outside of the congregation, and leaves plenty of room for the expression of personal taste. It seems to be adequately fit for purpose at present, and allows for focus on more important matters as advised by the apostle Paul: Ph.1:9-11.

Yeah agreed. I was trying to get clarity to get things back on point but I think I'm wasting my time. So I'll abandon at this stage. Sorry for the unintended deviation!

I know this is frustrating but mean time there is the option to hide inappropriate posts by setting the Ignored Users option under your log in name at the top right of the Forum page.

So do you mean those people were not actually calling on the name of Jehovah, it was Moses who inserted that phrase to explain that although they were calling on a God whose name they did not know, they were really calling on Jehovah?

What is your definition of "prophecy"?

Let me make sure I understand what you are saying: Do you mean that Moses inserted the name of God into the text where it should have been to give clarity ?

Not the answer to the question. I believe Moses did that under inspiration at Genesis 4:26 "At that time the people began calling on the name of Jehovah"

This is a good enough response to your opinion that providing security for a building project is "idolatry".

Nehemiah was building walls to a city.

Like to hear some views on this.