Jesus.defender

What source did they use?

JW Belief is first, the Bibilcal position is in bold Christ is God's Son and is inferior to him. Christ is God. He took on the form of man to come to earth. John 1:1, 1 Timothy 3:16 Christ died on a stake, not a cross. Christ died on a cross. John 20:25, Matthew 27:37, 27 Christ's human life was paid as a ransom for obedient humans. Christ life was paid as a ransom for sinners Matthew 9:13, 1 Timothy 1:15 Earth will never be destroyed or depopulated. God will create new heavens and earth and new physical laws. God's people will be removed from earth. Matthew 24:31, Mark 13:27, 1 Thess. 4:16-17 The human soul ceases to exist at death The spirit of man goes to be with God *Ecclesiastes 3:21, Ecclesiastes 12:7 Hell is mankind's common grave. Before Christ, all went to Hades, after Christ only non-believers *Psalms 9:17, Matthew 23:33 The 144,000 are born again as spiritual sons of God. All people who confess Christ as Lord and Savior are born again *John 3:3, John 3:3-7 Christians must give public testimony to Scriptural truth. Christians must give public testimony to the gospel of Jesus Christ Romans 1:16, Romans 15:19, 1 Corinthians 1:17 The greatest name is Jehovah. The greatest name is Jesus Christ Ephesians 1:20-22, Philippians 2:9 Man does not have a spirit. Man has a spirit *Ecclesiastes 3:21 We are to worship Jehovah only. We are to worship Father, Son, and Holy Spirit Hebrews 1:6, Revelation 5:13 Jesus second coming occurred invisibly in 1914 and His kingdom was established in heaven. Jesus will return physically to earth and all alive will see Him as His kingdom is established on earth Matthew 24:30, Revelation 1:7 The greatest name is Jehovah. The greatest name is Jesus Christ Ephesians 1:20-22, Philippians 2:9 Christ is Michael the Archangel. Christ is not an angel, but God. Hebrews 1:13 Christ was first of God's creations. Christ is co-eternal with God, and as such was not created Isaiah 9:6, John 1:1, Hebrews 13:8

You really have no idea of the Bible, do you? "Probably most of us would have exclaimed similarly if in Thomas's position, but maybe not just for the reason you have cited , more in the spirit of 1Cor.13:4! John's account would not present contradictory material when he stated the purpose of his writing at John 20:31." IF what thomas said WAS an exclamation of shock, he blasphemed and the penalty was stoning to death on the spot. Just Jesus pick up stones? NO, He CONGRATULATED and AGREED with thomas! HAHA. Your first attempt to answer totally FAILS at the first hurdle! STOP LISTENING TO THE WATCHTOWER. THEY ARE A COMPLETELY SATANIC CULT

HAHAHA. ANY cult can play THAT game! What a disgusting, deceitful organisation! Cannot back up ANYTHING they say!

Which ONE point would you like to address?

you are a fool to say "no one" as you dont KNOW everyone.

No, No, No. Come on, my friend, address the verses i gave.

That is your opinion and the text does NOT say that. You did NOT address the verses. If Jesus was just raised "spiritually", Jesus would NOT say "for a spirit has not flesh and bones, as you see me have.". The resurrected Jesus DID have a body of flesh and bones. Also, the text is clear that Thomas called Jesus His God. Now, the watchtower i believe ( and i could be wrong ) say that that was an expression of surprise much like we would use today. However, this is easily refuted. Jesus was a Jew. Calling Jesus God would be considered blasphemy to the jews. What is the penalty for blasphemy? death on the spot. So, did Jesus reach for stones to kill him? What did Jesus say? "You blasphemed, thomas? No, He blessed him for realizing the truth! My friend, i honestly do thank you for staying with the verses i gave ( apart from 1 post so far ). It makes things much easier to discuss. If two people differ on something, there should be no reason why they cannot have a friendly, polite, loving conversation.

AT LAST! Now you have addressed a passage i quoted. Thank you. Unfortunately, you did not think for yourself. You just cut and pasted what the watchtower tells you to say. All you have done is given an interpretation which is biased and imbued with the false presupposition that Jesus is not God. Please, my friend tell me what does "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: " mean? It means clearly that God the father is addressing the Son as God.

No. Please address the passages i mentioned. The passages we are dealing with in this post are: John 20:27-28 "Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing." ( this also shows that Jesus was raised BODILY ) "And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God." John 1:1 "Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ Λόγος καὶ ὁ Λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν Θεόν Θεὸς ἦν ὁ Λόγος ", "En archē ēn ho Logos kai ho Logos ēn pros ton Theon kai Theos ēn ho Logos", "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and God was the Word" Hebrews 1:8 "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: "

@ShariKind

LOL. funny. not one JW has EVER been able to PROVE who removed it and when

Ignore the word "trinity". its not important. God is everlasting, eternal, without beginning or end. God is unchanging, infinite, omnipresence, omniscient , self-existent, self-sufficient, immaterial and omnipotent. There is only ONE God. God Himself says He knows of NO OTHER GOD and if He is all-knowing, He would know if there was any other Gods. The Bible says that God the father is God. The Bible says that Jesus is God. John 8:58, John 1:1, John 20:28, Hebrews 1:8, Isaiah 44:6 ( cross-reference Revelation 1:17 ) The Bible says that the Holy Spirit is God. Acts 5:3,4. Romans 8:11 The Bible also says there is ONE God. DEUTERONOMY 6:4, DEUTERONOMY 4:35,39, DEUTERONOMY 32:39, 2 SAMUEL 7:22, 1 KINGS 8:60, 2 KINGS 5:15 , 2 KINGS 19:15, NEHEMIAH 9:6, PSALM 18:31 ( Which also states Jesus is God ), PSALM 86:1, ISAIAH 37:16,20, ISAIAH 43:10,11, ISAIAH 44:6,8, ISAIAH 45:21, ISAIAH 46:9, HOSEA 13:4, MARK 12:29-34, ROMANS 3:30, 1 CORINTHIANS 8:4-6, 1 TIMOTHY 2:5. Therefore, somehow, these three entities constitute the one, eternal, everlasting God. We are not told HOW God is God, that is not important. God just tells us thats the way it is.

I know jehovahs witnesses don't care about the watchtowers FAILED PROPHECIES. Oh i do have an alternative to these false prophecies. "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."

In other words, the watchtower has NO IDEA.